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1. 02:30 AM - Re: Camera (Michel Verheughe)
2. 06:09 AM - Re: Bungies (Dee Young)
3. 06:45 AM - Re: Bungies (LGreen4899@aol.com)
4. 07:14 AM - Re: Bungies (Cudnohufsky's)
5. 07:23 AM - powerfin props (dwight purdy)
6. 07:34 AM - homebuilt gross weight within limits? (N53dw@aol.com)
7. 09:34 AM - Re: powerfin props (Randy Daughenbaugh)
8. 09:37 AM - Re: Things to do to your Kitfox to live longer- Part 2 (customtrans@qwest.net)
9. 10:23 AM - Re: Bungies (Lowell Fitt)
10. 11:03 AM - Re: powerfin props (Lowell Fitt)
11. 12:35 PM - Can you zero a hobbs meter? (Michel Verheughe)
12. 12:40 PM - Re: RECERTIFICATION OF A PLANE FOR LSA (Allan Arthur)
13. 03:10 PM - Re: model IV wing tanks (kurt schrader)
14. 03:51 PM - Re: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit (kurt schrader)
15. 03:59 PM - Re: Bungies (Jerry Liles)
16. 03:59 PM - Re: Bahamas (John King)
17. 04:11 PM - Re: RECERTIFICATION OF A PLANE FOR LSA (Richard Hutson)
18. 04:59 PM - Re: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit (Allan Aaron)
19. 05:55 PM - Re: model IV wing tanks (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
20. 07:12 PM - Darrel's Big Trip (Don Pearsall)
21. 07:50 PM - Electrical Question (David Estapa)
22. 09:22 PM - Re: Electrical Question (Jay Fabian)
23. 10:59 PM - Re: New on the group (r.thomas@za.pwc.com)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Jim Gilliatt wrote:
> The pictures that you took are great, and it seems that I should find
> out what sort of a camera that you used.
Thank you, Jim. My camera is 4 years old and cheap. It is an Olympus Camedia
C-21. I don't think you can still buy it and I am pretty sure you can get
equivalent, if not a better camera, just anywhere.
What I do, though, before posting photos, is to open them in Photoshop, re-size
them and adjust the colour and brightness balance. Try opening a not-so-good
photo and select "auto-curves." You will be surprised to so how it
automatically enhances it.
Cheers,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Graeme, you can order the stock from Air Craft Spruce. They are 3/8' dia I believe
and need to be 64" from loop to loop. You can also order them from Skystar
already made up. With a cc you can order from ACS right over the net. They are
easy to make with safety wire or rib stitch cord, which ever your prefer. I
have several sets in my hanger that I made up and its not that difficult to do.
Besides its good training.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
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----- Original Message -----
From: Graeme Toft<mailto:msm@byterocky.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:50 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Bungies
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net<mailto:msm@byterocky.net>>
Hi Guys, I have a ktfox model 1 and will need to replace the bungies shortly.
Im pretty sure there isnt anywhere in Australia that sells them so thought I
might ask for advice from the list as to any retail outlets in the states or elsewhere
that would ship to Aus. Failing this being a practicle option has anyone
made them themselves?. Im sure I could get them swagged if I new what the
material is that there made of and the right length. Also, there are quite a few
Skyfox's around whcih use the same setup. Does anyone know if the bungies for
them would suit a fox.
Thanks in advance.
Graeme
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: LGreen4899@aol.com
I got bungies for my mogel 1 from skystar
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net>
Graeme ,
I use to purchase my bungee material in bulk from Aircraft Spruce and
Specialty Co. there may be others like Wicks Aircraft Co. that may also be
able to offer the material., however I was not able to find the aluminum
swaging / nicopresss ends used by Skystar in either of their catalogs but
was able to get them from our local Ace Hardware store, never tried Skystar
to see if they would just sell the swaging sleeves. I had a damaged bungee
that came with my kit that I used to determine the proper length.
Lloyd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Bungies
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Hi Guys, I have a ktfox model 1 and will need to replace the bungies
> shortly. Im pretty sure there isnt anywhere in Australia that sells them
> so thought I might ask for advice from the list as to any retail outlets
> in the states or elsewhere that would ship to Aus. Failing this being a
> practicle option has anyone made them themselves?. Im sure I could get
> them swagged if I new what the material is that there made of and the
> right length. Also, there are quite a few Skyfox's around whcih use the
> same setup. Does anyone know if the bungies for them would suit a fox.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Graeme
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
have not heard much if any of Kitfoxs flying with Powerfin props.I would
like to hear from anyone on pros or cons. Wanting to stay with my b box.
dwight
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| Subject: | homebuilt gross weight within limits? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: N53dw@aol.com
There was a discussion on the list a few days back pertaining to lowering
the gross weight of an airplane with the aim of putting it within sport pilot
limits. I posed a question to EAA and got this response. I didn't ask
specifically about re-registering a plane that's already been through the
inspection and test flight period. The answer makes me think, though, that you
could
re-run the W&B sheet with a new gross weight, and, viola, you have a sport
plane....that you routinely fly over gross.
Danny Williamson
Stratus-powered Series 5
QUESTION: From an enforcement standpoint, how would an FAA inspector know
the gross weight rating of any particular experimental aircraft? It seems
pretty clear that, in the case of one-of-a-kind creations where the builder is
also the designer, it is the builder who sets the gross weight limit. On the
other hand, in the case of a kit plane, would an inspector be obligated to
follow the ratings published by the kit maker? Or could the builder
artificially lower the gross weight rating to meet the Sport Pilot rule?
ANSWER: An amateur-built aircraft, either kit-built or plans-built, is the
unique creation of it's builder. As such, the builder has the option of
setting the gross weight at any level he or she sees fit. Thus, even though the
kit or plans vendor might publish a gross weight above the maximum allowed in
the light-sport aircraft (LSA) definition, the builder of the individual
aircraft might choose to limit his/her aircraft to the LSA maximum.
This maximum weight is recorded in two places in the aircraft records - on
the weight and balance data carried in the aircraft, and in the aircraft
records where the builder has recorded the completion of the flight test period.
These records would establish the maximum gross weight for that aircraft,
regardless of what the kit or plans vendor recommends for the design.
Joe Norris
EAA Aviation Services
EAA Aviation Center, Oshkosh, WI
888-322-4636, extension 6806
_jnorris@eaa.org_ (mailto:jnorris@eaa.org)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Dwight,
I have a 72" 3 blade "F" Powerfin on my 912S. I don't have much time on it,
but have a few observations.
Even at a 4000' airport, it has great thrust and gets off the ground very
quickly. I have added more pitch three times now and may add more soon. One
thing that really strikes me that the prop really seems to have little
slippage in the air. If I set up for cruise, and then change the trim
slightly, the RPM on the engine will change by 200 up or down depending upon
whether I lowered the nose or raised it. Also, when reducing power to land,
the RPM's don't drop appreciably until my airspeed drops. In fact, I can
pull the throttle to idle and engine RPM stays the same.
I don't have any other experience with geared Rotax engines, so this may
have more to do with the engine than the prop. A friend has Series 5 Kitfox
just like mine except with an O-200. His plane reacts to the throttle much
more like I am used to. Opposite the numbers, you can set the RPM's to 1500
and that is what the RPM stays at seemingly no matter what the speed of the
airplane is. He has a Warp Drive prop on his plane.
Maybe some one else can say if this behavior is more related to the engine
than the prop. It is taking me a while to get used to this, but it really
seems like the Powerfin prop make my Kitfox more like a cog wheel train than
like a powerboat.
I could comment that changing pitch on my Powerfin is easy and straight
forward and the blade tracking is so close that I couldn't measure any
difference between the three blades. Less than 1/32".
I am real happy with the performance. It may be the engine that I am
learning on...
Randy - N10NH
.
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dwight purdy
Subject: Kitfox-List: powerfin props
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
have not heard much if any of Kitfoxs flying with Powerfin props.I would
like to hear from anyone on pros or cons. Wanting to stay with my b box.
dwight
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| Subject: | Things to do to your Kitfox to live longer- Part 2 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
Now, my instructor, was very supprised one time because I left the crab in
and landed on one side of the runway and ended up on the other side. How do
you say it, flew into the wind and made the landing across the runway. Way
cool and ended up going into the taxiway at the end of the roll.
All he could say was, that was different. But a real nice landing without
the risk of causing a crosswind mishap, if you want to call it that. He did
teach me how to wheel land with a cross wind, a few of them felt like I was
laying on the door. Which by the way, the way my door locks started
scareing me, so I took a 1/4 inch bolt and put it in the lock and the frame
to keep the door locked. Didn't want the door opening up. I guess you can
call that one another safety modification.
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Cudnohufsky's
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Things to do to your Kitfox to live longer-
Part 2
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net>
Seems I've caused quite a stir, I agree about the crabbing on approach
during crosswind landings (I do it myself : ) ), but it is when you reach
the runway you will need to transition to a slip in order to keep the
airplane from side loading the gear. (Not a forward slip, which does seem to
excite some passengers but is a useful tool for giving up altitude without
gaining airspeed, also allot of fun to practice)
Lloyd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Zakreski" <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Things to do to your Kitfox to live longer- Part 2
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
> Crabbing is also a lot kinder on the passengers. Slips scare the
> bejeebers
> out of most.
>
> SteveZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> customtrans@qwest.net
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Things to do to your Kitfox to live longer-
> Part 2
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
>
> Wow, finally someone that has my thinking. I got chastised a few times
> for
> crabbing all the way down to landing and then straightening and doing a
> beautiful land. I generally have too much trouble having a straight
> landing
> from start to finish. Like was said, you really see what the cross wind
> is
> doing if you let it crab.
>
> steve a
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> AlbertaIV@aol.com
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Things to do to your Kitfox to live longer-
> Part 2
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
> << Taildraggers however have their CG aft of the mains so a sloppy
> approach
> (Crabbed) will result in the tail of the aircraft being forced into the
> direction of the landing making the crabbed approach worse and inducing a
> ground loop. With that said what is the proper approach method for
> crosswind
> landings, >>
>
> Well, I have discussed this subject with an old tailwheel instructor
> friend
> and we both kind of agree that making the approach in a crab gives the
> pilot
> some unknown information. With practice, it tells you how much crosswind
> you
> are dealing with (angle of crab). Normally, as you dip below the trees,
> you
> will see the crab angle reduce again, telling you how much crosswind you
> have at
> lower levels (closer to the runway). Prior to a flare, straighten the
> airplane and convert to a wing low/slip for the touch down. In other
> words,
> combine
> both methods and learn on the way down what you have to deal with. So,
> rather
> than call the crab a sloppy approach, I prefer to look at it as an
> educational approach. Of course, you wouldn't want to touch down in a
> crab.
> That could
> turn back to sloppy real quick.
>
> Don Smythe
> N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Greame,
There have been two methods that have been used to secure the loops in the
bungees. 1. Safety wire over a tape ant--chafe layer. 2. Firesleeve
clamps. Both of these methods will give a much smaller fastener making
threading the bungees much easier.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Bungies
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Hi Guys, I have a ktfox model 1 and will need to replace the bungies
shortly. Im pretty sure there isnt anywhere in Australia that sells them so
thought I might ask for advice from the list as to any retail outlets in the
states or elsewhere that would ship to Aus. Failing this being a practicle
option has anyone made them themselves?. Im sure I could get them swagged if
I new what the material is that there made of and the right length. Also,
there are quite a few Skyfox's around whcih use the same setup. Does anyone
know if the bungies for them would suit a fox.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Graeme
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: powerfin props |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Randy,
Two friends had the Powerfin in front of 912 UL's. both had great climb as
you are experiencing. Both feel they lost a little cruise. Mark pitched
his to give him 2800 rpm at maximum throttle in level flight. His strip was
at about 40 ft. msl.
They both also sent the props back to PowerFin to cut an inch off each prop
blade. This seemed to help in cruise a little. Larry went back to his GSC.
Mark kept his PowerFin and in fact installed it on his new Speedster.
They are easy to adjust and very smooth running as I understand.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: powerfin props
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
<rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
> Dwight,
> I have a 72" 3 blade "F" Powerfin on my 912S. I don't have much time on
it,
> but have a few observations.
>
> Even at a 4000' airport, it has great thrust and gets off the ground very
> quickly. I have added more pitch three times now and may add more soon.
One
> thing that really strikes me that the prop really seems to have little
> slippage in the air. If I set up for cruise, and then change the trim
> slightly, the RPM on the engine will change by 200 up or down depending
upon
> whether I lowered the nose or raised it. Also, when reducing power to
land,
> the RPM's don't drop appreciably until my airspeed drops. In fact, I can
> pull the throttle to idle and engine RPM stays the same.
>
> I don't have any other experience with geared Rotax engines, so this may
> have more to do with the engine than the prop. A friend has Series 5
Kitfox
> just like mine except with an O-200. His plane reacts to the throttle
much
> more like I am used to. Opposite the numbers, you can set the RPM's to
1500
> and that is what the RPM stays at seemingly no matter what the speed of
the
> airplane is. He has a Warp Drive prop on his plane.
>
> Maybe some one else can say if this behavior is more related to the engine
> than the prop. It is taking me a while to get used to this, but it really
> seems like the Powerfin prop make my Kitfox more like a cog wheel train
than
> like a powerboat.
>
> I could comment that changing pitch on my Powerfin is easy and straight
> forward and the blade tracking is so close that I couldn't measure any
> difference between the three blades. Less than 1/32".
>
> I am real happy with the performance. It may be the engine that I am
> learning on...
>
> Randy - N10NH
>
> .
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dwight purdy
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: powerfin props
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
>
> have not heard much if any of Kitfoxs flying with Powerfin props.I would
> like to hear from anyone on pros or cons. Wanting to stay with my b box.
>
> dwight
>
>
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| Subject: | Can you zero a hobbs meter? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Hello guys,
Can you zero a hobbs meter? Since I am installing a Jabiru, it could be nice to
zero mine.
Thanks in advance.
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: RECERTIFICATION OF A PLANE FOR LSA |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Allan Arthur <alnan@earthlink.net>
Jim.
Since you are the builder (not Kitfox or Skystar) you can limit the
gross weight of your
aircraft at the initial certification.
My Kitfox 5 (912S engine) was certified in the Experimental Category in
2002 with a
gross weight limit of 1232 lbs. in anticipation of the sport pilot
ruling. It meets all the
other limitations of the LSA category and can be flown by a sport pilot
with a taildragger
sign-off.
Empty weight, with a radio and minimum required VFR instruments comes
in at is
684.2 lbs. I can carry a passenger, full fuel and 50 lbs. baggage.
There is no reason to re-categorize an aircraft to LSA in order to be
flown by a sport
pilot, as long as it is certified within the same limitations as a LSA.
Allan & Nancy Arthur, N40AA
Kitfox Series 5, (912S, Warpdrive 3 blade)
Byron Airport (C83), Hangar C8
On Jan 15, 2005, at 5:06 PM, Jim Crockett wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crockett <jimc@prodigy.net.mx>
>
> The problem with this EAA statement is that it still does not
> definitively answer the question many of us Kitfox owners are
> interested
> in. That is - Can we reduce the gross weight of our Series V, 6 or 7
> to
> come within the LSA criterion for weight? Since Experimentals are
> under
> a different certification standard than the Luscombe, since the STC
> process does not apply to Experimentals, and since we are the builders
> who apply for certification, it would seem to me that there should be
> no
> technical reason why we cannot easily recategorize Experimental
> aircraft
> to LSA.
>
> The other thing I find curious about not being able to reduce the gross
> weight of certified aircraft by STC is that the FAA does this in effect
> all the time when ADs point out some spar problem or other.
>
> Jim Crockett
>
> Richard Hutson wrote:
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson"
>> <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
>>
>> This is from the EAA email letter, I have noticed several posts
>> regarding this subject and decided to share .
>> Q & A:
>> Question of the Week
>> Question for EAA Aviation Services:
>>
>> As indicated on the sportpilot.org website, standard certificate
>> aircraft might have their eligibility for LSA altered due to
>> modification by STC or field approval. I have an opportunity to
>> acquire a beautiful Luscombe 8E and would like to operate it as an
>> LSA, but the gross takeoff weight is 1400 lbs, 80 lbs too high. Maybe
>> this is a foolish question, but what are the chances of getting a
>> gross takeoff weight lowered (say roughly 80 lbs or so) by STC or
>> field approval? Any chance?
>>
>> Answer:
>>
>> No, you would not be able to modify the 8E so as to be eligible for
>> operation by sport pilots. A sport pilot must fly an aircraft that
>> meets the definition of a light sport aircraft (LSA). The definition
>> of a light-sport aircraft, as called out in 14 CFR 1.1, requires that
>> an aircraft be originally certificated and continuously operated
>> within the LSA definition. The Luscombe 8E was not originally
>> certificated within the LSA definition, nor has it been continuously
>> operated within the definition. Thus, it cannot be made eligible for
>> operation by a sport pilot, regardless of what modifications are
>> made.
>>
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| Subject: | model IV wing tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
That's what I thought. I started to answer that it
probably was Ron Carroll's plane, but then I wasn't
sure that I wasn't confusing two stories. Getting
old, memory loss and such. What's bad is that I went
over to see Ron and his plane at that time.
I thought human body "owner's manual" said that I was
supposed to lose short term memory?
Anyway, I was wondering if it wouldn't be effective to
just mask off the flapperon bearing and spray the
interior of the flapperon, foam and all, with a little
epoxy paint? Use a little spray tube to shoot it in
the slot. Then anything that gets in later can drain
out the drain hole you made without damaging the
insides. A coating of epoxy should be sufficient???
Kurt S. S-5
--- Ted Palamarek <temco@telusplanet.net> wrote:
> Kurt & Don
>
> The problem with the melted Styrofoam in the
> flaperon was discussed in around Nov/2003 under
> the heading of "Newbie Flaperon Problem" and was
> concluded on Jan 19/2004. Ron Carroll was the guy
> that had the problem.
.................
>
> Ted P
> Edmonton, Ab
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Michel,
Your cowl looks very good! I think you will like the
whole setup, once you have everything working just the
way you like. I see you are running the 45 degree
exhaust I talked about. :-)
2 suggestions:
1. Make sure you cut the holes around the exhaust
pipes large enough to allow the engine to move without
contacting the cowl. They look a little tight now.
2. If you still have engine heat problems when it is
done, you can run the exhaust out the cowl exit and
draw more air out using the exhaust infleuence to suck
more air thru. It works well because the exhaust
cooling increases as the power goes up, so it
regulates itself somewhat. You'd only have to move
the cowl outlet forward or move the exhaust aft a few
inches to make it work. Just a possible solution
close at hand if you need it.
Kurt S.
--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
> "Jose M. Toro" wrote:
> > I just received my Jabiru 220 firewall forward
> kit. My first thought was "What should I do
> > with all this stuff?".
>
> Congratulations, Jose!
>
> > I'm ready for a cheerleader Michel. Haven't seen
> pictures of your project lately.
>
> Here they are, fresh from today. Be careful, the
> paint may not be dried yet! :-)
>
> http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/left.jpg
> http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/outlet.jpg
> http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/hangar.jpg
> http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/outletClose.jpg
> http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/right.jpg
................
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
The bungees on the Model A Avid and Model I Kitfox were, I do believe,
.5 or 3/8in. exercise cord. The heavier later models began to use
regular aircraft bungee. The end loops can be made with the nicopress
if you can find it, or use the hook ends sold by ACS and others or made
by whipping. I made mine for my Avid by whipping using the instructions
in Tony Bingelis' book. It's easy enough but does take two to do it. I
put a bolt in the vise, made a loop of bungee around it and had my son
pull on the cord to streatch it which causes the diameter to decrease.
I then used nylon cord as whipping cord and ran a series of half hitches
around the two pieces for about 1.5inches, tied the end off tight and
coated the whippings with rubber cement. The free end was trimmed about
.5 in from the whipping with a single edge razor. Looks a lot nicer
than the nicopress or hooks and holds just fine.
Jerry Liles
Dee Young wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
>
>Graeme, you can order the stock from Air Craft Spruce. They are 3/8' dia I believe
and need to be 64" from loop to loop. You can also order them from Skystar
already made up. With a cc you can order from ACS right over the net. They are
easy to make with safety wire or rib stitch cord, which ever your prefer. I
have several sets in my hanger that I made up and its not that difficult to do.
Besides its good training.
>
>Dee Young
>Model II
>N345DY
>
>Do Not Archive.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Graeme Toft<mailto:msm@byterocky.net>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:50 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Bungies
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net<mailto:msm@byterocky.net>>
>
> Hi Guys, I have a ktfox model 1 and will need to replace the bungies shortly.
Im pretty sure there isnt anywhere in Australia that sells them so thought I
might ask for advice from the list as to any retail outlets in the states or
elsewhere that would ship to Aus. Failing this being a practicle option has anyone
made them themselves?. Im sure I could get them swagged if I new what the
material is that there made of and the right length. Also, there are quite a
few Skyfox's around whcih use the same setup. Does anyone know if the bungies
for them would suit a fox.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
Steve,
Stop giving me ideas, my wife doesn't like that.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Steve Zakreski wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
>John
>
>Where are you going next? Costa Rica maybe? You've been in every other
>direction.
>
>SteveZ
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RECERTIFICATION OF A PLANE FOR LSA |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
It does answer the question, once its has been certified, it cannot be
reduced. There have also been other post on there web site regarding the
same issue, and all say the same thing, "once it's is certified, it cannot
be reduced.
do not achieve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Crockett" <jimc@prodigy.net.mx>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RECERTIFICATION OF A PLANE FOR LSA
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crockett <jimc@prodigy.net.mx>
>
> The problem with this EAA statement is that it still does not
> definitively answer the question many of us Kitfox owners are interested
> in. That is - Can we reduce the gross weight of our Series V, 6 or 7 to
> come within the LSA criterion for weight? Since Experimentals are under
> a different certification standard than the Luscombe, since the STC
> process does not apply to Experimentals, and since we are the builders
> who apply for certification, it would seem to me that there should be no
> technical reason why we cannot easily recategorize Experimental aircraft
> to LSA.
>
> The other thing I find curious about not being able to reduce the gross
> weight of certified aircraft by STC is that the FAA does this in effect
> all the time when ADs point out some spar problem or other.
>
> Jim Crockett
>
> Richard Hutson wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson"
>><rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
>>
>>This is from the EAA email letter, I have noticed several posts regarding
>>this subject and decided to share .
>>Q & A:
>>Question of the Week
>>Question for EAA Aviation Services:
>>
>>As indicated on the sportpilot.org website, standard certificate aircraft
>>might have their eligibility for LSA altered due to modification by STC or
>>field approval. I have an opportunity to acquire a beautiful Luscombe 8E
>>and would like to operate it as an LSA, but the gross takeoff weight is
>>1400 lbs, 80 lbs too high. Maybe this is a foolish question, but what are
>>the chances of getting a gross takeoff weight lowered (say roughly 80 lbs
>>or so) by STC or field approval? Any chance?
>>
>>Answer:
>>
>>No, you would not be able to modify the 8E so as to be eligible for
>>operation by sport pilots. A sport pilot must fly an aircraft that meets
>>the definition of a light sport aircraft (LSA). The definition of a
>>light-sport aircraft, as called out in 14 CFR 1.1, requires that an
>>aircraft be originally certificated and continuously operated within the
>>LSA definition. The Luscombe 8E was not originally certificated within the
>>LSA definition, nor has it been continuously operated within the
>>definition. Thus, it cannot be made eligible for operation by a sport
>>pilot, regardless of what modifications are made.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Jabiru 2200 FF Kit |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Aaron" <aaaron@tvp.com.au>
Hi Michel
I have a Jabiru 2200 in my Avid speedwing. I used the standard Avid
lower cowl (somewhat modified) and made a new top cowl. On the Avid
lower cowl, there is an outlet "ramp" similar to what you have made
(though not as pronounced). I cut this ramp right back and made the
cowl bottom flush. I have my oil cooler mounted under the sump with an
air inlet infront which directs air between the sump and the oil cooler
and through the bottom of the oil cooler. All the air (cylinder and oil
cooler) goes through the outlet at the bottom of the cowl. My exhaust
pipes also exit through the outlet. I fly faster than you will, so you
*may* need the large ramp and outlet size but mine is smaller and lower
drag (without the ramp) and cools great. I never have cylinder or oil
temp problems (but do have egt problems on take off ... just installed a
size larger jet in the carby but yet to test that). You may find that
you want to reduce or remove the ramp on the outlet once you do your
first tests. Cowl look great but the ramp looks too big in my humble
opinion. Cheers
Allan
--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
>
> Here they are, fresh from today. Be careful, the
> paint may not be dried yet! :-)
>
> http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/left.jpg
> http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/outlet.jpg
> http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/hangar.jpg
> http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/outletClose.jpg
> http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/right.jpg
................
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
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| Subject: | Re: model IV wing tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 1/16/05 3:24:01 PM Pacific Standard Time,
smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com writes:
<< just mask off the flapperon bearing and spray the
interior of the flapperon, foam and all, with a little
epoxy paint? Use a little spray tube to shoot it in
the slot. Then anything that gets in later can drain
out the drain hole you made without damaging the
insides. A coating of epoxy should be sufficient???
Kurt S. S-5
>>
Kurt,
Using that Great Stuff foam, I have managed to get myself in trouble more
than once. If you spray that Stuff into a closed area it will normally bust,
break, bend or otherwise deform the basic material. In this case, the
flaperon. I can just see the flaperon busting loose and being about the size of
a
football. Ugly sight.
Do Not Archive
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Darrel's Big Trip |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Last week Darrel Morisse mentioned that he was going on a long cross country
to fly a Series 5 from Florida to his home in Michigan. Here is the rest of
the story.
Many of you already know that Dan and Laura Melnik's prize-winning Series 5
of was damaged by the recent hurricanes in Florida. Evidently it was thrown
around while inside the hangar and suffered some damage. Dan did not have
the time to fix it, so he got an insurance settlement, and sold the plane to
Darrel. Deke is now making his way home with the plane. Evidently it is
still in flyable condition. Here is his latest message telling us of his
progress.
Way to go, Deke!!
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: morid@northland.lib.mi.us [mailto:morid@northland.lib.mi.us]
Subject: Hey, just checking in.
Hi Don. Just giving you a progress report as I assume you were probabably
wondering. Arr Tampa 12th, headed with Jack to Melbourne next am and had
airplane airworthy by 1500, but couldn't fly out of there because a front
moved
in during the day and the wind picked up to HOWLING stage which grounded me
for
the next two days at Dan's place. Dan was a great host and I appreciated
that.
Managed to fly out of there finally on Sat am about 1015, but xwind was
18-22kts, low ceiling, and not very good vis. Takeoff was sporting and once
airborne there was no way I was going to go back and land in that xwind so
west
bound I went. Ceiling was low all the way, rougher than a cob, and not very
good vis, but the airplane performed great and with 125mph gs I got to
Palmetto
airport in about an hour. The reason I left under those conditions was
because
the MLB wx was forecast to get worse and Tampa wx was better with only 15kt
winds. Landing was uneventful and Jack was waiting for me and I've been
just
vedging since then and waiting for a good two day window to head north. No
pressure though so that's nice and I'm in no hurry.
If you want you can let the list know what's going on and that I bought
Dan's
airplane. I'll be taking a more or less direct line from Tampa to Michigan
and
hoping to get somewhere in the vicinity of Dayton first leg.
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| Subject: | Electrical Question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
I am wiring a radio noise filter that Skystar sells. Goes from ingnition
mod to ground. (A capacitor). It is black with a grey stripe and has
chevrons in the stripe that point to one terminal. No other markings. I
know from experience theses things are polarity sensitive. I blew the
first one. Which is ground-how do you tell? I'm electrically challenged
and need help. Thanks.
David Estapa
Woodstock, GA
S5 TD 912S N97DE
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical Question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian" <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
Hi Dave , the STRIPE is the NEGITIVE side. I just replaced a bunch on a few
circuit boards the other day, so it is still fresh in my mind.
Hope it helps,
Jay Fabian
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Estapa" <davestapa@juno.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Electrical Question
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
>
> I am wiring a radio noise filter that Skystar sells. Goes from ingnition
> mod to ground. (A capacitor). It is black with a grey stripe and has
> chevrons in the stripe that point to one terminal. No other markings. I
> know from experience theses things are polarity sensitive. I blew the
> first one. Which is ground-how do you tell? I'm electrically challenged
> and need help. Thanks.
>
> David Estapa
> Woodstock, GA
> S5 TD 912S N97DE
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New on the group |
06:20:41,
Serialize complete at 17/01/2005 06:20:41
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: r.thomas@za.pwc.com
Hi Flynn
Welcome to the list. Where about are you on the East Coast? I am in Port
Elizabeth.
I have a model II with 582. Also in PE is a model IV with 912 installed. I
believe there is also one in Port Alfred with a 912.
Not sure if you have seen, but in one of the local magazines, there are
some guys advertising the importation of kits from Skystar - to help share
costs etc. Let me know if you haven't seen it, and I will look up the
details for you.
Regards
Roger
"Flynn & Viv Elliott" <flynno@worldonline.co.za>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Flynn & Viv Elliott"
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Hi folks, I am brand new on the group ,my name is Flynn and live on the
East coast of South Africa.
I have been looking around for a new project and the KitFox seems to fit
the bill, but need some good advice.Firstly I didn't know there were so
many versions or models, what I am looking for in preference is a tail
dragger, a plane capable of 100mph cruise, and having flown for the last
six years with a Jab motor, that would be a preference. Any one flying
that kind of installation ? I may even look around for one here in S A
,what model is latest, which is good and what if any to avoid. We have a
couple of Kitfox look a likes here , the Bush Baby being a great little
plane, but all seem to use either the 582 or 912 rotax.
Also how is the factory back up and reliability,I.e do you guys get good
support when needed , having built before I know only too well how a
person can buy a kit only to find they are on there own when the dealing
is done.
Thanks in anticipation
Have a good one Flynn
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