Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 07:37 AM - John McBean's award (Fred Shiple)
2. 07:38 AM - John McBean's award (Fred Shiple)
3. 08:18 AM - Re: John McBean's award (jdmcbean)
4. 09:46 AM - Cardboard plane (so far) (Michel Verheughe)
5. 10:00 AM - Re: Cardboard plane (so far) (Don Pearsall)
6. 10:18 AM - Re: 912 Choke Sticking ?? (Randy Daughenbaugh)
7. 10:48 AM - Re: Cardboard plane (so far) (Michel Verheughe)
8. 03:17 PM - Torque Specs C box (Lmar)
9. 03:57 PM - Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring (Jimmie Blackwell)
10. 04:31 PM - Re: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
11. 04:42 PM - Re: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring (Fox5flyer)
12. 05:16 PM - Re: Cardboard plane (so far) (Jose M. Toro)
13. 05:18 PM - Re: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring (Lowell Fitt)
14. 05:27 PM - Numbers (Kirk Martenson)
15. 06:08 PM - Re: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring (Jimmie Blackwell)
16. 06:08 PM - Re: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring (Jimmie Blackwell)
17. 07:18 PM - Re: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring (Fox5flyer)
18. 08:16 PM - Re: Torque Specs C box (David Savener)
19. 08:18 PM - Who owns or flys it (Bob Unternaehrer)
20. 08:29 PM - Re: Who owns or flys it (Jay & Beverly Carter)
21. 08:31 PM - Re: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring (Lowell Fitt)
22. 08:37 PM - Re: Who owns or flys it (Lowell Fitt)
23. 09:15 PM - Re: Numbers (jdmcbean)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | John McBean's award |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
John,
Congratulations on the Custom Built Tube and Fabric Award you received at the Copperstate
Fly-In. Saw your Series 7 last summer in California and can understand
why a discerning judge would make that award. You do nice work!
Fred
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | John McBean's award |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | John McBean's award |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Thank you !
Blue Skies
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred Shiple
Subject: Kitfox-List: John McBean's award
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
John,
Congratulations on the Custom Built Tube and Fabric Award you received at
the Copperstate Fly-In. Saw your Series 7 last summer in California and can
understand why a discerning judge would make that award. You do nice work!
Fred
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Cardboard plane (so far) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
G'day, ladies and gents.
You've heard of paper planes. I tried to bring the technology one step further
by introducing the carboard plane. Cheap and easy to build. However, be careful
not to fly on a rainy day! :-)
http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/hangar1.jpg
http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/CowlStart.jpg
http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/Cowl1.jpg
Seriously: Not as much of a "hump" as I feared. Looks good. Now, I'll have to
smooth it out and mould the real cowling inside.
Cheers,
Michel
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Cardboard plane (so far) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Hi Michel,
You have a great start. So the cardboard is going to be a female mold and
you are going to lay fiberglass on the inside? What do you use to smooth out
the cardboard, gypsum (drywall) mud?
I have made cowls by gluing foam to the engine, then smoothing and laying
fiberglass on the OUTSIDE, but not inside. Let us know your fabrication
techniques, and of course show us more pictures as you progress.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
Subject: Kitfox-List: Cardboard plane (so far)
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
G'day, ladies and gents.
You've heard of paper planes. I tried to bring the technology one step
further
by introducing the carboard plane. Cheap and easy to build. However, be
careful
not to fly on a rainy day! :-)
http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/hangar1.jpg
http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/CowlStart.jpg
http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/Cowl1.jpg
Seriously: Not as much of a "hump" as I feared. Looks good. Now, I'll have
to
smooth it out and mould the real cowling inside.
Cheers,
Michel
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | 912 Choke Sticking ?? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Thanks John,
I will pursue your suggestions next time I am at the airport. I am anxious
to get it home to my own strip, but am trying to get some hours on it at an
airport out on the plains before I fly home.
Randy
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 Choke Sticking ??
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
That is the Series 7 choke system.. Typically works well. I had a similar
situation on another aircraft... I re-checked the nuts on the side of the
choke to make sure they were not over tightened... removed the cable and
installed new cable.. problem went away.... Found a burr in the cable..
sometimes it would catch sometimes not..
Sounds like you have isolated to the carbs... Not likely that both carbs
would act the exact same way... Common link would be the cable.. Have you
disconnected one carb ??
Blue Skies
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Randy
Daughenbaugh
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 Choke Sticking ??
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
<rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Gee, that's a tough one John. I have the series 7 firewall foreward and am
not sure whether the choke came with that or the original series 5 kit.
It is the one with two cables going to a ring at the panel. ???
The problem is definitely with the carbs, not the cable though. The cables
work smoothly. Both chokes seem to seize at the same rate (over a couple
weeks), but once broken free, work fine.
Randy
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 Choke Sticking ??
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Randy,
Do you have the original Series 5 or 6 choke ??
Blue Skies
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Randy
Daughenbaugh
Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 Choke Sticking ??
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
<rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
When ever my Fox sits for a week or two (which has been happening way too
often lately) the choke sticks. Once you break it loose it is fine, but I
nearly tear the panel off tugging on it to break it loose. I thought for a
long time that it was in the cables or cable housing some place, but this
last time I checked all the cable and it was fine, but it took pliers to
actually turn the choke arm on the carb.
As I understand it, the choke is just a valve that opens up another path way
for gas to get to the engine. This seems to lead to the conclusion that the
valve is sticking. (?)
Anybody else experience this with the Bing 64?
Randy - Series 5/7, 912S
.
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Cardboard plane (so far) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Don Pearsall wrote:
> I have made cowls by gluing foam to the engine, then smoothing and laying
> fiberglass on the OUTSIDE, but not inside. Let us know your fabrication
> techniques, and of course show us more pictures as you progress.
Of course, I will, Don.
The foam and outside fiberglass sounds good too. I am less than sure I do the
right thing but my "method" is this:
Since I intend to keep the aft part of the round cowling, I need to match the
shape of the end and ram air duct inlets, to what I already have. It is then a
matter of transform the half-circle shape to something flatter at the end. In
my mind, cardboard was a good choice to shape this.
What I intend to do now is this: I'll fiberglass the outside to make it
stiffer. I'll smooth the inside with epoxy with micro-balloons. Then I'll give
it an epoxy finish and wax it several times.
After that, I'll cut the existing aft cowling at an angle such as I can lay
fiberglass without building a sharp edge. After putting my "cardboard" thing on
the aft cowl, I'll lay fiberglass fabric and epoxy on the inside. I think I'll
need 3 layers of fabric (200 gr/m2). When that is finished, I'll mould it out
and I'll probably have to touch up the junction with filler. Sand everything
again and paint with polyurethane.
After that, I use the upper cowling as a template for the lower part, which I
also intent top process in a similar way.
There are certainly dozens of ways to mould a cowling. I am not sure my way is
the best way, but so far, it looks like it will work. My main concern is that
there is a perfect match between the cowling and the air ducts so that my
engine cools properly.
Cheers,
Michel
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
s=s1024; d=yahoo.com;
b=Sms3bvWnGMlRZ6oLh+z2UfrVf5cXj3xoWW90ozCXx1xH2AQmDUvURtYhFsKetp8cJ/RkIpug2+Lj8Q3EJ6p6vkRzaCR9VcPFURi0qGAQZSwc6S7Ev4dee1Sk+7Rva9BsLRHsbAcT+NgkP2vXFBw/Sht4bE0PUeg65UEnj1kWmPE=
;
| Subject: | Torque Specs C box |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lmar <my93avid@yahoo.com>
David,
I was given the following specs by Danny Day when I opened my c box up for a
look a couple years ago.
11mm bolt torque to 210" by stages, 50,100,150, then 210"
The outer bolts should be sequenced in a criss cross pattern 25,50,then 90"lbs.
Hope this isn't too late for you.
Have fun,
Larry
---------------------------------
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Reading Drew Fidoe's article on Tailwheel Repair and Set-up it would appear that
I need to do some tuning on my tail wheel spring. One of the suggestions in
Mr. Fidoe's article is to set the vertical fork shaft for 15 to 20 degrees in
the forward to aft plane. My vertical fork shaft on the Maule tail wheel is
set to about 5 to 10 degrees in the aft direction. Makes sense to me that if
the vertical fork shaft is tilted forward the tailwheel would have a bit more
stability and would naturally tend to straighten the airplane when rolling. With
that said I am looking for suggestions on how to bend the Grove tail spring
to achieve the 15 to 20 degrees forward or should I try to use shims at one
of the attach points to the fuselage. Appreciate your ideas.
Jimmie
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 12/5/04 3:58:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,
jablackwell@ev1.net writes:
<< the tailwheel would have a bit more stability and would naturally tend to
straighten the airplane when rolling. With that said I am looking for
suggestions on how to bend the Grove tail spring to achieve the 15 to 20 degrees
forward or should I try to use shims at one of the attach points to the fuselage.
Appreciate your ideas.
>>
Jimmie,
The best way to go here is to call Robbie Grove. He is great to work
with and I wouldn't doubt, if you need that bend, he would do it for you at
little to no cost. He has the means and ability.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Jimmy, you didn't say if you were having a problem with it, I'd suggest that
unless you're having shimmy trouble, don't mess with it. If you haven't
flown it yet, wait until you do and see what happens. I don't think you can
bend that Grove spring anyway. You'd have to send it back to Robby or use
the shims.
Darrel
> Reading Drew Fidoe's article on Tailwheel Repair and Set-up it would
appear that I need to do some tuning on my tail wheel spring. One of the
suggestions in Mr. Fidoe's article is to set the vertical fork shaft for 15
to 20 degrees in the forward to aft plane. My vertical fork shaft on the
Maule tail wheel is set to about 5 to 10 degrees in the aft direction.
Makes sense to me that if the vertical fork shaft is tilted forward the
tailwheel would have a bit more stability and would naturally tend to
straighten the airplane when rolling. With that said I am looking for
suggestions on how to bend the Grove tail spring to achieve the 15 to 20
degrees forward or should I try to use shims at one of the attach points to
the fuselage. Appreciate your ideas.
>
> Jimmie
>
>
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
s=s1024; d=yahoo.com;
b=mqh1u/HNZZE1fa7UI/LjO4OmLjNdW/5gXIQeqNqB8BKHfjyIcFR2+RBx/l3oRiLpYff7goe4wp39Ct/1Td90KPKQ686B6ZVuUS35tyyxb8ujQWUiyO/udurxwMFKerDH0E85FtV7EqIiWmxY6ySk55xqv0vf9Zep9QELSfc/F10=
;
| Subject: | Re: Cardboard plane (so far) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
Michel:
You really know what you are doing! Keep going!!! I'm at the opposite side of
the planet waiting for your "progress reports" and learning from your experience.
Saludos,
Jose
ichel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe
G'day, ladies and gents.
You've heard of paper planes. I tried to bring the technology one step further
by introducing the carboard plane. Cheap and easy to build. However, be careful
not to fly on a rainy day! :-)
http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/hangar1.jpg
http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/CowlStart.jpg
http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/Cowl1.jpg
Seriously: Not as much of a "hump" as I feared. Looks good. Now, I'll have to
smooth it out and mould the real cowling inside.
Cheers,
Michel
Jose M. Toro, P.E.
Kitfox II/582
"A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
---------------------------------
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Jimmie, I think I'd use shims at the wheel end. Easy to do and easy to
undo if the result is not what you are looking for. I shimmed mine that
way.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
<jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
> Reading Drew Fidoe's article on Tailwheel Repair and Set-up it would
appear that I need to do some tuning on my tail wheel spring. One of the
suggestions in Mr. Fidoe's article is to set the vertical fork shaft for 15
to 20 degrees in the forward to aft plane. My vertical fork shaft on the
Maule tail wheel is set to about 5 to 10 degrees in the aft direction.
Makes sense to me that if the vertical fork shaft is tilted forward the
tailwheel would have a bit more stability and would naturally tend to
straighten the airplane when rolling. With that said I am looking for
suggestions on how to bend the Grove tail spring to achieve the 15 to 20
degrees forward or should I try to use shims at one of the attach points to
the fuselage. Appreciate your ideas.
>
> Jimmie
>
>
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kirk Martenson" <kirk@mninter.net>
Is there anyone out there who has any engineering information about the Kitfox?
Specifically the Kitfox Classic IV?
I spoke with Frank Miller at Oshkosh about possibly getting a 10% increase in gross
weight because I want to put my Classic IV Speedster on floats. Frank told
me to email him at Skystar and he would "run the numbers" to see if the 10%
gross weight increase would be feasible. The problem is that I have been trying
for months to get in contact with Skystar, but they will not return my emails,
or my calls.
Does anyone know where or whom may have some engineering experience or contacts
that can help me?
Thanks.
Kirk Martenson
Classic IV Speedster.
Message 15
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Lowell
I like the shim idea better also. Bending the aluminum spring gear scares
me as I suppose it could weaken the metal.
Sure would like some more detail on your shims. Did you make them or were
you able to buy them from Grove?
Thanks
Jimmie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> Jimmie, I think I'd use shims at the wheel end. Easy to do and easy to
> undo if the result is not what you are looking for. I shimmed mine that
> way.
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
> <jablackwell@ev1.net>
> >
> > Reading Drew Fidoe's article on Tailwheel Repair and Set-up it would
> appear that I need to do some tuning on my tail wheel spring. One of the
> suggestions in Mr. Fidoe's article is to set the vertical fork shaft for
15
> to 20 degrees in the forward to aft plane. My vertical fork shaft on the
> Maule tail wheel is set to about 5 to 10 degrees in the aft direction.
> Makes sense to me that if the vertical fork shaft is tilted forward the
> tailwheel would have a bit more stability and would naturally tend to
> straighten the airplane when rolling. With that said I am looking for
> suggestions on how to bend the Grove tail spring to achieve the 15 to 20
> degrees forward or should I try to use shims at one of the attach points
to
> the fuselage. Appreciate your ideas.
> >
> > Jimmie
> >
> >
>
>
Message 16
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Darrel
I have so little experience with tail wheel airplanes that my judgment of a
good or bad handling is not very reliable. A friend with lots of experience
with the Kitfox thinks that it is a bit harder to handle on the ground than
others he has flown. BTW I just installed the Grove main gear, but have not
flown it. That will probably make a lot of difference compared to the
bungee gear. The tailwheel issue is just another step to minimize the risk
of bending the airplane or me. BTW, I have soloed it with bungee gear and
am doing ok in light wind.
Jimmie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
>
> Jimmy, you didn't say if you were having a problem with it, I'd suggest
that
> unless you're having shimmy trouble, don't mess with it. If you haven't
> flown it yet, wait until you do and see what happens. I don't think you
can
> bend that Grove spring anyway. You'd have to send it back to Robby or use
> the shims.
> Darrel
>
> > Reading Drew Fidoe's article on Tailwheel Repair and Set-up it would
> appear that I need to do some tuning on my tail wheel spring. One of the
> suggestions in Mr. Fidoe's article is to set the vertical fork shaft for
15
> to 20 degrees in the forward to aft plane. My vertical fork shaft on the
> Maule tail wheel is set to about 5 to 10 degrees in the aft direction.
> Makes sense to me that if the vertical fork shaft is tilted forward the
> tailwheel would have a bit more stability and would naturally tend to
> straighten the airplane when rolling. With that said I am looking for
> suggestions on how to bend the Grove tail spring to achieve the 15 to 20
> degrees forward or should I try to use shims at one of the attach points
to
> the fuselage. Appreciate your ideas.
> >
> > Jimmie
> >
> >
>
>
Message 17
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> Darrel
> I have so little experience with tail wheel airplanes that my judgment of
a
> good or bad handling is not very reliable. A friend with lots of
experience
> with the Kitfox thinks that it is a bit harder to handle on the ground
than
> others he has flown. BTW I just installed the Grove main gear, but have
not
> flown it. That will probably make a lot of difference compared to the
> bungee gear. The tailwheel issue is just another step to minimize the
risk
> of bending the airplane or me. BTW, I have soloed it with bungee gear and
> am doing ok in light wind.
> Jimmie
I prefer the tailwheel kingpin to be perpendicular when loaded and the
springs with tension on them. Add too much angle and it'll do the old
shopping cart thing on you, but it shouldn't be any cause for bending the
airplane. More of an annoyance than anything. Some tailwheels are more
prone than others. Lots of opinions on this subject and the archives are
full of it. This is one of those topics than can go on forever, but not
really end up with any conclusion. I'd fly it first, then if there's a
problem go from there.
Darrel
Message 18
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Torque Specs C box |
Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 22:15:37 -0600
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Savener" <david_savener@msn.com>
Thanks for the help. I couldn't find that information anywhere!
Dave S
----- Original Message -----
From: Lmar<mailto:my93avid@yahoo.com>
To: Kitfox<mailto:Kitfox-List@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 5:16 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Torque Specs C box
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lmar <my93avid@yahoo.com<mailto:my93avid@yahoo.com>>
David,
I was given the following specs by Danny Day when I opened my c box up for
a look a couple years ago.
11mm bolt torque to 210" by stages, 50,100,150, then 210"
The outer bolts should be sequenced in a criss cross pattern 25,50,then 90"lbs.
Hope this isn't too late for you.
Have fun,
Larry
---------------------------------
Message 19
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Who owns or flys it |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilohcom@c-magic.com>
At the risk of a non kitfox subject, but maybe a liitle different fun....Who flys
or owns N171AJ and what color and type of aircraft is it.
Blue Skies
Bob Unternaehrer
shilohcom@c-magic.com
Message 20
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Who owns or flys it |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay & Beverly Carter" <valley361@centurytel.net>
Owner- AVIAT AIRCRAFT MODEL A-1B
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilohcom@c-magic.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Who owns or flys it
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
<shilohcom@c-magic.com>
>
> At the risk of a non kitfox subject, but maybe a liitle different
fun....Who flys or owns N171AJ and what color and type of aircraft is it.
>
> Blue Skies
> Bob Unternaehrer
> shilohcom@c-magic.com
>
>
Message 21
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Jimmie, first I made my own shim. I have a small mill and it took a few
minutes.
Regarding ground handling, My experience is only in tail draggers - a C-170
used in primary training and a Citabria used for a long delayed BFR - 20+
years. I don't find the ground handling of the Kitfox to be particularly
challenging. One thing, though is quite important. Main gear misalignment
will make for one squirrelly airplane. The wheels ideally should track
parallel or at worst slightly toed out. Toe in will tend to aggravate any
error on the pilot's part. Toe-out will tend to mitigate it.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
<jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
> Darrel
>
> I have so little experience with tail wheel airplanes that my judgment of
a
> good or bad handling is not very reliable. A friend with lots of
experience
> with the Kitfox thinks that it is a bit harder to handle on the ground
than
> others he has flown. BTW I just installed the Grove main gear, but have
not
> flown it. That will probably make a lot of difference compared to the
> bungee gear. The tailwheel issue is just another step to minimize the
risk
> of bending the airplane or me. BTW, I have soloed it with bungee gear and
> am doing ok in light wind.
>
> Jimmie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Grove Aluminum Tail Wheel Spring
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
<morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> >
> >
> > Jimmy, you didn't say if you were having a problem with it, I'd suggest
> that
> > unless you're having shimmy trouble, don't mess with it. If you haven't
> > flown it yet, wait until you do and see what happens. I don't think you
> can
> > bend that Grove spring anyway. You'd have to send it back to Robby or
use
> > the shims.
> > Darrel
> >
> > > Reading Drew Fidoe's article on Tailwheel Repair and Set-up it would
> > appear that I need to do some tuning on my tail wheel spring. One of
the
> > suggestions in Mr. Fidoe's article is to set the vertical fork shaft for
> 15
> > to 20 degrees in the forward to aft plane. My vertical fork shaft on
the
> > Maule tail wheel is set to about 5 to 10 degrees in the aft direction.
> > Makes sense to me that if the vertical fork shaft is tilted forward the
> > tailwheel would have a bit more stability and would naturally tend to
> > straighten the airplane when rolling. With that said I am looking for
> > suggestions on how to bend the Grove tail spring to achieve the 15 to 20
> > degrees forward or should I try to use shims at one of the attach points
> to
> > the fuselage. Appreciate your ideas.
> > >
> > > Jimmie
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 22
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Who owns or flys it |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Serial Number 2280 Type Registration Corporation
Manufacturer Name AVIAT AIRCRAFT INC Certificate Issue Date None
Model A-1B Status Assigned to Manufacturer
Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine Type Engine Reciprocating
Pending Number Change None Dealer Yes
Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code 50216355
MFR Year None Fractional Owner NO
----
Registered Owner
Name AVIAT AIRCRAFT INC
Street PO BOX 1240
City AFTON State WYOMING Zip Code 83110-1240
County LINCOLN
Country UNITED STATES
----
From the FAA database.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilohcom@c-magic.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Who owns or flys it
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
<shilohcom@c-magic.com>
>
> At the risk of a non kitfox subject, but maybe a liitle different
fun....Who flys or owns N171AJ and what color and type of aircraft is it.
>
> Blue Skies
> Bob Unternaehrer
> shilohcom@c-magic.com
>
>
Message 23
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Kirk,
I know from working at SS that they considered increasing the gross of
the
Model IV-1200. When they ran the numbers it was determined that the Model
IV had reached it's limit... It had essentially evolved from a 950 to 1050
and then to 1200... to take it higher would require a re-design. There were
also a lot of requests for a larger aircraft that would allow for the use of
some of the certified engines... The Series 5 was born......
You also mentioned Speedster... Is your aircraft a Speedster (Short Wing) or
Classic IV ??
Blue Skies
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kirk Martenson
Subject: Kitfox-List: Numbers
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kirk Martenson" <kirk@mninter.net>
Is there anyone out there who has any engineering information about the
Kitfox? Specifically the Kitfox Classic IV?
I spoke with Frank Miller at Oshkosh about possibly getting a 10% increase
in gross weight because I want to put my Classic IV Speedster on floats.
Frank told me to email him at Skystar and he would "run the numbers" to see
if the 10% gross weight increase would be feasible. The problem is that I
have been trying for months to get in contact with Skystar, but they will
not return my emails, or my calls.
Does anyone know where or whom may have some engineering experience or
contacts that can help me?
Thanks.
Kirk Martenson
Classic IV Speedster.
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|