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     1. 12:09 AM - SV: SV: Bungies (Michel Verheughe)
     2. 01:28 AM - Jabiru 2200 FF Kit (Michel Verheughe)
     3. 01:48 AM - SV: Can you zero a hobbs meter? (Michel Verheughe)
     4. 02:56 AM - Re: windshield mold (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
     5. 02:59 AM - Re: SV: Can you zero a hobbs meter? (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
     6. 05:34 AM - SV: windshield mold (Michel Verheughe)
     7. 05:45 AM - Can you zero a hobbs meter? (Michel Verheughe)
     8. 07:43 AM - Re: Engine choices (John Larsen)
     9. 07:43 AM - Re: Engine choices moreo n NSI wieght (John Larsen)
    10. 07:43 AM - Re: Model 5, Subaru and Batterry (John Larsen)
    11. 11:41 AM - Re: windshield mold (kurt schrader)
    12. 11:47 AM - Re: SV: Can you zero a hobbs meter? (kurt schrader)
    13. 12:00 PM - Re: Off List: Can you zero a hobbs meter? (kurt schrader)
    14. 12:03 PM - Re: Engine choices moreo n NSI wieght (kurt schrader)
    15. 12:19 PM - Re: Crankcase breather EA-81 (kurt schrader)
    16. 01:36 PM - Re: Things to do to your Kitfox to live longer- Part 2 (kurt schrader)
    17. 02:06 PM - Re: Crankcase breather EA-81 (William J. Applegate)
    18. 02:54 PM - Re: Things to do to your Kitfox to live longer (kitfoxjunky)
    19. 03:20 PM - Re: windshield mold (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
    20. 04:32 PM - Re: Intercom problem (Flybradair@cs.com)
    21. 04:52 PM - Re: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit (Steve Cooper)
    22. 06:42 PM - calibrating an altimeter (Clem Nichols)
    23. 06:52 PM - Re: calibrating an altimeter (Jay Fabian)
    24. 07:15 PM - Re: calibrating an altimeter (Clem Nichols)
    25. 08:16 PM - Re: calibrating an altimeter (Steve Zakreski)
    26. 08:41 PM - Re: windshield mold (Lowell Fitt)
    27. 10:15 PM - Re: calibrating an altimeter (kurt schrader)
    28. 10:34 PM - Re: calibrating an altimeter (r.thomas@za.pwc.com)
 
 
 
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
      
      > From: Jerry Liles [wliles@bayou.com]
      > The waxed whipping cord is also nice, however the nylon cord is more 
      > readily available to us landlocked types and it does the job.
      
      Of course, Jerry. But I believe waxed thread is also used in making leather horse
      gear like, saddles. ... any cowboy nearby? :-)
      
      Cheers,
      Michel
      
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| Subject:  | Jabiru 2200 FF Kit | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
      
      > From: kurt schrader [smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com] 
      > I also think you have too much cooling, but you will
      > find that out when you fly.
      
      I know, Kurt. But I was given this figure: The air-in/air-out ratio should be 1:4
      for my plane. And that's what it is. Faster planes need lesser ratio. E.g.
      the Jabiru aircraft that cruises (I think) at 120 knots, needs only a 1:1.5 ratio.
      
      > Maybe that bottom
      > outlet can be made variable from the cockpit?
      
      That would be the best, Kurt. I have very much sense for simple, mechanically operated
      controls. And I might do that but not now. I have seen too many sailors
      or pilots, having a ... project. I had a plane and it will be a flying plane
      ASAP. Improving mods will come later. As long as I can keep my new engine from
      getting too hot, I'll be happy, to start with.
      
      Cheers,
      Michel
      
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| Subject:  | Can you zero a hobbs meter? | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
      
      Hola Jose,
      
      > From: Jose M. Toro [jose_m_toro@yahoo.com] 
      > Assuming it is now 400 hours, could you wait 600 hours to get it zeroed?
      
      Yes, I could. But the problem is slightly different. When I bought the plane, it
      had 170 hours on the airframe and engine. But the Hobbs meter was showing 94
      hours. I was then told that the meter was not working. It is only now,  re-wiring
      my panel that I find the Hobbs meter was simply not connected to the master
      switch.
      So, 94 hours look silly when the plane has now 265 hours on the airframe and 0
      on the engine.
      BTW, I know that my Hobbs meter is working because I can see the digits are moving
      and I can hear the click of the instrument. But, in addition to the chronometer-like
      sound of the wheel at about 2 Hz, I also hear another sound every say,
      6 seconds. Is that normal? I can't exclude there is a fault with the meter.
      
      > If answer is yes, and it is DC, then connect a 9 volts battery to it and wait.
      
      Isn't it 12 V, Jose? To me, it looks like it is hooked directly to the 12V from
      the battery, after the master switch. If it needs 9V then I did a mistake to
      connect it to 12V.
      
      > Otherwise, you will need to do an entry in the logbook, and substract the current
      > reading to get the new engine time. 
      
      Of course. I was only hoping to avoid the math! :-)
      
      >  after removing the Rotax sticker. 
      
      Just did that yesterday night! :-)
      
      > Did you get the cooling baffles when you bought your Jabiru?  I didn't find mine
      in 
      > the wood box!
      
      Yes, Jose. But mine was not in the wood box. I got it separately, together with
      the oil cooler and the airbox. Although I think it is included in the price of
      the engine.
      I think it is very important you use the Jabiru ram-air duct. Maybe Andy forgot
      to send it to you. 
      
      Cheers,
      Michel
      
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| Subject:  | Re: windshield mold | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
      
      In a message dated 1/17/05 9:26:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
      lcfitt@inreach.com writes:
      
      << 
       Another suggestion might be to use the plastic film and then lay up several
       layers of glass over it.  I would try several test lay-ups to find a film
       that will survive the resin.  When working on a project here, I noticed that
        >>
      
          The windshield will be discarded after this project.  I thought of simply 
      using the existing install and lay up the glass on top.  However, 
      fiberglassing can get messy and I would end up with epoxy all over the plane. 
      Therefore, 
      it seems better to make a mold and then get away from the plane.  
           I'm going to try and make the front eyebrow thingie I once mentioned.  
      The compound bend area and the entire top will be glass.  Only the front will 
      be Lexan and have a gentle bend from side to side.  Also, there will be no bolt
      
      holes to secure in place.  I will probably put in one or two port holes of 
      lexan in the top section for a bit of view.
          Is there a way to reinforce plaster to make it less breakable.  For 
      instance, mixing in some sort of fiber? Or, is it strong enough as is?  One more
      
      question, how thick do you think the plaster needs to be?  The Saran Wrap is a
      
      good idea with the plaster.
      
      
      Don Smythe
      N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Can you zero a hobbs meter? | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
      
      In a message dated 1/18/05 1:48:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, michel@online.no 
      writes:
      
      << 
       Yes, I could. But the problem is slightly different. When I bought the 
      plane, it had 170 hours on the airframe and engine. But the Hobbs meter was showing
      
      94 hours. I was the >>
      
      Michel,
          Get an EIS.  Not only will you love it, you can set the Hobbs function to 
      what you want.
      
      Don Smythe
      N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
      
      > From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
      > I was wondering if "plaster of Paris" might be the product of choice 
      > or what?
      
      It is a beautiful moulding material, Don. However, be aware that it dries very
      fast.
      You should first apply a thin layer of very wet plaster. This is to avoid air bubbles.
      Then you apply several layers of medical bandage soaked in plaster. This
      is how a doctor would make a cast of your broken arm or leg.
      Another technique is to "kill" the plaster by stirring in it while it dries. The
      result is a creamy stuff that will not dry chemically but by water evaporation,
      which can take severa days. That technique is only to be used to fill small
      imperfections, etc. as it is not strong at all, and it will dissolve in water.
      Here is now I know that: As an art student in Belgium, many years ago, I made several
      cast of the breast of several young ladies. Once done, I moulded a copy
      of it in polyester and these ladies had it on their wall, as a decoration.
      I learnt a lot about plaster, polyester and ... breasts! :-)
      
      Cheers,
      Michel
      
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| Subject:  | Can you zero a hobbs meter? | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
      
      > From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
      > Michel,
      > Get an EIS.  Not only will you love it, you can set the Hobbs function to 
      > what you want.
      
      I am sure it would, Don. But I have something against computerized instruments
      and digital displays. Maybe it is because I spend most of my day in front of a
      computer.
      
      ... sometimes, I feel like riding steam-engine Kitfox toward the sunset, singing:
      "Oh give me land, lots of land, and the starry sky above, don't fence me in!
      ... "  ;-)
      
      Cheers,
      Michel
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Engine choices | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com>
      
      Hi;
      Funny you should mention Mike Harter.  I corresponded with him when his 
      NSI  lost oil pressure due to failed push rods, when his gearbox failed 
      and when his CAP went on the blink. I still have the e-mails. Later, I 
      watched him fly against other 912 powered Kitfox's at the last Skystar 
      fly-in he attended and anyone there could see he was heavy and lacked 
      performance.   He did not know what I looked like, so I went up and 
      asked him how his NSI was working. He said; "Runs great, never had a 
      minutes problem.!!!"  A lot of us will never admit publicly that 
      whatever, car, plane, bike or engine we own is not the greatest.
      If his plane had better performance, he probably could have climbed out 
      of that box-canyon and not suffered the fatal spin in.
      
      NSI AERO wrote:
      
      >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "NSI AERO" <info@nsiaero.com>
      >
      >Well said Darrel.  I talked with Mike many, many times, and never once did
      >he ever say that his plane was even close to being heavy or lacked
      >performance.  He put some 980 hours on his Fox in just 18 months,(That alone
      >has to be some kind of record) giving rides and helping anyone who asked
      >with building there Fox.
      >
      >I would like to know why fellow Kitfox builders/pilots have to resort to
      >posting miss information and/or out of context conversations as "Fact".  It
      >simple does not help anyone, but sure leaves a BIG IMPRESSION on those
      >setting on the side lines trying to make a decision on what to purchase.
      >(Maybe it's a way to help justify there own engine/prop choice)
      >
      >Lance Wheeler, Kitfox 5 & Glastar builder   
      >
      >
      >-----Original Message-----
      >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
      >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Kitfox-List: Engine choices
      >
      >
      >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" 
      >--> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      >
      >  
      >
      >>Just some second hand information on this Model IV and NSI thing.  
      >>Michael Harter put the NSI in his classic IV and mentioned a couple 
      >>times that he regretted the choice.  He was way heavy and just about 
      >>always flew over
      >>    
      >>
      >gross.  Not
      >  
      >
      >>to mention the fact that John King used to have to throttle back his 
      >>Rotax
      >>    
      >>
      >912
      >  
      >
      >>to keep from flying circles around him.
      >>    
      >>
      >
      >I have to partially agree with the above statement.  Yes, the NSI (why is it
      >always NSI?  How about Stratus, Eggenfelner, and several others?) is not a
      >perfect match for the IV because of the gross weight limitations.  However
      >there are a lot of satisfied owners of that combination, some of who are on
      >this list and I think they grow very weary of people telling them that their
      >choice was wrong. As for the last part, "flying circles around him" is a bit
      >of an exageration in that Mike should have been able to easily cruise at 110
      >with that CAP prop.  My S5 which is larger and heavier than the IV, will
      >cruise all day at 110 with 65 percent power at 4gph.  Then again, I have
      >lots of fairings.  I had several conversations with Mike via phone and at no
      >time did he even imply that he wasn't happy with his choice.  He did say
      >that he needed to take some time to fair up his struts and other areas, but
      >was having too much fun flying to take the airplane down for that long. IMO
      >the perfect match for the Classic IV is the 912S with lots of fairings. It
      >would be a real rocket.  However, the Rotax 912 has gotten very expensive
      >and many people who can't afford it are looking for less expensive
      >alternatives.  This is what "Experimental" is all about and it's been going
      >on since the 40s so lets let people experiment without having to feel guilty
      >for it. Darrel NE Michigan
      >
      >
      >advertising on the Matronics Forums.
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Engine choices moreo n NSI wieght | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com>
      
      My Airdale prototype, the Pursang, powered by a Stratus Subaru weighs 
      696 lb with 4 gal of gas and the tool kit.
      
      ~~Shorty~~ wrote:
      
      >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "~~Shorty~~" <shortnaked@golden.net>
      >
      >Ok you must have the lite weight version there Deke,
      >All i know is how many Kitfoxes with the NSI weigh under 600 lbs?
      >I have showed you m now you show me .  :-)
      >
      >Shorty   :)
      >
      >http://www.loginet.nl/europa/euroengi.htm
      >NSI Subaru
      >The Subaru engines are real beauties, well engineered and powerful. They are
      >a bit heavy but MTOW compensation for the Europa/Subaru combination is on
      >its way. We saw one in take-off at Cranfield and it really points its nose
      >into the sky, the rate of climb must be incredible.
      >
      >http://homepage.ntlworld.com/chris.sellen/May%2000%20Project%20news.htm
      >
      >Again for a weight of 123lb incl. exhaust, generator, starter etc. you get
      >80hp and low fuel consumption. Unfortunately it's still very expensive in
      >Pietenpol terms at 6991. PFA Engineering was said to be unimpressed with
      >the efficiency of its prop at 3300-rpm given our modest cruise speeds. A
      >reduction-geared version is apparently under development.
      >
      >
      >http://www.nsiaero.com/nsiaero2/3.0/3.1/3.1.1/3.1.1.17/3.1.1.17.htm
      >
      >
      >EA81-108-TBI EA81-150-TTBI
      >
      >
      >Engine Module Weight (Dry)..................214
      >lbs..........................222 lbs.......
      >
      >Typical Installed Engine Weight................242
      >lbs..........................263 lbs.......
      >
      >
      >----- Original Message ----- 
      >From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Engine choices
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      >>
      >>The exact weight for the NSI EA81 with everything including radiator,
      >>radiator hoses, cables, motor mount, tanks, etc is 232 lbs.  This isn't
      >>heresay.  I weighed it myself just so I would know for sure.  It appears
      >>that either somebody's scale is off by a whole bunch or the numbers got
      >>mixed up.  Another year and the NSI will be over 400 pounds.
      >>Deke
      >>
      >>    
      >>
      >>>The only figure I have seen comparing the 912 and the NSI EA81 was
      >>>determined by Murle Williams who owns a builders support company and has
      >>>      
      >>>
      >a
      >  
      >
      >>>number of aftermarket items for the various Kitfox models.
      >>>
      >>>He had both engine installations handy at the time.  He weighed both
      >>>      
      >>>
      >>systems
      >>    
      >>
      >>>on the same platform scale.  On the same day, as I understand.  The
      >>>      
      >>>
      >>weights
      >>    
      >>
      >>>included the engine with all components - fuel system, cooling system,
      >>>engine mount and fluids.  Everything except the cowl.  The weights are
      >>>      
      >>>
      >as
      >  
      >
      >>>follows.
      >>>
      >>>    NSI EA81    304 lbs.
      >>>    Rotax 912 UL 169 lbs.
      >>>
      >>>This might look like 200 lbs difference at first glance, but it is not.
      >>>      
      >>>
      >>    
      >>
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Model 5, Subaru and Batterry | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com>
      
      Hi;
      My Stratus weighs ready to fly right at 200 lb. and performs comparably 
      to a 912S.
      
      Trey Moran wrote:
      
      >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Trey Moran" <ffmoran@centurytel.net>
      >
      >Question for Model 5 builders or flyers with Subaru EA81 engines, preferably with
      a Stratus, but will take info on NSI.  I don't like the idea of putting the
      battery in the tail and was hoping someone has put the battery more forward
      and can provide cg info. It would also be helpful to have cg numbers, including
      weight and arm for the battery, for a plane with the forward swept wing so I
      could do some what if cg calculations.
      >
      >Trey Moran
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: windshield mold | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      
      Don,
      
      I used plaster for my scoop mold.  The problem I had
      with it was that it is heavy and deformed the mold. 
      Every time I added more plaster to fill in the sag, it
      just sagged more and I couldn't get a good level mold
      out of it.  The same will probably happen to your
      windshield.  I know it is more expensive, but I think
      a fiberglass mold just works better.  It is strong and
      light enough to full and sand to a better finish. 
      Save the plaster for smaller molds, IMHO.
      
      Kurt S.
      
      --- AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
      
      > I want to make a windshield "male" mold in order to
      > fabricate a fiberglass top which will cover the 
      > compound bend areas of the windshield.  Having never
      
      > done this, I was wondering if "plaster of Paris"
      > might be the product of choice or what?  I can 
      > visualize most of the process  but when I get to 
      > the point of removing the mold from the windshield,
      > I can see it shatter like a fine piece of glass. 
      > 
      > Any comments from you composite experts?
      > 
      > Don Smythe
      > N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
      
      
                      
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| Subject:  | Re: Can you zero a hobbs meter? | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      
      Michel,
      
      I think the Hobbs will run on 9 volts ok.  It can
      handle the difference between 9 and 12.
      
      Your meter probably counts in 10th, so a click every 6
      seconds is OK.
      
      I suppose Hobbs isn't going to make a meter too easy
      to change, or aircraft resale values could be
      effected.
      
      In the end, you may either need to run the hobbs on a
      bettery around the clock until it gets to the reading
      you want - and don't miss it!  Or just buy a new
      Hobbs?
      
      Kurt S.
      
      
                      
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| Subject:  | Re: Off List: Can you zero a hobbs meter? | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      
      Michel,
      
      Off list...  Just cause I wanted to.  :-)
      
      I would probably just take the meter apart and set the
      tumblers to zero, if I can.  If it gets too hard, just
      buy a new one is less frustrating.  I have learned a
      lot of mechanics by disassembling things.  Some I
      can't get apart without distruction and some I can't
      get together again. But I always learn and consider
      the replacement price, if I break it, as education
      expenses.
      
      I know your taxes will pump the price up some if you
      buy one.  I think we can buy one here starting at $28
      plus tax and shipping.  But I wonder what happens if
      you check eBay?
      
      OK, I jusy checked eBay for you.  Prices start at
      $5.50.  How does that effect your taxes and final
      costs?
      
      Kurt S.
      
      
                      
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| Subject:  | Re: Engine choices moreo n NSI wieght | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      
      John,
      
      What is your gross weight and can you give some
      performance figures?
      
      Kurt S.
      
      --- John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com> wrote:
      
      > My Airdale prototype, the Pursang, powered by a
      > Stratus Subaru weighs 696 lb with 4 gal of gas 
      > and the tool kit.
      
      
                      
      __________________________________ 
      http://my.yahoo.com 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Crankcase breather EA-81 | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      
      Hi Rick,
      
      I caped off that return line to the oil pan too.  When
      I had the origional breather, I also found that it had
      plenty of "milk" from water mixing with oil.  I agree
      that it isn't good to send that stuff back into the
      engine.
      
      With my new breather system I don't see much water in
      the oil.  I think it vents better sinbce I upped the
      hose size from the valve covers.  But I collect maybe
      1/2 qt of blown off oil in 2-3 hrs.  I think that my
      dipstick is wrong for this engine and that it is too
      full.  When I run it "low" there is less blow off
      loss.  I'm still working on that.
      
      In your case, if you can just catch the blowoff in two
      seperate cans, and there isn't much of it, you should
      do well.
      
      Some of the auto after-market catalogs have some good
      looking small breather cans that might work.
      
      Kurt S.  S-5/NSI turbo
      
      --- Rick <turboflyer@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick"
      > <turboflyer@comcast.net>
      > 
      > 
      >  I have found considerable water and muck in my
      > breather and vent lines. I
      > got rid of the earlier oil puking problem with the
      > breather vent mod but I
      > think this is worse from an engine operations and
      > longevity stand point. I
      > have now removed the entire modified stock system
      > and am looking at going
      > with a single puke can/breather mounted on each side
      > of the engine lower
      > than the vents on the rocker boxes. The oil drain to
      > the pan has been caped
      > for now. I found little oil in the original can
      > after almost twenty hours on
      > the new engine. If you take one of you breather
      > lines off at the rocker box
      > and water runs or drips out this is a bad thing. Has
      > anyone else experienced
      > this problem and addressed a solution. Besides I
      > don't like the idea of that
      > crud running back into the oil pan either.
      > 
      > Rick
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Things to do to your Kitfox to live longer- Part 2 | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      
      First flights and climb outs:
      
      My FAA rep sugested that I takeoff, then angle off
      downwind to parallel the runway in a position where I
      can turn back easily if the engine quits.  Turning
      into the crosswind will make the turn easier?
      
      If you stay over the runway, you have to have enough
      straight ahead to land back for it to be a safety
      support.  Once you have used up the forward runway due
      to your height and distance down the runway, it is no
      longer useful.  And to turn back requires over 180
      degrees of turn to make the runway again.
      
      But if you sidestep off the runway, you can come back
      to land straight ahead at lower altitude when enough
      is still available and turn back down the runway when
      you are higher and past more runway than what lies in
      front.
      
      That was the suggestion anyway.
      
      Kurt S. 
      
      
                      
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| Subject:  | Re: Crankcase breather EA-81 | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "William J. Applegate" <bigapple@gct21.net>
      
      Hi Troops,
      
      I'm installing an Airwolf air/oil separator on my turbo Piper Dakota.  
      It has a T/Continental TSIO-360 engine in it and I'm noticing oil on the 
      bottom of the fuselage aft of the breather discharge line.  This 
      separator uses hot exhaust from the vacuum pump to push the separated 
      oil back into the engine.  Only a small amount of pressure is used to 
      accomplish this.  The air/oil mixture must stay above the condensation 
      point to prevent water from being forced back into the engine and 
      causing corrosion.  Whatever system you decide to use should consider 
      the issue of potentially increasing corrosion in the engine.
      
      My Kitfox model 7 is still up for sale if you know of anyone who is 
      interested in purchasing a completely inventoried kit.
      
      Apples
      
      kurt schrader wrote:
      
      >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      >
      >Hi Rick,
      >
      >I caped off that return line to the oil pan too.  When
      >I had the origional breather, I also found that it had
      >plenty of "milk" from water mixing with oil.  I agree
      >that it isn't good to send that stuff back into the
      >engine.
      >
      >With my new breather system I don't see much water in
      >the oil.  I think it vents better sinbce I upped the
      >hose size from the valve covers.  But I collect maybe
      >1/2 qt of blown off oil in 2-3 hrs.  I think that my
      >dipstick is wrong for this engine and that it is too
      >full.  When I run it "low" there is less blow off
      >loss.  I'm still working on that.
      >
      >In your case, if you can just catch the blowoff in two
      >seperate cans, and there isn't much of it, you should
      >do well.
      >
      >Some of the auto after-market catalogs have some good
      >looking small breather cans that might work.
      >
      >Kurt S.  S-5/NSI turbo
      >
      >--- Rick <turboflyer@comcast.net> wrote:
      >
      >  
      >
      >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick"
      >><turboflyer@comcast.net>
      >>
      >>
      >> I have found considerable water and muck in my
      >>breather and vent lines. I
      >>got rid of the earlier oil puking problem with the
      >>breather vent mod but I
      >>think this is worse from an engine operations and
      >>longevity stand point. I
      >>have now removed the entire modified stock system
      >>and am looking at going
      >>with a single puke can/breather mounted on each side
      >>of the engine lower
      >>than the vents on the rocker boxes. The oil drain to
      >>the pan has been caped
      >>for now. I found little oil in the original can
      >>after almost twenty hours on
      >>the new engine. If you take one of you breather
      >>lines off at the rocker box
      >>and water runs or drips out this is a bad thing. Has
      >>anyone else experienced
      >>this problem and addressed a solution. Besides I
      >>don't like the idea of that
      >>crud running back into the oil pan either.
      >>
      >>Rick
      >>    
      >>
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Things to do to your Kitfox to live longer | 
       05:52:37 PM,
              Serialize complete at 01/18/2005 05:52:37 PM
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
      
      Add safety cables between the airframe and the engine.  You do not have to 
      have a high tech prop to have a blade depart.  A friend two hangers down 
      wrote off his Thorp when his wood fixed pitch delaminated and he lost a 
      blade in flight.  He almost lost the engine too. 
      
      Gary Walsh
      C-GOOT
      www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: windshield mold | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
      
      In a message dated 1/18/05 11:43:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
      smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com writes:
      
      << Don,
      
       I used plaster for my scoop mold.  The problem I had
       with it was that it is heavy and deformed the mold. 
       Every time I added more plaster to fill in the sag, it
       jus >>
      
      That is a very good point that I hadn't fully grasped yet. 
      
      Do Not Archive
      Don Smythe
      N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Intercom problem | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Flybradair@cs.com
      
        Just completed my intercom (sigtronics SPA-4S ) hookup to an Icom A-200 
      transceiver. I understand that this is not the same as yours but hopefully helps.
      
      
      
        The radio headphone input (blue) wire should be wired to the tip of the 
      aircraft headphone jack.
      
        The Transmit mic audio output (brown) wire should be wired to the ring 
      terminal of the aircraft hand mic jack. If there is no hand mic, wire it to the
      
      mic input of the radio (on my Icom this was the comm mic input wire).
      
       The radio transmit key output (white) wire should be wired to the tip 
      terminal of the aircraft hand mic jack. If no jack, wire it to key input of aircraft
      
      radio.(On the Icom this wire actually was connected to the intercom mic input 
      wire, along with the PTT  wire.)
      
        Confused?
      
        If the intercom works with no transceiver--these 3 wires that link your 
      transceiver to the intercom are hopefully the problem.
      
       Hope I did not make things worse!
      
      
      Brad Martin
      Wichita
      5 lyc-o 235
      232WB
      Done wiring
      (Trying to finish up the other thousand items!)
      
      
      In a message dated 1/17/05 5:22:24 PM Central Standard Time, Dieflyer@aol.com 
      writes: 
      > Subj: Kitfox-List: Intercom problem 
      > Date:1/17/05 5:22:24 PM Central Standard Time
      > From:Dieflyer@aol.com
      > Reply-to:kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > To:kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > Received from Internet: 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dieflyer@aol.com
      > 
      > Hello gentlemen! I'm hoping to get some advice from someone. My sigtronics  
      > intercom works fine until I turn on my handfheld Sporty's 300 radio. Then I 
      > can 
      > hear the radio faintly, but the intercom stops working. Any idea what I have
      
      > 
      > done wrong? I would appreciate any advice. Thanks
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Jabiru 2200 FF Kit | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
      
      Hey there Michel...caution about running that thing on the ground. In my
      opinion you CAN"T get enough cooling for a Jab. Are you planning on using
      the factory baffles? I broke mine in in the air as advised by Jabiru Pacific
      and Pete at USA.
      
      Steve Cooper
      Avid Mark IV
      Jabiru 2200
      N919SC
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
      Verheughe
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
      
      > From: kurt schrader [smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com] 
      > I also think you have too much cooling, but you will
      > find that out when you fly.
      
      I know, Kurt. But I was given this figure: The air-in/air-out ratio should
      be 1:4 for my plane. And that's what it is. Faster planes need lesser ratio.
      E.g. the Jabiru aircraft that cruises (I think) at 120 knots, needs only a
      1:1.5 ratio.
      
      > Maybe that bottom
      > outlet can be made variable from the cockpit?
      
      That would be the best, Kurt. I have very much sense for simple,
      mechanically operated controls. And I might do that but not now. I have seen
      too many sailors or pilots, having a ... project. I had a plane and it will
      be a flying plane ASAP. Improving mods will come later. As long as I can
      keep my new engine from getting too hot, I'll be happy, to start with.
      
      Cheers,
      Michel
      
      do not archive
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | calibrating an altimeter | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
      
      So much for zeroing a Hobbs meter....can anyone tell me if you can calibrate an
      altimeter?  If I set mine to the known runway elevation, I'm always a little
      off of the barometic pressure reported by the local AWOS.  Thanks for your help.
      
      Clem Nichols
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| Subject:  | Re: calibrating an altimeter | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian" <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
      
      Hi Clem,
      You should have a small little screw next to the dial knob. unscrew that 
      till the knob can be pulled out like a watch knob. It is a little tricky but 
      it will work. Set to the elevation and then pull the knob out to set the 
      presure.
      hope it helps
      Jay Fabian
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: calibrating an altimeter
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
      >
      > So much for zeroing a Hobbs meter....can anyone tell me if you can 
      > calibrate an altimeter?  If I set mine to the known runway elevation, I'm 
      > always a little off of the barometic pressure reported by the local AWOS. 
      > Thanks for your help.
      >
      > Clem Nichols
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      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: calibrating an altimeter | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
      
      Jay:
      
      Sounds easy enough.  Thanks for your help.
      
      Clem Nichols
      Do Not Archive
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Jay Fabian" <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: calibrating an altimeter
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian" 
      > <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
      >
      > Hi Clem,
      > You should have a small little screw next to the dial knob. unscrew that
      > till the knob can be pulled out like a watch knob. It is a little tricky 
      > but
      > it will work. Set to the elevation and then pull the knob out to set the
      > presure.
      > hope it helps
      > Jay Fabian
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
      > To: "kitfox list" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: calibrating an altimeter
      >
      >
      >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
      >>
      >> So much for zeroing a Hobbs meter....can anyone tell me if you can
      >> calibrate an altimeter?  If I set mine to the known runway elevation, I'm
      >> always a little off of the barometic pressure reported by the local AWOS.
      >> Thanks for your help.
      >>
      >> Clem Nichols
      >> No virus found in this outgoing message.
      >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
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| Subject:  | calibrating an altimeter | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
      
      How about the other way.
      
      Can anyone explain why both my GPS's consistently give a GPS altitude about
      400 feet too high against the altimeter.  The altitude on my altimeter
      matches the airdrome altitude when it is set according to ATIS.
      
      SteveZ
      Calgary
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jay Fabian
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: calibrating an altimeter
      
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian"
      <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
      
      Hi Clem,
      You should have a small little screw next to the dial knob. unscrew that
      till the knob can be pulled out like a watch knob. It is a little tricky but
      it will work. Set to the elevation and then pull the knob out to set the
      presure.
      hope it helps
      Jay Fabian
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: calibrating an altimeter
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
      >
      > So much for zeroing a Hobbs meter....can anyone tell me if you can
      > calibrate an altimeter?  If I set mine to the known runway elevation, I'm
      > always a little off of the barometic pressure reported by the local AWOS.
      > Thanks for your help.
      >
      > Clem Nichols
      > No virus found in this outgoing message.
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      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: windshield mold | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
      
      Don, I think this is a good point. I seem to remember you used the .093
      Lexan and it might sag some with plaster unless you support the windshield
      from the inside.  I tend to agree with Kurt about using the fiberglass.  If
      it was my project, I would mask thoroughly all surfaces not intended to be
      in the mold, using several layers of different materials, i.e. plastic,
      paper, plastic.  Then wax the windshield, spray on some PVA, lay up a first
      layer or two of glass.  Then add some stiffeners like half round molding or
      feathered foam shapes, to give it some stiffness, then add several more
      layers of glass.  I think when finished, I would add some 1/4" plywood in
      and eggcrate fashion to give it overall stiffness - let cure and then pop it
      off.
      
      For a great final finish on the final piece,  fill and sand the mold, wax it
      spray on the PVA and do the lay-up.  When you are done with yours, you can
      make one up for me.
      
      Lowell
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: windshield mold
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
      <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      >
      > Don,
      >
      > I used plaster for my scoop mold.  The problem I had
      > with it was that it is heavy and deformed the mold.
      > Every time I added more plaster to fill in the sag, it
      > just sagged more and I couldn't get a good level mold
      > out of it.  The same will probably happen to your
      > windshield.  I know it is more expensive, but I think
      > a fiberglass mold just works better.  It is strong and
      > light enough to full and sand to a better finish.
      > Save the plaster for smaller molds, IMHO.
      >
      > Kurt S.
      >
      > --- AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
      >
      > > I want to make a windshield "male" mold in order to
      > > fabricate a fiberglass top which will cover the
      > > compound bend areas of the windshield.  Having never
      >
      > > done this, I was wondering if "plaster of Paris"
      > > might be the product of choice or what?  I can
      > > visualize most of the process  but when I get to
      > > the point of removing the mold from the windshield,
      > > I can see it shatter like a fine piece of glass.
      > >
      > > Any comments from you composite experts?
      > >
      > > Don Smythe
      > > N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
      >
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| Subject:  | calibrating an altimeter | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      
      Hi Steve,
      
      Not sure if it is as true now, but when the GPS was
      derated by the military, the altitudes were usually
      pretty far off.  It was my understanding that in order
      to give the attention to horizontal accuracy, the
      verticle accuracy was allowed to suffer.
      
      I don't even look at my GPS altitude because it is
      usually off high like yours.  Haven't checked it in a
      year to see if it changed in accuracy.  But my
      transponder has a window that reads out the 29.92
      altitude it is reporting and I do check against that. 
      It is my rough backup altimeter.
      
      Kurt S.
      
      --- Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca> wrote:
      
      > How about the other way.
      > 
      > Can anyone explain why both my GPS's consistently
      > give a GPS altitude about 400 feet too high against 
      > the altimeter.  The altitude on my altimeter
      > matches the airdrome altitude when it is set
      > according to ATIS.
      > 
      > SteveZ
      > Calgary
      
      
                      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: r.thomas@za.pwc.com
      
      Hi Steve
      
      Good question. I did some research on this back in 2000 just after the 
      selective error was turned off.
      
      In short, the GPS uses a mathematical calculation to 'estimate' the 
      earth's shape. This estimated shape is called a Geoid. The Geoid is kinda 
      an average of all the area around you. For this reason GPS cannot be used 
      for instrument approaches to an airfield unless there is a GPS correction 
      beacon in the vicinity.
      
      I wrote a short explanation in our club newsletter, for more info check 
      out http://www.flying.org.za/news16.htm
      
      Hope that helps
      Regards
      Roger
      
      
      Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca> 
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      19/01/2005 06:15 AM
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
      
      How about the other way.
      
      Can anyone explain why both my GPS's consistently give a GPS altitude 
      about
      400 feet too high against the altimeter.  The altitude on my altimeter
      matches the airdrome altitude when it is set according to ATIS.
      
      SteveZ
      Calgary
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jay Fabian
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: calibrating an altimeter
      
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian"
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      Hi Clem,
      You should have a small little screw next to the dial knob. unscrew that
      till the knob can be pulled out like a watch knob. It is a little tricky 
      but
      it will work. Set to the elevation and then pull the knob out to set the
      presure.
      hope it helps
      Jay Fabian
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: calibrating an altimeter
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
      >
      > So much for zeroing a Hobbs meter....can anyone tell me if you can
      > calibrate an altimeter?  If I set mine to the known runway elevation, 
      I'm
      > always a little off of the barometic pressure reported by the local 
      AWOS.
      > Thanks for your help.
      >
      > Clem Nichols
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