Today's Message Index:
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1. 01:13 AM - Electrical and throttle (Michel Verheughe)
2. 04:17 AM - Re Frank Millers post (Rex & Jan Shaw)
3. 04:39 AM - Re: LSA clarification (Clem Nichols)
4. 05:13 AM - Subaru in Classic-gross weight (Ben Baltrusaitis)
5. 05:28 AM - Oops (Jim Gilliatt)
6. 05:28 AM - Re: Subaru in Classic-gross weight (Howard Firm)
7. 06:23 AM - Re: Oops (Michel Verheughe)
8. 06:25 AM - Re: Off-topic: Browsers (Michel Verheughe)
9. 06:50 AM - Re: Oops (Jim Gilliatt)
10. 07:13 AM - Re: Subaru in Classic-gross weight (Steve Zakreski)
11. 08:14 AM - Merry Christmas (jdmcbean)
12. 08:55 AM - Re: Electrical and throttle (Guy Buchanan)
13. 08:56 AM - Re: Oil Change on 912 (Lowell Fitt)
14. 09:40 AM - Re: LSA clarification (Steve Cooper)
15. 09:43 AM - Test, Ignore. (Matt Dralle)
16. 10:41 AM - Re: Kitfox 4 Throttle (customtrans@qwest.net)
17. 11:54 AM - Re: Electrical and throttle (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
18. 11:59 AM - Re: Kitfox 4 Throttle (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
19. 12:10 PM - Happy Holidays (Fred Shiple)
20. 12:22 PM - Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? (DPREMGOOD@aol.com)
21. 01:45 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (Jim Burke)
22. 02:24 PM - Re: Subaru in Classic-gross weight (Clem Nichols)
23. 02:31 PM - Thank-you Don and Deke, and all the rest of you. (Steve Zakreski)
24. 02:48 PM - Re: Thank-you Don and Deke, and all the rest of you. (skyflyte@comcast.net)
25. 02:54 PM - Re: Electrical and throttle (Michel Verheughe)
26. 03:06 PM - Re: Thank-you Don and Deke, and all the rest of you. (Don Pearsall)
27. 03:28 PM - Re: Thank-you Don and Deke, and all the rest of you. (Fox5flyer)
28. 07:50 PM - Re: Kitfox 4 Throttle (Guy Buchanan)
29. 07:50 PM - Re: Kitfox 4 Throttle (Guy Buchanan)
30. 07:50 PM - Re: Electrical and throttle (Guy Buchanan)
31. 07:50 PM - Re: Electrical and throttle (Guy Buchanan)
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| Subject: | Electrical and throttle |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Hello Guy,
> 1. I searched the list and it seemed the consensus was to put the Rotax
> 264870 finned regulator on the engine side of the firewall,
I think it was after my experience of removing the regulator from the cockpit to
the engine side of the firewall and getting a much better radio signal with
nearly no RFI. I can still recommend it. My regulator never had problems with
engine heat and I see that for the Jabiru, the regulator is in the engine room
as a standard configuration.
> 3. I need to mount a Sigtronics RES-401 intercom control box. Is this box
> OK next to the regulator?
I would avoid having any radio device near the regulator as it generates itself
a pulse when the magnetos reach above say, 14.2 volts. Before my modification,
I could hear in the headset when the regulator started switching on its pulse.
> Are people using the stock throttle bellcrank? <SNIP> Do you use a spring to
> offset the Bing carb springs? Do you use a friction or vernier throttle?
Yes, yes, and friction.
The spring was adjusted so that, if the handle failed, the spring would keep the
carburettor to half throttle opening.
I use the past tense because I am currently changing my 582 for a Jabiru. Incidently,
the old throttle bellcrank will match the Jabiru throttle's course.
Happy holidays,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re Frank Millers post |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Well I for one am staggered that Frank has come out and offered a full
explanation. As has been already said this takes a lot of guts. However I
hope that those that have been adversly affected by Skystars situation can
now have a bit more faith in them coming good. I'm sure this will be the
case while Skystar remains open and up front. I feel that having made an
explanation to the list we might all now try harder to support them. I think
they just earn't that. Dare I say it but of course Skystar must do the right
thing in return. Anyway lets hope all works out well for all concerned and a
Merry Christmas to everyone.
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Re: LSA clarification |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Steve:
If I'm interpreting this correctly, any plane which has ever been outside
the LSA limits, whether when coming from the factory or as the result of
logged modifications, cannot legally be flown by a sport pilot. The EAA
seemed pretty emphatic about this.
Clem Nichols
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: LSA clarification
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
>
> Great Post...BUT! ;) On the other side of the coin, there have been
> modifications made to Standard Category Aircraft which DO make the
> aircraft
> eligible for LSA. One that comes to mind is the modification to (I believe
> it's and Aeronca(sp)?)This specific modification requires the 337 package
> and increases Gross Weight a little past the LSA limit. It was my
> understanding that the mod could be removed along with the appropriate log
> book entries and return the bird to LSA and legally flown as a Sport
> Plane.
> Am I wrong about this?
>
> Steve Cooper
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clem Nichols
> To: kitfox list
> Subject: Kitfox-List: LSA clarification
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
>
> For any of you group members who may not have seen this, I think it's
> worth
> passing along, particularly since I've seen some postings regarding
> changing
> the gross weight on a Model V Kitfox to conform with the Sport Plane
> regulations. This was in answer to a question to the EAA about
> decreasing
> the gross weight on a standard-type aircraft per the type certificate
> datasheet which only requires a logbook endorsement like changing the
> prop.
> I quote:
>
> "The definition of a light-sport aircraft requires that an aircraft be
> continuously operated within the LSA definition. Any aircraft that has
> been
> altered so as to fall outside the LSA designation, regardless of whether
> or
> not the alteration is allowed by the type certificate, will not be
> eligible
> for operation by sport pilots, even if returned to original
> specifications.
> Once the aircraft is moved outside the LSA definition by any means, it is
> no longer eligible for operation by sport pilots, period."
>
> This may very well be worth noting by some group members who are
> considering
> passing up their medical exam.
>
> Yours, for what it's worth
> (And thanks, Frank, for your comments about Skystar. Best of luck)
>
> Clem Nichols
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| Subject: | Subaru in Classic-gross weight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net>
A Classic IV owner told me his NSI Subaru is too heavy for his plane. He said he
flies about 150 lbs over gross whenever he has a 200 lb adult with him. Empty
weight is about 830 according to memory.
Is this a common practice?
Is the Subaru on the heavy side for a good flying Classic?
Thanks!
Ben
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Gilliatt <jim.gilliatt@att.net>
Can someone send me a copy of Frank Miller's response. I,
unfortunately, deleted it
and wanted to send it to someone.
Thanks,
Jim Gilliatt
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru in Classic-gross weight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net>
>
> A Classic IV owner told me his NSI Subaru is too heavy for his plane. He
said he flies about 150 lbs over gross whenever he has a 200 lb adult with
him. Empty weight is about 830 according to memory.
> Is this a common practice?
> Is the Subaru on the heavy side for a good flying Classic?
> Thanks!
> Ben
>
For the -4 the NSI is a bit on the heavy side....Mine was 801 lbs empty...I
was often over gross....My -5 is a much better fit for the NSI engines...
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Jim Gilliatt wrote:
> Can someone send me a copy of Frank Miller's response.
I've send it to your private address, Jim.
Merry Christmas, Joyeux Noel, God Jul, Feliz Navidad
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Off-topic: Browsers |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Michael Gibbs wrote:
> You could try Safari, iCab, iSurf, Mozilla, OmniWeb, Opera, Camino,
> or FireFox and see if any of them work better. Some of these may
> require OS X.
Thanks Mike! I know there are other browsers but ... I am an old man and got
used to Netscape! :-)
Merry Christmas and get well soon,
Michel
PS: Actually Opera is a Norwegian software!
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Gilliatt <jim.gilliatt@att.net>
Thanks much Michel, and a very merry Christmas to you also.
Jim Gilliatt
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>Jim Gilliatt wrote:
>
>
>>Can someone send me a copy of Frank Miller's response.
>>
>>
>
>I've send it to your private address, Jim.
>
>Merry Christmas, Joyeux Noel, God Jul, Feliz Navidad
>
>Michel
>
>do not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Subaru in Classic-gross weight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
I have a Classic IV with the NSI. All his facts are correct. The aircraft
is a wonderfully flying aircraft and a very functional long distance
cruiser, but it is over the 1200 lb gross when flying with a passenger.
SteveZ
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ben
Baltrusaitis
Subject: Kitfox-List: Subaru in Classic-gross weight
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net>
A Classic IV owner told me his NSI Subaru is too heavy for his plane. He
said he flies about 150 lbs over gross whenever he has a 200 lb adult with
him. Empty weight is about 830 according to memory.
Is this a common practice?
Is the Subaru on the heavy side for a good flying Classic?
Thanks!
Ben
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Debra & I would like to wish everyone a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New
Year !!
Merry Christmas !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com <http://www.sportplanellc.com/>
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical and throttle |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 10:10 AM 12/24/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>Yes, yes, and friction.
>The spring was adjusted so that, if the handle failed, the spring would
>keep the carburettor to half throttle opening.
>I use the past tense because I am currently changing my 582 for a Jabiru.
>Incidently, the old throttle bellcrank will match the Jabiru throttle's course.
Michel, thanks so much for the useful response. With the throttle bellcrank
where it was supplied by Kitfox, and the cables routed forward under the
horizontal frame tube, there's very little clearance between the throttle
cables and the brakes, so that to apply the brakes I have to run my toes
against the cables. Is that your experience? Or did you route the cables
elsewhere?
Thanks again and Happy Holidays,
Guy
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Change on 912 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Jimmie - not a problem. It takes a metric hex wrench. It will loosen with
a pop.
I do it each oil change.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Oil Change on 912
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
<jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
> Hope to do an oil change on my 912 engine this weekend and planning to
remove and inspect the magnetic plug. Seems I recall something on the list
awhile back that this plug can be difficult to remove. So was wondering if
any of you regularly remove this plug and if there are any tricks to getting
is out of the engine block.
>
> Thank you
>
> Jimmie
>
>
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| Subject: | LSA clarification |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Ya, I'm sure you're right Clem. Some of the other lists have been buzzing
with information regarding certain "waivers" which may become available as
this thing gets rolling...but I think your right about the medical...you
still don't want to fail one or your stuck with the task of persueing a
special issuance in order to get back on the Sport Pilot band wagon.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clem Nichols
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: LSA clarification
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Steve:
If I'm interpreting this correctly, any plane which has ever been outside
the LSA limits, whether when coming from the factory or as the result of
logged modifications, cannot legally be flown by a sport pilot. The EAA
seemed pretty emphatic about this.
Clem Nichols
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: LSA clarification
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
>
> Great Post...BUT! ;) On the other side of the coin, there have been
> modifications made to Standard Category Aircraft which DO make the
> aircraft
> eligible for LSA. One that comes to mind is the modification to (I believe
> it's and Aeronca(sp)?)This specific modification requires the 337 package
> and increases Gross Weight a little past the LSA limit. It was my
> understanding that the mod could be removed along with the appropriate log
> book entries and return the bird to LSA and legally flown as a Sport
> Plane.
> Am I wrong about this?
>
> Steve Cooper
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clem Nichols
> To: kitfox list
> Subject: Kitfox-List: LSA clarification
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
>
> For any of you group members who may not have seen this, I think it's
> worth
> passing along, particularly since I've seen some postings regarding
> changing
> the gross weight on a Model V Kitfox to conform with the Sport Plane
> regulations. This was in answer to a question to the EAA about
> decreasing
> the gross weight on a standard-type aircraft per the type certificate
> datasheet which only requires a logbook endorsement like changing the
> prop.
> I quote:
>
> "The definition of a light-sport aircraft requires that an aircraft be
> continuously operated within the LSA definition. Any aircraft that has
> been
> altered so as to fall outside the LSA designation, regardless of whether
> or
> not the alteration is allowed by the type certificate, will not be
> eligible
> for operation by sport pilots, even if returned to original
> specifications.
> Once the aircraft is moved outside the LSA definition by any means, it is
> no longer eligible for operation by sport pilots, period."
>
> This may very well be worth noting by some group members who are
> considering
> passing up their medical exam.
>
> Yours, for what it's worth
> (And thanks, Frank, for your comments about Skystar. Best of luck)
>
> Clem Nichols
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Testing.
Matt
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | Kitfox 4 Throttle |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
Guy,
I have the 912ul in the 4, when I bought the plane it had the vernier
throttle and I hated it. All I did was install the friction and haven't had
any issues with the springs. Hope this helps. I have the original bell
crank, I guess you call it, throttle linkage, old style.
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 4 Throttle
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Hi all!
I'm building a IV with a 582. Are people using the stock throttle
bellcrank? Or have you moved it? If stock, are your cables going through
the firewall above the horizontal tube or below? Do you use a spring to
offset the Bing carb springs? Do you use a friction or vernier throttle?
I'm thinking I want to switch from the vernier to a friction and then put a
spring on the throttle bellcrank so the throttle wants to stay where you
put it.
Thanks,
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical and throttle |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 12/24/04 8:55:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, bnn@nethere.com
writes:
<< horizontal frame tube, there's very little clearance between the throttle
cables and the brakes, so that to apply the brakes I have to run my toes
against the cables. Is that your experience? Or did you route the cables
elsewhere?
Thanks again and Happy Holidays,
Guy
>>
Guy,
I routed my cables where they naturally wanted to go and yes, my toe
rubbed the cables. On my first taxi, I actually pushed one of the cables out of
the cluster with my right toe. To fix the situation, I fabricated a 90 degree
toe guard that mounted on top of the right pedal. This will keep my toe from
pushing up too high and contacting the cables. BTW, I only wear a size 7 1/2
or 8 shoe. I bet people with size 12 have a real problem.
Merry Christmas to all
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 4 Throttle |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 12/24/04 10:41:51 AM Pacific Standard Time,
customtrans@qwest.net writes:
<< I have the 912ul in the 4, when I bought the plane it had the vernier
throttle and I hated it. All I did was install the friction and haven't had
any issues with the springs. Hope this helps. I have the original bell
crank, I guess you call it, throttle linkage, old style.
>>
Guy,
On the 582, I prefer the vernier type throttle since the 2 stroke sometimes
takes very small inputs and twisting seems to work well for those small inputs.
As far as the springs go, the throttle is hard to push when the engine is
NOT running. With the engine running, a lot of the push/pull friction goes
away. Has something to do with the air rushing through the intake. Don't know
if
this is what you were referring to in your question.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
Season's best and Happy Holidays to everyone!
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Flying on skis yet ? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: DPREMGOOD@aol.com
Thanks John,
I approached the owner of the hangar with that suggestion but he was opposed
to the idea.
The hot water worked well though.
Have a Merry Christmas.
Doug
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
Happy Holidays to all on the list, From the Burke House.
Jim Burke (N94JE)
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru in Classic-gross weight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Ben:
I don't know if this is a "common practice" or not, but my Model IV 1200
with the NSI EA 81 at an empty weight of about 820 pounds is functionally a
single-seater when I have full fuel on board. In my opinion, the setup is
too heavy for the plane. I had to add a 5 pound weight to the tail-wheel in
order to get the nose up sufficiently for a decent 3-point landing. I
suppose the engine is OK in a Model V or above with the additional gross
weight, but if I were going to put an engine in a Model IV 1200 I would
certainly use a lighter setup, eg the Rotax 912S or perhaps the Jabiru 2200.
Apparently several members of the group are using the 582 with performance
as good as or better than I'm getting with the Subaru. I would like very
much to go to a cockpit adjustable prop in place of my current Warp drive,
but I simply cannot stand an extra 10 pounds on the nose of my plane. I
guess the bottom line is, if you're comfortable with a 2-stroker, go with a
582. If not, then consider the Jabiru 2200 or a Rotax 912 model. There
are, no doubt, others in the group who will disagree with me. I'm very
interested in hearing what they have to say.
Clem Nichols
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Subaru in Classic-gross weight
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net>
>
> A Classic IV owner told me his NSI Subaru is too heavy for his plane. He
> said he flies about 150 lbs over gross whenever he has a 200 lb adult with
> him. Empty weight is about 830 according to memory.
> Is this a common practice?
> Is the Subaru on the heavy side for a good flying Classic?
> Thanks!
> Ben
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| Subject: | Thank-you Don and Deke, and all the rest of you. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
It coming up to Christmas again (we celebrate tonight), and once again I am
thinking about how much enjoyment I get from this little list of ours. The
first thing I have done almost every morning for 8 years is make a coffee
and then log onto this list. We have a wonderful thing going for us here.
Don and Darrel (Deke), thank you again for the absolutely outstanding job
you both do managing this list. You guys are each a class act and we are
lucky to have you.
Thank you all, and may you all have a truly wonderful Christmas. If any of
you are celebrating alone, a very special and personal wish for a wonderful
Christmas to you.
SteveZ
Calgary
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| Subject: | Re: Thank-you Don and Deke, and all the rest of you. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: skyflyte@comcast.net
My feelings exactly! A great group, flying the best plane in its class. Merry
Christmas Everyone!
Mike
Model II, N490MC, flying since '91, wow!
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski
>
> It coming up to Christmas again (we celebrate tonight), and once again I am
> thinking about how much enjoyment I get from this little list of ours.
My feelings exactly! A great group, flying the best plane in its class. Merry Christmas
Everyone!
Mike
Model II, N490MC, flying since '91, wow!
-------------- Original message --------------
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <SZAKRESKI@SHAW.CA>
It coming up to Christmas again (we celebrate tonight), and once again I am
thinking about how much enjoyment I get from this little list of ours.
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical and throttle |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Guy Buchanan wrote:
> With the throttle bellcrank
> where it was supplied by Kitfox, and the cables routed forward under the
> horizontal frame tube, there's very little clearance between the throttle
> cables and the brakes, so that to apply the brakes I have to run my toes
> against the cables. Is that your experience? Or did you route the cables
> elsewhere?
I know exactly what you mean, Guy, because, as I am installing the throttle
cable of the Jabiru at this moment, I have the same problem.
The twin throttle cables that was on my 582, were going through the firewall
above the sloped part of the firewall, well above what your feet can reach. But
the Jabiru single throttle cable is thicker and doesn't bend as easily and I am
now considering making a new hole, lower than the previous one. My concern is
also: will it get in my feet when I fly? I don't want to take that chance. It
looks like it could work (the cable move which somewhat a resistance, but not
too much) with the present hole. I think I'll do my first test flights like
this and change if it feels too stiff later on.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Thank-you Don and Deke, and all the rest of you. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Thank you all for the thank you-s! It is a pleasure to be helping with the
list, but without the 400 or so of you members, it would be a pretty lonely
job. Everyone contributes to the list.
But in your thanks, don't forget that Matt Dralle is making the bandwidth
available for us. He does a LOT to make sure we all get our messages with
our morning coffee.
Happy Holidays everyone.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
skyflyte@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Thank-you Don and Deke, and all the rest of you.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: skyflyte@comcast.net
My feelings exactly! A great group, flying the best plane in its class.
Merry Christmas Everyone!
Mike
Model II, N490MC, flying since '91, wow!
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski
>
> It coming up to Christmas again (we celebrate tonight), and once again I
am
> thinking about how much enjoyment I get from this little list of ours.
My feelings exactly! A great group, flying the best plane in its class.
Merry Christmas Everyone!
Mike
Model II, N490MC, flying since '91, wow!
-------------- Original message --------------
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <SZAKRESKI@SHAW.CA>
It coming up to Christmas again (we celebrate tonight), and once again I am
thinking about how much enjoyment I get from this little list of ours.
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| Subject: | Re: Thank-you Don and Deke, and all the rest of you. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Steve, thanks much for the kind words. That's what keeps us going and makes
it all worth while.
Everybody have a great holiday season and like Steve says, keep making that
cup of coffee and logging on. Every day is a new adventure and I'm
completely addicted to it.
Darrel (Deke)
Snowed in and airplane down for annual
3f in NE Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Zakreski" <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Thank-you Don and Deke, and all the rest of you.
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
> It coming up to Christmas again (we celebrate tonight), and once again I
am
> thinking about how much enjoyment I get from this little list of ours.
The
> first thing I have done almost every morning for 8 years is make a coffee
> and then log onto this list. We have a wonderful thing going for us here.
>
> Don and Darrel (Deke), thank you again for the absolutely outstanding job
> you both do managing this list. You guys are each a class act and we are
> lucky to have you.
>
> Thank you all, and may you all have a truly wonderful Christmas. If any of
> you are celebrating alone, a very special and personal wish for a
wonderful
> Christmas to you.
>
> SteveZ
> Calgary
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 4 Throttle |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 02:58 PM 12/24/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Guy,
>On the 582, I prefer the vernier type throttle since the 2 stroke sometimes
>takes very small inputs and twisting seems to work well for those small
>inputs.
> As far as the springs go, the throttle is hard to push when the engine is
>NOT running. With the engine running, a lot of the push/pull friction goes
>away. Has something to do with the air rushing through the intake. Don't
>know if
>this is what you were referring to in your question.
>
>Don Smythe
>N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
Thanks again Don. This is interesting. Since the spring is probably easy to
attach I'll wait until I'm operational to try it. Otherwise it sounds like
I'll end up with much too large of a spring.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Kitfox 4 Throttle |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Thanks Steve.
At 10:41 AM 12/24/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
>
>Guy,
>I have the 912ul in the 4, when I bought the plane it had the vernier
>throttle and I hated it. All I did was install the friction and haven't had
>any issues with the springs. Hope this helps. I have the original bell
>crank, I guess you call it, throttle linkage, old style.
>
>steve a
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical and throttle |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 11:49 PM 12/24/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>The twin throttle cables that was on my 582, were going through the firewall
>above the sloped part of the firewall, well above what your feet can reach...
>
>Cheers,
>Michel
Thanks Michel. I'm thinking this is the safe way to go. I'm glad to hear
someone did it and didn't feel like they had too much resistance in at
least the twin throttle. I've got three cables so I guess I'll have 50%
more resistance, but it sounds like it's worth a try. Anyway, I don't like
the thought of flying a tail-dragger where your toes can get hung up just
when you need some rudder or brake. (I.e. on the rollout.)
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical and throttle |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Yep. I've got 10 1/2 and I have a little problem. However I do like the
idea of guarding the cables. Maybe I'll put a permanent guard around them.
Thanks Don. Have a very merry Christmas!
At 02:53 PM 12/24/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Guy,
> I routed my cables where they naturally wanted to go and yes, my toe
>rubbed the cables. On my first taxi, I actually pushed one of the cables
>out of
>the cluster with my right toe. To fix the situation, I fabricated a 90
>degree
>toe guard that mounted on top of the right pedal. This will keep my toe from
>pushing up too high and contacting the cables. BTW, I only wear a size 7 1/2
>or 8 shoe. I bet people with size 12 have a real problem.
>
>Merry Christmas to all
>Don Smythe
>N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar.
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