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1. 04:46 AM - Re: 912 Ignition Module Problem (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
2. 05:18 AM - Tired (Bob Unternaehrer)
3. 05:36 AM - Re: 912 Ignition Module Problem (Steve Magdic)
4. 05:38 AM - SV: Tired (Michel Verheughe)
5. 06:45 AM - Re: My plane is a Classic IV. It also has the shorter wings. I ordered the (flier)
6. 06:58 AM - Re: 912 Ignition Module Problem (Lyle Persels)
7. 07:02 AM - Re: Tired (Lyle Persels)
8. 07:06 AM - Re: My plane is a Classic IV. It also has the shorter wings. I ordered the (John Oakley)
9. 09:27 AM - Re: Tired (Ted Palamarek)
10. 11:06 AM - Re: My plane is a Classic IV. It also has the shorter wings. I (Clint Bazzill)
11. 11:17 AM - test (Clint Bazzill)
12. 12:17 PM - Re: Moulding techniques (Michel Verheughe)
13. 12:47 PM - Re: plane for sale (roger augenstein)
14. 12:47 PM - Re: 912 Ignition Module Problem (Ted Palamarek)
15. 12:49 PM - Re: My plane is a Classic IV. It also has... (Fox5flyer)
16. 01:05 PM - Re: Re: plane for sale (Don Pearsall)
17. 01:35 PM - Modules (Jeffrey Puls)
18. 02:09 PM - Re: Re: plane for sale (roger augenstein)
19. 03:35 PM - Re: My plane is a Classic IV. It also has... (customtrans@qwest.net)
20. 06:35 PM - Re: Tired (shortnaked)
21. 07:24 PM - Re: Tired (dwight purdy)
22. 09:42 PM - Kitfox Model IV-1200 and Classic IV and Speedster (Clint Bazzill)
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| Subject: | Re: 912 Ignition Module Problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 12/8/04 10:01:41 PM Pacific Standard Time,
SOURDOSTAN@aol.com writes:
<< his Model IV Speedster. One module appears to not be working, so he
switched
all wires with the other unit. It still does not work. Is there some way
to
verify the condition of an ignition module? If it needs replacing, has
anyone >>
Stan,
I'm not a 912 guy but that problem sounds a little like the old "broken
wire at the module". This has happened to several folks. The modules mounted
on the engine cause vibration and the wires will break internally just before
the module. Some one else will probably jump in here but I believe you can
carefully feel the wires at that point and possibly detect a break. I think the
fix is to cut and splice the broken wire then isolate from future vibration.
The real fix is to move the module off the engine to a more friendly location
with less vibration and better support of the wires at the exits.
See the "KITFOXSAFE" list on sportflight.com.... On second thought, I
don't see the list there anymore??
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilohcom@c-magic.com>
Can't we make a concerted effort to only clip a small part of a message we want
to respond to for identity purposes rather than repeating lines and lines and
lines of past messages. The list administrator has ask and ask us to with not
much results. Please ,,, Please.. I have clipped one of the entire messages
from yesterday as an example below.
<<<<<<<________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________
Time: 09:13:05 PM PST US
From: Tom Jones <tomfromlapine@peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: My plane is a Classic IV. It also has the shorter
wings. I ordered the
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tom Jones <tomfromlapine@peoplepc.com>
Here's my story,
In 1994 I read an article in an Aviation magazine about Skystar's new
model of kit plane, called the "XL". I wanted one so flew right over
there in my Cherokee to check it out. They informed me the XL was no
longer available in the US, only from Skystar France, in France of
course. But, they had just introduced a new model called the Classic 4
and it was the same as the XL. So,I ordered the Classic 4 with the 503
Rotax. Then I was a little confused when a big box arrived with parts
labeled XL, Series 5, 912 firewall, 582 muffler shield, and, some
Classic 4 parts as well. It was supposed to be a complete Kit but no
parts were provided to hook up the fuel system or mount the engine to
the motor mount. My Classic 4 manual had the engine and fuel system
sections for an XL but I didn't have most of those parts. Thanks to the
good nature of a fellow they had just hired named Dan Hansen, I
eventually was sent enough parts to make a complete airplane. Then the
Lite squared was introduced which turned out was supposed to be the same
as the classic 4. I have come to the conclusion that the reality is,
they are all the same except different.
I ended up bending that airplane on the third flight. Skystar took GOOD
care of me getting it rebuilt and I support them today for doing that!!!
Thanks Skystar,
Tom Jones
PS, I have a 582 muffler shield if anyone needs one and my series 5
rudder gap seal ended up on a classic 4 in Texas.
Lowell Fitt wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> Maybe this will help. First of all "Speed Wing" to my knowledge has never
> been used with reference to a Kitfox. It is a term that the Avid factory, I
> believe, used with one of their wing designs.
>
> The Speedster was introduced in late 1992 along with the upgrade of the
> Model IV 1050 to the Model IV 1200. This was a gross weight increase. This
> also corresponded with the sale of Denney Aerocraft to Phil Reed which
> became Skystar Aircraft Corp. I ordered my Kitfox from Denney Aerocraft in
> December of 1992 and it was delivered by Skystar in March of 1993. The
> Speedster kit was shipped with a distinctive serial number. My serial
> m\number is CCU 008. The first C represents the month (3) of manufacture.
> the second C represents the Year of manufacture 9(3) and the U represents
> standard model. If I had ordered a Speedster, my serial number would be CCS
> 008 - the S meaning Speedster.
>
> Some time later - a year or three, a new President was brought in. His name
> escapes me for the moment, but one of his first moves was to discontinue the
> Model IV - long wing and Speedster - in favor of concentrating on the Series
> V and the purchase of Pulsar. When Ed Downs came back, a year or two after
> that - I ordered my kit from Ed in 1992 - one of the first things he did was
> resurrect the Model IV and in keeping with Coca-Cola's resurrection of their
> original formula, Ed called it the Classic IV, i.e. Classic Coke. The
> Speedster was not resurrected as an official model designation at that time.
>
> The Speedster modifications were always available as options to Model IV /
> Classic IV builders so anyone that has a Model IV - 1200 or a Classic IV
> could build an exact Speedster look a like, but it would be considered a
> Model / Classic IV with Speedster mods. based on serial number.
>
> An example might be a classic Corvette. If the serial number shows it to be
> a wimpy 6 cylinder production model that someone put all the muscle stuff
> into, it would remain a modified wimp. It might look the same, perform the
> same and cost the same, but you wouldn't accurately be able to call it
> anything than a modified such and such. I am not much of a car guy, so
> apologies for the poor example.
>
> All this said, it wouldn't offend me a bit if a Classic IV owner that had
> all the Speedster modifications, simply referred to his airplane as a
> Speedster. I think it might be a bit misleading however, if it were
> presented to a prospective buyer as a Speedster, even though it could be
> identical in every way to a Speedster, except for the S in the serial
> number.
>
> Lowell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: My plane is a Classic IV. It also has the shorter
> wings. I ordered the
>
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
>>
>>My plane is a Classic IV. It also has the shorter wings. I ordered the
>>Speedster when I purchased the kit, then when I got the kit, they told me
>
> it
>
>>was a Classic IV with speedster mods. I called it the Classic IV
>
> Speedster
>
>>when I spoke with tech support several years ago. They told me it was a
>>Classic IV without the Speedster title, however when I told them that I
>>ordered a Speedster not a classic IV, they said a Speedster was a classic
>
> IV
>
>>with Speedster mods. So, I guess I will call it a Classic IV Speedster
>>because nobody at Skystar will tell me what I have. What ever the name,
>
> the
>
>>gross weight is 1200 lbs, and it has airfoiled tailfeathers and short
>
> wings.
>
>>I read all this with interest and amusement. I bought my plane from the
>>original builder 12 months ago. At that time when he was selling it I
>
> wanted
>
>>to verify his claims. I contacted Skystar and experienced all this with no
>>real solid set in concrete definition of what my plane is. I found this
>
> very
>
>>strange and a bit disturbing at the time. However the main point I thought
>
> I
>
>>got out of all this was that my plane with the 32ft laminar flow wing [
>
> ie:-
>
>>flat across the bottom ] is called the "Speedster" and the normal wing cut
>>down to 29ft when built is called " Speedwing " I am not going to argue
>>about it however as I am fast coming to the impression that no one really
>>knows strangely enough. I guess a lot of us have gained different ideas
>
> and
>
>>in the end thought we had it sorted. Anyway does it really matter if one
>
> is
>
>>happy with what they have got ? It's just that the lack of a definite name
>>leaves a certain amount of confusion as to what exactly one is talking
>>about. Skystar originally told me I could not have a Speedster with my
>>serial number as it came later. They then told me the Speedster was not a
>>29ft cut down wing but the 32ft laminar flow wing. Can you work it out ?
>>
>>Rex.
>>
>>Australia.
>>rexjan@bigpond.com>>>>>>>>>>
Blue Skies
Bob Unternaehrer
shilohcom@c-magic.com
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| Subject: | 912 Ignition Module Problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Magdic" <steve.magdic@1psg.com>
Don has a point. I am running a 912 and have had broken ground wires on these modules
several times. Go back and recheck all the wire connections carefully. If they
are all
intact, you may need to take out a second mortgage to pay for a new module.
Steve Magdic
N490PA
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-----Original Message-----
From: AlbertaIV@aol.com [mailto:AlbertaIV@aol.com]
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 Ignition Module Problem
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 12/8/04 10:01:41 PM Pacific Standard Time,
SOURDOSTAN@aol.com writes:
<< his Model IV Speedster. One module appears to not be working, so he
switched
all wires with the other unit. It still does not work. Is there some way
to
verify the condition of an ignition module? If it needs replacing, has
anyone >>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Bob Unternaehrer [shilohcom@c-magic.com]
> Can't we make a concerted effort to only clip a small part of a message we want
to
> respond to for identity purposes rather than repeating lines and lines
We have a poster in our coffee room, at work, Bob, that says (loosely translated)
"Leave this room as you would like to find it in the morning, and remember:
Your mother doesn't work here!"
Likewise, we should edit our post the way we like to read them: Relevant title,
and to the point.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: My plane is a Classic IV. It also has the shorter wings. |
I ordered the
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
Hey Lynn, mines ADU149. Hopefully it was a good
production run! ;
)
--- Original Message ---
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: My plane is a Classic IV.
It also has the shorter wings. I ordered the
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
<lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
>Thanks for clearing that up, Lowell. My plane is
serial numbered ADU
>150, and Frank Miller told me that it was built (or
sold) in Jan of
>1994, so your number /letter code explanation holds
true for my plane,
>a IV-1200. Nice to get an explanation that works.
>
>Lynn
>do not archive
>On Wednesday, December 8, 2004, at 09:49 PM, Lowell
Fitt wrote:
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt"
<lcfitt@inreach.com>
>> My serial
>> m\number is CCU 008. The first C represents the
month (3) of
>> manufacture.
>> the second C represents the Year of manufacture 9
(3) and the U
>> represents
>> standard model. If I had ordered a Speedster, my
serial number would
>> be CCS
>> 008 - the S meaning Speedster.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 912 Ignition Module Problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lyle Persels <lpers@mchsi.com>
I experienced a module failure a few months ago. Because of the price of
a replacement ($782 at Lockwood), I was highly motivated to be
absolutely positive that the module had failed before ordering a
replacement. Wire failures, particularly in the ground wire, have been
reported from time to time, so I checked all wires very carefully. Every
check seemed to indicate that the module had failed internally, so I
called and talked to Lockwood about it. They have no specialized test
equipment, but agreed to install the module on an engine the next time
they had one on the test stand. After a two-month delay (running from
and cleaning up after four different hurricanes), they called and
advised that the module was indeed faulty, so I ordered a new one. I
then moved the coil and module cluster to the firewall side of the
engine mount.
Lyle Persels
SOURDOSTAN@aol.com wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: SOURDOSTAN@aol.com
>
>A friend is experiencing a problem with one of his 912 ignition modules on
>his Model IV Speedster. One module appears to not be working, so he switched
>all wires with the other unit. It still does not work. Is there some way to
>verify the condition of an ignition module? If it needs replacing, has anyone
>found a source other than the Rotax dealers at a price that doesn't take your
>breath away, or does anyone have a working spare that he might borrow to try on
>his engine?
>
>Thanks for your ideas, and Happy Holidays.
>
>Stan Specht
>N16KC "Columbine"
>Kitfox Model IV Speedster 912ul
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lyle Persels <lpers@mchsi.com>
Thanks, Bob. We have been getting careless and needed the reminder.
Bob Unternaehrer wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilohcom@c-magic.com>
>
>Can't we make a concerted effort to only clip a small part of a message we want
to respond to for identity purposes rather than repeating lines and lines and
lines of past messages.
>
...clip
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| Subject: | My plane is a Classic IV. It also has the shorter wings. |
I ordered the
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <joakley@ida.net>
Lowell,
that was a great explination of models. Mine is HBS-046 speedster bought
in august of 92. I also know that the speedsters were built in a jij
that was modified from a model one. we have a bow in the opening of our
doors. Also a taller tail
John Oakley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: My plane is a Classic IV. It also has the
shorter wings. I ordered the
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Maybe this will help. First of all "Speed Wing" to my knowledge has never
been used with reference to a Kitfox. It is a term that the Avid factory, I
believe, used with one of their wing designs.
The Speedster was introduced in late 1992 along with the upgrade of the
Model IV 1050 to the Model IV 1200. This was a gross weight increase. This
also corresponded with the sale of Denney Aerocraft to Phil Reed which
became Skystar Aircraft Corp. I ordered my Kitfox from Denney Aerocraft in
December of 1992 and it was delivered by Skystar in March of 1993. The
Speedster kit was shipped with a distinctive serial number. My serial
m\number is CCU 008. The first C represents the month (3) of manufacture.
the second C represents the Year of manufacture 9(3) and the U represents
standard model. If I had ordered a Speedster, my serial number would be CCS
008 - the S meaning Speedster.
Some time later - a year or three, a new President was brought in. His name
escapes me for the moment, but one of his first moves was to discontinue the
Model IV - long wing and Speedster - in favor of concentrating on the Series
V and the purchase of Pulsar. When Ed Downs came back, a year or two after
that - I ordered my kit from Ed in 1992 - one of the first things he did was
resurrect the Model IV and in keeping with Coca-Cola's resurrection of their
original formula, Ed called it the Classic IV, i.e. Classic Coke. The
Speedster was not resurrected as an official model designation at that time.
The Speedster modifications were always available as options to Model IV /
Classic IV builders so anyone that has a Model IV - 1200 or a Classic IV
could build an exact Speedster look a like, but it would be considered a
Model / Classic IV with Speedster mods. based on serial number.
An example might be a classic Corvette. If the serial number shows it to be
a wimpy 6 cylinder production model that someone put all the muscle stuff
into, it would remain a modified wimp. It might look the same, perform the
same and cost the same, but you wouldn't accurately be able to call it
anything than a modified such and such. I am not much of a car guy, so
apologies for the poor example.
All this said, it wouldn't offend me a bit if a Classic IV owner that had
all the Speedster modifications, simply referred to his airplane as a
Speedster. I think it might be a bit misleading however, if it were
presented to a prospective buyer as a Speedster, even though it could be
identical in every way to a Speedster, except for the S in the serial
number.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: My plane is a Classic IV. It also has the shorter
wings. I ordered the
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
>
> My plane is a Classic IV. It also has the shorter wings. I ordered the
> Speedster when I purchased the kit, then when I got the kit, they told me
it
> was a Classic IV with speedster mods. I called it the Classic IV
Speedster
> when I spoke with tech support several years ago. They told me it was a
> Classic IV without the Speedster title, however when I told them that I
> ordered a Speedster not a classic IV, they said a Speedster was a classic
IV
> with Speedster mods. So, I guess I will call it a Classic IV Speedster
> because nobody at Skystar will tell me what I have. What ever the name,
the
> gross weight is 1200 lbs, and it has airfoiled tailfeathers and short
wings.
>
> I read all this with interest and amusement. I bought my plane from the
> original builder 12 months ago. At that time when he was selling it I
wanted
> to verify his claims. I contacted Skystar and experienced all this with no
> real solid set in concrete definition of what my plane is. I found this
very
> strange and a bit disturbing at the time. However the main point I thought
I
> got out of all this was that my plane with the 32ft laminar flow wing [
ie:-
> flat across the bottom ] is called the "Speedster" and the normal wing cut
> down to 29ft when built is called " Speedwing " I am not going to argue
> about it however as I am fast coming to the impression that no one really
> knows strangely enough. I guess a lot of us have gained different ideas
and
> in the end thought we had it sorted. Anyway does it really matter if one
is
> happy with what they have got ? It's just that the lack of a definite name
> leaves a certain amount of confusion as to what exactly one is talking
> about. Skystar originally told me I could not have a Speedster with my
> serial number as it came later. They then told me the Speedster was not a
> 29ft cut down wing but the 32ft laminar flow wing. Can you work it out ?
>
> Rex.
>
> Australia.
> rexjan@bigpond.com
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
They other thing that needs to be said again is the use
of ----DO NOT ARCHIVE --- people are sending Fluff back and
forth that needs to be discarded and not wind up in the
archives.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Ted Palamarek
<<<<SNIP>>>>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lyle Persels
<lpers@mchsi.com>
Thanks, Bob. We have been getting careless and needed the
reminder.
Bob Unternaehrer wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
<shilohcom@c-magic.com>
>
>Can't we make a concerted effort to only clip a small part
of a message we want to respond to for identity purposes
rather than repeating lines and lines and lines of past
messages.
>
...clip
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| Subject: | My plane is a Classic IV. It also has the shorter wings. |
I
ordered the
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
No, it means if you put in a wind screen that it .125 inches thick it will
go to 140. Clint
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
test
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| Subject: | Re: Moulding techniques |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Mike Chaney wrote:
> The exterior of the cowling looks really good but I'm
> getting some crack at the patched areas.
Wouldn't it then be simpler to only reinforce the inside with one layer of
light fiberglass fabric, Mike?
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: plane for sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "roger augenstein" <raugenstein@fuse.net>
For medical and financial reasons I am forced to sell my kitfox V, Sub EJ22 engine,
Ross drive, Icom radio Tx /encoder, dual rudders and brakes, dual PTT, EXP
bus, Eggenfellner intake, custom SS exhaust, Grove gear front and rear. wheel
painted and ready to install, tinted Lexan turtledeck and full Lexan doors,
custom upholstery, Warp 3 blade prop. Ser #94100055. Total time 23 hours.
Due to distance to get the tail dragger endorsement and heavy work load, flying
time is low. Located 30 miles south of Cincinnati, OH at Gene Snyder Airport,
Falmouth, KY. My phone is 859-380-7346 or e-mail raugenstein@fuse.net. I have
plenty of pictures. I have it listed also on barnstormers.com at $38,000.00
OBO.
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| Subject: | 912 Ignition Module Problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
Stan
Has your friend done a continuity check of the module wires
with a VOM?? The way to do this is to use a sharp object
such as a pin to pierce the insulation as close to the
module as possible and see if perhaps a wire may be broken
where it exits the module. This is a stress point and in the
past several instances of this type of failure have
occurred. Essentially you should have zero ohms from the pin
connection to the other end of the wire. While observing the
VOM reading jiggle the wires to see if perhaps there is an
intermittent connection. Somewhere I have seen the ohm value
for leads coming off the module. I will look for these
tonight and if I can find them --- will post them to you.
Ted Palamarek
Edmonton
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Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 Ignition Module Problem
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: SOURDOSTAN@aol.com
A friend is experiencing a problem with one of his 912
ignition modules on
his Model IV Speedster. One module appears to not be
working, so he switched
all wires with the other unit. It still does not work. Is
there some way to
verify the condition of an ignition module? If it needs
replacing, has anyone
found a source other than the Rotax dealers at a price that
doesn't take your
breath away, or does anyone have a working spare that he
might borrow to try on
his engine?
Thanks for your ideas, and Happy Holidays.
Stan Specht
N16KC "Columbine"
Kitfox Model IV Speedster 912ul
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| Subject: | Re: My plane is a Classic IV. It also has... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> No, it means if you put in a wind screen that it .125 inches thick it will
> go to 140. Clint
Wow! Where do I get one of those things? :-)
D
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Roger, Your Series V with an EJ22 must be a real hot-rod. Care to tell us
your performance with that engine?
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of roger
augenstein
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: plane for sale
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "roger augenstein" <raugenstein@fuse.net>
For medical and financial reasons I am forced to sell my kitfox V, Sub EJ22
engine, Ross drive, Icom radio Tx /encoder, dual rudders and brakes, dual
PTT, EXP bus, Eggenfellner intake, custom SS exhaust, Grove gear front and
rear. wheel painted and ready to install, tinted Lexan turtledeck and full
Lexan doors, custom upholstery, Warp 3 blade prop. Ser #94100055. Total
time 23 hours. Due to distance to get the tail dragger endorsement and
heavy work load, flying time is low. Located 30 miles south of Cincinnati,
OH at Gene Snyder Airport, Falmouth, KY. My phone is 859-380-7346 or e-mail
raugenstein@fuse.net. I have plenty of pictures. I have it listed also on
barnstormers.com at $38,000.00 OBO.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Another way of checking the wires going in to the module is to grasp the wire with
both hands close together ( At the module). Pull ever so lightly but firmly.
If you see the rubber sheath flex (At all) you have a broken wire. Checking
it with a meter won't catch it every time. I'm so confident with this procedure
I just take out my pocket knife and cut through it like butter. Haven't missed
one yet. Jeff Classic IV.
Jeffrey Puls
pulsair@mindspring.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "roger augenstein" <raugenstein@fuse.net>
Don, it does fly great and quick off the ground. I'm still working on the
landings. Haven't had time for any speed runs over a course for an accuate
reading. Wish I could have flown off the 40 hrs but just don't seem to be
ble to do it. Thanks for inquiry.
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: plane for sale
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
<donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
> Roger, Your Series V with an EJ22 must be a real hot-rod. Care to tell us
> your performance with that engine?
> Don Pearsall
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of roger
> augenstein
> To: kitfox list
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: plane for sale
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "roger augenstein"
<raugenstein@fuse.net>
>
> For medical and financial reasons I am forced to sell my kitfox V, Sub
EJ22
> engine, Ross drive, Icom radio Tx /encoder, dual rudders and brakes, dual
> PTT, EXP bus, Eggenfellner intake, custom SS exhaust, Grove gear front and
> rear. wheel painted and ready to install, tinted Lexan turtledeck and full
> Lexan doors, custom upholstery, Warp 3 blade prop. Ser #94100055. Total
> time 23 hours. Due to distance to get the tail dragger endorsement and
> heavy work load, flying time is low. Located 30 miles south of Cincinnati,
> OH at Gene Snyder Airport, Falmouth, KY. My phone is 859-380-7346 or
e-mail
> raugenstein@fuse.net. I have plenty of pictures. I have it listed also on
> barnstormers.com at $38,000.00 OBO.
>
>
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| Subject: | My plane is a Classic IV. It also has... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
So now I am to unstand that the windshield at .125 thick will increase the
Vne???
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: My plane is a Classic IV. It also has...
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> No, it means if you put in a wind screen that it .125 inches thick it will
> go to 140. Clint
Wow! Where do I get one of those things? :-)
D
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
This thread gone to the dogs.
whining about this and that.
does anyone actually fly ?
i was out 5 times today.
Unreal a real pilot that not care about who post and forgets to delete this
or that .
Shorty likes lazair.com cause it got free movies of ultralights when i
not flying i watch em LOL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lyle Persels" <lpers@mchsi.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lyle Persels <lpers@mchsi.com>
>
> Thanks, Bob. We have been getting careless and needed the reminder.
>
> Bob Unternaehrer wrote:
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
<shilohcom@c-magic.com>
> >
> >Can't we make a concerted effort to only clip a small part of a message
we want to respond to for identity purposes rather than repeating lines and
lines and lines of past messages.
> >
> ...clip
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
Up twice yesterday and once today! Yah!
Dwight
do not archive.
At 09:34 PM 12/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
>
>This thread gone to the dogs.
>whining about this and that.
>
>does anyone actually fly ?
>
>i was out 5 times today.
>
>
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| Subject: | Kitfox Model IV-1200 and Classic IV and Speedster |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
John Mcbean can correct me on this but I believe that the speed on the
Model IV was limited to 125 MPH because the wind screen distortated at the
higher airspeeds. The Model IV came with a .093 inch thickness. I now
have a .125 inch wind screenand have increased my Vne to 140 MPH
Other differences of the earlier Speedsters was split flaperon. Dual
balance weights on flaperons, 1/2 on each end. Built up tail feathers,
electric trim. Shortend wings. Radiator scoop fairing etc. And of course a
.125 inch wind screen that people seem to have trouble installing. I put
one on and had no problems. Clint
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