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1. 01:06 AM - [Off-topic] Thanksgiving (Michel Verheughe)
2. 03:02 AM - Re: O.T. Vortex Generators. (shortnaked)
3. 06:07 AM - Re: GSC Propeller (chad lively)
4. 08:06 AM - Leading Edge ?'s (Andy)
5. 11:40 AM - Lister Comments - Please Support The Lists (Matt Dralle)
6. 02:01 PM - Re: Re: Cowl/exhaust header interference (kurt schrader)
7. 02:57 PM - Re: hmm some have no concern for safety it sems Re: Sport Pilot (Lowell Fitt)
8. 03:21 PM - Nose job (Michel Verheughe)
9. 04:39 PM - Re: Nose job (Torgeir Mortensen)
10. 05:57 PM - Kitfox/Jabiru Cowling (DC91840@aol.com)
11. 06:24 PM - Re: hmm some have no concern for safety it sems but others understand what is an acceptable risk. (kirk hull)
12. 07:02 PM - kitfox parts (mea dork)
13. 07:17 PM - Maximum RPM (Rex & Jan Shaw)
14. 07:39 PM - Vortex Generators. - Kurt (Randy Daughenbaugh)
15. 08:31 PM - Re: hmm some have no concern for safety it sems (Lowell Fitt)
16. 08:33 PM - Re: Backup for Mikuni pump (Lowell Fitt)
17. 08:34 PM - Re: Grove Gear Installation Model IV (Lowell Fitt)
18. 10:05 PM - Kitfox/Jabiru Cowling (FlyCyOZ@aol.com)
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| Subject: | [Off-topic] Thanksgiving |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
A delayed happy Thanksgiving to all my American friends!
Here is a really cool Thanksgiving card for you!
http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/Turkey.jpg
Incidentally, our son and his wife were on holidays in Chicago and flew home on
Wednesday. As they left the hotel, downtown Chicago, they heard a snow storm
was coming in. At O'Hare, all the planes were already covered with snow, many
flights were delayed, full chaos. Waiting two hours in the plane, several
de-icing. A strange noise is heard. Our son ask the air hostess who gets the
co-pilot. Hum, strange but ... it will go away!
Then they took-off ... the noise didn't go away. Ten minutes later, the captain
says: We were the last one to leave Chicago, the airport is now closed. Happy Thanksgiving!
... doesn't that sound like the movie "Airport?" :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: O.T. Vortex Generators. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
Dave,
That sound about right 150 feet just average i guess.
I got 3 strips 550, 2300 and 2100.
I cna take off into the wind 5 mph or better in 550 feet off in under 150
and clear 75' + trees in the 550 feet (althought the trees or on either
side of runway --) but at end as you pass you can see over the tops.
The Vg's have interested me and I might just try some day. Would like to
see some actual and thorough test results before and after on the Kitfox (
various models)
Bottom line is how mych better than150 feet TO do you want ?
and landing with 20 deg flaps you gonna stop flying under 30 with a tad of
power about 25 or less. Reminds me of a Lazair at 18 mph :)
btw I frequent this site and they got some nice moves available to DOWN
LOAD FREE hell you might even see some fun there :)
http://lazair.com/forum/index.php?showforum=12
http://www.lazair.com/movies/
Anyways I await the VG test results.
Shorty
----- Original Message -----
From: <Aerobatics@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: O.T. Vortex Generators.
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com
>
> Cool.....but yesterday..
>
> it was abot 45F, 5 mph down the runway, 1/2 fuel, solo, my KF 2 off
of
> grass that had 2 inches of snow and took almost exactly 150 feet ...I
> measured the tracks have photo from air to show!
>
> How much shorter do we need?
>
> Plus... kinda ugly.... plus hard to clean plane...
>
> My Strip is 780 feet and is fine... in many varied conditions temp TO
> weights etc....
>
> KF is an amazing plane.... as is
>
> Just an opinion...:-)
>
> Dave
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GSC Propeller |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "chad lively" <chadl@compu.net>
Chris, He can call anytime, day phone is 731-352-7278, night 731-986-2632.
Chad
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Erickson" <umasha@msn.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: GSC Propeller
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Chris Erickson" <umasha@msn.com>
>
> Hi Chad, I'm inquiring about the propeller on behalf of my father. When
would be a good time for him to call you? Thanks. Chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: chad lively<mailto:chadl@compu.net>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: GSC Propeller
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "chad lively"
<chadl@compu.net<mailto:chadl@compu.net>>
>
> Chris, I have a GSC 68" Contact me off line. Chad
>
>
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| Subject: | Leading Edge ?'s |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy" <fultz@trip.net>
Hey Guys,
I'm thinking about installing the leading edge that KF uses on my AVID
Speedwing. Does anybody have any they would like to part with and if not
where can I get them. Thanks.
Andy
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| Subject: | Lister Comments - Please Support The Lists |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
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days, the contributions have really started to come in and its looking like
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days left in this year's Fund Raiser, so if you've been waiting until the
last minute to make your Contribution, now's the time!
Make Your Contribution Today: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
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| Subject: | Re: Cowl/exhaust header interference |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
--- Joel Mapes <FoxFloatFlyer@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The folks selling the GTA prop do not recommend an
> extension, and I've already cut the cowl. Did you do
> the welding yourself? I'm a novice welder and don't
> feel up to the task. Tell me about the 2000 degree
> barrier. What is it, how is it applied and where can
> it be obtained?
> Thanks for the reply,
>
> Joel
Hi Joel,
I bought the materials from Aircraft Spruce. Look
under heat barriers. There are several good exhaust
wraps you can use to keep the heat in the pipe near
the cowl. I used "heat-proof tape, P/N 09-31500. It
says to 1000 degrees but works well beyond that. I am
using it after the turbo, so it is cooler than yours.
You might like another wrap better.
Racing and automotive catalogs have some of the same
materials if you would rather look there.
I coated the inside of the cowl with 1/8" Fiberfrax
P/N 970J. Good to 2300 degrees. You need the
adhesive too - P/N 05-00800. (That stuff is
expensive.) The Fiberfrax is easily damaged and soaks
up oils. To protect it and add cowl protection, I
used the reflective barrier, P/N 08-00630. Good to
2000 degrees. It is self sticking, but you would do
better to use more of the Fiberfrax adhesive to hold
it on. I overlapped it past the Fiberfrax a bit to
seal the edges.
That should keep things cool.
I had someone else weld the exhaust. I cut mine right
at the flange and took 1/2" off. It was a bit of a
hassel trying to keep it aligned when the welding was
done far from the engine. You might do well to make a
jig yourself to support it in the new position after
cutting it. I got it close with alignment marks, but
still had to bend the pipe a bit.
Hope that helps,
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
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| Subject: | Re: hmm some have no concern for safety it sems Re: Kitfox-List: |
Sport Pilot
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
I just got my medical in October. Also got one in October of 2002. What
this means in the real world that in the last two years, I have been
certified good to fly during all of two days.
Some days I don't feel like flying, yet I am legal to go because of the
paper in my pocket. Which airline had a pilot collapse in the cockpit
recently with a military pilot slipping into the first officer's seat. I
bet the disabled pilot was certified legal to fly even after being on the
floor receiving medical assistance. I am also sure, however, that the FAA
pulled the pilots medical shortly after that.
What I mean to say - and this is not original with me - is that we all
certify ourselves from day to day as we determine if we feel capable of
piloting our airplanes. This is the whole idea of the Sport Pilot medical
rule. I believe the FAA has determined that we are all a pretty careful and
responsible group of citizens. If you feel medically unfit - stay home and
watch a little TV with that precious piece of paper safely in you pocket.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
Subject: hmm some have no concern for safety it sems Re: Kitfox-List: Sport
Pilot
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dave
> To: Ron Lee
> Subject: Re: Sport Pilot
>
>
> geez I bet you hope the next pilot carrying your family home on a 757
has
> his medical?
>
> If also the guy in the sport pilot plane that just ran into him that
> passed out cause of his lack of respect for others.
>
>
> May luck be with you.
>
>
> :)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Lee
> To: dave@cfisher.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 8:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Sport Pilot
>
>
> You will change your mind if you think you may not pass your medical,
even
> though you are not a danger while flying or driving.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sport Pilot
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
> >
> > why would you want de- value your plane?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sport Pilot
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro"
> <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > Once it is certified, it can't be derated.
> > >
> > > LeRoy staley <itis50@yahoo.com> wrote:--> Kitfox-List message posted
by:
> > LeRoy staley
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if we are able to derate an airplanes
> > > gross weight? I have a Kitfox 5 that is presently
> > > rated at 1500 gross.
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________
> > > http://my.yahoo.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Jose M. Toro, P.E.
> > > Kitfox II/582
> > > "A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
I don't know ... I have to do something with my cowling to match the Jabiru.
But I am not sure what to do. The Jabiru should have a smooth cowling like the
Skyfox. But then, I'd need to make a new firewall, glareshield, panel ... and
probably a new windshield.
Keeping the round cowling and making it longer and wider seems a bit stupid
too, it no longer can resemble a rotary engine.
But the profile of the Jabiru, with the air duct holes just above the prop
shaft and on the top of the cowling, requires a lower top. Hence the difficulty
to match the Skyfox cowling.
Before I mould anything, I try to visualize with drawings. Please have a look at:
http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/nose.jpg
and let me know what you think of my drawing. Would you be ashamed to fly
something like that? The advantage is that it keeps the "high profile nose" of
the round cowling, yet let the air flows nicely and reduce frontal drag. The
lower part of the cowling would then be more or less like all the air-cooled
ones, sloping up gently.
Your aesthetic opinion would be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Hi There Michel.
This is not bad, in fact quite nice, but not much Kitfox look any more
:( ..
You'll have to make the lower half as well, then lift the tail and let's
see how it's look from the best side... :)
Keep up the good work.
Cheers
Torgeir.
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:17:11 +0100, Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> I don't know ... I have to do something with my cowling to match the
> Jabiru.
> But I am not sure what to do. The Jabiru should have a smooth cowling
> like the
> Skyfox. But then, I'd need to make a new firewall, glareshield, panel
> ... and
> probably a new windshield.
>
> Keeping the round cowling and making it longer and wider seems a bit
> stupid
> too, it no longer can resemble a rotary engine.
>
> But the profile of the Jabiru, with the air duct holes just above the
> prop
> shaft and on the top of the cowling, requires a lower top. Hence the
> difficulty
> to match the Skyfox cowling.
>
> Before I mould anything, I try to visualize with drawings. Please have a
> look at:
>
> http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/nose.jpg
>
> and let me know what you think of my drawing. Would you be ashamed to fly
> something like that? The advantage is that it keeps the "high profile
> nose" of
> the round cowling, yet let the air flows nicely and reduce frontal drag.
> The
> lower part of the cowling would then be more or less like all the
> air-cooled
> ones, sloping up gently.
>
> Your aesthetic opinion would be much appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Kitfox/Jabiru Cowling |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: DC91840@aol.com
I obtained an insert from Jabiru for in the 13" diameter
hole in the front of the cowling for the Classic IV.
I then modified it to match up to the air ducts on
my engine. This way I could keep the Kitfox bump cowling.
I have a 6 cyl. engine so I had to lengthen my cowling.
If you e-mail me I can send you a picture of my plane.
Good luck.
Don C. ( dc91840@aol.com)
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| Subject: | RE: hmm some have no concern for safety it sems but others |
understand what is an acceptable risk.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@sbcglobal.net>
We self certify ourselfs to drive every day then why not to fly.
My 4200 pound Chevy (95 Impalla SS with 350HP) would do alot more dammage
(and go faster) then my 1200 pound, 100HP Kitfox Classic VI. By the way the
accident rates for medical reasons is so small even with high performance,
complex, and IFR included that it is hard to calculate a usualable rate
from year to year. As for no medicals for commercial pilots, lets be real
hear. we are not talking about 100,000 pound 500 mph complex aircraft
here.This rule has defined limits on the performance of the aircraft for a
reason. I am much more conserned about that careless pilot that takes off
into IMC without filing a flight plan than I am about a sport pilot with no
medical. As an aviation safety professional I hope this new rule will get
some of our older pilots back into the air as their experance can help
others make better decissions when in the air. They did not get to be older
pilots by being a bad pilots. If you want to be a safe pilot, remember to
never stretch your fuel supply and stay out of the clouds if you and your
ship are not IFR current. These are the two big killers of pilots.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: mea dork <k1i2ygj@yahoo.com>
i have a large box of spare kitfox parts. this was from a series 7 that was damaged
in the crate. there is wood metal nuts bolts tires, a little of everything
thousands of individually wrapped pieces. im unsure of the value, contact
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
I recall seeing somewhere in all the specs that running at 6800 RPM has
a
time limit. Don't remember but something like 1-2 minutes. It sounds like
you are saying you can cruise at 6800 for long duration's. Maybe I read it
wrong or maybe I'm mistaken about the time limit at max RPM's????
Don,
I think you misunderstood me re 6,800 all day. I would suggest that
those RPM's on there own from the point of view of just RPM's need not be a
problem depending on the motor build characteristics. However 6,500 is max
power in a Rotax 582 if I remember correctly and 6,800 is ok straight and
level, but it is flat out [ unless we drop the nose ] so we don't fly flat
out all the time like we don't push virtually any motor that way. I think
there is somewhere a suggested 5 minute limit on this and I'd think that's a
fair suggestion. In any case if I do remember right and that is the official
recommendation then that's what we should heed. Those engineers might just
be smarter than me. Sorry if I gave a wrong idea.
However on the other hand I don't like the idea of pitching the prop so it
won't pull these RPM's as I feel then it is working harder. ie:- slogging
the motor. Consider a manual car in overdrive. It's great cruising on the
flat but come to a rise or even a head wind and we quick smart drop out of
overdrive, don't we ? Hope everyone can understand better what I'm trying
to convey. Note, I said I cruise at 6,000 anyway and in fact my friend when
he's got the controls tends to fly at even lower RPM.
So what I'm trying to suggest is we should set up our pitch to pull 6,800
S&L. Not overpitch to hold it to a lower figure. We might think we are
cutting the RPM's back and being kind to our motor but we are setting it up
to work harder and the RPM's on there own are pretty insignifigant. In fact
I'd suspect any wear and tear we save by over pitching is outweighed by
overloading.
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Vortex Generators. - Kurt |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Kurt,
I value your testing of vortex generators. I was disappointed with the
results you got in your recent tests. (But not your tests!)
Here is a website that falls out of the Kolb list that Torgeir alerted us
to. http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/Vortex%20Generators.html
At this web site they show a lot of closely spaced VG's. I believe this is
more and more closely than what you tested. I don't know what the cord of
the Kolb wing is, but it seems that they are placed further back than what
is usually suggested.
I am just selfishly trying to goad you into doing more tests.
(and reporting the results. (;-) )
Randy
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| Subject: | Re: hmm some have no concern for safety it sems |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> Welcome to Canada where our beef has been tainted by the US gov.
>
> Dave
Dave, be so kind as to explain what the prevoious sentence means. From the
tone, I suspect you are not a great friend of the US.
Lowell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Gibbs" <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: hmm some have no concern for safety it sems
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
> >
> > Dave sez:
> >
> > >geez I bet you hope the next pilot carrying your family home on a 757
> has
> > >his medical?
> > >
> > >If also the guy in the sport pilot plane that just ran into him that
> > >passed out cause of his lack of respect for others.
> >
> > In the grand scheme of things, pilot medical problems cause less than
> > 1/10th of 1 percent of all airplane accidents. One could argue
> > that's because the FAA and the authorities in other countries do such
> > a good job with screening out those that are not healthy enough to
> > fly safely, but it isn't hard to find a lot of aviation medical
> > examiners who feel the rules are way behind the times in terms of
> > what are and what are not troublesome medical conditions for pilots.
> > It might just be that people without a history of debilitating
> > medical conditions seldom develop one in flight.
> >
> > It could also be argued that a lot of dangerous medical conditions
> > have plenty of time to crop up between physicals, hence the
> > requirement on pilots to assess their own airworthiness prior to each
> > flight. Having a valid medical certificate does not mean you are fit
> > to fly.
> >
> > Apparently the FAA has been convinced that pilots conforming to the
> > sport pilot rules do not pose a significant threat to others. Recall
> > that, while a medical certificate is not required for sport flight,
> > someone who has been denied a medical remains grounded.
> >
> > Time will tell if this position is justified.
> >
> > Mike G.
> > N728KF
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Backup for Mikuni pump |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Jose,
I have a couple of friends that work for Aerojet - the rocket engine
makers. After every design is proposed, they have a meeting in which the
design team has to defend the design before a committee of very skeptical
engineers. They report that sometimes it can get pretty brutal, but the
plan is to discover the failure modes before they become failures in
practice.
Ultimately after several sessions such as this, the prototype is tested. It
is a pretty cost effective way to avoid expensive mistakes.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Backup for Mikuni pump
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
>
> Don:
>
> I'm not attempting to copy these two guys, but I read in a book titled
"The Wright Stuff" that this was the way Orville and Wilbur did their
critical thinking. They would fiercely defend their point, but at the same
time were honestly looking for evidence proving they were wrong. Well, the
point is that their method was effective, and our Kitfoxes are the evidence.
>
> Going back to the backup pump theme, it would not work with the Mikuni
because of the pulse line, but could be a good alternative for other type of
pumps. However, that my friend is another story beyond the scope of the
582ers.
>
> Jose
>
> AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
> << Listers:
>
> It looks like replacing the mikuni fuel pump annually with a brand new one
> solves the backup pump issue. I would add to this to also replace the
pulse
> line.
>
> To be honest, it makes sense. Seems extremely unlikely to fail during its
> first year, and is cheap enough to be economically feasible.
>
> You convinced me I made an overkill. This is why I'm an addict to this
> list...
>
> Jose
> >>
>
> Jose,
> It is a privilege to discuss problems with someone like yourself. You
> don't mind saying, "you might have made a mistake". There are others that
would
> rather die than admit something like that. I like criticism if it's kept
> nonpersonal. That's what makes us learn.
> BTW, I can recall one pump failure (crash landing) that was caused by a
> ruptured pulse line. As I recall, the pulse line had not been changed in a
> long/long time. Pilot error the way I see it.
>
> Don Smythe
> N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
>
>
> Jose M. Toro, P.E.
> Kitfox II/582
> "A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Grove Gear Installation Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Jimmy, I think there might be an easier way. Make a short "sawhorse" like
stand, maybe three inches taller than the fittings at the lift strut
attachments. Lift the tail and have someone put the sawhorse under the
fittings then tie a weight to the tail to hold it down. This will lift the
forward fuselage and should give plenty of support and you won't have to
worry about it falling or breaking anything.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Grove Gear Installation Model IV
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
<jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
> Received my Grove main gear a few days ago and am making plans to install
it in the next few days. I am leaning toward renting an engine hoist or
cherry picker and lifting the front of the airplane by attaching rope to the
points on the fuselage where the engine mounts connect and to the engine
mount where the engine attaches. Someone please tell me if there are any
precautions I need to consider such as putting to much stress on my attach
points or if I need to consider other lift points.
>
> Thanks
> Jimmie
>
>
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| Subject: | Kitfox/Jabiru Cowling |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: FlyCyOZ@aol.com
Reference the cowl -- I have a flat cowl for a Lyc engine and am modifying
it to fit the nose-bowl for the Jabiru 3300 -- requires cutting off the nose
- splitting the cowl lengthwise - then bringing on all of the pieces to
match. I have a mate here in OZ (Australia) that is a GENIUS with fibreglass and
he is helping me along.
There is a guy in CT with the round cowl that has done a GREAT job on his KF
with a round cowl -- you might want to check with him -- he has the Jabiru
3300 in his plane.
Cheers from OZ & Happy Holidays
cy
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