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1. 12:24 AM - Technical Article from Sport Aviation (Clint Bazzill)
2. 03:07 AM - Re: List Tone (KITFOXZ@aol.com)
3. 04:46 AM - Re: List Tone (Michel Verheughe)
4. 06:03 AM - Re: Engine choices/ Read the story (Howard Firm)
5. 06:33 AM - (Michel Gordillo)
6. 07:12 AM - Re: Engine choices/ Read the story (Cudnohufsky's)
7. 07:41 AM - Re: Engine choices/ Read the story (Clifford Begnaud)
8. 08:20 AM - Re: Engine choices/ Read the story (Clint Bazzill)
9. 08:29 AM - Re: Engine choices/ Read the story (customtrans@qwest.net)
10. 08:44 AM - New tone (roncarolnikko@webtv.net (Ron Schick))
11. 10:12 AM - Re: Engine choices/ Read the story (Clint Bazzill)
12. 10:29 AM - Re: Engine choices/ Read the story (Clifford Begnaud)
13. 11:24 AM - Re: Engine choices/ Read the story (customtrans@qwest.net)
14. 12:02 PM - Re: Engine choices/ Read the story (Clifford Begnaud)
15. 12:14 PM - [ Donald Joel Mapes ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
16. 12:50 PM - Re: Engine choices/ Read the story (customtrans@qwest.net)
17. 01:09 PM - Re: (Torgeir Mortensen)
18. 01:11 PM - Engine choices (shortnaked)
19. 01:12 PM - New Year. (Torgeir Mortensen)
20. 02:35 PM - Re: Engine choices/ Read the story ()
21. 03:18 PM - tube bending for fuel sight guage (customtrans@qwest.net)
22. 03:47 PM - New Kitfox Forum (Sean Caranna)
23. 05:31 PM - REMOVE FROM LIST (Sasscanlan@cs.com)
24. 06:10 PM - remove my e-mail address (ramiro martinez)
25. 09:03 PM - Re: Kitfox 4 Throttle (Guy Buchanan)
26. 09:12 PM - Re: Electrical and throttle (Guy Buchanan)
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| Subject: | Technical Article from Sport Aviation |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
Herre is the article from Sport Aviation. Just click on the following
address to receive 3 pages of info from Sport Aviation. Clint
http://groups.msn.com/EAATechnicalArticle/shoebox.msnw
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: KITFOXZ@aol.com
In a message dated 12/30/2004 8:28:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
morid@northland.lib.mi.us writes:
Then again, maybe I've just been on this list too long, gotten too
sensitive, and it's time for me to move on.
Best regards Don,
Darrel
freezing rain in NE Michigan
NO! Darrel you can't leave! You just need to sit back a bit and peruse the
list by subject here and there. Stop reading every little whine and
whimper. Keep pouring out your wealth of knowledge from time to time laced with
Grandfatherly wisdom. The List needs you!
Put your skis back on, go fly your beautiful Fox and report back how she
likes to climb in that thick crisp Michigan air!
John P. Marzluf
Columbus, Ohio
Outback, (out back in the garage)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
KITFOXZ@aol.com wrote:
> NO! Darrel you can't leave!
I agree. Please reconsider, Darrel.
I have been on many lists for some years and I have seen this too many times.
Myself, I have been on the edge of leaving some lists for the same reason. Then
I ask myself: Is it me or is it "them?"
The truth is: the Internet is a wonderful place where international friendship
can develop like nowhere else, and the wealth of information is unprecedented.
But, we humans, are made to communicate verbally. When we do it behind a
computer, misunderstanding can arise very easily.
Then an advice to everybody: Maybe you are right, but sometimes it is worthless
to try to make the point clear by repeating it so often. You can see a flame
when it comes. It's up to all of us to keep it there or fuel it with lengthy comments.
Have a nice New Year's eve, everyone. Here in Norway, it will be a sad one,
considering all the casualties in Asia. Yesterday, I saw in the local newspaper
that a good sailing friend of mine is one of them. In comparison, small
problems seem futile.
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Engine choices/ Read the story |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
Thanks Clint, The engine now has 62 additional hours on it!!!
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
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From: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Engine choices/ Read the story
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill"
<clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
>
> We try to get it to you later today. My daughter is using the computer
now,
> she is here for a few days from Minn. Clint
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michel Gordillo" <michelgordillo@telefonica.net>
Te deseo un feliz a=F1o 2005.
I wish you a very happy new coming year.
Michel Gordillo
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| Subject: | Re: Engine choices/ Read the story |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net>
Clint,
Is it possible to modify the 912UL into a 912 ULS?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Engine choices/ Read the story
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill"
> <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
>
> Rotax increased the displacement and compression ratio and beefed up
> engine.
> 912UL=80 Hp 912ULS=100 HP. Weight gain=3 lb. Also a different gear
> reduction. A slight increase in spacing from front and rear engine mounts.
> About 3/16 inch
>
> Clint
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine choices/ Read the story |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
> Clint,
> Is it possible to modify the 912UL into a 912 ULS?
I can help with this question...
The short answer is; not entirely.
You can install these high compression pistons and get a nice boost in
power: http://www.masterkraft.com/
In our first kitfox, we installed these at about 250 hours. The engine and
pistons now have well over 1000 hours and is still running great. We did an
overhaul at about 1000 hours because the engine ingested some washers and
damaged two pistons, but two of the pistons installed at 250 hours are still
in there. Lockwood said that other than the washer damage, the engine was in
great shape, showing little if any wear. They even had the Masterkraft
pistons in stock.
What you won't get with this mod is the different gear ratio used on the
912ULS. You may not get the full extra 20 hp of the ULS, but you get close.
On a model 4, it would be awesome!
The only downside that I can think of is that you may get some oil seepage
from around the rocker covers after several hundred hours. I don't know if
that was really the fault of the pistons or not, but the fix was for
Lockwood to resurface the rocker covers. That stopped the leaking. It may be
that many 912's without the high compression pistons suffer this leakage
also, I just don't know. (though I have heard of some 80 hp 912's with this
problem)
I hope this info helps.
Best Regards,
Cliff
Erie, CO
S5, Lycoming 0-235
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| Subject: | Re: Engine choices/ Read the story |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
Some people are putting in high compression pistons which will increase the
hp by about 10. It is not recommended by Rotax. Check around, some at the
fly in at Thunder Ridge had the high compression pistons. Clint
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| Subject: | Engine choices/ Read the story |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
very interesting read. My questions are these: Do you need to change any
jetting in the carbs. Do you need to change props or put in the prop for the
912s? thinking of the IVO prop here. Do you need to burn 91 octane or higher
fuel?
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clifford
Begnaud
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Engine choices/ Read the story
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
<shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
> Clint,
> Is it possible to modify the 912UL into a 912 ULS?
I can help with this question...
The short answer is; not entirely.
You can install these high compression pistons and get a nice boost in
power: http://www.masterkraft.com/
In our first kitfox, we installed these at about 250 hours. The engine and
pistons now have well over 1000 hours and is still running great. We did an
overhaul at about 1000 hours because the engine ingested some washers and
damaged two pistons, but two of the pistons installed at 250 hours are still
in there. Lockwood said that other than the washer damage, the engine was in
great shape, showing little if any wear. They even had the Masterkraft
pistons in stock.
What you won't get with this mod is the different gear ratio used on the
912ULS. You may not get the full extra 20 hp of the ULS, but you get close.
On a model 4, it would be awesome!
The only downside that I can think of is that you may get some oil seepage
from around the rocker covers after several hundred hours. I don't know if
that was really the fault of the pistons or not, but the fix was for
Lockwood to resurface the rocker covers. That stopped the leaking. It may be
that many 912's without the high compression pistons suffer this leakage
also, I just don't know. (though I have heard of some 80 hp 912's with this
problem)
I hope this info helps.
Best Regards,
Cliff
Erie, CO
S5, Lycoming 0-235
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: roncarolnikko@webtv.net (Ron Schick)
I may be the vw enthusiast that was referred to by Darrel. There is also
another named robert and probably others so I won't claim all the fame.
Yes some people discourage the idea and others simply share there
experience. Others have offered options that may even promote the vw. I
try to glean knowledge even from the critics and as they say, those that
mind don't matter. Thanx for the input as it has made me at least
explore alternatives. Still not building on this plane so all options
are on the table. Darrel thanx for looking out for the new guy, that's
just another way of helping someone build an airplane. Happy new year to
all, Ron in North Bend Oregon do not archive
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| Subject: | Engine choices/ Read the story |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
I put the 912S in my Model IV-1200 and still used the 68 inch prop. Ivo
said no at first but said it was ok. On runup the prop had a tendency to
cavitate but stopped as soon as the aircraft got up to about 10 mph or if
there was a 10 mph headwind. I used that prop for a while and then ordered
3 new 72 inch zero plus blades. They work great. If you were to put high
compression pistons in a 912UL, you have to use high test gasoline 92 auto
or 100 LL. I don't use auto fuel anymore because California uses alcohol as
a oxidizer.
My guess is you might have to move the clip on the metering rods up one
notch for a slight increase in fuel usage. Clint
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| Subject: | Re: Engine choices/ Read the story |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
No, you don't need to change the jetting in the carbs.
If you have a fixed pitch, non adjustable prop, it's possible that you would
need to change the prop.(maybe not if the original is a cruise prop) If you
have either a ground adjustable or inflight adjustable prop, you are in good
shape. An Ivo prop would work great, talk to John McBean here on the list
about them jdmcbean@cableone.net
Yes, 91 octane (or higher) or avgas is recommended. We ran both 91 octane
and avgas with good results.
Cliff
> very interesting read. My questions are these: Do you need to change any
> jetting in the carbs. Do you need to change props or put in the prop for
> the
> 912s? thinking of the IVO prop here. Do you need to burn 91 octane or
> higher
> fuel?
>
> steve a
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| Subject: | Engine choices/ Read the story |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
Now here is another question: What generally goes bad on these engines when
it comes time for rebuild. Reason why is mine has about 650 hrs. on the
engine and if mainly the rings go bad, than maybe I should change the rings
and call it good. OR, am I wasting my money doing the upgrade since in
another 650 hrs. I will need another engine anyway?
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clifford
Begnaud
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Engine choices/ Read the story
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
<shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
No, you don't need to change the jetting in the carbs.
If you have a fixed pitch, non adjustable prop, it's possible that you would
need to change the prop.(maybe not if the original is a cruise prop) If you
have either a ground adjustable or inflight adjustable prop, you are in good
shape. An Ivo prop would work great, talk to John McBean here on the list
about them jdmcbean@cableone.net
Yes, 91 octane (or higher) or avgas is recommended. We ran both 91 octane
and avgas with good results.
Cliff
> very interesting read. My questions are these: Do you need to change any
> jetting in the carbs. Do you need to change props or put in the prop for
> the
> 912s? thinking of the IVO prop here. Do you need to burn 91 octane or
> higher
> fuel?
>
> steve a
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| Subject: | Re: Engine choices/ Read the story |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
I believe that the TBO on the 912 series is now 1500 hours. Lockwood
recommends overhauling the carbs and gear box at 500 hours. Other than
normal maintenance, you don't need to worry about the rings unless you get a
drop in compression or start burning oil. But I'm no engine guru, so
hopefully others will add to this.
At full overhaul time, the crankshaft is replaced and the engine is
completely worked over. I was told by Lockwood that they see 912's come in
for overhaul with 1800 hours, still showing little wear.
If you installled the pistons now and overhauled the engine in another 850
hours (1500 total), the pistons will have cost you $1 per hour. Also, if the
pistons are still good at overhaul time (and I see no reason why they
wouldn't be) they could be reinstalled.
My Masterkraft pistons had over 700 hours on them when the engine was
overhauled. The good ones were reinstalled with new rings. I don't know what
the life span is for the pistons. Ask Masterkraft.
Cliff
>
> Now here is another question: What generally goes bad on these engines
> when
> it comes time for rebuild. Reason why is mine has about 650 hrs. on the
> engine and if mainly the rings go bad, than maybe I should change the
> rings
> and call it good. OR, am I wasting my money doing the upgrade since in
> another 650 hrs. I will need another engine anyway?
>
> steve a
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clifford
> Begnaud
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Engine choices/ Read the story
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
> <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>
> No, you don't need to change the jetting in the carbs.
> If you have a fixed pitch, non adjustable prop, it's possible that you
> would
> need to change the prop.(maybe not if the original is a cruise prop) If
> you
> have either a ground adjustable or inflight adjustable prop, you are in
> good
> shape. An Ivo prop would work great, talk to John McBean here on the list
> about them jdmcbean@cableone.net
>
> Yes, 91 octane (or higher) or avgas is recommended. We ran both 91 octane
> and avgas with good results.
> Cliff
>
>> very interesting read. My questions are these: Do you need to change any
>> jetting in the carbs. Do you need to change props or put in the prop for
>> the
>> 912s? thinking of the IVO prop here. Do you need to burn 91 octane or
>> higher
>> fuel?
>>
>> steve a
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Engine choices/ Read the story |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
When you wrote "at overhaul, lockwood said that there were little wear on
the engines at 1800 hrs." that says a bunch. Thanks.
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clifford
Begnaud
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Engine choices/ Read the story
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
<shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
I believe that the TBO on the 912 series is now 1500 hours. Lockwood
recommends overhauling the carbs and gear box at 500 hours. Other than
normal maintenance, you don't need to worry about the rings unless you get a
drop in compression or start burning oil. But I'm no engine guru, so
hopefully others will add to this.
At full overhaul time, the crankshaft is replaced and the engine is
completely worked over. I was told by Lockwood that they see 912's come in
for overhaul with 1800 hours, still showing little wear.
If you installled the pistons now and overhauled the engine in another 850
hours (1500 total), the pistons will have cost you $1 per hour. Also, if the
pistons are still good at overhaul time (and I see no reason why they
wouldn't be) they could be reinstalled.
My Masterkraft pistons had over 700 hours on them when the engine was
overhauled. The good ones were reinstalled with new rings. I don't know what
the life span is for the pistons. Ask Masterkraft.
Cliff
>
> Now here is another question: What generally goes bad on these engines
> when
> it comes time for rebuild. Reason why is mine has about 650 hrs. on the
> engine and if mainly the rings go bad, than maybe I should change the
> rings
> and call it good. OR, am I wasting my money doing the upgrade since in
> another 650 hrs. I will need another engine anyway?
>
> steve a
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clifford
> Begnaud
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Engine choices/ Read the story
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
> <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>
> No, you don't need to change the jetting in the carbs.
> If you have a fixed pitch, non adjustable prop, it's possible that you
> would
> need to change the prop.(maybe not if the original is a cruise prop) If
> you
> have either a ground adjustable or inflight adjustable prop, you are in
> good
> shape. An Ivo prop would work great, talk to John McBean here on the list
> about them jdmcbean@cableone.net
>
> Yes, 91 octane (or higher) or avgas is recommended. We ran both 91 octane
> and avgas with good results.
> Cliff
>
>> very interesting read. My questions are these: Do you need to change any
>> jetting in the carbs. Do you need to change props or put in the prop for
>> the
>> 912s? thinking of the IVO prop here. Do you need to burn 91 octane or
>> higher
>> fuel?
>>
>> steve a
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Hi Michel,
Thank you very much - Michell.
May you and Your family have a happy New Year.
Best regards
Torgeir.
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 06:33:27 -0800, Michel Gordillo
<michelgordillo@telefonica.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michel Gordillo"
> <michelgordillo@telefonica.net>
>
>
> Te deseo un feliz a=F1o 2005.
> I wish you a very happy new coming year.
> Michel Gordillo
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
What is hte topic here ?
NSI ?
rotax 582 or 912 > ?
Lets see some facts and actual perfoamnce results for the 3 engines
Maintenance imo would be nsi adn 912 the least
582 more service but man they got the best power per pound HANDS down
Shorty
Happy New Year all and hopefully a superb financial year for Skystar.
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Happy New Year to Every one, -see you next year.
Torgeir.
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| Subject: | Re: Engine choices/ Read the story |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <av8rps@tznet.com>
Cliff:
Just curious; Does the high compression piston kit cause the same excessive
shaking at start up and shut down the 912s is known for? I know you have
done a lot to cure this with your engine, so I thought you might be the best
person to ask.
Paul Seehafer
Central Wisconsin
Model IV 912ul amphib
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Engine choices/ Read the story
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
> <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>
> I believe that the TBO on the 912 series is now 1500 hours. Lockwood
> recommends overhauling the carbs and gear box at 500 hours. Other than
> normal maintenance, you don't need to worry about the rings unless you get
> a
> drop in compression or start burning oil. But I'm no engine guru, so
> hopefully others will add to this.
> At full overhaul time, the crankshaft is replaced and the engine is
> completely worked over. I was told by Lockwood that they see 912's come in
> for overhaul with 1800 hours, still showing little wear.
> If you installled the pistons now and overhauled the engine in another 850
> hours (1500 total), the pistons will have cost you $1 per hour. Also, if
> the
> pistons are still good at overhaul time (and I see no reason why they
> wouldn't be) they could be reinstalled.
> My Masterkraft pistons had over 700 hours on them when the engine was
> overhauled. The good ones were reinstalled with new rings. I don't know
> what
> the life span is for the pistons. Ask Masterkraft.
> Cliff
>>
>> Now here is another question: What generally goes bad on these engines
>> when
>> it comes time for rebuild. Reason why is mine has about 650 hrs. on the
>> engine and if mainly the rings go bad, than maybe I should change the
>> rings
>> and call it good. OR, am I wasting my money doing the upgrade since in
>> another 650 hrs. I will need another engine anyway?
>>
>> steve a
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clifford
>> Begnaud
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Engine choices/ Read the story
>>
>>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
>> <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>>
>> No, you don't need to change the jetting in the carbs.
>> If you have a fixed pitch, non adjustable prop, it's possible that you
>> would
>> need to change the prop.(maybe not if the original is a cruise prop) If
>> you
>> have either a ground adjustable or inflight adjustable prop, you are in
>> good
>> shape. An Ivo prop would work great, talk to John McBean here on the list
>> about them jdmcbean@cableone.net
>>
>> Yes, 91 octane (or higher) or avgas is recommended. We ran both 91 octane
>> and avgas with good results.
>> Cliff
>>
>>> very interesting read. My questions are these: Do you need to change
>>> any
>>> jetting in the carbs. Do you need to change props or put in the prop for
>>> the
>>> 912s? thinking of the IVO prop here. Do you need to burn 91 octane or
>>> higher
>>> fuel?
>>>
>>> steve a
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | tube bending for fuel sight guage |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
Group,
I just bent my tubing and it was as easy as it gets. I used my heat gun.
Ok I'm in for it now. No seariously, I put the heat gun on the low setting
and heated the tube. Bent like butter. Now you got to be very careful but
it works great. If you kink off the line just use a rag and sqeeze or pinch
the hose and take the kink out. If the hose is too hot the rag will put
impressions in the tube so be careful not to get it too hot. I'm using an
ATD 3735 gun, I think it cost around 30 dollars.
steve a
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 4 Throttle |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 06:25 AM 12/25/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> I think one weak spot might be the ball on the end of the carb cable
>(under the slide). For this, I made sure that when I hit full throttle, the
>vernier would bottom out at the instrument panel "just" before the
>throttle slide
>hit the top of the carb. This put the shock at the vernier rather than on
>the
>ball of the cable.
>
>Just my thought
>Don Smythe
>N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
Don,
Very good idea. I'll do it.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical and throttle |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Michel,
Would you please contact Bob Nucholls (b.nuckolls@cox.net) on the
Aeroelectric List about your noise issue. He's interested in the details.
Thanks,
Guy
At 10:10 AM 12/24/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>Hello Guy,
>
> > 1. I searched the list and it seemed the consensus was to put the Rotax
> > 264870 finned regulator on the engine side of the firewall,
>
>I think it was after my experience of removing the regulator from the
>cockpit to the engine side of the firewall and getting a much better radio
>signal with nearly no RFI. I can still recommend it. My regulator never
>had problems with engine heat and I see that for the Jabiru, the regulator
>is in the engine room as a standard configuration.
>
>
>Happy holidays,
>
>Michel
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