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1. 02:05 AM - Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? (kurt schrader)
2. 04:50 AM - Re: Skystar Analysis (bob)
3. 06:20 AM - Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? (DPREMGOOD@aol.com)
4. 06:36 AM - Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? (shortnaked)
5. 06:48 AM - Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? (DPREMGOOD@aol.com)
6. 07:04 AM - Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? (shortnaked)
7. 07:43 AM - List messages (Lowell Fitt)
8. 07:56 AM - Re: List messages (Don Pearsall)
9. 07:56 AM - Re: List messages (shortnaked)
10. 08:10 AM - Carb. settings (Dee Young)
11. 08:16 AM - From Frank Miller at SkyStar (Don Pearsall)
12. 08:20 AM - Re: List messages (Steve Zakreski)
13. 08:39 AM - Re: From Frank Miller at SkyStar (shortnaked)
14. 08:47 AM - Re: From Frank Miller at SkyStar (customtrans@qwest.net)
15. 08:57 AM - Re: From Frank Miller at SkyStar (Steve Zakreski)
16. 09:02 AM - Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? (DPREMGOOD@aol.com)
17. 09:06 AM - Flying on skis (Gary Algate)
18. 09:50 AM - Re: List messages (Matt Dralle)
19. 10:02 AM - Re: From Frank Miller at SkyStar (Harris, Robert)
20. 10:11 AM - Re: From Frank Miller at SkyStar (Aerobatics@aol.com)
21. 01:32 PM - Re: From Frank Miller at SkyStar (Rockitfox@aol.com)
22. 03:06 PM - Central FL Kitfoxes (Eric Huppert)
23. 03:19 PM - LSA clarification (Clem Nichols)
24. 04:54 PM - Off-topic: Browsers (was: Engine ram air intake) (Michael Gibbs)
25. 05:46 PM - Oil Change on 912 (Jimmie Blackwell)
26. 08:38 PM - Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? (John King)
27. 11:00 PM - Kitfox 4 Throttle (Guy Buchanan)
28. 11:06 PM - Kitfox Electrical (Guy Buchanan)
29. 11:16 PM - Kitfox Squadron (Jimmie Blackwell)
30. 11:36 PM - Re: LSA clarification (Steve Cooper)
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I could have used them last night. Mounted my trusty
767 at 3:45 in the afternoon. Eleven hours later I
got out of it not having moved an inch. Sleet, ice
pellets, rain and snow in Louisville. Not much
flying, but I had a great time driving home. Helps to
be a "nordener".
The people having the most fun were those guys driving
"zero turn radius" lawnmowers with cabs and snow plows
at the airport. It was like bumper-cars doing snow
removal. That was our entertainment, since we
couldn't fly.
Kurt S.
Do not archive.
--- shortnaked <shortnaked@golden.net> wrote:
> Well
>
> Looks like we back to normal
>
>
> Anyone fFlying on skis yet?
>
>
> calling for 10 to 12 inches here tonight maybe fly
> by xmas day lol
>
> Shorty
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| Subject: | Re: Skystar Analysis |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "bob" <grumps@megalink.net>
DON THE REASON THEY DON"T MAKE IT IS THEY DON"T COME CLEAN THEY LIE (FRANK)
TELL THE THRUTH AND CUSTOMERS WILL HANG BY YOU!!!!!!!! BOB (grumps)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Skystar Analysis
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
> <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
> Very good analysis, Rich. I cannot find anything there that is not 100%
> accurate.
>
> For those with long memories, Skystar started on a shoestring, and now
> they
> are hanging on to a shoestring. They have been through good and bad times.
> A
> lot of good money has been thrown at Skystar trying to make it into
> another
> Van's. It has not worked so far, for a number of reasons.
>
> Previous owner Phil Reed once took me aside and told me the secret to
> making
> a million dollars in the kitplane business. "You know how to make a
> million
> dollars in the Kitplane business? Start out with 5 million dollars."
>
>
> Don Pearsall
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: DPREMGOOD@aol.com
I strapped the skis on my J3 Kitten last week and went for a ride.
My biggest problem was getting hangar doors open. The spikes that hold the
doors in place were frozen into the ground. After pouring hot water down into
the holes, I was able to free up the spikes and open the doors. (a good 45
minutes lost there).
The taxi tests went really well. The tail ski is fully castoring and allows
for some rather tight turns. (with the proper application of power, elevator
and rudder, of course)
The first takeoff was less spectacular than on wheels, because of the
increased drag of the skis.
I made my first circuit, landed, Inspected the skis, and then practiced a few
touch and gos before calling it a day. (I'm still smiling)
The lakes have not yet completely frozen over. It's only a matter of time...
Wishing everyone on the list a Merry Christmas and a happy and safe holiday
season.
Doug Remoundos
Classic IV (Ready for paint this summer)
Montreal, Canada
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
Doug nice chunk of snow today i bet for you , We got near 10 inches here
near London.
drifting heavy now too , quite the storm ........
I do not have a fully castering tail ski ( my bungees stop the full
travel)
which makes the turns a bit tougher until you give power and lift the
tail and kick rudder .
but who needs to turn with this much snow ? just point and go lol
Shorty
----- Original Message -----
From: <DPREMGOOD@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Anyone Flying on skis yet ?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: DPREMGOOD@aol.com
>
> I strapped the skis on my J3 Kitten last week and went for a ride.
>
> My biggest problem was getting hangar doors open. The spikes that hold the
> doors in place were frozen into the ground. After pouring hot water down
into
> the holes, I was able to free up the spikes and open the doors. (a good 45
> minutes lost there).
>
> The taxi tests went really well. The tail ski is fully castoring and
allows
> for some rather tight turns. (with the proper application of power,
elevator
> and rudder, of course)
>
> The first takeoff was less spectacular than on wheels, because of the
> increased drag of the skis.
>
> I made my first circuit, landed, Inspected the skis, and then practiced a
few
> touch and gos before calling it a day. (I'm still smiling)
>
> The lakes have not yet completely frozen over. It's only a matter of
time...
>
> Wishing everyone on the list a Merry Christmas and a happy and safe
holiday
> season.
>
> Doug Remoundos
> Classic IV (Ready for paint this summer)
> Montreal, Canada
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: DPREMGOOD@aol.com
Shorty,
It's not too bad here, we got about 5 inches and now we're into the freezing
rain. Looks like Friday we'll be into the clear and -17C.
Hopefully, we will get more snow to cover the ice.
One thing I did notice with the full castoring tail is that I need a good
bootful of opposite rudder (and power) to get the tail ski straight again.
Cheers,
Doug Remoundos
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
Doug
Where do you have your bungees atttach on Tail ski to allow it to fullly
caster ?
btw we got about 5 cm a hour here now
almost 11 to 12 " now
look what is coming your way
http://www.flightplanning.navcanada.ca/Latest/anglais/Latest-composite-ont-cappi-e.html
----- Original Message -----
From: <DPREMGOOD@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Anyone Flying on skis yet ?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: DPREMGOOD@aol.com
>
> Shorty,
>
> It's not too bad here, we got about 5 inches and now we're into the
freezing
> rain. Looks like Friday we'll be into the clear and -17C.
> Hopefully, we will get more snow to cover the ice.
>
> One thing I did notice with the full castoring tail is that I need a good
> bootful of opposite rudder (and power) to get the tail ski straight again.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Doug Remoundos
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
This morning - after not checking the list since Wed morning - I got three e-mails,
one from the list posted by the little guy that can't afford clothes, one
from the Apple Store and one from my wife's brother. I rarely see my own posts
to the list lately also.
If there was more list traffic than that, could someone e-mail me direct - lcfitt@inreach.com
- so I can begin worrying about one more thing.
Merry Christmas to all.
Lowell
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Lowell,
As of this writing at 7:52 pacific time, there were 6 messages on the KF
list since midnight. Check the archives at
http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list.
It must be your ISP missing the messages, because if there were something
wrong with your subscription, you would not get ANY messages.
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Subject: Kitfox-List: List messages
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
This morning - after not checking the list since Wed morning - I got three
e-mails, one from the list posted by the little guy that can't afford
clothes, one from the Apple Store and one from my wife's brother. I rarely
see my own posts to the list lately also.
If there was more list traffic than that, could someone e-mail me direct -
lcfitt@inreach.com - so I can begin worrying about one more thing.
Merry Christmas to all.
Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: List messages |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
Lowell
I just forwarded you 4 emails from last few hours
Hope you get em all :)
Shorty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: List messages
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> This morning - after not checking the list since Wed morning - I got three
e-mails, one from the list posted by the little guy that can't afford
clothes, one from the Apple Store and one from my wife's brother. I rarely
see my own posts to the list lately also.
>
> If there was more list traffic than that, could someone e-mail me direct -
lcfitt@inreach.com - so I can begin worrying about one more thing.
>
> Merry Christmas to all.
>
> Lowell
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Posted this a couple of days back but did not see a reply. Have a friend who
is flying out of 5,000' air strip and woulld like some help on the jetting
for the 582. He is running a 210 but that seems high compared to what I read
and it should be around 170. Can one of you guys help me out on this a
little Please.
Thanks
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | From Frank Miller at SkyStar |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Verbatim message from Frank Miller, President of Skystar. If you want to
respond, please do so with facts, not accusations.
_____
From: Frank Miller [mailto:frankm@skystar.com]
Subject: SkyStar
Normally, I will not post a response when issues about SkyStar come up. This
site is dedicated to helping builders in the construction and flying of
their aircraft.
It is a wonderful site and individuals using it should be thankful for the
wealth of information it gives. I am not going to debate each claim on this
site. Some are justified some are ridiculous. What I will do is bring those
interested up to speed on where SkyStar is.
In 2002 SkyStar got itself in a major financial crisis. A number of issues
lead up to it (uninsured Cessna crashed through our factory hanger, 911,
weak economy, delay of Sport Plane, special deep discount aircraft sales,
etc..), the bottom line is we were deep into the red. At that time approx 29
people were caught up with engines not delivered, accounts payable was very
high and some out over 180 days, IRS payroll taxes were out over 6 months.
Our option was 1: To follow in the footsteps of so many other aircraft
companies and put the company into bankruptcy or 2: Reorganize the company,
commit to delivering all product owed, and work our way out of it. The easy
way would have been bankruptcy, SkyStar elected not seek court protection,
principally because it would have left many builders stranded and customers
without support. A recovery plan was started and we made some heavy internal
adjustments. There where allot of skeletons in the closet and the engine
issue was alarming. Even though it only affects less than 1% of our current
customer base it was still ugly. We are currently down to approx 19 still
owed engines. We have been able to work down the accounts payable by paying
upfront plus a % to clear the dept. I have negotiated with the IRS and are
currently on a payment plan. We have been working with a number of investors
since 2002 but they all wanted the company to file bankruptcy. Currently the
individuals interested in investing are interested because of there love of
the product and not looking the scalp the company for a quick buck. The
investment capital will be the quickest way to fulfill the engine
obligation.This recovery process is taking longer than we would like, but we
have made and are continuing to make progress to this end. Over the past 2
years SkyStar has learned much from this crisis and has significantly
strengthened its core business.We appreciate the great support we have
received from many of our builders and pledge to continue our efforts to get
all the builders affected by the 2002 events current on their engines
deliveries as soon as possible.
I would agree that are customer service could use improvement. The internal
administration structure of the company was a dinosaur that does not
function well without a large support staff. In order to keep the company
alive for the past few years we have been working with a lean staff. They
are all good people working hard to turn the company around but have not had
the proper administration resources to do their job. This has affected
customer service. We are getting closer to having this resolved and hope to
be running a new internal processing structure by the first or second
quarter of 2005 which will greatly improve our service capability.
We need your support in making 2005 a good strong year for our customers and
SkyStar.
Frank Miller
President/CEO
SkyStar Aircraft Corp.
208-454-2444 frankm@skystar.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Actually Lowell, we were trying to sneak you off the list. ;-)
SteveZ
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Subject: Kitfox-List: List messages
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
This morning - after not checking the list since Wed morning - I got three
e-mails, one from the list posted by the little guy that can't afford
clothes, one from the Apple Store and one from my wife's brother. I rarely
see my own posts to the list lately also.
If there was more list traffic than that, could someone e-mail me direct -
lcfitt@inreach.com - so I can begin worrying about one more thing.
Merry Christmas to all.
Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: From Frank Miller at SkyStar |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
Very Good letter from Skystar
congrats Frank for doing that.
Now you say that you got your problems solved , get the buyers that have
paid you upfront catered too and delivered.
And Keep up the great work on a great plane.
And you will have a terrific company in the future.
Shorty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: From Frank Miller at SkyStar
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
<donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
> Verbatim message from Frank Miller, President of Skystar. If you want to
> respond, please do so with facts, not accusations.
> _____
>
> From: Frank Miller [mailto:frankm@skystar.com]
> To: donpearsall@comcast.net
> Subject: SkyStar
>
>
> Normally, I will not post a response when issues about SkyStar come up.
This
> site is dedicated to helping builders in the construction and flying of
> their aircraft.
> It is a wonderful site and individuals using it should be thankful for the
> wealth of information it gives. I am not going to debate each claim on
this
> site. Some are justified some are ridiculous. What I will do is bring
those
> interested up to speed on where SkyStar is.
>
> In 2002 SkyStar got itself in a major financial crisis. A number of issues
> lead up to it (uninsured Cessna crashed through our factory hanger, 911,
> weak economy, delay of Sport Plane, special deep discount aircraft sales,
> etc..), the bottom line is we were deep into the red. At that time approx
29
> people were caught up with engines not delivered, accounts payable was
very
> high and some out over 180 days, IRS payroll taxes were out over 6 months.
> Our option was 1: To follow in the footsteps of so many other aircraft
> companies and put the company into bankruptcy or 2: Reorganize the
company,
> commit to delivering all product owed, and work our way out of it. The
easy
> way would have been bankruptcy, SkyStar elected not seek court protection,
> principally because it would have left many builders stranded and
customers
> without support. A recovery plan was started and we made some heavy
internal
> adjustments. There where allot of skeletons in the closet and the engine
> issue was alarming. Even though it only affects less than 1% of our
current
> customer base it was still ugly. We are currently down to approx 19 still
> owed engines. We have been able to work down the accounts payable by
paying
> upfront plus a % to clear the dept. I have negotiated with the IRS and are
> currently on a payment plan. We have been working with a number of
investors
> since 2002 but they all wanted the company to file bankruptcy. Currently
the
> individuals interested in investing are interested because of there love
of
> the product and not looking the scalp the company for a quick buck. The
> investment capital will be the quickest way to fulfill the engine
> obligation.This recovery process is taking longer than we would like, but
we
> have made and are continuing to make progress to this end. Over the past 2
> years SkyStar has learned much from this crisis and has significantly
> strengthened its core business.We appreciate the great support we have
> received from many of our builders and pledge to continue our efforts to
get
> all the builders affected by the 2002 events current on their engines
> deliveries as soon as possible.
>
> I would agree that are customer service could use improvement. The
internal
> administration structure of the company was a dinosaur that does not
> function well without a large support staff. In order to keep the company
> alive for the past few years we have been working with a lean staff. They
> are all good people working hard to turn the company around but have not
had
> the proper administration resources to do their job. This has affected
> customer service. We are getting closer to having this resolved and hope
to
> be running a new internal processing structure by the first or second
> quarter of 2005 which will greatly improve our service capability.
>
> We need your support in making 2005 a good strong year for our customers
and
> SkyStar.
>
>
> Frank Miller
> President/CEO
> SkyStar Aircraft Corp.
> 208-454-2444 frankm@skystar.com
>
>
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| Subject: | From Frank Miller at SkyStar |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
I think it takes a lot of guts for Frank to write this. I believe him and
will continue to support the company. I haven't had any trouble with
Skystar and like I have said, ordered to date around 4500 dollars in the
last month or so the parts to rebuild my Fox. I've made several calls for
both information and follow up on parts and have to say Crystal, Dave, and
Frank have been very helpful.
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Pearsall
Subject: Kitfox-List: From Frank Miller at SkyStar
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Verbatim message from Frank Miller, President of Skystar. If you want to
respond, please do so with facts, not accusations.
_____
From: Frank Miller [mailto:frankm@skystar.com]
Subject: SkyStar
Normally, I will not post a response when issues about SkyStar come up. This
site is dedicated to helping builders in the construction and flying of
their aircraft.
It is a wonderful site and individuals using it should be thankful for the
wealth of information it gives. I am not going to debate each claim on this
site. Some are justified some are ridiculous. What I will do is bring those
interested up to speed on where SkyStar is.
In 2002 SkyStar got itself in a major financial crisis. A number of issues
lead up to it (uninsured Cessna crashed through our factory hanger, 911,
weak economy, delay of Sport Plane, special deep discount aircraft sales,
etc..), the bottom line is we were deep into the red. At that time approx 29
people were caught up with engines not delivered, accounts payable was very
high and some out over 180 days, IRS payroll taxes were out over 6 months.
Our option was 1: To follow in the footsteps of so many other aircraft
companies and put the company into bankruptcy or 2: Reorganize the company,
commit to delivering all product owed, and work our way out of it. The easy
way would have been bankruptcy, SkyStar elected not seek court protection,
principally because it would have left many builders stranded and customers
without support. A recovery plan was started and we made some heavy internal
adjustments. There where allot of skeletons in the closet and the engine
issue was alarming. Even though it only affects less than 1% of our current
customer base it was still ugly. We are currently down to approx 19 still
owed engines. We have been able to work down the accounts payable by paying
upfront plus a % to clear the dept. I have negotiated with the IRS and are
currently on a payment plan. We have been working with a number of investors
since 2002 but they all wanted the company to file bankruptcy. Currently the
individuals interested in investing are interested because of there love of
the product and not looking the scalp the company for a quick buck. The
investment capital will be the quickest way to fulfill the engine
obligation.This recovery process is taking longer than we would like, but we
have made and are continuing to make progress to this end. Over the past 2
years SkyStar has learned much from this crisis and has significantly
strengthened its core business.We appreciate the great support we have
received from many of our builders and pledge to continue our efforts to get
all the builders affected by the 2002 events current on their engines
deliveries as soon as possible.
I would agree that are customer service could use improvement. The internal
administration structure of the company was a dinosaur that does not
function well without a large support staff. In order to keep the company
alive for the past few years we have been working with a lean staff. They
are all good people working hard to turn the company around but have not had
the proper administration resources to do their job. This has affected
customer service. We are getting closer to having this resolved and hope to
be running a new internal processing structure by the first or second
quarter of 2005 which will greatly improve our service capability.
We need your support in making 2005 a good strong year for our customers and
SkyStar.
Frank Miller
President/CEO
SkyStar Aircraft Corp.
208-454-2444 frankm@skystar.com
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| Subject: | From Frank Miller at SkyStar |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Great letter from Frank. We all know what a great product the Kitfox
is...let's tell the world.
SteveZ
Calgary
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Pearsall
Subject: Kitfox-List: From Frank Miller at SkyStar
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Verbatim message from Frank Miller, President of Skystar. If you want to
respond, please do so with facts, not accusations.
_____
From: Frank Miller [mailto:frankm@skystar.com]
Subject: SkyStar
Normally, I will not post a response when issues about SkyStar come up. This
site is dedicated to helping builders in the construction and flying of
their aircraft.
It is a wonderful site and individuals using it should be thankful for the
wealth of information it gives. I am not going to debate each claim on this
site. Some are justified some are ridiculous. What I will do is bring those
interested up to speed on where SkyStar is.
In 2002 SkyStar got itself in a major financial crisis. A number of issues
lead up to it (uninsured Cessna crashed through our factory hanger, 911,
weak economy, delay of Sport Plane, special deep discount aircraft sales,
etc..), the bottom line is we were deep into the red. At that time approx 29
people were caught up with engines not delivered, accounts payable was very
high and some out over 180 days, IRS payroll taxes were out over 6 months.
Our option was 1: To follow in the footsteps of so many other aircraft
companies and put the company into bankruptcy or 2: Reorganize the company,
commit to delivering all product owed, and work our way out of it. The easy
way would have been bankruptcy, SkyStar elected not seek court protection,
principally because it would have left many builders stranded and customers
without support. A recovery plan was started and we made some heavy internal
adjustments. There where allot of skeletons in the closet and the engine
issue was alarming. Even though it only affects less than 1% of our current
customer base it was still ugly. We are currently down to approx 19 still
owed engines. We have been able to work down the accounts payable by paying
upfront plus a % to clear the dept. I have negotiated with the IRS and are
currently on a payment plan. We have been working with a number of investors
since 2002 but they all wanted the company to file bankruptcy. Currently the
individuals interested in investing are interested because of there love of
the product and not looking the scalp the company for a quick buck. The
investment capital will be the quickest way to fulfill the engine
obligation.This recovery process is taking longer than we would like, but we
have made and are continuing to make progress to this end. Over the past 2
years SkyStar has learned much from this crisis and has significantly
strengthened its core business.We appreciate the great support we have
received from many of our builders and pledge to continue our efforts to get
all the builders affected by the 2002 events current on their engines
deliveries as soon as possible.
I would agree that are customer service could use improvement. The internal
administration structure of the company was a dinosaur that does not
function well without a large support staff. In order to keep the company
alive for the past few years we have been working with a lean staff. They
are all good people working hard to turn the company around but have not had
the proper administration resources to do their job. This has affected
customer service. We are getting closer to having this resolved and hope to
be running a new internal processing structure by the first or second
quarter of 2005 which will greatly improve our service capability.
We need your support in making 2005 a good strong year for our customers and
SkyStar.
Frank Miller
President/CEO
SkyStar Aircraft Corp.
208-454-2444 frankm@skystar.com
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: DPREMGOOD@aol.com
Bungees?? What Bungees???
Just kidding :-)
I have one bungee plus the safety wire attached to a fitting where the
tailwheel bolt attaches to the tail spring. It is about 1.5 inches forward of the
pivot point.
Doug
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
I have been on skis for two weeks now but only managed to get a couple of
flights in due to weather and business commitments.
I certainly love winter flying especially in deep snow - when I was landing
for the first time this year on skis it was overcast and difficult to pick
up any visual definition.
I was "feeling" for the runway and then looked at my airspeed and it was
down to 30mph. I remember thinking if I hadn't touched down yet I was in for
an awful bump.
I didn't even feel the touchdown????
GaryA
Lite2/582
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shortnaked
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: No Gratuitous Skystar Bashing Please.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
Well
Looks like we back to normal
Anyone Flying on skis yet ?
calling for 10 to 12 inches here tonight maybe fly by xmas day lol
Shorty
----- Original Message -----
From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: No Gratuitous Skystar Bashing Please.
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 12/22/04 7:55:55 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> morid@northland.lib.mi.us writes:
>
> <<
> Chill Bob. These types of outburst aren't helping anybody with anything
>>
>
>
> Thanks Darrel, I was getting a headache............
> Do Not Archive
>
> Don Smythe
> N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
This sounds suspiciously like you might have your Spam filter turned up a
little to far. I've heard of a number of people getting List messages
filtered by various ISP's spam filter programs. If you or your ISP have
spam filters, you should configured them to accept all messages from
"matronics.com".
Matt
At 08:20 AM 12/23/2004 Thursday, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
>Actually Lowell, we were trying to sneak you off the list. ;-)
>
>SteveZ
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: List messages
>
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
>This morning - after not checking the list since Wed morning - I got three
>e-mails, one from the list posted by the little guy that can't afford
>clothes, one from the Apple Store and one from my wife's brother. I rarely
>see my own posts to the list lately also.
>
>If there was more list traffic than that, could someone e-mail me direct -
>lcfitt@inreach.com - so I can begin worrying about one more thing.
>
>Merry Christmas to all.
>
>Lowell
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | From Frank Miller at SkyStar |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Thanks Don,
I support Skystar and really appreciate Frank's e-mail. I'm very thankful
for all of their help, dedication and passion to the aviation industry. They
continue to bring much joy and happiness to thousands of people every year.
Don, I'd also like to thank you for all of your time and dedication to the
Kitfox community.
Robert
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| Subject: | Re: From Frank Miller at SkyStar |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com
Well said and seemed needed....
We have a small company and understand....
They may, or may not succeed, but we can all agree, we are better off with
them, than with out them.
It must be very difficult to work for a company that is on the edge when you
have a family and responsibilties. The employees that are still there need
us, as we need them.
I wish them the very best and of course, the customers that have been so
patient.
Merry Chistmas to all.
Dave
Flying an nice old KF2 582 :-)
I always thought they should come out with a cheap, simple, 503/582 again
which kick started Denny...... possible a fast build?
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| Subject: | Re: From Frank Miller at SkyStar |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rockitfox@aol.com
Well said Frank, Thankyou. Thanks for posting Don.
Skystar will continue to receive my business and support. They can help me
more than I can help them.
Rocky Ruksnaitis
Series 5 Still
Westminster, Ma.
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| Subject: | Central FL Kitfoxes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Eric Huppert <ehuppert2@yahoo.com>
Hi Folks,
It's been about 4 years since I was last lurking on the List...life has settled
down somewhat for me and I'm looking for some Central Florida Kitfoxes to fly
with. My Classic IV is based at Titusville and I live on Merritt Island. Anyone
out there close by that wants to meet up somewhere?
Merry Christmas to all!
Eric
N578T
First flight Feb 14th, 1996
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| Subject: | LSA clarification |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
For any of you group members who may not have seen this, I think it's worth passing
along, particularly since I've seen some postings regarding changing the
gross weight on a Model V Kitfox to conform with the Sport Plane regulations.
This was in answer to a question to the EAA about decreasing the gross weight
on a standard-type aircraft per the type certificate datasheet which only requires
a logbook endorsement like changing the prop. I quote:
"The definition of a light-sport aircraft requires that an aircraft be continuously
operated within the LSA definition. Any aircraft that has been altered so
as to fall outside the LSA designation, regardless of whether or not the alteration
is allowed by the type certificate, will not be eligible for operation
by sport pilots, even if returned to original specifications. Once the aircraft
is moved outside the LSA definition by any means, it is no longer eligible
for operation by sport pilots, period."
This may very well be worth noting by some group members who are considering passing
up their medical exam.
Yours, for what it's worth
(And thanks, Frank, for your comments about Skystar. Best of luck)
Clem Nichols
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| Subject: | Off-topic: Browsers (was: Engine ram air intake) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
>...I needed a newer browser. Well, my version of Internet Explorer
>is the latest for Macintosh. What can I do?
>... yes, dump my Mac and buy a Microsoft compatible PC. :-(
Michel,
You could try Safari, iCab, iSurf, Mozilla, OmniWeb, Opera, Camino,
or FireFox and see if any of them work better. Some of these may
require OS X.
Mike G.
N728KF
Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Oil Change on 912 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Hope to do an oil change on my 912 engine this weekend and planning to remove and
inspect the magnetic plug. Seems I recall something on the list awhile back
that this plug can be difficult to remove. So was wondering if any of you regularly
remove this plug and if there are any tricks to getting is out of the
engine block.
Thank you
Jimmie
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
Doug,
Pour pure antifreeze in the hanger pin holes so they won't freeze.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
DPREMGOOD@aol.com wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: DPREMGOOD@aol.com
>
>I strapped the skis on my J3 Kitten last week and went for a ride.
>
>My biggest problem was getting hangar doors open. The spikes that hold the
>doors in place were frozen into the ground. After pouring hot water down into
>the holes, I was able to free up the spikes and open the doors. (a good 45
>minutes lost there).
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Kitfox 4 Throttle |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Hi all!
I'm building a IV with a 582. Are people using the stock throttle
bellcrank? Or have you moved it? If stock, are your cables going through
the firewall above the horizontal tube or below? Do you use a spring to
offset the Bing carb springs? Do you use a friction or vernier throttle?
I'm thinking I want to switch from the vernier to a friction and then put a
spring on the throttle bellcrank so the throttle wants to stay where you
put it.
Thanks,
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Kitfox Electrical |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Hi all!
I'm finishing a Kitfox with a 582 and Bob's Z-17 electrical. The
question is where to put everything.
1. I searched the list and it seemed the consensus was to put the Rotax
264870 finned regulator on the engine side of the firewall, even though it
might suffer from the heat, to minimize the comm interference. Still true?
Any experience with it on the back side of the firewall?
2. What about the large filter cap? Since it's filtering noise I guess it
really wants to be forward of the firewall as well.
3. I need to mount a Sigtronics RES-401 intercom control box. Is this box
OK next to the regulator? Is it OK on the firewall? Or should I mount it to
the back of the instrument panel for some vibration isolation?
4. Is the overvoltage relay OK aft of the firewall? Or should I put it
forward as well to minimize noise?
Thanks for the help.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Howdy
I live in Taylor, Texas which is about 30 miles Northeast of Austin and was wondering
how many Kitfox cowboys and cowgirls we have in these parts. I know several
of you, Brian, Chuck and Dave. Hoping there might be others that would
me interested in forming a "Lone Star Squadron". Please let me hear from you.
Oklahoma folks are ok as long as we do not talk football.
Jimmie
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| Subject: | LSA clarification |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Great Post...BUT! ;) On the other side of the coin, there have been
modifications made to Standard Category Aircraft which DO make the aircraft
eligible for LSA. One that comes to mind is the modification to (I believe
it's and Aeronca(sp)?)This specific modification requires the 337 package
and increases Gross Weight a little past the LSA limit. It was my
understanding that the mod could be removed along with the appropriate log
book entries and return the bird to LSA and legally flown as a Sport Plane.
Am I wrong about this?
Steve Cooper
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clem Nichols
Subject: Kitfox-List: LSA clarification
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
For any of you group members who may not have seen this, I think it's worth
passing along, particularly since I've seen some postings regarding changing
the gross weight on a Model V Kitfox to conform with the Sport Plane
regulations. This was in answer to a question to the EAA about decreasing
the gross weight on a standard-type aircraft per the type certificate
datasheet which only requires a logbook endorsement like changing the prop.
I quote:
"The definition of a light-sport aircraft requires that an aircraft be
continuously operated within the LSA definition. Any aircraft that has been
altered so as to fall outside the LSA designation, regardless of whether or
not the alteration is allowed by the type certificate, will not be eligible
for operation by sport pilots, even if returned to original specifications.
Once the aircraft is moved outside the LSA definition by any means, it is
no longer eligible for operation by sport pilots, period."
This may very well be worth noting by some group members who are considering
passing up their medical exam.
Yours, for what it's worth
(And thanks, Frank, for your comments about Skystar. Best of luck)
Clem Nichols
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