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1. 12:04 AM - SV: calibrating an altimeter (Michel Verheughe)
2. 12:13 AM - SV: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit (Michel Verheughe)
3. 12:28 AM - Re: SV: calibrating an altimeter (r.thomas@za.pwc.com)
4. 01:28 AM - SV: windshield mold (Michel Verheughe)
5. 01:32 AM - SV: Things to do to your Kitfox to live longer (Michel Verheughe)
6. 01:36 AM - SV: SV: Can you zero a hobbs meter? (Michel Verheughe)
7. 02:44 AM - Re: windshield mold (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
8. 03:41 AM - Insurance/Flight Physical (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
9. 05:19 AM - SV: SV: calibrating an altimeter (Michel Verheughe)
10. 06:46 AM - Re: Engine choices moreo n NSI wieght (John Larsen)
11. 06:47 AM - Re: Insurance/Flight Physical (Floran Higgins)
12. 07:16 AM - unenscribe (Wisner H. Wells)
13. 07:50 AM - Re: Insurance/Flight Physical (Jimmie Blackwell)
14. 07:55 AM - Re: Insurance/Flight Physical (Fred Weaver)
15. 09:53 AM - Re: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit (Steve Cooper)
16. 10:57 AM - Re: Insurance/Flight Physical (Glenn Horne)
17. 11:17 AM - Re: Insurance/Flight Physical (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
18. 12:29 PM - Re: windshield mold (Fred Shiple)
19. 12:36 PM - Re: Crankcase breather EA-81 (Kerry Skyring)
20. 12:57 PM - Re: Insurance/Flight Physical (Glenn Horne)
21. 01:56 PM - Re: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit (Michel Verheughe)
22. 02:03 PM - Re: windshield mold and a little humor (FREDERICKSON, JOHN L [AG/2067])
23. 02:14 PM - Re: Insurance/Flight Physical (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
24. 02:16 PM - Re: windshield mold and a little humor (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
25. 02:18 PM - Re: windshield mold (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
26. 04:39 PM - Re: Insurance/Flight Physical (Glenn Horne)
27. 06:30 PM - Re: Insurance/Flight Physical (chad lively)
28. 06:57 PM - Re: SV: SV: Bungies (Jerry Liles)
29. 08:12 PM - Re: Engine choices moreo n NSI wieght (Rick)
30. 08:14 PM - Re: Crankcase breather EA-81 (Rick)
31. 08:52 PM - Delcom AIR 960 Radio (Rex & Jan Shaw)
32. 09:22 PM - Re: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit (Steve Cooper)
33. 10:21 PM - Re: Engine choices (NSI AERO)
34. 10:52 PM - Re: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit (kurt schrader)
35. 11:04 PM - Re: Engine choices more on NSI wieght (kurt schrader)
36. 11:13 PM - Re: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit (Steve Cooper)
37. 11:25 PM - Re: Engine choices more on NSI wieght (kurt schrader)
38. 11:56 PM - Re: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit (kurt schrader)
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| Subject: | calibrating an altimeter |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: r.thomas@za.pwc.com
> In short, the GPS uses a mathematical calculation to 'estimate' the
> earth's shape. This estimated shape is called a Geoid.
Indeed, Roger. My own experience from sailing around the clock with a GPS is that
the altitude (only as a curiosity, I sailed always at sea level! :-) was varying
as much as 600ft from place to place and time to time. To be honest, this
was before Clinton announced the removal of Selective Availability. It is certainly
better now.
But surely, if you check the GPS indicated altitude at your airfield, fly above
it, note your altimeter and GPS, doing it several times, averageing the values
... it could work. What do you think?
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Jabiru 2200 FF Kit |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Hello Steve,
> From: Steve Cooper [spdrflyr@earthlink.net]
> ...caution about running that thing on the ground.
Yes, I was told to be careful on the ground, which I intend to do.
> opinion you CAN"T get enough cooling for a Jab. Are you planning on using
> the factory baffles?
Yes, I am too much of a coward to experiment with anything that is not original!
:-)
> I broke mine in in the air as advised by Jabiru Pacific
I don't intend to break my beautiful engine ... :-) ok, I missed something here,
in the English aviator's lingo. What do you mean by "break? Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: calibrating an altimeter |
08:27:52,
Serialize complete at 19/01/2005 08:27:52
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: r.thomas@za.pwc.com
> Indeed, Roger. My own experience from sailing around the clock with
> a GPS is that the altitude (only as a curiosity, I sailed always at
> sea level! :-) was varying as much as 600ft from place to place and
> time to time. To be honest, this was before Clinton announced the
> removal of Selective Availability. It is certainly better now.
> But surely, if you check the GPS indicated altitude at your
> airfield, fly above it, note your altimeter and GPS, doing it
> several times, averageing the values ... it could work. What do you
think?
I guess you could Michel, but not sure if I would bet my life on it.
However if there is a correction or WAAS beacon close by, then there is no
problem.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
> That is a very good point that I hadn't fully grasped yet.
Neither did I! Kurt has a very good point, Don: Plaster (from Paris or elswhere
;-) is heavy! I am not sure your windshield will support it.
... er, how about ... papier-mache? Lots of newspaper and wallpapering glue? ...
just a thought ... maybe not a good one.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Things to do to your Kitfox to live longer |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: kitfoxjunky [kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com]
> Add safety cables between the airframe and the engine.
This is one I have considered myself, Gary. I imagine that a Kitfox without engine
will be as much uncontrolable as if missing the tail or a wing.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Can you zero a hobbs meter? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: kurt schrader [smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com]
> In the end, you may either need to run the hobbs on a
> bettery around the clock until it gets to the reading
> you want
You are right, Kurt. The best way to do it is to remove the Hobbs meter, take it
home, connect it to a 12 V source (an old ham has many of those! :-) and let
it run about one week to come to the airframe time.
That's what I will do. Thanks everyone.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: windshield mold |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 1/18/05 11:54:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,
lcfitt@inreach.com writes:
<<
Don, I think this is a good point. I seem to remember you used the .093
Lexan and it might sag some with plaster unless you support the windshield
from the inside. I tend to agree with Kurt about using the fiberglass. If
it was my project, I would mask thoroughly all surfaces not intended to be >>
Lowell,
I originally used the .093" but went to the .063" on my last change out.
It would definitely sag with weight. I think going with fiberglass could get
messy. Knowing me, I would have resin spread from the prop tips to the
tailwheel.
I think supporting the underside of the windshield might work better for
me. Using surgical wrap soaked in plaster (like Michel suggested) should make
the mold stronger without having to go too thick. I'm guessing 1/2"
thick???? The windshield at the compound bend area should be OK without support?
Then again, use some Saran wrap to isolate the aircraft tubing and shoot a bit
of
Great Stuff foam between windshield and frame
On the other hand, If you masked thoroughly as you suggested, and go with
fiberglass, the windshield becomes the mold. Once you've completed the
layup, just pop it off, clean it, fair it, paint it and, you're done.
Always a challenge
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Insurance/Flight Physical |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
I have my insurance renewal form from Falcon. I came to the block that
ask for the date of the last flight physical.......Hmmm, I have switched to
Sport Pilot and use the old drivers license method. Now, comes the little task
of telling Falcon that my last physical has expired but, go ahead and issue me
Insurance anyway under Sport Pilot.
I can see my rates double or triple due to this little statement. Has
anyone faced this dilemma yet? Has your insurance increased by switching to
Sport Pilot? Has anyone even talked to their insurance company concerning this?
I'm almost afraid to ask the question to Falcon.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | calibrating an altimeter |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: r.thomas@za.pwc.com
> However if there is a correction or WAAS beacon close by, then there is no
> problem.
Ah yes, WAAS, whenever it will be implemented over here (or, will it be LAAS?)
My GPS is WAAS compatible. I am ready! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Engine choices moreo n NSI wieght |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com>
Hello Kurt;
When I fly the under cambered wing, the plane will take off ( ele.
2550, temp 65o f. ) in about 7 seconds and touch down at 46 mph. This is
better numbers than when I fly with the conventional airfoil wings but I
can get 9 mph better top speed with the conventional wing. The rate of
climb is the same with either airfoil about 1100 fpm. The difference is
in the angle of climb. The under cambered wing is much better for
lifting you off of a short strip. The conventional airfoil is very
similar to the Harry Riblett airfoil used on the later KF planes. The
planes gross weight is 1400 lb. I can dig up a lot of numbers, but the
performance of my plane is about the same as for a Series 7 with a 912S.
I have a lot of hours in the KF 7.
When running the IVO in-flight adjustable prop, takeoff improves by one
second, top speed goes up 9 mph. I can cruise at 110 mph at 3600
rpm. and cruise fuel consumption goes down about 12%.
kurt schrader wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
>John,
>
>What is your gross weight and can you give some
>performance figures?
>
>Kurt S.
>
>--- John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>My Airdale prototype, the Pursang, powered by a
>>Stratus Subaru weighs 696 lb with 4 gal of gas
>>and the tool kit.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>__________________________________
>http://my.yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance/Flight Physical |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Floran Higgins" <CliffH@outdrs.net>
I am insured with AVEMCO and they renewed my insurance with no questions
asked and at the same rate.
Floran H.
----- Original Message -----
From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Insurance/Flight Physical
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
> I have my insurance renewal form from Falcon. I came to the block
that
> ask for the date of the last flight physical.......Hmmm, I have switched
to
> Sport Pilot and use the old drivers license method. Now, comes the little
task
> of telling Falcon that my last physical has expired but, go ahead and
issue me
> Insurance anyway under Sport Pilot.
> I can see my rates double or triple due to this little statement. Has
> anyone faced this dilemma yet? Has your insurance increased by switching
to
> Sport Pilot? Has anyone even talked to their insurance company concerning
this?
> I'm almost afraid to ask the question to Falcon.
>
> Don Smythe
> N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Wisner H. Wells" <wisnerwh@juno.com>
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance/Flight Physical |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Don
I went through Travers in St. Louis. They did not make a distinction
between drivers license or third class medical.
Contact me off list if you want to compare experience and rates.
Jimmie
----- Original Message -----
From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Insurance/Flight Physical
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
> I have my insurance renewal form from Falcon. I came to the block
that
> ask for the date of the last flight physical.......Hmmm, I have switched
to
> Sport Pilot and use the old drivers license method. Now, comes the little
task
> of telling Falcon that my last physical has expired but, go ahead and
issue me
> Insurance anyway under Sport Pilot.
> I can see my rates double or triple due to this little statement. Has
> anyone faced this dilemma yet? Has your insurance increased by switching
to
> Sport Pilot? Has anyone even talked to their insurance company concerning
this?
> I'm almost afraid to ask the question to Falcon.
>
> Don Smythe
> N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance/Flight Physical |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Don, I would simply put the actual date of your last Physical... I
wouldn't even mention Sport Pilot.. If they look at the date and decide
it's an issue, they will call you. I went thru that a few years ago when my
plane wasn't flying(I was working on it)but I still needed the insurance
because of the hangar requirements. They didn't say a word the first year,
but called me on the phone the second year. When and if they call, you can
then tell them that you "Don't need the medical" as your drivers license
does the deed.... I don't believe your rates will be affected at all...
The risk for them is lessened anyway as you won't be able to fly after dark.
Good Luck,
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Insurance/Flight Physical
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
> I have my insurance renewal form from Falcon. I came to the block
that
> ask for the date of the last flight physical.......Hmmm, I have switched
to
> Sport Pilot and use the old drivers license method. Now, comes the little
task
> of telling Falcon that my last physical has expired but, go ahead and
issue me
> Insurance anyway under Sport Pilot.
> I can see my rates double or triple due to this little statement. Has
> anyone faced this dilemma yet? Has your insurance increased by switching
to
> Sport Pilot? Has anyone even talked to their insurance company concerning
this?
> I'm almost afraid to ask the question to Falcon.
>
> Don Smythe
> N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
>
>
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| Subject: | Jabiru 2200 FF Kit |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
To Break-In or Run-In an engine. During the first couple of hours Jabiru has
a specific methodology for operating the engine. The throttle setting should
be constantly varied. Don't run it up to 3300 (max RPM) and hold it there
for long periods (read: no extended long climbouts) Use a sawtooth climb
where the RPM can be continuously changed. After Taxi back, allow the engine
to idle at 600 rpm for 30 seconds or so prior to shut down. This will allow
the engine temp to drop a little.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Hello Steve,
> From: Steve Cooper [spdrflyr@earthlink.net]
> ...caution about running that thing on the ground.
Yes, I was told to be careful on the ground, which I intend to do.
> opinion you CAN"T get enough cooling for a Jab. Are you planning on using
> the factory baffles?
Yes, I am too much of a coward to experiment with anything that is not
original! :-)
> I broke mine in in the air as advised by Jabiru Pacific
I don't intend to break my beautiful engine ... :-) ok, I missed
something here, in the English aviator's lingo. What do you mean by "break?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance/Flight Physical |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
Don,
Go and get another physical. Go to Dr. Carwell no problem in passing it.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Insurance/Flight Physical
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>
> Don, I would simply put the actual date of your last Physical... I
> wouldn't even mention Sport Pilot.. If they look at the date and decide
> it's an issue, they will call you. I went thru that a few years ago when
> my
> plane wasn't flying(I was working on it)but I still needed the insurance
> because of the hangar requirements. They didn't say a word the first year,
> but called me on the phone the second year. When and if they call, you can
> then tell them that you "Don't need the medical" as your drivers license
> does the deed.... I don't believe your rates will be affected at all...
> The risk for them is lessened anyway as you won't be able to fly after
> dark.
> Good Luck,
> Weav
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Insurance/Flight Physical
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>>
>> I have my insurance renewal form from Falcon. I came to the block
> that
>> ask for the date of the last flight physical.......Hmmm, I have switched
> to
>> Sport Pilot and use the old drivers license method. Now, comes the
>> little
> task
>> of telling Falcon that my last physical has expired but, go ahead and
> issue me
>> Insurance anyway under Sport Pilot.
>> I can see my rates double or triple due to this little statement.
>> Has
>> anyone faced this dilemma yet? Has your insurance increased by switching
> to
>> Sport Pilot? Has anyone even talked to their insurance company
>> concerning
> this?
>> I'm almost afraid to ask the question to Falcon.
>>
>> Don Smythe
>> N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance/Flight Physical |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 1/19/05 10:58:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,
glennflys@verizon.net writes:
<<
Don,
Go and get another physical. Go to Dr. Carwell no problem in passing it.
Glenn >>
Glenn,
I might do that but the Dr. I see now will pass you if you are breathing
when you walk in the door. No need to change just don't want to spend the
money if not needed. I once went almost 10 years without a current medical. No
problem updating if needed.
I just received an email from Falcon. Seems there will be no premium
change due to switching to sport pilot. At least, that's what they said.
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Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: windshield mold |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
Don,
Just putting in my two cents. In 30 years as an
orthopedic surgeon I put on a lot of casts. For such a
long span as your Fox's windshield you'll need 25-30
layers of cast plaster. Such a mass of plaster will be
very heavy for the first 24 hours until the water used
for curing evaporates.
A cast is cylindrical and can be fairly thin. Short
one sided splints can be relatively thin for short
spans, but have to get thicker quickly as the span
increases- say for a forearm splint compared to a
splint for the entire leg. From my experience, splint
material to bridge the windshield would be heavy
enough to be very unwieldy.
Fred
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| Subject: | Crankcase breather EA-81 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
Sorry I am off topic but I think Rick has opened something interesting.
Rick wrote...
>Also found this article which explains what is happening.
>
Rick I read this with interest. On my Auster I have taken the crank case
breather pipe from the Gipsy Major (inverted 4 cylinder -- dry sump) and run
it into an aluminium container which I have mounted on the firewall. I
regularly drain the oil which gathers there. But sometimes the rocker hats,
which contain their own oil bath for the rockers, seem to have an excessive
amount of water in them.
Do you think my crank case breather set up is contributing to this? The
aircraft is flown irregularly i.e. 20 hrs or so per year.
Kerry (helping build a KF S5 with 912S)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance/Flight Physical |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
Don,
If you can pass the physical you should get it. You may wont to fly
something other than your Fox, so if you can pass it get it. If you cant pay
call me I will pay for you.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Insurance/Flight Physical
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 1/19/05 10:58:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> glennflys@verizon.net writes:
>
> <<
> Don,
> Go and get another physical. Go to Dr. Carwell no problem in passing it.
> Glenn >>
>
> Glenn,
> I might do that but the Dr. I see now will pass you if you are
> breathing
> when you walk in the door. No need to change just don't want to spend the
> money if not needed. I once went almost 10 years without a current
> medical. No
> problem updating if needed.
> I just received an email from Falcon. Seems there will be no premium
> change due to switching to sport pilot. At least, that's what they said.
>
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> Don Smythe
> N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Steve Cooper wrote:
> To Break-In or Run-In an engine.
Understood, thank you, Steve.
Yes, I read several times the instructions in the installation and maintenance
manuals that come on the CD following the engine. Everything you write is
there, indeed, and it is how I intend to ... "break mine in the air" ... gosh,
I wish one could find another metaphor! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | windshield mold and a little humor |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "FREDERICKSON, JOHN L [AG/2067]" <john.l.frederickson@monsanto.com>
Just to show how one's background influences how things are interpreted,
I at first thought that a fungus was attacking windshields. I'm a corn
breeder and the only molds I have experience with are fungi that attack
corn, and of course athlete's foot. :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Shiple [mailto:fredshiple@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: windshield mold
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
Don,
Just putting in my two cents. In 30 years as an
orthopedic surgeon I put on a lot of casts. For such a
long span as your Fox's windshield you'll need 25-30
layers of cast plaster. Such a mass of plaster will be
very heavy for the first 24 hours until the water used
for curing evaporates.
A cast is cylindrical and can be fairly thin. Short
one sided splints can be relatively thin for short
spans, but have to get thicker quickly as the span
increases- say for a forearm splint compared to a
splint for the entire leg. From my experience, splint
material to bridge the windshield would be heavy
enough to be very unwieldy.
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance/Flight Physical |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 1/19/05 12:57:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,
glennflys@verizon.net writes:
<<
Don,
If you can pass the physical you should get it. You may wont to fly
something other than your Fox, so if you can pass it get it. If you cant pay
call me I will pay for you.
Glenn >>
Now you're talking, send me a check for $80. I knew that someone would feel
my pain and come to the rescue.
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N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: windshield mold and a little humor |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 1/19/05 2:04:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,
john.l.frederickson@monsanto.com writes:
<< Just to show how one's background influences how things are interpreted,
I at first thought that a fungus was attacking windshields. I'm a corn
breeder and the only molds I have experience with are fungi that attack
corn, and of course athlete's foot. :) >>
I couldn't help but crack up on this one. Good job
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N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: windshield mold |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 1/19/05 12:30:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
fredshiple@sbcglobal.net writes:
<<
Don,
Just putting in my two cents. In 30 years as an
orthopedic surgeon I put on a lot of casts. For such a
long span as your Fox's windshield you'll need 25-30
layers of cast plaster. Such a mass of plaster will be >>
Well Doc, I guess we are back to the drawing board. There's always someone
that can help with all these questions
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N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance/Flight Physical |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
To high. My Doc. only $60.00
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Insurance/Flight Physical
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 1/19/05 12:57:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> glennflys@verizon.net writes:
>
> <<
> Don,
> If you can pass the physical you should get it. You may wont to fly
> something other than your Fox, so if you can pass it get it. If you cant
> pay
> call me I will pay for you.
> Glenn >>
>
> Now you're talking, send me a check for $80. I knew that someone would
> feel
> my pain and come to the rescue.
>
> Do Not Archive
> Don Smythe
> N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
>
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance/Flight Physical |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "chad lively" <chadl@compu.net>
I recently switched my insurance from AVEMCO to Falcon, issued as Sport
Pilot with no medical, drivers license only. Rate is lower with more
coverage, was no problem dealing with Agent Jim Nelson, he is the Sport
Pilot man so I was told, phone number is 830-257-1000.
Good luck
----- Original Message -----
From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Insurance/Flight Physical
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
> I have my insurance renewal form from Falcon. I came to the block
that
> ask for the date of the last flight physical.......Hmmm, I have switched
to
> Sport Pilot and use the old drivers license method. Now, comes the little
task
> of telling Falcon that my last physical has expired but, go ahead and
issue me
> Insurance anyway under Sport Pilot.
> I can see my rates double or triple due to this little statement. Has
> anyone faced this dilemma yet? Has your insurance increased by switching
to
> Sport Pilot? Has anyone even talked to their insurance company concerning
this?
> I'm almost afraid to ask the question to Falcon.
>
> Don Smythe
> N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
Not in cowboy country Michel. I'm from bayou country - Louisiana -
alligators, muskrats, catfish, snapping turtles, crawfish and fishing boats.
Jerry
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>
>
>>From: Jerry Liles [wliles@bayou.com]
>>The waxed whipping cord is also nice, however the nylon cord is more
>>readily available to us landlocked types and it does the job.
>>
>>
>
>Of course, Jerry. But I believe waxed thread is also used in making leather horse
gear like, saddles. ... any cowboy nearby? :-)
>
>Cheers,
>Michel
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Engine choices moreo n NSI wieght |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
What reduction drive gears are you using?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Larsen
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Engine choices moreo n NSI wieght
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com>
Hello Kurt;
When I fly the under cambered wing, the plane will take off
.................
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| Subject: | Crankcase breather EA-81 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
I think the trick is to get the breather container or catch can lower than
the lines that feed it. Second is not to let the contaminated oil muck drain
back in the engine. I don't think your doing that any way. The air oil
separator or any other device will act as a still and condense moisture back
to its liquid state. Also if the flights are short and dont get the oil
temps up to 180-210 for awhile the moisture will not get cooked out of the
oil. I would recommend three month oil changes for a 20 hours years, but I
am paranoid if you haven't guessed.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kerry
Skyring
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Crankcase breather EA-81
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring"
<kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
Sorry I am off topic but I think Rick has opened something interesting.
Rick wrote...
>Also found this article which explains what is happening.
>
Rick I read this with interest. On my Auster I have taken the crank case
breather pipe from the Gipsy Major (inverted 4 cylinder -- dry sump) and run
it into an aluminium container which I have mounted on the firewall. I
regularly drain the oil which gathers there. But sometimes the rocker hats,
which contain their own oil bath for the rockers, seem to have an excessive
amount of water in them.
Do you think my crank case breather set up is contributing to this? The
aircraft is flown irregularly i.e. 20 hrs or so per year.
Kerry (helping build a KF S5 with 912S)
>
>
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| Subject: | Delcom AIR 960 Radio |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Hi ! Guys,
My friend has a Delcom radio model AIR960 and is having
trouble. Probably because he hasn't got a Kitfox. Just joking ! He has what
we call a 95-10 here in Australia. It's a Col Winton Swing Wing and it's got
a Rotax 277 in it. Don't laugh that little motor cruises at 65 knots on 6
litres an hour.
OK let's get to the problem. His radio recieves OK but with the motor at
anything above idle his transmission breaks up terrible. He uses it handheld
but has tried external antennas, mic's and headphones. My old Icom A20 and
another handheld both work OK in his plane.
Has anybody on list tried a Delcom AIR960 and if so what's it like ?
Rex Shaw
Australia
Classic MKIV/582
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Jabiru 2200 FF Kit |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Hey...there is something I've been wondering about and perhaps you could
assist me in a little experiment. After I fly for an hour or two, as I taxi
back I usually pull one ear muff up from my headset so I can listen for
anything weird on the airplane. Especially the engine. I hear a very
slightly elevated "mechanical" sound coming from the engine when it's hot.
When you get to flying your creation could you try this little test and
please report your findings? I've talked to people about this before and I
usually get something like, "Huh?" What?...do what" Uhhh, do what? I don't
really understand it...they don't seem to get what I'm after. Simply put,
"Does the Jabiru 2200 exhibit a slightly elevated metallic sound after it's
hot?". I would appreciate your reply.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Steve Cooper wrote:
> To Break-In or Run-In an engine.
Understood, thank you, Steve.
Yes, I read several times the instructions in the installation and
maintenance
manuals that come on the CD following the engine. Everything you write is
there, indeed, and it is how I intend to ... "break mine in the air" ...
gosh,
I wish one could find another metaphor! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "NSI AERO" <info@nsiaero.com>
Hello John,
The CAP 120 and 140 are available in two patterns. Rotax/NSI version 1 is
the older (Rotax up to 1995) 100 MM bolt circle with 12 MM drive lugs. The
other pattern is the Rotax/NSI version 2 and is 4.00" bolt circle and 13 MM
drive lugs with a 1.850 pilot diameter.
Hope this helps out. (Sorry for the slow reap once, still trying to catch up
from the holidays)
Have a great day,
Lance
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Engine choices
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Lance,
Needed to ask you a question regarding the Prop flange on the NSI.
What is the bolt pattern and for what size ??
Blue Skies
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of NSI AERO
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Engine choices
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "NSI AERO" <info@nsiaero.com>
Well said Darrel. I talked with Mike many, many times, and never once did
he ever say that his plane was even close to being heavy or lacked
performance. He put some 980 hours on his Fox in just 18 months,(That alone
has to be some kind of record) giving rides and helping anyone who asked
with building there Fox.
I would like to know why fellow Kitfox builders/pilots have to resort to
posting miss information and/or out of context conversations as "Fact". It
simple does not help anyone, but sure leaves a BIG IMPRESSION on those
setting on the side lines trying to make a decision on what to purchase.
(Maybe it's a way to help justify there own engine/prop choice)
Lance Wheeler, Kitfox 5 & Glastar builder
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
Subject: Kitfox-List: Engine choices
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
--> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> Just some second hand information on this Model IV and NSI thing.
> Michael Harter put the NSI in his classic IV and mentioned a couple
> times that he regretted the choice. He was way heavy and just about
> always flew over
gross. Not
> to mention the fact that John King used to have to throttle back his
> Rotax
912
> to keep from flying circles around him.
I have to partially agree with the above statement. Yes, the NSI (why is it
always NSI? How about Stratus, Eggenfelner, and several others?) is not a
perfect match for the IV because of the gross weight limitations. However
there are a lot of satisfied owners of that combination, some of who are on
this list and I think they grow very weary of people telling them that their
choice was wrong. As for the last part, "flying circles around him" is a bit
of an exageration in that Mike should have been able to easily cruise at 110
with that CAP prop. My S5 which is larger and heavier than the IV, will
cruise all day at 110 with 65 percent power at 4gph. Then again, I have
lots of fairings. I had several conversations with Mike via phone and at no
time did he even imply that he wasn't happy with his choice. He did say
that he needed to take some time to fair up his struts and other areas, but
was having too much fun flying to take the airplane down for that long. IMO
the perfect match for the Classic IV is the 912S with lots of fairings. It
would be a real rocket. However, the Rotax 912 has gotten very expensive
and many people who can't afford it are looking for less expensive
alternatives. This is what "Experimental" is all about and it's been going
on since the 40s so lets let people experiment without having to feel guilty
for it. Darrel NE Michigan
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| Subject: | Jabiru 2200 FF Kit |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Hi Steve,
I don't have the Jabiru, but this sounds like valve
play when the engine is hot. The best way I know of
to check that noise out is to run the engine with the
cowl off and, using a stethescope, listen to different
parts of the engine while it is running. Watch your
temps and that prop!
For a long time my stethescope was a long screwdriver
or wooden dowel. They work pretty well for the price.
Some people use a hose to do the same. You just put
one end to your ear and the other end against the
engine. You'll hear the clatter when you are near the
problem. Just be careful, tie it down, and have
someone in the cockpit while you listen to the engine.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- Steve Cooper <spdrflyr@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hey...there is something I've been wondering about
> and perhaps you could assist me in a little
> experiment.....
> I hear a very slightly elevated "mechanical" sound
> coming from the engine when it's hot..........
> Steve
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| Subject: | Engine choices more on NSI wieght |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
John Larsen,
Just making sure you know this question about gear
ratios is addressed to you.
Kurt S.
--- Rick <turboflyer@comcast.net> wrote:
> What reduction drive gears are you using?
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| Subject: | Jabiru 2200 FF Kit |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Thanks Kurt-appreciate the suggestion. It's something that bothers me. I
purchased this engine with only 5 hours on it...but I went ahead and rebuilt
it anyway. The bottom end was completely upgraded to match the current
version of the 2200. This added several hundred dollars up and above the
purchase price of the engine. I'd sure hate to have something happen to it.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt schrader
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Jabiru 2200 FF Kit
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Hi Steve,
I don't have the Jabiru, but this sounds like valve
play when the engine is hot. The best way I know of
to check that noise out is to run the engine with the
cowl off and, using a stethescope, listen to different
parts of the engine while it is running. Watch your
temps and that prop!
For a long time my stethescope was a long screwdriver
or wooden dowel. They work pretty well for the price.
Some people use a hose to do the same. You just put
one end to your ear and the other end against the
engine. You'll hear the clatter when you are near the
problem. Just be careful, tie it down, and have
someone in the cockpit while you listen to the engine.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- Steve Cooper <spdrflyr@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hey...there is something I've been wondering about
> and perhaps you could assist me in a little
> experiment.....
> I hear a very slightly elevated "mechanical" sound
> coming from the engine when it's hot..........
> Steve
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| Subject: | Re: Engine choices more on NSI wieght |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Thanks John,
I would certainly like to hear more about your
upgraded planes from time to time.
Your numbers mean you can carry 700 lbs, which is good
and is a better comparison to others for utility,
IMHO. You also have the power applied to 1400 lbs
max, so the performance can be compared from that
standpoint too. It would be somewhere between a
series IV and V KitFox by gross weight, but a light
Soob powered IV by empty weight.
As you said, it compares to an S-7 with the 912S.
My takeoffs are about 8 seconds at 1300 lbs by
comparison. I try to time them from the videos I
take.
My stall is about the same - 40 knots clean. But my
cruise speed is a bit slow still. I am looking at 98
mph at 6 gph. A few more fainings and a recalibration
of my ASI is in order. I think my static port has
been effected by my radiator scoop, since I now show
125 ft/min descent in level flight.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Hello Kurt;
> When I fly the under cambered wing, the plane will
> take off ( ele. 2550, temp 65o f. ) in about
> 7 seconds and touch down at 46 mph. This is
> better numbers than when I fly with the conventional
> airfoil wings but I can get 9 mph better top speed
> with the conventional wing. The rate of
> climb is the same with either airfoil about 1100
> fpm. The difference is in the angle of climb. The
> under cambered wing is much better for
> lifting you off of a short strip. The conventional
> airfoil is very similar to the Harry Riblett
> airfoil used on the later KF planes. The
> planes gross weight is 1400 lb. I can dig up a lot
> of numbers, but the performance of my plane is
> about the same as for a Series 7 with a 912S.
> I have a lot of hours in the KF 7.
> When running the IVO in-flight adjustable prop,
> takeoff improves by one second, top speed goes up 9
> mph. I can cruise at 110 mph at 3600
> rpm. and cruise fuel consumption goes down about 12%.
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| Subject: | Jabiru 2200 FF Kit |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I understand Steve,
Can you describe the sound better? The stethescope
will likely find the area of concern for you, but I
could be wrong about it being the valves. I assumned
they are mechanical and not hydraulic valves, for
example....
I just looked that up and they are pushrods. At idle,
valves clatter faster than the engine is running. You
should hear that at the valve covers pretty well.
A crank or rod bearing will hammer much slower. The
fuel pump can also tap at a slow rate.
The thing that gets me is that it does it when hot.
That usually is due to engine and push rod expansion
at different rates giving more valve noise. Also the
oil thins. That would be good since it is the easiest
to fix. Check your vavle clearance, hot or cold per
the book.
I am still just getting used to the noise my NSI
makes. Only recently did I even hear the turbo
operating.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- Steve Cooper <spdrflyr@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Thanks Kurt-appreciate the suggestion. It's
> something that bothers me. I purchased this engine
> with only 5 hours on it...but I went ahead and
> rebuilt it anyway. The bottom end was completely
> upgraded to match the current version of the 2200.
> This added several hundred dollars up and above the
> purchase price of the engine. I'd sure hate to have
> something happen to it.
>
> Steve
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