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1. 04:23 AM - Re:K7forsale (Marc Hightower)
2. 06:35 AM - Re: New: by-location weather forecast and current conditions (jareds)
3. 07:33 AM - Re: Fw: KF7 For Sale (Dave Wahlquist)
4. 08:47 AM - Re: Fw: KF7 For Sale (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
5. 11:28 AM - Re: Fw: KF7 For Sale (kurt schrader)
6. 02:30 PM - Desert Squadron (Jeffrey Puls)
7. 02:43 PM - Re: Desert Squadron (jdmcbean)
8. 04:20 PM - (Dcecil3@aol.com)
9. 04:41 PM - altitude issues (Dee Young)
10. 05:21 PM - Re: altitude issues (jdmcbean)
11. 05:28 PM - SkyStar Analysis Continued (Bruce Harrington)
12. 05:30 PM - Re: altitude issues (Don Pearsall)
13. 05:32 PM - Re: altitude issues (Dee Young)
14. 05:37 PM - Re: altitude issues (Dee Young)
15. 06:13 PM - Re: altitude issues (jdmcbean)
16. 08:07 PM - Re: altitude issues (Dee Young)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marc Hightower" <skyhightower@earthlink.net>
I can't say that I'm a real SkyStar fan. Building my Classic IV-1200 was a case
of making a silk purse from a sows ear. The kit that I received was of very
poor quality. Nothing ever fit properly and my friends would joke about how
every time they would come by my shop I was screaming about what a piece of junk
this or that part was and how much work it took to put things together. I finally
took a welding class at the local college and learned to fabricate parts
myself, because in some cases that was the only way to get parts to fit. So
I share the frustration of the guy waiting for his engine.
But, Boycotting or getting a lawyer and suing SkyStar is not the the answer.
Frank seems to be doing his best to clean up the mess left to him. When a set
of the old style wing struts rusted through after hanging on the wall of my shop
for four years, he sent me a new pair of the seaplane struts for free, including
shipping!
Before buying the KItfox, I purchased the first kit from a new company called
MoHawk, short for Missouri Hawk. It was a total piece of junk. An IA looked
at it and told me the welds were so bad that it would probably break and he would
never sign it off. In an attempt to clean up some of the worst welds they
took a grinder to them and made it worse by grinding into the tubes. I didn't
receive half of the parts for the kit and the instructions were incomplete. I
returned the kit and demanded my money back. He ended up selling the kit to someone
else and never returned my money. I got an Attorney, sued him and won. His
response was to fold up the company an thumb his nose at me. I not only lost
the price of the kit, but also the cost of an Attorney and years of frustration
while attempting to collect.
While building my Kitfox, I wanted to sell it many a time, but here is a light
at the end of the tunnel. After six years and 3300 hours of construction I
discovered that flying a Kitfox is a lot more fun than building it and I'm glad
that I hung in there.
Marc Hightower
skyhightower@earthlink.net
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
WOW thanks for sharing that is very cool with no effort at all.
Will have to look into having it as my home page!!!
Clem Nichols wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: KF7 For Sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave Wahlquist <wahlquist@ics.uwex.edu>
All,
I have been thinking about the Skystar situation and trying to think of any
ideas that would help them out.
The idea of Frank or someone from Skystar posting on here on a regular
basis I think would help out. We as Kitfox builders and owners are the best
sales people they will ever find.
One other thing that has bothered me personally is that I have purchased
parts from people on this list,Ebay, etc. instead of from Skystar because I
had more faith in the availability of that part from a person I have never
meet than from the company that manufactured the parts for my plane. Not a
good situation for me or Skystar.
Maybe if Skystar posted on here or their web site all parts they have in
stock, with the quantity they may generate some sales. I would have
personally purchased probably $1000.00 of parts in the last year or so if I
had hard numbers on the quantity in stock at Skystar. If stock of items are
getting low just watch how fast they sell also. Maybe its time for the
Skystar garage sale?
Just some thoughts.
do not archive
At 04:41 PM 2/8/2005 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
>
>I HAVE PERMISSION FROM CRYSTAL TO FORWARD THE EMAIL TO THE LIST.
>After I got this email, I called Crystal to see what's up. From the
>conversation, neither Crystal or Frank are happy about what has transpired.
>there are people who have gotten their engines, they started with oldest
>first, which is the way it should be.
>Its seems that all of the investors want one thing before investing in
>Skystar "FILE BANKRUPTCY AND START OVER". Skystar refuses to do this, their
>goal is to work thru this and give every customer what is due to them.
>Crystal also stated they are attempting to secure loans to pay for the past
>due parts.
>In talking with her, I ask to have Frank get on this list and let everyone
>where things are and what the plans are for the future. If he could take a
>few minutes each week to post an update on the company, I think this would
>negate some the problems.
>Two closing comments, (1) I could tell by Crystal voice the frustration she
>feels about this problem. (2)If someone hires a lawyer to go after Skystar,
>that will put them into Bankruptcy simply because they do have the capital
>to fight a legal battle. Everyone waiting lost parts would lose and the
>investors would win.
>
>These are my personal thoughts after speaking to Crystal and I am in no way
>contected to Skystar.
>Crystal,s email follows.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Crystal Loveland" <crystalr@skystar.com>
>To: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
>
>
>Richard,
>
>I will forward this to Frank and see what we can come up with.
>I see that someone has already posted our response that we put out
>for Kitplanes Magazine. We are trying our best to work our way out of
>an unfortunate situation and to take care of all the engine customers.
>However,
>it has not been an easy task most investors are wanting us to take out
>bankruptcy
>which we are not willing to do. I see a lot of talk on the list about
>lawyers and that makes me sad because all that will do is force us into
>a bankruptcy
>which is not what Frank and I want to. We want to supply everyone with
>everything
>that we owe them without going through what many of the other company's
>in this
>industry have done. We are open to suggestions if any one has any ideas
>to help speed
>this process along faster without putting us into bankruptcy.
>I am saddened by Rogers decision to sell his Kitfox as I have spoke with
>him numerous
>times and have tried to tell him to hang in there that hopefully it will
>not be much longer
>I understand his frustration and I hope that everyone understands that
>this is frustrating
>for us also.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Richard Hutson [mailto:rhutson@midsouth.rr.com]
>To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
>Subject: Fw: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
>
>
>Crystal, you might want to address this on the kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
>list. Mr McConnell seems to be an unhappy customer.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
> > <rdmac@swbell.net>
> >
> > Attention Fellow Listers,
> >
> > It is with deep regret and sadness that I have decided to
> > put
> > my
> > Model 7 up for sale. The sole reason I'm doing this is entirely do to
>the
> > fact that I will probable never see the Rotax engine I ordered for
>this
> > plane. Because of Sky Star's inability or unwillingness to fulfill
>there
> > obligations to this customer I am ready to give up on ever completing
>this
> > project. My desire to end this night mare relationship with SS is
>greater
> > than the desire to build and own this fine little plane. I feel I have
>
> > been
> > given no other alternative. What SS has chosen to do is sacrifice the
>19
> > or
> > so customers waiting on engines in order to stay in business for the
>rest
> > of
> > there customers, period.
> >
> > If I can get what I feel I need to have for this plane then I will
> > look on the internet for a good little C152. I might even be willing
> > to trade for a good C152 with a fairly low time engine and some where
> > between 20 and 30 years old if it's in good shape. If anybody on the
> > list is interested or knows someone that might be in owning a Model 7
> > that is for the most part 80% to 85% complete and ready for a Rotax
> > 912S engine, you can go to the link below and see what I have to
> > offer. I have made every effort to build this plane exactly according
> > to the manual and feel it will make someone a heck of a good little
> > airplane. Kind regards, and Happy Landings to All.
> >
> >
> > Roger Mac
> >
> > http://www.aerotraderonline.com/addetail.html?78025696
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: KF7 For Sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 2/9/05 7:34:20 AM Pacific Standard Time,
wahlquist@ics.uwex.edu writes:
<< Maybe if Skystar posted on here or their web site all parts they have in
stock, with the quantity they may generate some sales. I would have
personally purchased probably $1000.00 of parts in the last year or so if I
had hard numbers on the quantity in stock at Skystar. If stock of items are
getting low just watch how fast they sell also. Maybe its time for the
Skystar garage sale?
Just some thoughts.
>>
Some of you may remember not long ago, I was trying to sell off parts and
materials so the business I work for could keep their heads above water. At
first, my employer was in earnest agreement (any idea was great). As a few
orders started to come in, they got nervous and less willing to sell off stock.
I simply put a stop to the idea.
After thinking about this a little, selling off a simple Altimeter or
two, maybe a quad gauge would only have been a drop in the bucket. Face it, if
I
sold $1,000 worth of parts per month, that wouldn't even pay the hanger rent
much less all the other expenses. In our case, we needed to sell a kit or
two. There is profit built into that and the amount of money would keep the ship
floating for several months. I don't know SS's situation but have a feeling
it might be similar to what I see here every day.
This Experimental aviation business seems to be in the pits right now.
Even on good years, I don't think many people in this business got rich. It's
my opinion, people get into this experimental aircraft business because they
love the smell of Poly Dope more than money. I once asked a senior Commercial
Airline Pilot (Amy Laboda's husband) about his career. He commented, "One has
to eat an awful lot of beans before he gets in the left seat of a 747").
Maybe some of our Airline pilots might agree with that statement.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: KF7 For Sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Just from my personal experience, I thought that SS
fell into a final failure mode for certain after
losing John McBean. I would like to keep positive as
much as possible toward SS, but when John left, I took
it as seeing the best man I knew of on the inside
leaving and telling me there is something I should
know too.
I am concerned that SS, while great at aircraft and
aviation, was missing good business knowledge and
hasn't gathered enough of that yet to recover. You
need the right people, the right product, and the
right service in that order. The right product by
itself won't do it.
The right people means you also need someone who knows
business and money management to keep solvant. They
have to be tight and hard nosed. Who does that for SS
now?
Of course you need good staff. Good welders are
essential. Office staff, inventory, shipping all need
to be the best you can get. SS did pretty well there
in the past I think. The product we did get was good.
But you need someone like John to sell and resell. To
communicate with you. Who does that now?
I hope SS makes it, but let's see the hard nose,
fiscally tight, people person, boss speak up.
Just another opinion.
Do not archive
Kurt S.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
What airport is the desert squadron based in Arizona? Jeff Classic IV
Jeffrey Puls
pulsair@mindspring.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Jeffrey,
Visit www.desertfoxsquadron.org there is info there. You may want to
contact them before flying in as they are not always there.. it is an
airpark.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Puls
Subject: Kitfox-List: Desert Squadron
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
What airport is the desert squadron based in Arizona? Jeff Classic IV
Jeffrey Puls
pulsair@mindspring.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
Guy Bucannon wrote: Hire a lawyer?
Well Guy that could be one way of doing it.
or to a struggleing Co. Like Skystar it could send to them a message ? A message
to bankrupt? If they are really trying to get it together they don't need alot
of crap right now and just maybe those that have paid for engines or parts
will get them or their money back if they wait alittle bit? but if the courts
slam down a judgment, bet I know what they will do...
By By Skystar. Catch 22 aint it? They got them by the Nads I just hope it all works
out
Good Luck David Cecil
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Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:38:17 -0700
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
When doing the preflight I set my altimeter to the field elevation. Once I begin
my run down the airstrip I have noticed that most times it will drop from 4,900
to 46 or 4,700 ft. The altimeter appeared to be used but was what came with
the plane. I was up flying today and the same thing happened. I reset it while
running down the stip and once up to approx. 1,000 AGL it was bouncing around
5,000 ft. So is my altimeter shot or what? Help me out here.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
Do Not Archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Dee,
Check the static port opening..
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dee Young
Subject: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
When doing the preflight I set my altimeter to the field elevation. Once I
begin my run down the airstrip I have noticed that most times it will drop
from 4,900 to 46 or 4,700 ft. The altimeter appeared to be used but was what
came with the plane. I was up flying today and the same thing happened. I
reset it while running down the stip and once up to approx. 1,000 AGL it was
bouncing around 5,000 ft. So is my altimeter shot or what? Help me out here.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | SkyStar Analysis Continued |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
Hi Kurt,
Nice analysis, but I think one very important thing needed that has been
missing since Phil and his sister sold SkyStar is Capital. Had there been
enough capital, Ed and the crew would have had insurance, and recovered from
the C-182 debacle. Then the downturn would have been a bit easier to get
thru, and John might still be there.
IMHO.
Cheers,
bh
> Just from my personal experience, I thought that SS
> fell into a final failure mode for certain after
> losing John McBean. I would like to keep positive as
> much as possible toward SS, but when John left, I took
> it as seeing the best man I knew of on the inside
> leaving and telling me there is something I should
> know too.
>
> I am concerned that SS, while great at aircraft and
> aviation, was missing good business knowledge and
> hasn't gathered enough of that yet to recover. You
> need the right people, the right product, and the
> right service in that order. The right product by
> itself won't do it.
>
> The right people means you also need someone who knows
> business and money management to keep solvant. They
> have to be tight and hard nosed. Who does that for SS
> now?
>
> Of course you need good staff. Good welders are
> essential. Office staff, inventory, shipping all need
> to be the best you can get. SS did pretty well there
> in the past I think. The product we did get was good.
>
> But you need someone like John to sell and resell. To
> communicate with you. Who does that now?
>
> I hope SS makes it, but let's see the hard nose,
> fiscally tight, people person, boss speak up.
>
> Just another opinion.
>
> Do not archive
>
> Kurt S.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Hi Dee,
This could be a static source problem, not an altimeter problem. Do you have
a static source vent? Or is the altimeter not vented?
When the plane is going, there will be some ambient pressure changes going
on inside the cabin, and it could either be pressurized or even
de-pressurized. It sounds like you are saying that the altimeter is
registering lower than it should. That means that there is less pressure
inside the cabin than outside in still air. In any event, it should not be
"bouncing", but be pretty steady and make changes very slowly.
You could borrow someone else's altimeter to check, but the easiest thing to
check is your static system, if you have one.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
Subject: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
When doing the preflight I set my altimeter to the field elevation. Once I
begin my run down the airstrip I have noticed that most times it will drop
from 4,900 to 46 or 4,700 ft. The altimeter appeared to be used but was what
came with the plane. I was up flying today and the same thing happened. I
reset it while running down the stip and once up to approx. 1,000 AGL it was
bouncing around 5,000 ft. So is my altimeter shot or what? Help me out here.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: altitude issues |
Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:31:50 -0700
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
It has never occurred to me to check the static port opening. I will do that,
thanks for the idea.
Dee
----- Original Message -----
From: jdmcbean<mailto:jdmcbean@cableone.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 6:20 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net<mailto:jdmcbean@cableone.net>>
Dee,
Check the static port opening..
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com<http://www.sportplanellc.com/>
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dee Young
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com<mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com>>
When doing the preflight I set my altimeter to the field elevation. Once I
begin my run down the airstrip I have noticed that most times it will drop
from 4,900 to 46 or 4,700 ft. The altimeter appeared to be used but was what
came with the plane. I was up flying today and the same thing happened. I
reset it while running down the stip and once up to approx. 1,000 AGL it was
bouncing around 5,000 ft. So is my altimeter shot or what? Help me out here.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: altitude issues |
Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:36:34 -0700
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
I have the static port installed up mid way and just in front of the left cabin
door. Could this installation be causing my problem?
Dee
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From: Don Pearsall<mailto:donpearsall@comcast.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net<mailto:donpearsall@comcast.net>>
Hi Dee,
This could be a static source problem, not an altimeter problem. Do you have
a static source vent? Or is the altimeter not vented?
When the plane is going, there will be some ambient pressure changes going
on inside the cabin, and it could either be pressurized or even
de-pressurized. It sounds like you are saying that the altimeter is
registering lower than it should. That means that there is less pressure
inside the cabin than outside in still air. In any event, it should not be
"bouncing", but be pretty steady and make changes very slowly.
You could borrow someone else's altimeter to check, but the easiest thing to
check is your static system, if you have one.
Don Pearsall
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com<mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com>>
When doing the preflight I set my altimeter to the field elevation. Once I
begin my run down the airstrip I have noticed that most times it will drop
from 4,900 to 46 or 4,700 ft. The altimeter appeared to be used but was what
came with the plane. I was up flying today and the same thing happened. I
reset it while running down the stip and once up to approx. 1,000 AGL it was
bouncing around 5,000 ft. So is my altimeter shot or what? Help me out here.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Dee,
Just port it directly behind the instrument.. Turn the tubing down or put
a
90 off the back of the instrument.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dee Young
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
I have the static port installed up mid way and just in front of the left
cabin door. Could this installation be causing my problem?
Dee
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Pearsall<mailto:donpearsall@comcast.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
<donpearsall@comcast.net<mailto:donpearsall@comcast.net>>
Hi Dee,
This could be a static source problem, not an altimeter problem. Do you
have
a static source vent? Or is the altimeter not vented?
When the plane is going, there will be some ambient pressure changes going
on inside the cabin, and it could either be pressurized or even
de-pressurized. It sounds like you are saying that the altimeter is
registering lower than it should. That means that there is less pressure
inside the cabin than outside in still air. In any event, it should not be
"bouncing", but be pretty steady and make changes very slowly.
You could borrow someone else's altimeter to check, but the easiest thing
to
check is your static system, if you have one.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matro
nics.com>
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young"
<henrysfork1@msn.com<mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com>>
When doing the preflight I set my altimeter to the field elevation. Once I
begin my run down the airstrip I have noticed that most times it will drop
from 4,900 to 46 or 4,700 ft. The altimeter appeared to be used but was
what
came with the plane. I was up flying today and the same thing happened. I
reset it while running down the stip and once up to approx. 1,000 AGL it
was
bouncing around 5,000 ft. So is my altimeter shot or what? Help me out
here.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
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| Subject: | Re: altitude issues |
Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:03:00 -0700
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Thanks guys for your help.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
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----- Original Message -----
From: jdmcbean<mailto:jdmcbean@cableone.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 7:12 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net<mailto:jdmcbean@cableone.net>>
Dee,
Just port it directly behind the instrument.. Turn the tubing down or
put a
90 off the back of the instrument.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com<http://www.sportplanellc.com/>
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dee Young
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com<mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com>>
I have the static port installed up mid way and just in front of the left
cabin door. Could this installation be causing my problem?
Dee
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Pearsall<mailto:donpearsall@comcast.net<mailto:donpearsall@comcast.net>>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
<donpearsall@comcast.net<mailto:donpearsall@comcast.net<mailto:donpearsall@comcast.net<mailto:donpearsall@comcast.net>>>
Hi Dee,
This could be a static source problem, not an altimeter problem. Do you
have
a static source vent? Or is the altimeter not vented?
When the plane is going, there will be some ambient pressure changes going
on inside the cabin, and it could either be pressurized or even
de-pressurized. It sounds like you are saying that the altimeter is
registering lower than it should. That means that there is less pressure
inside the cabin than outside in still air. In any event, it should not be
"bouncing", but be pretty steady and make changes very slowly.
You could borrow someone else's altimeter to check, but the easiest thing
to
check is your static system, if you have one.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matro<mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matro>
nics.com>
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>>
Subject: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young"
<henrysfork1@msn.com<mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com<mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com<mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com>>>
When doing the preflight I set my altimeter to the field elevation. Once I
begin my run down the airstrip I have noticed that most times it will drop
from 4,900 to 46 or 4,700 ft. The altimeter appeared to be used but was
what
came with the plane. I was up flying today and the same thing happened. I
reset it while running down the stip and once up to approx. 1,000 AGL it
was
bouncing around 5,000 ft. So is my altimeter shot or what? Help me out
here.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
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