---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/06/05: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:06 AM - Re: wheel rims needed (R & L Ainsworth) 2. 02:03 AM - Re: Right fabric door panel lost (Howard Firm) 3. 02:38 AM - SV: Oil Injection Tank (Michel Verheughe) 4. 02:47 AM - SV: Kitfox 5 w/Jabiru 3300 Details (Michel Verheughe) 5. 05:09 AM - Sportflight.com "uploads" (Fox5flyer) 6. 06:05 AM - Re: Oil Injection Tank (Clem Nichols) 7. 08:12 AM - Kitfox 5 w/Jabiru 3300 Details - CORRECTED Prop Length () 8. 10:21 AM - Re: SV: Oil Injection Tank - Skinny Dipper (kurt schrader) 9. 03:49 PM - Re: Steel prop plate. (Cudnohufsky's) 10. 04:49 PM - Kerry you might consider using what you have for a while. I have had no problems (Rex & Jan Shaw) 11. 05:40 PM - Re: Right fabric door panel lost (Jeff Smathers) 12. 05:43 PM - Maule Tail Wheel (Dee Young) 13. 05:50 PM - original 8 inch wheels (Jack Seaford) 14. 06:02 PM - Re: Right fabric door panel lost (Howard Firm) 15. 07:06 PM - Re: Steel prop plate. (Steve Cooper) 16. 08:09 PM - Re: SV: Oil Injection Tank - Skinny Dipper (David Savener) 17. 09:42 PM - Re: SV: Oil Injection Tank - Skinny Dipper (AV8OR27RL@cs.com) 18. 11:14 PM - Re: Right fabric door panel lost (Jeff Smathers) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:27 AM PST US From: "R & L Ainsworth" Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: wheel rims needed --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "R & L Ainsworth" Hello List Does any one have two of the old style ATV rims they would like to sell ?They are for a 1991 Model 3 Denny Kitfox. Alternatively does anyone know of any other type or style or manufacture who makes rims to fit the old style .75 inch axeles and what sort of tires they would take. TIA Russell Ainsworth.Zk - KIV New Zealand ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:03:58 AM PST US From: "Howard Firm" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Right fabric door panel lost --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" I have them, but they are grey!!! Howard Firm 508 12th St. South Virginia MN 55792 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Smathers" Subject: Kitfox-List: Right fabric door panel lost > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jeff Smathers > > Hi all, > > I need to replace the fabric covered door panel with the > sewn pocket that SS sells. I lost mine last summer when the > velcro gave way just enough to pucker a hole into the airstream, > it then inflated in about 1/2 second and then ripped itself away and > landed in some field that was just plowed about 75 miles from > home. > > Mine was a cordura blue. Any ideas? > > Thanks, Jeff Smathers > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:38:01 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: Oil Injection Tank --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe > From: David Savener [david_savener@msn.com] > I bought one from CPS but if I mount it on the firewall behind the engine, it nearly > touches the top of the head. I'm concerned that it might get too hot. Hello Dave, How near is "nearly touches" in inches? I think this water-cooled engine never gets the cylinder head that hot that it could cause problems. What you could do, though, is this: Get that double-sided glue tape that is on a very thin foam strip. The one you use to install e.g. a cell phone holder on the dashboard of your car. Tape it on the part of your oil tank that is close to the cylinder head. Then cover it with aluminium foil with the glossy side out. The foil and the foam will give excellent heat isolation. But, more important, you should have an oil level sensor in your tank with a warning light on your panel. Cheers, Michel ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:17 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 5 w/Jabiru 3300 Details --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe > From: Lonnie_D._Tillinghast@oxy.com > I have had people ask about the cowling fit as that seems to be a common > challenge... Argh! You can say that, brother! I am still trying to get me head out of the water in a sea of epoxy, glassfiber and micro-balloons! :-) Anyway, glad to hear you are pleased with your Jabiru. I think I will be too, although it is only a 2200. First trial flight is planned for first days of February. ... ok, now I have to go back and dive down again in my epoxy! :-) ... did I mention sanding? Lots of sanding? Argh! :-) Cheers, Michel do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:14 AM PST US From: "Fox5flyer" Subject: Kitfox-List: Sportflight.com "uploads" --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" We have many new members with us and some may not know about the Kitfox List photo archive. On the subject of posting photos and other attachment type things, I'd like to remind everyone that for several years Don Pearsall's Sportflight.com site has been the Kitfox List's repository for photos, drawings, and other long term attachment type information that can't be sent through the List. This site is our archive of what the members have been doing and is a wealth of information and ideas. It's all categorized, If members choose to use the matronics photo share, that's ok, but to prevent fragmentation and for long term continuity sake, I'd suggest that it would be a better choice to support our "upload" site. Take a look, browse around, and if any questions or comments, feel free to let us know. Simple to use. Just go to Sportflight.com, click on then follow prompts. Lots of other good Kitfox stuff in Sportflight so take a look. Deke Morisse List Janitor ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:54 AM PST US From: "Clem Nichols" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oil Injection Tank --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" David: The standard ratio gas/oil in a Rotax 2-stroke is 50/1. Obviously this ratio varies with the injection system based on how fast the engine is running (richer at high speed and leaner at lower rpm) but it would probably average out close to that. This ratio figures out to 16 ounces of oil for 6.25 gallons of gas or about 26 ounces for your 10 gallon tank. Based on this, a 32 ounce tank should be more than adequate (assuming that it's draining from the bottom of the tank), and if you fill the oil tank each time you gas up, you probably wouldn't need a sight gauge. Hope this helps. Clem Nichols ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Savener" Subject: Kitfox-List: Oil Injection Tank > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Savener" > > I am replacing my 532 with a 582 with oil injection. > > I have a 10 Gallon fuel tank. I'm thinking that I should have about a 48 > oz. capacity in my oil tank. > > Does that sound about right? > > Does anyone know of an ideal tank for a reasonable price. I bought one > from CPS but if I mount it on the firewall behind the engine, it nearly > touches the top of the head. I'm concerned that it might get too hot. > > I've been looking for just the right Coolant recovery tank or Washer fluid > reservoir. Haven't found it yet. > > How about I make one out of PVC pipe or something similar. I'd need a > sight gauge in that case. > > Dave S > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 1/3/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:46 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 5 w/Jabiru 3300 Details - CORRECTED Prop Length From: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: I am a fan of this list for a few months now, have posted a few comments (but not a daily participator), and have had several people ask a few questions about my 5 and Jabiru combination as they are not real common. I thought I would throw a few details out there especially for those pondering engine choices and offer any help that I could. In Nov. I bought a 2-year old 5 with a 6-cylinder Jabiru 3300 in it after looking for more than a year at all the engine combinations that are available. The Fox is decked out and weighs 812lbs with a Sensinich W64ZK-44 prop (64"), Grove landing gear, Grove/Maule tail wheel, wheel pants, 6-pack instrument cluster, radio, transponder, color moving map GPS, Rocky Mountain engine analyzer, 5-function stick grip, CD player, etc. It had 145 hours on it when I bought it, has 160 now...only limited by rainy weather. It was built by an A&P for Southwest Airlines in Phoenix. Cruises easily under 75% power at 120mph and 6gph. Can push it to 85% power at 130mph at 7gph, but the extra 10mph is not worth the 1gph...besides, who that fly's a Fox is in a hurry??? Personally, I like flying it around at 90-110mph and 4.5-5.0gph, sometimes slower with the doors off. Full power is not needed to takeoff...I often don't use it. I can not believe the performance and how quiet and smooth the Jabiru is...I especially like the simplicity of it. It makes no difference if you have one or two people in the Fox...quarter full of gas or topped off, she JUMPS off the ground! I have had people ask about the cowling fit as that seems to be a common challenge...it is the Safari cowl and was extended to accommodate the longer 6-cylinder engine by a company that does boat repairs. From another post, I saw the following table re. weights and engine choices, I added my 3300 and the hp's: Engine Empty weight 912s (100hp) 750 lbs 3300 (120hp) 812lbs O-200 (100hp) 850 lbs O-235 (118hp) 900 lbs O-240 (125hp) 900 lbs Obviously all engine choices have their pros & cons and I'll stay away from that. I would, however, encourage anyone that is trying to decide which engine to use to take a look at a Jabiru (you are welcome to come fly mine) and their website is www.usjabiru.com. For those that already have an engine and don't want to spend any more money, I'd stay away from them...;-) Please let me know if I can help. Thanks, Lonnie ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:31 AM PST US From: kurt schrader Subject: Re: SV: Kitfox-List: Oil Injection Tank - Skinny Dipper --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader Speaking of which, does anyone know about the Skinny Dipper oil level indicator? This is all I know so far and was thinking of using one. It seems to give oil level and temp readouts. http://www.propgov.com/dip_page/ Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo --- Michel Verheughe wrote: ........... > But, more important, you should have an oil level > sensor in your tank with a warning light on your > panel. > > Cheers, > Michel __________________________________ http://my.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:39 PM PST US From: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Steel prop plate. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net> Steve, What engine are you running the Prince prop on and what was you reasons for choosing that prop? Lloyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Cooper" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Steel prop plate. > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" > > Thanks for the information. I didn't have any choice...the lug inserts in > my > prop flange were 5/16. The prop is a Graphite Prince P-tip, 68" diameter. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Pearsall > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Steel prop plate. > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" > > > Steve, most small props such as on the Kitfox really do not have enough > stress to require the larger bolts. If you have ever read the specs of the > AN bolts, they are about 125,000 PSI tensile strength. I don't know what > it > would take to get the bolts to fail, but I am sure that the rest of the > prop > or plane would fail before your prop bolts broke. I used to carve my own > wood props and even tested them to failure. In all cases the props broke > long before the hub or bolts even showed any stress. > > The main thing is to torque them to the proper specs so the prop does not > move on the hub, like Jerry Liles just mentioned. So I don't think you > wrecked the prop, it just wasn't needed. > > Don Pearsall > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Cooper > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Steel prop plate. > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" > > I have a question for you more experienced guys...I have a prop that > originally came with 1/4" bolts. I drilled them out to fit 5/16" bolts. > Did > I ruin the prop? I haven't run it yet. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Liles > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Steel prop plate. > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles > > The plate is necessary for a wood prop and optional for others. It > serves to distribute the pressure of the mounting bolts over a wider > area to reduce crushing of the wood fibers and also to increase the > surface area providing friction to hold the prop in place. Wood props > are largely held in place by friction with the prop hub and crush > plate. If the fit is loose, like happened to me once, the prop can heat > up to the smoking point where it is rubbing against the hub. Not a good > thing. > > Jerry Liles > > AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote: > >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com >> >>In a message dated 1/5/05 7:27:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, >>morid@northland.lib.mi.us writes: >> >><< >> What is the purpose of the plate? I thought they were used only for > wooden >> props with wooden hubs. >> Deke >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:49:02 PM PST US From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" Subject: Kitfox-List: Kerry you might consider using what you have for a while. I have had no problems --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" Kerry you might consider using what you have for a while. I have had no problems with the Maule wheel to date. I have a MKIV with the Maule SFSA tailwheel this is the solid tyre. I guess in that configuration it worked OK but it was noisy so we changed just the wheel not the assembly to a homebuilders soft rubber tyre P/N 06-03600. This not only made one hell of a difference taxi-ing on bitumen noise wise but it is easier to taxi and we feel it is handling better on landing. Rex. rexjan@bigpond.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:40:00 PM PST US From: Jeff Smathers Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Right fabric door panel lost --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jeff Smathers Hi Howard, Grey huh? I'll ask my wife Tina if the off color scheme would be OK for her taste. ( I don't really mind. ) How much do you want for them? BTW did you mount that MAC5 grip into your airplane yet? I'd like to see some photos too! Thanks, Jeff Smathers Molalla, Oregon 125hr TT N456JT Howard Firm wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" > > I have them, but they are grey!!! > > Howard Firm > 508 12th St. South > Virginia MN 55792 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Smathers" > To: > Subject: Kitfox-List: Right fabric door panel lost > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jeff Smathers > > > > Hi all, > > > > I need to replace the fabric covered door panel with the > > sewn pocket that SS sells. I lost mine last summer when the > > velcro gave way just enough to pucker a hole into the airstream, > > it then inflated in about 1/2 second and then ripped itself away and > > landed in some field that was just plowed about 75 miles from > > home. > > > > Mine was a cordura blue. Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, Jeff Smathers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:18 PM PST US From: "Dee Young" Subject: Kitfox-List: Maule Tail Wheel Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:42:03 -0700 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" Kerry you might consider using what you have for a while. I have had no problems with the Maule wheel to date. I have a MKIV with the Maule SFSA tailwheel this is the solid tyre. I guess in that configuration it worked OK but it was noisy so we changed just the wheel not the assembly to a homebuilders soft rubber tyre P/N 06-03600. This not only made one hell of a difference taxi-ing on bitumen noise wise but it is easier to taxi and we feel it is handling better on landing. Rex. I like the Maule tail as well as the Citabria and it handles almost exactly the same. Dee Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:50:13 PM PST US From: "Jack Seaford" Subject: Kitfox-List: original 8 inch wheels --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jack Seaford" I need an 8 inch original aluminum wheel. Does anyone have one for sale. Contact off list. Jack Seaford jseaford@bellsouth.net 1-336-492-2000 IV-1200 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:02:25 PM PST US From: "Howard Firm" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Right fabric door panel lost --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" I did use the grip...works great with the PPT & CAP!!! Free panels by the way! Howard Firm 508 12th St. South Virginia MN 55792 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Smathers" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Right fabric door panel lost > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jeff Smathers > > Hi Howard, > > Grey huh? I'll ask my wife Tina if the off color scheme would > be OK for her taste. ( I don't really mind. ) How much do you want > for them? > > BTW did you mount that MAC5 grip into your airplane yet? > I'd like to see some photos too! > > Thanks, Jeff Smathers Molalla, Oregon 125hr TT N456JT > > Howard Firm wrote: > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" > > > > I have them, but they are grey!!! > > > > Howard Firm > > 508 12th St. South > > Virginia MN 55792 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jeff Smathers" > > To: > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Right fabric door panel lost > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jeff Smathers > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I need to replace the fabric covered door panel with the > > > sewn pocket that SS sells. I lost mine last summer when the > > > velcro gave way just enough to pucker a hole into the airstream, > > > it then inflated in about 1/2 second and then ripped itself away and > > > landed in some field that was just plowed about 75 miles from > > > home. > > > > > > Mine was a cordura blue. Any ideas? > > > > > > Thanks, Jeff Smathers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:06:54 PM PST US From: "Steve Cooper" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Steel prop plate. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" I'm running a Jabiru 2200. I guess I chose the prop because Tony Spicer was running one on his Jab 3300 Sonex and had pretty good experience with it. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cudnohufsky's Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Steel prop plate. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net> Steve, What engine are you running the Prince prop on and what was you reasons for choosing that prop? Lloyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Cooper" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Steel prop plate. > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" > > Thanks for the information. I didn't have any choice...the lug inserts in > my > prop flange were 5/16. The prop is a Graphite Prince P-tip, 68" diameter. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Pearsall > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Steel prop plate. > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" > > > Steve, most small props such as on the Kitfox really do not have enough > stress to require the larger bolts. If you have ever read the specs of the > AN bolts, they are about 125,000 PSI tensile strength. I don't know what > it > would take to get the bolts to fail, but I am sure that the rest of the > prop > or plane would fail before your prop bolts broke. I used to carve my own > wood props and even tested them to failure. In all cases the props broke > long before the hub or bolts even showed any stress. > > The main thing is to torque them to the proper specs so the prop does not > move on the hub, like Jerry Liles just mentioned. So I don't think you > wrecked the prop, it just wasn't needed. > > Don Pearsall > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Cooper > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Steel prop plate. > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" > > I have a question for you more experienced guys...I have a prop that > originally came with 1/4" bolts. I drilled them out to fit 5/16" bolts. > Did > I ruin the prop? I haven't run it yet. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Liles > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Steel prop plate. > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles > > The plate is necessary for a wood prop and optional for others. It > serves to distribute the pressure of the mounting bolts over a wider > area to reduce crushing of the wood fibers and also to increase the > surface area providing friction to hold the prop in place. Wood props > are largely held in place by friction with the prop hub and crush > plate. If the fit is loose, like happened to me once, the prop can heat > up to the smoking point where it is rubbing against the hub. Not a good > thing. > > Jerry Liles > > AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote: > >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com >> >>In a message dated 1/5/05 7:27:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, >>morid@northland.lib.mi.us writes: >> >><< >> What is the purpose of the plate? I thought they were used only for > wooden >> props with wooden hubs. >> Deke >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:09:49 PM PST US From: "David Savener" Subject: Re: SV: Kitfox-List: Oil Injection Tank - Skinny Dipper Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:07:05 -0600 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Savener" I think I'll hang a hot water bottle from an over head tube above the right seat. I'll attach enema plumbing and hook it to my oil injector. Then I'll know how much I have left and if I go IFR I can use it as a turn and bank indicator!!!! I'll probably get an STC for that setup!!!! Dave S ----- Original Message ----- From: kurt schrader To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:20 PM Subject: Re: SV: Kitfox-List: Oil Injection Tank - Skinny Dipper --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > Speaking of which, does anyone know about the Skinny Dipper oil level indicator? This is all I know so far and was thinking of using one. It seems to give oil level and temp readouts. http://www.propgov.com/dip_page/ Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo --- Michel Verheughe > wrote: ........... > But, more important, you should have an oil level > sensor in your tank with a warning light on your > panel. > > Cheers, > Michel __________________________________ http://my.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:42:51 PM PST US From: AV8OR27RL@cs.com Subject: Re: SV: Kitfox-List: Oil Injection Tank - Skinny Dipper --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AV8OR27RL@cs.com In a message dated 1/6/05 9:10:41 PM Mountain Standard Time, david_savener@msn.com writes: << I think I'll hang a hot water bottle from an over head tube above the right seat. I'll attach enema plumbing and hook it to my oil injector. >> Neat idea. Might work well as an inverted system as well. Bob Locey Do not archive. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:14:59 PM PST US From: Jeff Smathers Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Right fabric door panel lost --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jeff Smathers Wow! thanks Howard ! I will send you a check for $20. for the shipping and hassle, hows that? What did you end up using in your plane then? Jeff Smathers Howard Firm wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" > > I did use the grip...works great with the PPT & CAP!!! > Free panels by the way! > > Howard Firm > 508 12th St. South > Virginia MN 55792 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Smathers" > To: > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Right fabric door panel lost > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jeff Smathers > > > > Hi Howard, > > > > Grey huh? I'll ask my wife Tina if the off color scheme would > > be OK for her taste. ( I don't really mind. ) How much do you want > > for them? > > > > BTW did you mount that MAC5 grip into your airplane yet? > > I'd like to see some photos too! > > > > Thanks, Jeff Smathers Molalla, Oregon 125hr TT N456JT > > > > Howard Firm wrote: > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" > > > > > > I have them, but they are grey!!! > > > > > > Howard Firm > > > 508 12th St. South > > > Virginia MN 55792 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jeff Smathers" > > > To: > > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Right fabric door panel lost > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jeff Smathers > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I need to replace the fabric covered door panel with the > > > > sewn pocket that SS sells. I lost mine last summer when the > > > > velcro gave way just enough to pucker a hole into the airstream, > > > > it then inflated in about 1/2 second and then ripped itself away and > > > > landed in some field that was just plowed about 75 miles from > > > > home. > > > > > > > > Mine was a cordura blue. Any ideas? > > > > > > > > Thanks, Jeff Smathers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >