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1. 12:53 AM - Re: Cowl chafing (kurt schrader)
2. 08:47 AM - Re: Cowl chafing (jdmcbean)
3. 10:58 AM - Re: Cowl chafing (Michel Verheughe)
4. 11:31 AM - Re: Kitfox order update (Jim Carriere)
5. 11:59 AM - Re: Kitfox order update (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
6. 02:10 PM - Re: Cowl chafing (william mills)
7. 03:05 PM - Skystar (Rex & Jan Shaw)
8. 03:09 PM - 3 blade prop and 3 to 1 box. (Rex & Jan Shaw)
9. 04:50 PM - Re: 3 blade prop and 3 to 1 box. (shortnaked)
10. 04:57 PM - Re: Skystar (shortnaked)
11. 08:18 PM - Reduction drive (Rick)
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| Subject: | Re: Cowl chafing |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Michel,
Has anyone answered this for you yet?
There is a cowl anti-chafe tape that can be used to
stop this common type of rubbing. If that is hard to
get in Norway, you could substitute. Maybe a clear
outdoor vinal tape can do as a good substitute without
disrupting your paint design. It may have to be
changed more often, but your cowl would like it.
Be sure to clean the surface well before applying the
tape.
Kurt S.
--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
> What I wonder is, do I need a rubber seal between
> the two parts? I have seen a Rans with a strange
> milky fluid on the cowling. It was glassfiber powder
> mixed with rainwater. The powder came from two parts
> rubbing with the engine vibrations.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
I did not see the original post... I do have some clear anti-chafe tape
available.
Blue Skies
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kurt schrader
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Cowl chafing
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Michel,
Has anyone answered this for you yet?
There is a cowl anti-chafe tape that can be used to
stop this common type of rubbing
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| Subject: | Re: Cowl chafing |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
kurt schrader wrote:
> Has anyone answered this for you yet?
Nope! You're the first, my friend! :-)
> There is a cowl anti-chafe tape that can be used to
> stop this common type of rubbing. If that is hard to
> get in Norway, you could substitute.
Much is hard to find in Norway, Kurt. Especially in the little town where I
live. Remember that the entire population of Norway is only half that of New
York City!
jdmcbean wrote:
> I did not see the original post... I do have some clear anti-chafe tape
> available.
Very kind of you, John. After Kurt's advice, I was thinking to simply put a
bead of silicon rubber compound as one uses for bathrooms and (plenty of) on my
sailboat. Of course, it is coming out of a tube and needs to be spread in a
thin layer but ... compare to my present cowl moulding job, it will look like a
child's play. The idea then would be to have it as thick, or thin, as needed.
What do you think?
BTW, it was certainly my fault that you missed the original post, it was at the
bottom of a long email. Yes, I am too talkative, I know, my wife reminds me
that everyday! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox order update |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Carriere <jimcarriere@yahoo.com>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Bob & Margaret Olson
> <bobpa12@direcway.com>
>
> Just wanted to let everyone know that I received an e-mail from
> Frank Miller today,
> stating that I would be contacted Monday with a delivery date!
> Kind of ironic
> that I got this just 2 days after complaining about my order on
> this list!!!!
> Thanks to everyone that replyed to my message. It's nice to know
> that there
> is a wealth of information and advice as close as my computer. I
> will be anxiously
> awaiting my phone call from Skystar on Monday :)
>
> Bob Olson (Series 7 ?????)
Bob, since your order was from so long ago this may change your
shipping fees. My Series 7 kit was delayed by quite a bit earlier
this year and as a result my fees changed. The shipping company
they used for my kit has gives quotes/estimates that are only good
for so long. The cost of shipping is greatly affected by the cost
of fuel, and as you know fuel costs have changed quite a bit lately.
By the way, you do realize that, even when the crate arrives, some
components will likely be on backorder, don't you?
One more thing, for when your crate arrives. If you have read any
of the online journals of homebuilders, you will realize that
getting the shipping crate, intact, into your building area is a
major logistics problem with many solutions. I chose to pick it up
myself at the truck loading docks. I hired a flatbed two truck to
move the crate (it's about 16 feet long and a thousand pounds) from
there to my garage. A local company did an outstanding job of this
for what I believe was a reasonable fee. I have no affiliation with
the towing company, but since they guy such a good job I should
mention it is Bayside Towing of Gulf Breeze, FL. I was surprised
that the driver didn't even blink when I told him there was an
airplane inside the crate- unusual cargo must not be all that
unusual in the towing business.
Jim in NW FL, Series 7 in progress
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox order update |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 12/17/04 4:50:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,
bobpa12@direcway.com writes:
<< ust wanted to let everyone know that I received an e-mail from Frank
Miller today, stating that I would be contacted Monday with a delivery date! Kind
of ironic that I got t >>
Not really too ironic since Skystar and Frank monitor this list. At least,
they always have before.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: Cowl chafing |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: william mills <courierboy@earthlink.net>
Michel and all -
Saw a friend using strips of the "loop" part (of the hook and loop
velcro stripping) as anti-chafe material for the cowling on his
project. Seems to be a good idea but have no idea about service life,
etc.
Has anyone seen this used before?
Bill
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>kurt schrader wrote:
>> Has anyone answered this for you yet?
>
>Nope! You're the first, my friend! :-)
>
>> There is a cowl anti-chafe tape that can be used to
>> stop this common type of rubbing. If that is hard to
>> get in Norway, you could substitute.
>
>Much is hard to find in Norway, Kurt. Especially in the little town where I
>live. Remember that the entire population of Norway is only half that of New
>York City!
>
>jdmcbean wrote:
>> I did not see the original post... I do have some clear anti-chafe tape
>> available.
>
>Very kind of you, John. After Kurt's advice, I was thinking to simply put a
>bead of silicon rubber compound as one uses for bathrooms and
>(plenty of) on my
>sailboat. Of course, it is coming out of a tube and needs to be spread in a
>thin layer but ... compare to my present cowl moulding job, it will
>look like a
>child's play. The idea then would be to have it as thick, or thin, as needed.
>What do you think?
>
>BTW, it was certainly my fault that you missed the original post, it
>was at the
>bottom of a long email. Yes, I am too talkative, I know, my wife reminds me
>that everyday! :-)
>
>Cheers,
>Michel
>
>do not archive
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
The very first priority of any company is to communicate and sell. I see a
pattern of Skystar not tending to business. I know they are running on a
skeleton staff and I sympathize, but I only hear complaints anymore, where
we used to only hear praise.
I couldn't agree more. I'm sure none of us want to see them fold but like
things are going they appear to be heading that way in my opinion. I think
the danger is if they collect all this money so far ahead and they fold or
something then customers are likely to loose.
I would suggest that in both parties interest the money should be held in a
trust account not by Skystar. I think it's a reasonable conclusion that they
would be currently using this money paid up ahead for materials and labour.
That's fine up to a point, but when this money might be at risk it needs to
be held in a trust account. A variation might be part paid up and part in
the trust account. Skystar could possibly get a more favourable overdraft
rate against the trust account anyway than without it. I realise they do
also need some security on the order and a trust account does that for both
sides.
We can't tell Skystar what to do but a customer ordering a kit can
negotiate a trust account deal and this might be prudent.
When the money is collected so far ahead it suggests to me that ones money
is not even being used on ones own kit but on someone elses further up the
line.
Mind you I do wish Skystar success. I see them as an important part of all
the kitfox flyers. Negative talk like this may not be helping them but one
must protect ones interests. If Skystar want to help themselves I would
suggest as Don says that their first priority should be to work on their
communication. How much time and money is that going to cost ?
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | 3 blade prop and 3 to 1 box. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
I got a KT IV 582 GSC 68 3 blader c boc No PRoblems
Idles smooth over 2200 rpm but will idle 1800 with a bit of shake
works Excellent 1300 fpm solo min 1000 fpm dual
crusie 5800 93 mph
Shorty,
thanks for your posting. What ratio is your box ?
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Re: 3 blade prop and 3 to 1 box. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
3 to 1 box
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: 3 blade prop and 3 to 1 box.
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
>
> I got a KT IV 582 GSC 68 3 blader c boc No PRoblems
> Idles smooth over 2200 rpm but will idle 1800 with a bit of shake
> works Excellent 1300 fpm solo min 1000 fpm dual
> crusie 5800 93 mph
>
> Shorty,
> thanks for your posting. What ratio is your box ?
>
> Rex.
> rexjan@bigpond.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
Rex,
Well said !!
I came from the School ** The customer comed first **
When you stop thinking that way and catering to your customers -they will
stop coming.
I also wish Skystar great success , They have excellent Products just lack
in communication.
question is why do they lack communication ? Especially from the 100 %
PAID customers.
I agree with you Rex -- Do not pay upfront as if they became chap11.com
guess who gets nothing ? The guy who sent his cash.
Not trying to scare anyone away but be careful.
Shorty
PS KF IV on skis today a few hours flying in.
Had to impress someone so i pull the tail up to the hangar door
20 D flaps WOT on skis
7 knot wind off in under 75'
temp about 32 F
PURFECT !!
:)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Skystar
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
>
> The very first priority of any company is to communicate and sell. I see a
> pattern of Skystar not tending to business. I know they are running on a
> skeleton staff and I sympathize, but I only hear complaints anymore, where
> we used to only hear praise.
>
> I couldn't agree more. I'm sure none of us want to see them fold but like
> things are going they appear to be heading that way in my opinion. I think
> the danger is if they collect all this money so far ahead and they fold or
> something then customers are likely to loose.
> I would suggest that in both parties interest the money should be held in
a
> trust account not by Skystar. I think it's a reasonable conclusion that
they
> would be currently using this money paid up ahead for materials and
labour.
> That's fine up to a point, but when this money might be at risk it needs
to
> be held in a trust account. A variation might be part paid up and part in
> the trust account. Skystar could possibly get a more favourable overdraft
> rate against the trust account anyway than without it. I realise they do
> also need some security on the order and a trust account does that for
both
> sides.
> We can't tell Skystar what to do but a customer ordering a kit can
> negotiate a trust account deal and this might be prudent.
> When the money is collected so far ahead it suggests to me that ones money
> is not even being used on ones own kit but on someone elses further up the
> line.
> Mind you I do wish Skystar success. I see them as an important part of all
> the kitfox flyers. Negative talk like this may not be helping them but one
> must protect ones interests. If Skystar want to help themselves I would
> suggest as Don says that their first priority should be to work on their
> communication. How much time and money is that going to cost ?
>
> Rex.
> rexjan@bigpond.com
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Tom A,
When I last asked I thought you said you were using the 2:12:1 gears not
1:94:1 as indicated in the recent magazine article. Has something changed. I
was just about to put a set of the 2:12:1 in since the 1:94s seem to load
even the turbo engine down to much. My original thinking was to get close to
the .88 mach number or 2650 blade RPM as suggested by Warp Drive. However
16.5 degrees at that RPM does not appear attainable. I had better
performance with the 2:34:1 gears.
Rick
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