---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/10/04: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:59 AM - Re: Moulding techniques (Mike Chaney) 2. 05:15 AM - Re: Tired (scottm) 3. 05:35 AM - Re: Tired (shortnaked) 4. 07:31 AM - Gas Cap (Bill Pleso) 5. 08:24 AM - Re: Gas CapI just made a fairing last week...:-) (Aerobatics@aol.com) 6. 08:25 AM - Re: Tired (Lowell Fitt) 7. 08:40 AM - Re: Moulding techniques (Lowell Fitt) 8. 08:58 AM - Re: Tired (shortnaked) 9. 09:27 AM - Placerville.. was Tired (jdmcbean) 10. 10:12 AM - jets crash (shortnaked) 11. 11:18 AM - Actually Fly? OT (EMAproducts@aol.com) 12. 11:41 AM - Re: Actually Fly? OT (shortnaked) 13. 11:51 AM - Re: Actually Fly? OT (Steve Magdic) 14. 01:07 PM - Re: Actually Fly? OT (Randy Daughenbaugh) 15. 01:16 PM - Re: Actually Fly? OT (Jose M. Toro) 16. 02:08 PM - Re: Tired (Glenn Horne) 17. 02:26 PM - Re: Moulding techniques (Michel Verheughe) 18. 02:45 PM - Re: Placerville.. was Tired (Lowell Fitt) 19. 02:52 PM - Re: Tired (Lowell Fitt) 20. 03:40 PM - Another way of checking the wires going in to the module is to grasp the wire with (Rex & Jan Shaw) 21. 05:15 PM - Grove Gear (Jimmie Blackwell) 22. 05:30 PM - Re: Gas Cap (AlbertaIV@aol.com) 23. 05:52 PM - Re: Gas Cap (Cudnohufsky's) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:59:52 AM PST US From: Mike Chaney Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Moulding techniques --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Chaney I've done this but the cowling is getting pretty thick and a few cracks still occur. I think I can eliminate the stress areas when I form the new cowling. Thanks Michel Verheughe replied: Wouldn't it then be simpler to only reinforce the inside with one layer of light fiberglass fabric, Mike? Mike Chaney wrote: > The exterior of the cowling looks really good but I'm > getting some crack at the patched areas. Michel do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:49 AM PST US From: "scottm" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "scottm" I hear that. Thanks for the reminder about what's important. I wish I could say I had been up five times this month (let alone five times this week), but the weather gods have been wreaking havoc around here. It's either rainin' or blowin'. I can't complain though. I got out last Sunday for 1.9 hours of time logged on a dual cross-country to Atlantic City. Got my endorsements for class D airspace as well as class C at Atlantic City. I now have my signoff for my first solo cross-country mission. Now I can really start knockin' off these PPL requirements! DO NOT ARCHIVE > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > This thread gone to the dogs. > whining about this and that. > > does anyone actually fly ? > > i was out 5 times today. > > Unreal a real pilot that not care about who post and > forgets to delete this or that . > > Shorty likes lazair.com cause it got free movies of > ultralights when i not flying i watch em LOL ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:23 AM PST US From: "shortnaked" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" Hey Scott, Glad to hear. I kinda spoiled as my hangar is 100 feet from house and have 3 runways here. Problem now is we are special vfr in the contol zone here today and looks like poor weather next 5 days. But luckily i am out side of controlled airspace by 1 mile so as long as i got 500 foot ceiling and 3 miles vis i will likely escape to the skies. I would expect skis will be needed soon but not till we get a base first. Soft fluff over ploughed fields is not the best for ski flying, but they again soft muddy ploughed fields are not the best for forced approach either. Shorty ----- Original Message ----- From: "scottm" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "scottm" > > I hear that. Thanks for the reminder about what's > important. > I wish I could say I had been up five times this month (let > alone five times this week), but the weather gods have been > wreaking havoc around here. It's either rainin' or blowin'. > I can't complain though. I got out last Sunday for 1.9 > hours of time logged on a dual cross-country to Atlantic > City. Got my endorsements for class D airspace as well as > class C at Atlantic City. I now have my signoff for my > first solo cross-country mission. Now I can really start > knockin' off these PPL requirements! > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > > > This thread gone to the dogs. > > whining about this and that. > > > > does anyone actually fly ? > > > > i was out 5 times today. > > > > Unreal a real pilot that not care about who post and > > forgets to delete this or that . > > > > Shorty likes lazair.com cause it got free movies of > > ultralights when i not flying i watch em LOL > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:54 AM PST US From: "Bill Pleso" Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas Cap --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Pleso" Builders, I've noticed several installations of "gas cap fairings". Has anyone out there tried changing the gas cap to a flush fitting style, so that the only thing protruding is the "ram air / vent tube"? Bill do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:18 AM PST US From: Aerobatics@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas CapI just made a fairing last week...:-) --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com Can send you a photo if you like... Dave ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:15 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" My hangar is 6 feet from where I sit and about 20 feet from where I sleep, but we have only one runway - I feel deprived. If I can find the energy to walk the six feet, I just might go flying today. Usual between storms weather - high broken, about 15%. Tomorrow a local magazine (Sacramento Magazine) will do a little research on home built aircraft for a feature article. Several Kitfoxes will be in Placerville for that - so put me down for tomorrow for sure. Lowell Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "shortnaked" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > Hey Scott, Glad to hear. > I kinda spoiled as my hangar is 100 feet from house and have 3 runways > here. > Problem now is we are special vfr in the contol zone here today and looks > like poor weather next 5 days. > But luckily i am out side of controlled airspace by 1 mile so as long as i > got 500 foot ceiling and 3 miles vis i will likely escape to the skies. > > I would expect skis will be needed soon but not till we get a base first. > Soft fluff over ploughed fields is not the best for ski flying, but they > again soft muddy ploughed fields are not the best for forced approach > either. > > > Shorty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "scottm" > To: > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "scottm" > > > > I hear that. Thanks for the reminder about what's > > important. > > I wish I could say I had been up five times this month (let > > alone five times this week), but the weather gods have been > > wreaking havoc around here. It's either rainin' or blowin'. > > I can't complain though. I got out last Sunday for 1.9 > > hours of time logged on a dual cross-country to Atlantic > > City. Got my endorsements for class D airspace as well as > > class C at Atlantic City. I now have my signoff for my > > first solo cross-country mission. Now I can really start > > knockin' off these PPL requirements! > > > > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > > > > > This thread gone to the dogs. > > > whining about this and that. > > > > > > does anyone actually fly ? > > > > > > i was out 5 times today. > > > > > > Unreal a real pilot that not care about who post and > > > forgets to delete this or that . > > > > > > Shorty likes lazair.com cause it got free movies of > > > ultralights when i not flying i watch em LOL > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:36 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Moulding techniques --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Mike, I have done a bit of fiberglass work. It has been my experience that most surface cracks are in the finish - gellcoat, microfill, color coat, etc. Layering from the back won't help in these areas except in giving confidence that the whole thing won't just break and blow away. Another thought, when patching, the original glass should be chamfered to a feather edge, so the new glass addition will result in a scarf joint. This will help eliminate the cracks at the edges of the patch. I have used a flapperwheel in a die grinder for this or if there is a lot of material to remove a 4" angle grinder works pretty well Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Chaney" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Moulding techniques > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Chaney > > I've done this but the cowling is getting pretty thick and a few cracks > still occur. I think I can eliminate the stress areas when I form the new > cowling. > Thanks > > Michel Verheughe replied: > Wouldn't it then be simpler to only reinforce the inside with one layer of > light fiberglass fabric, Mike? > > Mike Chaney wrote: > > The exterior of the cowling looks really good but I'm > > getting some crack at the patched areas. > > > Michel > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:30 AM PST US From: "shortnaked" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" My hangar is 6 feet from where I sit and about 20 feet from where I sleep, but we have only one runway - I feel deprived. LOL you are 14 feet from where you sit where you sleep ? Come on you are sleeping under your WING lol you live in airpark under wing LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" > > My hangar is 6 feet from where I sit and about 20 feet from where I sleep, > but we have only one runway - I feel deprived. If I can find the energy to > walk the six feet, I just might go flying today. Usual between storms > weather - high broken, about 15%. > > Tomorrow a local magazine (Sacramento Magazine) will do a little research on > home built aircraft for a feature article. Several Kitfoxes will be in > Placerville for that - so put me down for tomorrow for sure. > > Lowell > > Do not archive > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "shortnaked" > To: > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > > > Hey Scott, Glad to hear. > > I kinda spoiled as my hangar is 100 feet from house and have 3 runways > > here. > > Problem now is we are special vfr in the contol zone here today and > looks > > like poor weather next 5 days. > > But luckily i am out side of controlled airspace by 1 mile so as long as i > > got 500 foot ceiling and 3 miles vis i will likely escape to the skies. > > > > I would expect skis will be needed soon but not till we get a base > first. > > Soft fluff over ploughed fields is not the best for ski flying, but they > > again soft muddy ploughed fields are not the best for forced approach > > either. > > > > > > Shorty > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "scottm" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "scottm" > > > > > > I hear that. Thanks for the reminder about what's > > > important. > > > I wish I could say I had been up five times this month (let > > > alone five times this week), but the weather gods have been > > > wreaking havoc around here. It's either rainin' or blowin'. > > > I can't complain though. I got out last Sunday for 1.9 > > > hours of time logged on a dual cross-country to Atlantic > > > City. Got my endorsements for class D airspace as well as > > > class C at Atlantic City. I now have my signoff for my > > > first solo cross-country mission. Now I can really start > > > knockin' off these PPL requirements! > > > > > > > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > > > > > > > This thread gone to the dogs. > > > > whining about this and that. > > > > > > > > does anyone actually fly ? > > > > > > > > i was out 5 times today. > > > > > > > > Unreal a real pilot that not care about who post and > > > > forgets to delete this or that . > > > > > > > > Shorty likes lazair.com cause it got free movies of > > > > ultralights when i not flying i watch em LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:31 AM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: Kitfox-List: Placerville.. was Tired --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" Not fair... I'm 20 miles from my airplane and runway... I only flew over 300 hours to date this year..... What time are you going to be in Placerville... Debra and I just might have to try and fly down.... Weather here has not been very predictable.... Blue Skies John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" My hangar is 6 feet from where I sit and about 20 feet from where I sleep, but we have only one runway - I feel deprived. If I can find the energy to walk the six feet, I just might go flying today. Usual between storms weather - high broken, about 15%. Tomorrow a local magazine (Sacramento Magazine) will do a little research on home built aircraft for a feature article. Several Kitfoxes will be in Placerville for that - so put me down for tomorrow for sure. Lowell ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:12:13 AM PST US From: "shortnaked" Subject: Kitfox-List: jets crash --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" 2 Canadian Forces Jets Crash South Of Saskatchewan - CP 12:50 EST Friday, December 10, 2004 NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- Two jets from the Canadian Forces' famed Snowbirds aerobatic team crashed in mid-air during a routine training flight Friday morning, the military said, according to a report by the Canadian Press news agency. Capt. Jay Walker of 15 Wing, the Snowbirds' Saskatchewan home base, said search and rescue crews had been dispatched to the crash site about 65 kilometers south of Moose Jaw, according to the CP. Walker said one pilot was in each aircraft and their status wasn't immediately known, the news agency reported. The 15 Wing ground search and rescue team was being assisted by two search aircraft that were attempting to locate the pilots and coordinate rescue efforts, Canadian Press reported. "We're just really trying to get to the pilots right now. That's our first priority," said 2nd Lt. Andrea Collins of 15 Wing. Collins said the planes crashed in mid-air. "They were on a routine training mission," she said, according to the CP. All flying-training operations have been temporarily suspended at 15 Wing while investigators try to determine the cause of the crash, the news agency reported. It was the second crash this year involving pilots from 15 Wing. In May, two pilots escaped from a Hawk training jet before it crashed in a private field about two kilometers northwest of the base, the CP report said. Dow Jones Newswires 12-10-04 1235ET Copyright (C) 2004 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Copyright Dow Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "shortnaked" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > My hangar is 6 feet from where I sit and about 20 feet from where I sleep, > but we have only one runway - I feel deprived. > > > LOL you are 14 feet from where you sit where you sleep ? > > Come on you are sleeping under your WING lol > > you live in airpark under wing LOL > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lowell Fitt" > To: > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" > > > > My hangar is 6 feet from where I sit and about 20 feet from where I sleep, > > but we have only one runway - I feel deprived. If I can find the energy > to > > walk the six feet, I just might go flying today. Usual between storms > > weather - high broken, about 15%. > > > > Tomorrow a local magazine (Sacramento Magazine) will do a little research > on > > home built aircraft for a feature article. Several Kitfoxes will be in > > Placerville for that - so put me down for tomorrow for sure. > > > > Lowell > > > > Do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "shortnaked" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > > > > > Hey Scott, Glad to hear. > > > I kinda spoiled as my hangar is 100 feet from house and have 3 runways > > > here. > > > Problem now is we are special vfr in the contol zone here today and > > looks > > > like poor weather next 5 days. > > > But luckily i am out side of controlled airspace by 1 mile so as long as > i > > > got 500 foot ceiling and 3 miles vis i will likely escape to the > skies. > > > > > > I would expect skis will be needed soon but not till we get a base > > first. > > > Soft fluff over ploughed fields is not the best for ski flying, but > they > > > again soft muddy ploughed fields are not the best for forced approach > > > either. > > > > > > > > > Shorty > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "scottm" > > > To: > > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > > > > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "scottm" > > > > > > > > I hear that. Thanks for the reminder about what's > > > > important. > > > > I wish I could say I had been up five times this month (let > > > > alone five times this week), but the weather gods have been > > > > wreaking havoc around here. It's either rainin' or blowin'. > > > > I can't complain though. I got out last Sunday for 1.9 > > > > hours of time logged on a dual cross-country to Atlantic > > > > City. Got my endorsements for class D airspace as well as > > > > class C at Atlantic City. I now have my signoff for my > > > > first solo cross-country mission. Now I can really start > > > > knockin' off these PPL requirements! > > > > > > > > > > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > > > > > > > > > This thread gone to the dogs. > > > > > whining about this and that. > > > > > > > > > > does anyone actually fly ? > > > > > > > > > > i was out 5 times today. > > > > > > > > > > Unreal a real pilot that not care about who post and > > > > > forgets to delete this or that . > > > > > > > > > > Shorty likes lazair.com cause it got free movies of > > > > > ultralights when i not flying i watch em LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:18:26 AM PST US From: EMAproducts@aol.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Actually Fly? OT --> Kitfox-List message posted by: EMAproducts@aol.com shortnaked@golden.net> does anyone actually fly ? i was out 5 times today. You must have better weather than we do in the NW this time of the year!! It is below IFR minimums a lot lately. Elbie Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:41:05 AM PST US From: "shortnaked" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Actually Fly? OT --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" IFR here today CYXU 101812Z 06010KT 2 1/2SM -RA BR OVC003 RMK FG2NS6 :( ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Kitfox-List: Actually Fly? OT > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: EMAproducts@aol.com > > shortnaked@golden.net> > > does anyone actually fly ? > > i was out 5 times today. > You must have better weather than we do in the NW this time of the year!! It > is below IFR minimums a lot lately. > Elbie > Do Not Archive > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:51:10 AM PST US Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Actually Fly? OT From: "Steve Magdic" --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Magdic" Milwaukee, Wisconsin - rain, snow, wind, rain turning to snow, more wind, dark at 4:30pm, work till 7:30pm... Not necessarily in that particular order. THAT is just how it is here this time of year. My KitFox is REAL shiny in the hanger though. Steve M. N490PA do not archive -----Original Message----- From: EMAproducts@aol.com [mailto:EMAproducts@aol.com] Subject: Kitfox-List: Actually Fly? OT --> Kitfox-List message posted by: EMAproducts@aol.com shortnaked@golden.net> does anyone actually fly ? i was out 5 times today. You must have better weather than we do in the NW this time of the year!! It is below IFR minimums a lot lately. Elbie Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:07:13 PM PST US From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Actually Fly? OT --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" 49 F, winds north at 2 mph. There may be a couple of clouds in the sky, but I don't see any. Near Rapid City, South Dakota Randy ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:16:00 PM PST US DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=FeAryX1enmKEyT4SthcTamfMsrojUiXKekG2fj/4BJzXrc3NXLLw8/zcF0etmMGcsG71EIZ6UpxxYnrtoBTwXeZSFVAwGwRIN2uf6e5uJ7quhpnWQE8mQrj4nzFpseZfo9W/PhL4JQo4H0PLQgk0ze6/zBnauq/vnwMuutovMbs= ; From: "Jose M. Toro" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Actually Fly? OT --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" Very nice weather here in the Caribbean Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" 49 F, winds north at 2 mph. There may be a couple of clouds in the sky, but I don't see any. Near Rapid City, South Dakota Randy Jose M. Toro, P.E. Kitfox II/582 "A slow flight in the Caribbean..." --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:08:59 PM PST US From: "Glenn Horne" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Tired --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" Brag.brag.brag. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" My hangar is 6 feet from where I sit and about 20 feet from where I sleep, but we have only one runway - I feel deprived. If I can find the energy to walk the six feet, I just might go flying today. Usual between storms weather - high broken, about 15%. Tomorrow a local magazine (Sacramento Magazine) will do a little research on home built aircraft for a feature article. Several Kitfoxes will be in Placerville for that - so put me down for tomorrow for sure. Lowell Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "shortnaked" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > Hey Scott, Glad to hear. > I kinda spoiled as my hangar is 100 feet from house and have 3 runways > here. > Problem now is we are special vfr in the contol zone here today and looks > like poor weather next 5 days. > But luckily i am out side of controlled airspace by 1 mile so as long as i > got 500 foot ceiling and 3 miles vis i will likely escape to the skies. > > I would expect skis will be needed soon but not till we get a base first. > Soft fluff over ploughed fields is not the best for ski flying, but they > again soft muddy ploughed fields are not the best for forced approach > either. > > > Shorty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "scottm" > To: > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "scottm" > > > > I hear that. Thanks for the reminder about what's > > important. > > I wish I could say I had been up five times this month (let > > alone five times this week), but the weather gods have been > > wreaking havoc around here. It's either rainin' or blowin'. > > I can't complain though. I got out last Sunday for 1.9 > > hours of time logged on a dual cross-country to Atlantic > > City. Got my endorsements for class D airspace as well as > > class C at Atlantic City. I now have my signoff for my > > first solo cross-country mission. Now I can really start > > knockin' off these PPL requirements! > > > > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > > > > > This thread gone to the dogs. > > > whining about this and that. > > > > > > does anyone actually fly ? > > > > > > i was out 5 times today. > > > > > > Unreal a real pilot that not care about who post and > > > forgets to delete this or that . > > > > > > Shorty likes lazair.com cause it got free movies of > > > ultralights when i not flying i watch em LOL > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:26:57 PM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Moulding techniques --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe Lowell Fitt wrote: > I have done a bit of fiberglass work. I think Lowell said it all, Mike. The scarf joint (gee, I learned a new word! :-) is of course a must for strength. Cheers, Michel do not archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:45:13 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Placerville.. was Tired --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" John, weather is pretty good here and should be the same for tomorrow. the meeting is set for 0900. Unless you like to fly in the early morning darkness or fly half way today, I don't know if the time is helpful to you or not. We just got back from a FedEx shipment expedition and the view of the Sierras, showed the snowy peaks in clear air. It would be nice to see you both, though. Of course you would have a place to stay. Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "jdmcbean" Subject: Kitfox-List: Placerville.. was Tired > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" > > Not fair... I'm 20 miles from my airplane and runway... I only flew over > 300 hours to date this year..... > > What time are you going to be in Placerville... Debra and I just might have > to try and fly down.... Weather here has not been very predictable.... > > Blue Skies > John & Debra McBean > www.sportplanellc.com > "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" > > My hangar is 6 feet from where I sit and about 20 feet from where I sleep, > but we have only one runway - I feel deprived. If I can find the energy to > walk the six feet, I just might go flying today. Usual between storms > weather - high broken, about 15%. > > Tomorrow a local magazine (Sacramento Magazine) will do a little research on > home built aircraft for a feature article. Several Kitfoxes will be in > Placerville for that - so put me down for tomorrow for sure. > > Lowell > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:52:44 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Actually I was sitting at my computer which is in our "study" which has a side door to the hangar. The 20 ft to the bedroom is accurate as the bedroom is in the second story - one room removed from the hangar door, but still within a 20 ft beeline. Yes, it is a residential airpark. The worst part is when my wife interrupts an important hangar project with the, "time for lunch" announcement. Lowell Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "shortnaked" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > My hangar is 6 feet from where I sit and about 20 feet from where I sleep, > but we have only one runway - I feel deprived. > > > LOL you are 14 feet from where you sit where you sleep ? > > Come on you are sleeping under your WING lol > > you live in airpark under wing LOL > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lowell Fitt" > To: > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" > > > > My hangar is 6 feet from where I sit and about 20 feet from where I sleep, > > but we have only one runway - I feel deprived. If I can find the energy > to > > walk the six feet, I just might go flying today. Usual between storms > > weather - high broken, about 15%. > > > > Tomorrow a local magazine (Sacramento Magazine) will do a little research > on > > home built aircraft for a feature article. Several Kitfoxes will be in > > Placerville for that - so put me down for tomorrow for sure. > > > > Lowell > > > > Do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "shortnaked" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > > > > > Hey Scott, Glad to hear. > > > I kinda spoiled as my hangar is 100 feet from house and have 3 runways > > > here. > > > Problem now is we are special vfr in the contol zone here today and > > looks > > > like poor weather next 5 days. > > > But luckily i am out side of controlled airspace by 1 mile so as long as > i > > > got 500 foot ceiling and 3 miles vis i will likely escape to the > skies. > > > > > > I would expect skis will be needed soon but not till we get a base > > first. > > > Soft fluff over ploughed fields is not the best for ski flying, but > they > > > again soft muddy ploughed fields are not the best for forced approach > > > either. > > > > > > > > > Shorty > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "scottm" > > > To: > > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tired > > > > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "scottm" > > > > > > > > I hear that. Thanks for the reminder about what's > > > > important. > > > > I wish I could say I had been up five times this month (let > > > > alone five times this week), but the weather gods have been > > > > wreaking havoc around here. It's either rainin' or blowin'. > > > > I can't complain though. I got out last Sunday for 1.9 > > > > hours of time logged on a dual cross-country to Atlantic > > > > City. Got my endorsements for class D airspace as well as > > > > class C at Atlantic City. I now have my signoff for my > > > > first solo cross-country mission. Now I can really start > > > > knockin' off these PPL requirements! > > > > > > > > > > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > > > > > > > > > This thread gone to the dogs. > > > > > whining about this and that. > > > > > > > > > > does anyone actually fly ? > > > > > > > > > > i was out 5 times today. > > > > > > > > > > Unreal a real pilot that not care about who post and > > > > > forgets to delete this or that . > > > > > > > > > > Shorty likes lazair.com cause it got free movies of > > > > > ultralights when i not flying i watch em LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:40:37 PM PST US From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" Subject: Kitfox-List: Another way of checking the wires going in to the module is to grasp the wire with --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" Another way of checking the wires going in to the module is to grasp the wire with both hands close together ( At the module). As a retired electronics tech I agree with this method as well as the pin through the insulation. However both are a bit tough on the wires so I would prefer to use those ideas only after measuring the resistance. Now I own a 582 not a 912 but doesn't the 912 have two identical modules ? Therfore measure all resitances from point to point on both modules. Be sure to measure each time swapping the probe polarity. If you then have a difference more than a few percent between modules it is a fair assumption that the module you suspect as faulty is. If you don't find any real difference then go to the pin through the insulation method then if still in doubt the pull method. This method of course can exactly pinpoint the break and allow you to fix it. Now I best explain a bit about swapping probe polarity. These modules use solid state components inside that will/can measure vastly different ohms depending on probe polarity. Say you are measuring between point "A" and point "B". You have a red probe and a black probe on your meter. Now if you are measuring a normal resistor or just a length of wire you can put the red probe to "A" and the black probe to "B" and get your measurement. Swap the probes ie:- black to "A" and red to "B" and the reading should be the same. However do this when measuring across a solid state device that is OK and you will get a different reading each way. Well that's basic anyway. So now when you measure your two modules for comparrison you should have taken all your measurements with probes both ways around. Also you should have measured between all possible points. The other obvious thing to do is to swap modules side for side. If the module is the fault the fault will swap from one ignition [ ie:- ign 1 or ign 2 ] to the other. However if the fault stays with the same ignition then it's not the module at fault. All this might be obvious to a lot but some have no idea about electronics and hopefully this will help them. Rex. rexjan@bigpond.com ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:15:53 PM PST US From: "Jimmie Blackwell" Subject: Kitfox-List: Grove Gear --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" Flew the Kitfox today for the first time with Grove main gear. Wow! Sure seems like an improvement to me over the bungee gear. With the Grove gear the airplane is much easier to handle on the ground. Jimmie ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:30:03 PM PST US From: AlbertaIV@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Cap --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 12/10/04 7:33:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, bill77@cox.net writes: << Builders, I've noticed several installations of "gas cap fairings". Has anyone out there tried changing the gas cap to a flush fitting style, so that the only thing protruding is the "ram air / vent tube"? Bill >> Bill, Yes, I did that. Sorta.... I put in flush caps that were non-vented. That meant I had to run a vent out the end of the tanks toward the wing tip. Works fine but, I had to cut my tanks open to do all this. Don Smythe N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:52:30 PM PST US From: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Cap --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net> Bill, Did you have any measurable gains from the flush mount caps? Which caps did you use and how did you install if you don't mind me asking. Lloyd Model 5 ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Cap > Bill, > Yes, I did that. Sorta.... I put in flush caps that were non-vented. > That meant I had to run a vent out the end of the tanks toward the wing > tip. > Works fine but, I had to cut my tanks open to do all this. > > Don Smythe > N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582 > > >