Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:52 AM - Re: altitude issues (kurt schrader)
2. 01:56 AM - 582 oil injectors (BROSCHART)
3. 03:51 AM - ordering security (Herb Fuhrer)
4. 05:25 AM - Re: 582 oil injectors (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
5. 05:28 AM - Re: altitude issues (Dee Young)
6. 05:30 AM - SV: ordering security (Michel Verheughe)
7. 07:46 AM - Oil Injection Concern (David Savener)
8. 08:02 AM - Re: altitude issues (Ted Palamarek)
9. 08:02 AM - Re: Oil Injection Concern (Pete Sigrist)
10. 08:06 AM - Re: 582 oil injectors (Marco Menezes)
11. 08:14 AM - More questions (Nate Free)
12. 08:16 AM - Re: Oil Injection Concern (David Savener)
13. 08:24 AM - Re: More questions (W Duke)
14. 08:33 AM - Re: Stall Speed & AOA (EMAproducts@aol.com)
15. 08:48 AM - Re: More questions (jdmcbean)
16. 11:02 AM - Re: More questions (kurt schrader)
17. 11:29 AM - Re: altitude issues (kurt schrader)
18. 11:51 AM - Re: More questions ()
19. 11:54 AM - Re: altitude issues (Dee Young)
20. 01:16 PM - Re: KF7 For Sale (Gary Randall)
21. 01:26 PM - Airdale double tailspring (Marco Menezes)
22. 01:31 PM - Re: KF7 For Sale (jim rodenkirk)
23. 01:38 PM - Re: KF7 For Sale (Gary Algate)
24. 01:49 PM - 912S Exhaust system mods (kitfoxjunky)
25. 01:51 PM - Re: KF7 For Sale (Fox5flyer)
26. 02:01 PM - Re: KF7 For Sale (Don Pearsall)
27. 02:13 PM - Re: KF7 For Sale (Michel Verheughe)
28. 02:48 PM - Re: Oil Injection Concern (Pete Sigrist)
29. 02:53 PM - Re: KF7 For Sale (Pete Sigrist)
30. 02:59 PM - Re: KF7 For Sale (Donna and Roger McConnell)
31. 03:16 PM - KF7 (hausding, sid)
32. 03:44 PM - Re: Oil Injection Concern (David Savener)
33. 03:45 PM - Re: KF7 For Sale (The Gaskills)
34. 03:47 PM - Re: 582 oil injectors (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
35. 03:49 PM - Re: Oil Injection Concern (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
36. 03:50 PM - Re: KF7 For Sale (Steve Cooper)
37. 04:32 PM - Static Port (Rex & Jan Shaw)
38. 07:08 PM - Re: KF7 For Sale (Grant Fluent)
39. 08:42 PM - Re: KF7 For Sale (Gary Randall)
40. 11:16 PM - Re: Desert Squadron (Jeffrey Puls)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Dee,
Also make sure there isn't any water trapped in your
static line. A little water sloshing could mess up
your readings.
Do you have a VSI and what is it doing during all
this?
Kurt S.
--- jdmcbean <jdmcbean@cableone.net> wrote:
> Dee,
> Check the static port opening..
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> -----Original Message-----
> Dee Young
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
>
> When doing the preflight I set my altimeter to the
> field elevation. Once I
> begin my run down the airstrip I have noticed that
> most times it will drop from 4,900 to 46 or 4,700 ft.
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| Subject: | 582 oil injectors |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: BROSCHART <cfbflyer@localnet.com>
is there a way to verify that the oil injectors on a 582 rotax are
working before running the engine
thanks Charlie
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| Subject: | ordering security |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Herb Fuhrer" <aerobat02@adelphia.net>
there is now another option, that helps Skystar cause the parts come from there,
but is safe since the "middleman" pulls no shananigans. Airdale ( Jerry Matison
& Steve Winder ) is located just down the way from Skystar now, and Steve
told me they can get parts and ship 'em - same price. Steve, for those that
don't know him, is straight as an arrow, and as knowledgeable as any.
Recently I ordered 4 pieces of KF leading edge from Crystal for my Avid. Knew
when I did it I may become a statistic. I was relieved when the package came.
But they got me in the end, cause when the package contained just 2 pieces,
they charged me shipping again to correct their mistake.
Wish I'd have known I could've got them thru Airdale. Live-n-learn. Herb Fuhrer
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| Subject: | Re: 582 oil injectors |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 2/10/05 5:07:26 AM Pacific Standard Time,
cfbflyer@localnet.com writes:
<<
is there a way to verify that the oil injectors on a 582 rotax are
working before running the engine
thanks Charlie
>>
Charlie,
Not to my knowledge. The recommended procedure for initial start up is
to premix some gas in the wing tanks at 100:1 ratio. This will supply some oil
in case the engine injector is not working. Also provides some extra oil
during the first hour of run time.
Do a good vent on the oil injector a couple times before startup and
make sure you have a good flow. Also squeeze the oil lines to help force out any
air.
That should do it. The injectors have a great history of working good.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: altitude issues |
Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:27:03 -0700
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Kurt
I was processing this (VSI) last night and was asking myself the same question.
The VSI works fine with a steady needle in all conditions. I know it is good
as I purchased it new from ACS. Also the static line is clear. So what does this
tell us?
Dee
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----- Original Message -----
From: kurt schrader<mailto:smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:51 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com<mailto:smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>>
Dee,
Also make sure there isn't any water trapped in your
static line. A little water sloshing could mess up
your readings.
Do you have a VSI and what is it doing during all
this?
Kurt S.
--- jdmcbean <jdmcbean@cableone.net<mailto:jdmcbean@cableone.net>> wrote:
> Dee,
> Check the static port opening..
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> -----Original Message-----
> Dee Young
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
>
> When doing the preflight I set my altimeter to the
> field elevation. Once I
> begin my run down the airstrip I have noticed that
> most times it will drop from 4,900 to 46 or 4,700 ft.
__________________________________
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| Subject: | ordering security |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
... while on the subject (and nothing to do with Skystar), when I ordered my camlock
fasteners from Aircraft Spruce, I received one that didn't hold in place.
After close inspection, it revealed that its shaft was longer and the spring
didn't pull it back as it should.
Very stupid of me not to order a couple of spares when they cost only about 90
cents, I admit, but a new cowling with a missing camlock is eyesore.
So I wrote to Aircraft Spruce explaining and asking them to put a camlock fastener
in an enveloppe and send it to me and ... they did it, excusing themselve
for that assembly error on that tiny cheap device.
... Just to write not only about problems but also good experiences!
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Oil Injection Concern |
Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:41:01 -0600
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Savener" <david_savener@msn.com>
I just ran my 582 with oil injection for the first time, after pulling out a 532
without oil injection. I mixed the fuel 100 to 1 as per the instructions.
I can see oil moving slowly through one of the oil injection tubes.(There was a
small air bubble in the tube moving slowly toward the engine). The other tube
seems to be nearly empty.
How can I prime the empty injection tube? Should it fill by itself? That doesn't
seem to be happening. Any ideas??
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
Dee
I believe you said that your altimeter was a used one, and I
assume you have investigated the suggestions that have be
posted by others on the list regarding your problem. If none
of them have cleared up you problem --- then I would highly
suspect that you have a problem with meshing of the various
gears inside the unit. Does the problem occur at random
places on the dial as the hands move while incrementing
upward or downward. If the problem occurs near the same dial
location (for example, while passing the 2 digit) on either
of the two moving hands (whether ascending or descending)
then it will most probably be the internal gearing.
I have an old unit out of a wreck that does exactly that.
Passing 2 it stalls then jumps about 2-3 hundred feet and
continues, does the same coming down. One day I'm going to
take it apart to see exactly how they gear the air chamber
movement to the hands --- then deep six it.
Just another thought!!
Ted Palamarek
Edmonton, Ab
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Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
Kurt
I was processing this (VSI) last night and was asking myself
the same question. The VSI works fine with a steady needle
in all conditions. I know it is good as I purchased it new
from ACS. Also the static line is clear. So what does this
tell us?
Dee
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Injection Concern |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Pete Sigrist" <psigrist@cox.net>
You don't prime it, you bleed it. Look for the small bolt head (about 10mm)
sticking out horizontally at the oil pump. Loosen the bolt until you have a
steady flow of oil coming out, then retighten. Also mark oil level on oil
tank so you can see if oil is flowing.
pete Rans S-12, KF IV
> I just ran my 582 with oil injection for the first time, after pulling out
a 532 without oil injection. I mixed the fuel 100 to 1 as per the
instructions.
>
> I can see oil moving slowly through one of the oil injection tubes.(There
was a small air bubble in the tube moving slowly toward the engine). The
other tube seems to be nearly empty.
>
> How can I prime the empty injection tube? Should it fill by itself? That
doesn't seem to be happening. Any ideas??
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 582 oil injectors |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Don:
When you say "do a good vent on oil injector" I presume you mean bleed the injection
system. Do you have a procedure that works? Please explain.
Thanks.
Marco Menezes
KF2 -N99KX
AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 2/10/05 5:07:26 AM Pacific Standard Time,
cfbflyer@localnet.com writes:
<<
is there a way to verify that the oil injectors on a 582 rotax are
working before running the engine
thanks Charlie
>>
Charlie,
Not to my knowledge. The recommended procedure for initial start up is
to premix some gas in the wing tanks at 100:1 ratio. This will supply some oil
in case the engine injector is not working. Also provides some extra oil
during the first hour of run time.
Do a good vent on the oil injector a couple times before startup and
make sure you have a good flow. Also squeeze the oil lines to help force out any
air.
That should do it. The injectors have a great history of working good.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Nate Free" <cherokeetransport@tds.net>
Hello all,
Has anyone heard anything on Dr. Jack Nolen and the missing LiteSqaured? I'm in
OK and I have heard nothing. I drive past where the area they were searching
every night around midnight, and stop in a local store and noone knows anything.
Our news never said they gave up the search. I can't believe he hasn't
been found. It isn't that sparcely populated here. Also, has anyone hung a
3300 Jabiru on a -6 or -7? I got this thought....120hp and a constant speed prop.
Anyone tried it? Which brings me to my next question. Do you have to go
and get a complex airplane endorsement for only the prop, or just get a checkout
in that airplane? I don't recall any 250hp retractable Kitfoxes. I know
the factory -7 uses a 914 Rotax, with a CS prop. Sounds cool to me. Just wondering.
Thanks,
Nate
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Injection Concern |
Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:10:39 -0600
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Savener" <david_savener@msn.com>
Pete,
I bled the line that comes from the oil reservoir tank to the pump. The lines
I am concerned with are the ones that go from the pump to the engine. One appears
to be pumping oil, The other appears to be empty.
Dave S
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Sigrist<mailto:psigrist@cox.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oil Injection Concern
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Pete Sigrist" <psigrist@cox.net<mailto:psigrist@cox.net>>
You don't prime it, you bleed it. Look for the small bolt head (about 10mm)
sticking out horizontally at the oil pump. Loosen the bolt until you have a
steady flow of oil coming out, then retighten. Also mark oil level on oil
tank so you can see if oil is flowing.
pete Rans S-12, KF IV
> I just ran my 582 with oil injection for the first time, after pulling out
a 532 without oil injection. I mixed the fuel 100 to 1 as per the
instructions.
>
> I can see oil moving slowly through one of the oil injection tubes.(There
was a small air bubble in the tube moving slowly toward the engine). The
other tube seems to be nearly empty.
>
> How can I prime the empty injection tube? Should it fill by itself? That
doesn't seem to be happening. Any ideas??
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: More questions |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
On an experimental the FAA does not require any endorsement. In fact I have been
told you can build a helicopter and fly it without a rotor certificate. Imagine
you invented a completely novel idea for a flying machine. How could you
get an endorsement. Sounds dangerous to me though. Anyway (for certifieds),
I think a complex endorsement encompasses >200hp, constant speed prop, and retracts.
A high performance endorsement for any the 2 of 3. Someone please correct
me if I got any of that wrong again.
Maxwell
Nate Free <cherokeetransport@tds.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Nate Free"
Hello all,
Has anyone heard anything on Dr. Jack Nolen and the missing LiteSqaured? I'm in
OK and I have heard nothing. I drive past where the area they were searching
every night around midnight, and stop in a local store and noone knows anything.
Our news never said they gave up the search. I can't believe he hasn't been
found. It isn't that sparcely populated here. Also, has anyone hung a 3300 Jabiru
on a -6 or -7? I got this thought....120hp and a constant speed prop. Anyone
tried it? Which brings me to my next question. Do you have to go and get a
complex airplane endorsement for only the prop, or just get a checkout in that
airplane? I don't recall any 250hp retractable Kitfoxes. I know the factory
-7 uses a 914 Rotax, with a CS prop. Sounds cool to me. Just wondering.
Thanks,
Nate
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| Subject: | Re: Stall Speed & AOA |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: EMAproducts@aol.com
Hello fellow Kitfox list members:
To help resolve the ongoing discussion of AOA, please go to the following
links, these have nothing to do with my company, but are two links which will
positivity get you squared away on the usefulness and "why's" of AOA. I have
been experimenting with AOA on light aircraft since the '60's and find the online
book "How It Flies" has the best explanation I've read in those nearly 40
years of experimentation trying to get a successful AOA "for the masses."
The Alpha Trainer is an invaluable training device for learning the concept
of AOA at a low cost. For those who like computers Tom has a simulator that
incorporates an AOA with the flight simulator which is excellent.
www.av8n.com
click on title, "How It Flies" then go to chapter 2
This book has been published and is currently not available except on line.
(anybody that finds a copy let me know)!
www.alphatrainer.com
This training device I've used with great success, and Tom sells it on line
Once you grasp the concept, you will wonder "Why haven't I had this before!"
Sincerely, and keep the safe angle!!
Elbie Mendenhall
EM aviation
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Maxwell,
You are essentially correct. A good example is floats.. Install floats
on
your aircraft.. you do not need an endorsement to fly it. However, You
cannot carry a passenger without the endorsement and the insurance will most
likely require it.
There are 2 different endorsements on certifieds...
High Performance: Over 200 horsepower
Complex: Retract, constant speed prop and flaps
So.. a Kitfox with a constant speed prop on amphibious floats would require
a complex endorsement and a float rating to carry a passenger. :) and what
fun it is !!
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of W Duke
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: More questions
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
On an experimental the FAA does not require any endorsement. In fact I have
been told you can build a helicopter and fly it without a rotor certificate.
Imagine you invented a completely novel idea for a flying machine. How
could you get an endorsement. Sounds dangerous to me though. Anyway (for
certifieds), I think a complex endorsement encompasses >200hp, constant
speed prop, and retracts. A high performance endorsement for any the 2 of
3. Someone please correct me if I got any of that wrong again.
Maxwell
Nate Free <cherokeetransport@tds.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Nate Free"
Hello all,
Has anyone heard anything on Dr. Jack Nolen and the missing LiteSqaured? I'm
in OK and I have heard nothing. I drive past where the area they were
searching every night around midnight, and stop in a local store and noone
knows anything. Our news never said they gave up the search. I can't believe
he hasn't been found. It isn't that sparcely populated here. Also, has
anyone hung a 3300 Jabiru on a -6 or -7? I got this thought....120hp and a
constant speed prop. Anyone tried it? Which brings me to my next question.
Do you have to go and get a complex airplane endorsement for only the prop,
or just get a checkout in that airplane? I don't recall any 250hp
retractable Kitfoxes. I know the factory -7 uses a 914 Rotax, with a CS
prop. Sounds cool to me. Just wondering.
Thanks,
Nate
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| Subject: | Re: More questions |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Hi Nate,
If you use a constant speed prop on a Jabiru, it has
to be a light weight one. Check with Jabiru on that,
but I think their crankshaft will not hold a heavier
constant speed.
Kurt S.
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--- Nate Free <cherokeetransport@tds.net> wrote:
> Hello all,
> .......Also, has anyone hung a 3300
> Jabiru on a -6 or -7? I got this thought....120hp
> and a constant speed prop. Anyone tried it?
> ........
> Thanks,
> Nate
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| Subject: | Re: altitude issues |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Hi Dee,
Assuming the VSI is on the same static line, it should
react badly along with the Altimeter if the static
system was the problem. If the VSI is steady when in
level flight and not moving with the altimeter, it
must be the altimeter that is at fault.
That is my guess.
Kurt S.
--- Dee Young <henrysfork1@msn.com> wrote:
> Kurt
>
> I was processing this (VSI) last night and was
> asking myself the same question. The VSI works fine
> with a steady needle in all conditions. I know it is
> good as I purchased it new from ACS. Also the static
> line is clear. So what does this tell us?
>
> Dee
>
> Do Not Archive
__________________________________
http://my.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: More questions |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <av8rps@tznet.com>
Nate:
I just recently received this e-mail from a friend. And it appears to be
closely related to the question you have regarding use of a jabiru 3300 in a
Kitfox. Hopefully it will help answer your questions on the engine (and
those who wrote this valuable information won't mind me passing it along to
the group here...)
Paul Seehafer
Wisconsin
From: "bob" <grumps@megalink.net>
Subject: Re: Jabiru 3300
HI TODD this is my 4TH plane I built in last 7 yearsand I have used
continental lycoming and rotax in the previous 3 SO FAR the JABIRU
3300 is by far the best I would not hesitate to install it again smooth
running engine. I am currently using an IVO prop medium 2 blade 68 inch
inflight adjustable also I have a Sensenich fixed pitch 64 in 47
pitch that I will be using when I install my anphibs floats (aerocompt)
this summer for takeoff preformance .
I have 134 hrs onthe plane since last June the best climb preformance
with the Ivo full flat is about 3150 RPM and 1900 FT per min I can
get a little better than that with my SENsenich but I loose 15 mph on
cruise also with the overheat situation you just lower the nose a bit
and it take care of the PROBLEM the 64 sensenich will be better for
floats you see I and my wife are fly fishermen (woman) and I go in some
very small ponds HERE IN MAINE I hale from LEWISTON MAINE. MY plane
weighs 815 lbs and it grosses out at 1550 lbswith full fuel (28 gals 6
1/2 endurance ) I still have a usefull load of 567 lbs. AND with the
10% allowance on floats it still gives me 502 usefull load my AIRCOMPT
ANPHIBS WEIGHT 220 lbs installed I should still get a cruise of 105
mph with about 4 1/2 gals per hr. NOW compare that with a Super cub
IT grosses ou at 1800 with a usefull load of 520 lbs subtract the
floats then your cruise speed is at best 90 mph on good days and with
the Lycoming 0320 160 hp you burn at least 8 gals per hr and it is
certified you can not do any work on it BLAH so you see TODD I have
gone thru the whole spiel in 7 yrs and I now think I got the all
around best for a fun and inexpensive plane for year round use I also
for the winter made a set of wheel penitrating skies for it FUN FUN
FUNgo any place any time.
Again you can"T go wrong by going with a JABIRU JIM will bend over
backwards to help you in any way.he is a super guy and he is honest
what he says he does . If I can offer you any other advise please feel
free to contact me GOOD LUCK BOB
----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Uecker" <lignitech@waypt.com>
Subject: Jabiru 3300
> Hi
> I got your name from Jabiru Pacific. I'm considering the 3300 for my
> Airdale, a close cousin to the KF 7. I'm curious about your
> experiences and performance of the engine. What prop and size are you
> using?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Todd Uecker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nate Free" <cherokeetransport@tds.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: More questions
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Nate Free" <cherokeetransport@tds.net>
>
> Hello all,
>
> Has anyone heard anything on Dr. Jack Nolen and the missing LiteSqaured?
> I'm in OK and I have heard nothing. I drive past where the area they were
> searching every night around midnight, and stop in a local store and noone
> knows anything. Our news never said they gave up the search. I can't
> believe he hasn't been found. It isn't that sparcely populated here.
> Also, has anyone hung a 3300 Jabiru on a -6 or -7? I got this
> thought....120hp and a constant speed prop. Anyone tried it? Which
> brings me to my next question. Do you have to go and get a complex
> airplane endorsement for only the prop, or just get a checkout in that
> airplane? I don't recall any 250hp retractable Kitfoxes. I know the
> factory -7 uses a 914 Rotax, with a CS prop. Sounds cool to me. Just
> wondering.
>
> Thanks,
> Nate
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: altitude issues |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
The VSI, ASI and Alt. are on the same static line with the Alt. being the
last one in the series and located next to the static port. The ASI and VSI
are steady in taxi and all situations of flight and seem to respond
accuratly to climb and decent. Only the Alt. bounces around on taxi run and
climb out then seems to settle down once I get up to around 5,200 ft.
Dee
>From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: altitude issues
>Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:28:36 -0800 (PST)
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
><smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
>Hi Dee,
>
>Assuming the VSI is on the same static line, it should
>react badly along with the Altimeter if the static
>system was the problem. If the VSI is steady when in
>level flight and not moving with the altimeter, it
>must be the altimeter that is at fault.
>
>That is my guess.
>
>Kurt S.
>
>--- Dee Young <henrysfork1@msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Kurt
> >
> > I was processing this (VSI) last night and was
> > asking myself the same question. The VSI works fine
> > with a steady needle in all conditions. I know it is
> > good as I purchased it new from ACS. Also the static
> > line is clear. So what does this tell us?
> >
> > Dee
> >
> > Do Not Archive
>
>
>__________________________________
>http://my.yahoo.com
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Randall" <gryfz450@hotmail.com>
Hello Roger,
I have a deal for you. I have a new 912S setting in my shop waiting to be
installed, I got it from SS when I bought my S7 kit. I have fallen about a
year behind in my building so I won't need my engine for atleast a year from
now. I will give you my engine and take your spot on the list for another
engine. SS will even cover the shipping! Hope this helps make your dream
come through!
Gary Randall
S7 at least a yr from now.
>From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
>Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:27:32 -0600
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
><rdmac@swbell.net>
>
>Attention Fellow Listers,
>
> It is with deep regret and sadness that I have decided to put
>my
>Model 7 up for sale. The sole reason I'm doing this is entirely do to the
>fact that I will probable never see the Rotax engine I ordered for this
>plane. Because of Sky Star's inability or unwillingness to fulfill there
>obligations to this customer I am ready to give up on ever completing this
>project. My desire to end this night mare relationship with SS is greater
>than the desire to build and own this fine little plane. I feel I have been
>given no other alternative. What SS has chosen to do is sacrifice the 19 or
>so customers waiting on engines in order to stay in business for the rest
>of
>there customers, period.
>
> If I can get what I feel I need to have for this plane then I will look
>on
>the internet for a good little C152. I might even be willing to trade for a
>good C152 with a fairly low time engine and some where between 20 and 30
>years old if it's in good shape. If anybody on the list is interested or
>knows someone that might be in owning a Model 7 that is for the most part
>80% to 85% complete and ready for a Rotax 912S engine, you can go to the
>link below and see what I have to offer. I have made every effort to build
>this plane exactly according to the manual and feel it will make someone a
>heck of a good little airplane. Kind regards, and Happy Landings to All.
>
>
> Roger Mac
>
>http://www.aerotraderonline.com/addetail.html?78025696
>
>
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| Subject: | Airdale double tailspring |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Has anyone out there had experience with Airdale's double (Avid) tailspring on
a Fox?
Marco Menezes
KF II N99KX
---------------------------------
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| Subject: | Re: KF7 For Sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jim rodenkirk <jimrody@wi.rr.com>
WOW, That's a wonderful gesture!! You're one hell of a decent person!
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Randall" <gryfz450@hotmail.com>
>
>Hello Roger,
>I have a deal for you. I have a new 912S setting in my shop waiting to be
>installed, I got it from SS when I bought my S7 kit. I have fallen about a
>year behind in my building so I won't need my engine for atleast a year from
>now. I will give you my engine and take your spot on the list for another
>engine. SS will even cover the shipping! Hope this helps make your dream
>come through!
>Gary Randall
>S7 at least a yr from now.
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
>>Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:27:32 -0600
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
>><rdmac@swbell.net>
>>
>>Attention Fellow Listers,
>>
>> It is with deep regret and sadness that I have decided to put
>>my
>>Model 7 up for sale. The sole reason I'm doing this is entirely do to the
>>fact that I will probable never see the Rotax engine I ordered for this
>>plane. Because of Sky Star's inability or unwillingness to fulfill there
>>obligations to this customer I am ready to give up on ever completing this
>>project. My desire to end this night mare relationship with SS is greater
>>than the desire to build and own this fine little plane. I feel I have been
>>given no other alternative. What SS has chosen to do is sacrifice the 19 or
>>so customers waiting on engines in order to stay in business for the rest
>>of
>>there customers, period.
>>
>> If I can get what I feel I need to have for this plane then I will look
>>on
>>the internet for a good little C152. I might even be willing to trade for a
>>good C152 with a fairly low time engine and some where between 20 and 30
>>years old if it's in good shape. If anybody on the list is interested or
>>knows someone that might be in owning a Model 7 that is for the most part
>>80% to 85% complete and ready for a Rotax 912S engine, you can go to the
>>link below and see what I have to offer. I have made every effort to build
>>this plane exactly according to the manual and feel it will make someone a
>>heck of a good little airplane. Kind regards, and Happy Landings to All.
>>
>>
>> Roger Mac
>>
>>http://www.aerotraderonline.com/addetail.html?78025696
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
That's what I love about this list - You're quite a gentleman Gary.
Regards
GaryA
Lite2/682
WOW, That's a wonderful gesture!! You're one hell of a decent person!
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Randall" <gryfz450@hotmail.com>
>
>Hello Roger,
>I have a deal for you. I have a new 912S setting in my shop waiting to be
>installed, I got it from SS when I bought my S7 kit. I have fallen about a
>year behind in my building so I won't need my engine for atleast a year
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| Subject: | 912S Exhaust system mods |
04:47:41 PM,
Serialize complete at 02/10/2005 04:47:41 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
I lucked out and got a brand new 912 exhaust system for my KF IV for a
fraction of what a new one would cost. Got the header pipes too. Problem
is it is the old design and I run a 912S. SS was getting 912S owners to
return theirs and they would do some strengthening mods. Anyone know the
details of what they did? I know they added a support from the tailpipe
to the canister. Anyone know if they did anything else? I have both a
recent one (cracked badly) and the older design. The length of the
exhaust pipe and the support seem to be the only differences, but the SS
service bulletin says to send back the canister and the header pipes for
mods.
Thx in advance.
Gary Walsh
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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| Subject: | Re: KF7 For Sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
It never seems to amaze me the class of people we have in our group. Gary,
you're definitely "the man"!
Deke
>
> Hello Roger,
> I have a deal for you. I have a new 912S setting in my shop waiting to be
> installed, I got it from SS when I bought my S7 kit. I have fallen about
a
> year behind in my building so I won't need my engine for atleast a year
from
> now. I will give you my engine and take your spot on the list for another
> engine. SS will even cover the shipping! Hope this helps make your dream
> come through!
> Gary Randall
> S7 at least a yr from now.
>
>
> >From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
> >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
> >Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:27:32 -0600
> >
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
> ><rdmac@swbell.net>
> >
> >Attention Fellow Listers,
> >
> > It is with deep regret and sadness that I have decided to
put
> >my
> >Model 7 up for sale. The sole reason I'm doing this is entirely do to the
> >fact that I will probable never see the Rotax engine I ordered for this
> >plane. Because of Sky Star's inability or unwillingness to fulfill there
> >obligations to this customer I am ready to give up on ever completing
this
> >project. My desire to end this night mare relationship with SS is greater
> >than the desire to build and own this fine little plane. I feel I have
been
> >given no other alternative. What SS has chosen to do is sacrifice the 19
or
> >so customers waiting on engines in order to stay in business for the rest
> >of
> >there customers, period.
> >
> > If I can get what I feel I need to have for this plane then I will look
> >on
> >the internet for a good little C152. I might even be willing to trade for
a
> >good C152 with a fairly low time engine and some where between 20 and 30
> >years old if it's in good shape. If anybody on the list is interested or
> >knows someone that might be in owning a Model 7 that is for the most part
> >80% to 85% complete and ready for a Rotax 912S engine, you can go to the
> >link below and see what I have to offer. I have made every effort to
build
> >this plane exactly according to the manual and feel it will make someone
a
> >heck of a good little airplane. Kind regards, and Happy Landings to All.
> >
> >
> > Roger Mac
> >
> >http://www.aerotraderonline.com/addetail.html?78025696
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Wow, Gary, that is about the most generous offer that I have ever seen in
this business. You are putting a lot of faith in Skystar, with no guarantee
that you will get another engine. Congratulations to you. I want both you
and Roger to come out even, so be sure to have an attorney or accountant
help you with the agreement (if Roger takes you up on it).
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Randall
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Randall" <gryfz450@hotmail.com>
Hello Roger,
I have a deal for you. I have a new 912S setting in my shop waiting to be
installed, I got it from SS when I bought my S7 kit. I have fallen about a
year behind in my building so I won't need my engine for atleast a year from
now. I will give you my engine and take your spot on the list for another
engine. SS will even cover the shipping! Hope this helps make your dream
come through!
Gary Randall
S7 at least a yr from now.
>From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
>Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:27:32 -0600
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
><rdmac@swbell.net>
>
>Attention Fellow Listers,
>
> It is with deep regret and sadness that I have decided to put
>my
>Model 7 up for sale. The sole reason I'm doing this is entirely do to the
>fact that I will probable never see the Rotax engine I ordered for this
>plane. Because of Sky Star's inability or unwillingness to fulfill there
>obligations to this customer I am ready to give up on ever completing this
>project. My desire to end this night mare relationship with SS is greater
>than the desire to build and own this fine little plane. I feel I have been
>given no other alternative. What SS has chosen to do is sacrifice the 19 or
>so customers waiting on engines in order to stay in business for the rest
>of
>there customers, period.
>
> If I can get what I feel I need to have for this plane then I will look
>on
>the internet for a good little C152. I might even be willing to trade for a
>good C152 with a fairly low time engine and some where between 20 and 30
>years old if it's in good shape. If anybody on the list is interested or
>knows someone that might be in owning a Model 7 that is for the most part
>80% to 85% complete and ready for a Rotax 912S engine, you can go to the
>link below and see what I have to offer. I have made every effort to build
>this plane exactly according to the manual and feel it will make someone a
>heck of a good little airplane. Kind regards, and Happy Landings to All.
>
>
> Roger Mac
>
>http://www.aerotraderonline.com/addetail.html?78025696
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: KF7 For Sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Fox5flyer wrote:
> It never seems to amaze me the class of people we have in our group. Gary,
> you're definitely "the man"!
Indeed! I feel like writing to the press, saying: Hey, guys! Don't send us only
bad news about all the misery on this earth but tell us more about all the
nice, decent people who do great things like Gary.
Thank you Gary! You made my day. A little bit of hope for mankind.
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Injection Concern |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Pete Sigrist" <psigrist@cox.net>
Dave,
I would probably make the mix in my gas tank 50:1 and run the engine for a
while(an hour or more). Mark the oil level in the oil tank carefully, and
then see if that level has gone down. Then also look again at the small
feeder lines to see if they are full of oil. Be sure to run premix until you
are absolutely sure that the engine is getting oil from the oil pump. I
toasted a 582 a couple of years ago because of being stupid.
pete
> I bled the line that comes from the oil reservoir tank to the pump. The
lines I am concerned with are the ones that go from the pump to the engine.
One appears to be pumping oil, The other appears to be empty.
>
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| Subject: | Re: KF7 For Sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Pete Sigrist" <psigrist@cox.net>
Gary,
I'm sure I speak for many others when I say "What an incredibly nice offer"
pete sigrist
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Randall" <gryfz450@hotmail.com>
>
> Hello Roger,
> I have a deal for you. I have a new 912S setting in my shop waiting to be
> installed, I got it from SS when I bought my S7 kit. I have fallen about
a
> year behind in my building so I won't need my engine for atleast a year
from
> now. I will give you my engine and take your spot on the list
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Hi Gary
Did I understand you right? Have you talked to Frank about this? Are
you sure you're willing to do that. I will name my plane after you if your
will to do that. Where do live? What kind of shipping charge are we looking
at? I would be willing to pay if SS won't. I can't believe this. I hope this
is not some cruel joke.
Roger
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Randall
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Randall" <gryfz450@hotmail.com>
Hello Roger,
I have a deal for you. I have a new 912S setting in my shop waiting to be
installed, I got it from SS when I bought my S7 kit. I have fallen about a
year behind in my building so I won't need my engine for atleast a year from
now. I will give you my engine and take your spot on the list for another
engine. SS will even cover the shipping! Hope this helps make your dream
come through!
Gary Randall
S7 at least a yr from now.
>From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
>Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:27:32 -0600
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
><rdmac@swbell.net>
>
>Attention Fellow Listers,
>
> It is with deep regret and sadness that I have decided to put
>my
>Model 7 up for sale. The sole reason I'm doing this is entirely do to the
>fact that I will probable never see the Rotax engine I ordered for this
>plane. Because of Sky Star's inability or unwillingness to fulfill there
>obligations to this customer I am ready to give up on ever completing this
>project. My desire to end this night mare relationship with SS is greater
>than the desire to build and own this fine little plane. I feel I have been
>given no other alternative. What SS has chosen to do is sacrifice the 19 or
>so customers waiting on engines in order to stay in business for the rest
>of
>there customers, period.
>
> If I can get what I feel I need to have for this plane then I will look
>on
>the internet for a good little C152. I might even be willing to trade for a
>good C152 with a fairly low time engine and some where between 20 and 30
>years old if it's in good shape. If anybody on the list is interested or
>knows someone that might be in owning a Model 7 that is for the most part
>80% to 85% complete and ready for a Rotax 912S engine, you can go to the
>link below and see what I have to offer. I have made every effort to build
>this plane exactly according to the manual and feel it will make someone a
>heck of a good little airplane. Kind regards, and Happy Landings to All.
>
>
> Roger Mac
>
>http://www.aerotraderonline.com/addetail.html?78025696
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net>
Wow, now there is some real Kitfox, General Aviation, home builder, forum,
and just nice guy attitude. My hat is off to Gary and to Roger if he will
take up on this offer........sounds too good to be true, but this list is
always doing stuff like this. Yay Gary!
Sid
Avid Speedwing
Yeah, I know, not even the same airplane.
Just couldn't pass up the chance to thank
a fellow pilot and home builder for his "extreme
generosity........"
----------------------------
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell
net>
Hi Gary
Did I understand you right? Have you talked to Frank about this? Are
you sure you're willing to do that. I will name my plane after you if your
will to do that. Where do live? What kind of shipping charge are we looking
at? I would be willing to pay if SS won't. I can't believe this. I hope this
is not some cruel joke.
Roger
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Randall
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Randall" <gryfz450@hotmail.com>
Hello Roger,
I have a deal for you. I have a new 912S setting in my shop waiting to be
installed, I got it from SS when I bought my S7 kit. I have fallen about a
year behind in my building so I won't need my engine for atleast a year from
now. I will give you my engine and take your spot on the list for another
engine. SS will even cover the shipping! Hope this helps make your dream
come through!
Gary Randall
S7 at least a yr from now.
>From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
>Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:27:32 -0600
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
><rdmac@swbell.net>
>
>Attention Fellow Listers,
>
> It is with deep regret and sadness that I have decided to put
>my
>Model 7 up for sale. The sole reason I'm doing this is entirely do to the
>fact that I will probable never see the Rotax engine I ordered for this
>plane. Because of Sky Star's inability or unwillingness to fulfill there
>obligations to this customer I am ready to give up on ever completing this
>project. My desire to end this night mare relationship with SS is greater
>than the desire to build and own this fine little plane. I feel I have been
>given no other alternative. What SS has chosen to do is sacrifice the 19 or
>so customers waiting on engines in order to stay in business for the rest
>of
>there customers, period.
>
> If I can get what I feel I need to have for this plane then I will look
>on
>the internet for a good little C152. I might even be willing to trade for a
>good C152 with a fairly low time engine and some where between 20 and 30
>years old if it's in good shape. If anybody on the list is interested or
>knows someone that might be in owning a Model 7 that is for the most part
>80% to 85% complete and ready for a Rotax 912S engine, you can go to the
>link below and see what I have to offer. I have made every effort to build
>this plane exactly according to the manual and feel it will make someone a
>heck of a good little airplane. Kind regards, and Happy Landings to All.
>
>
> Roger Mac
>
>http://www.aerotraderonline.com/addetail.html?78025696
>
>
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Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:33:48 -0600
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Savener" <david_savener@msn.com>
I called California Power Systems and they said "Something has to be wrong," and
"Those pumps are almost bullet proof". They wanted to know about the filter
for that system. He said "Take it apart, that outlet line is plugged or something."
I took it apart and behind the carb, the hose had a hole it. I repaired it, sprayed
a little oil in the cylinder while the pump filled the line and now it works
perfectly.
Thanks for the help. This list is Great!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Sigrist<mailto:psigrist@cox.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oil Injection Concern
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Pete Sigrist" <psigrist@cox.net<mailto:psigrist@cox.net>>
Dave,
I would probably make the mix in my gas tank 50:1 and run the engine for a
while(an hour or more). Mark the oil level in the oil tank carefully, and
then see if that level has gone down. Then also look again at the small
feeder lines to see if they are full of oil. Be sure to run premix until you
are absolutely sure that the engine is getting oil from the oil pump. I
toasted a 582 a couple of years ago because of being stupid.
pete
> I bled the line that comes from the oil reservoir tank to the pump. The
lines I am concerned with are the ones that go from the pump to the engine.
One appears to be pumping oil, The other appears to be empty.
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: The Gaskills <kitfox@shaw.ca>
Gary, you are a hero and a gentleman!
Hats off to you!
Wendy
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 582 oil injectors |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 2/10/05 12:54:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
msm_9949@yahoo.com writes:
<< Don:
When you say "do a good vent on oil injector" I presume you mean bleed the
injection system. Do you have a procedure that works? Please explain.
Thanks.
Marco Menezes
KF2 -N99KX >>
The only procedure I know is simply fill the system with oil and loosen the
bleed/vent screw on the face of the pump. That should do it.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 2/10/05 7:48:55 AM Pacific Standard Time,
david_savener@msn.com writes:
<<
I can see oil moving slowly through one of the oil injection tubes.(There
was a small air bubble in the tube moving slowly toward the engine). The other
tube seems to be nearly empty.
How can I prime the empty injection tube? Should it fill by itself? That
doesn't seem to be happening. Any ideas??
>>
It should prime/fill by itself after it's properly vented. What are your
engine instruments reading?
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
WOW! What a gentleman. I am so impressed. You make me want to be a better
person!
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Algate
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
That's what I love about this list - You're quite a gentleman Gary.
Regards
GaryA
Lite2/682
WOW, That's a wonderful gesture!! You're one hell of a decent person!
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Randall" <gryfz450@hotmail.com>
>
>Hello Roger,
>I have a deal for you. I have a new 912S setting in my shop waiting to be
>installed, I got it from SS when I bought my S7 kit. I have fallen about a
>year behind in my building so I won't need my engine for atleast a year
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
I have the static port installed up mid way and just in front of the left
cabin door. Could this installation be causing my problem?
Hi ! Dee,
I bought my plane rather than made it myself. The static
ports were each side as you state in front of the doors halfway up. However
when I picked the plane up I noticed that the tubing had been pulled of the
fittings on the fuselage. The tubing was just hangings next to the fittings.
I questioned this a few times as it worried me. Anyway it now turns out that
with the ports connected in this position that things like the altimeter go
crazy as yours is doing. With the tubes disconnected everything works just
fine.
I have somewhere various info from Skystar on all this and Ed Downs tells
me the ports never did work in the position in front of the doors. He says
open to cabin pressure as mine now are is OK but might just cause a slightly
high IAS reading. I also have info from Sky Star as to the correct position
which is back on the fuselage just in front of the tail. However I have
checked my IAS against a GPS and it is only 2 knots out at about 80 knots so
I see no point in playing with it. Sky Star also say the static port only
goes one side of the fuselage and I can't rest easy with that, so that also
helps influence me to leave my ports open to cabin pressure since they work
fine like that. However bear in mind I have not flown with the doors open.
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Wow! If only everyone on this planet was a little bit
like you Gary. My hat is off to you... clap! clap!
clap!
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
do not archive
--- Gary Randall <gryfz450@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Randall"
> <gryfz450@hotmail.com>
>
> Hello Roger,
> I have a deal for you. I have a new 912S setting in
> my shop waiting to be
> installed, I got it from SS when I bought my S7 kit.
> I have fallen about a
> year behind in my building so I won't need my engine
> for atleast a year from
> now. I will give you my engine and take your spot
> on the list for another
> engine. SS will even cover the shipping! Hope this
> helps make your dream
> come through!
> Gary Randall
> S7 at least a yr from now.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Randall" <gryfz450@hotmail.com>
Hello Roger,
I talked to Crystal today, she stated SS will pickup the shipping charges.
Yes I am very serious about this. I dont see why this brand new engine
needs to set around collecting dust when it could be flying. I have meet
some of the best people in the world since I started my kit. The folks at
SS are some of the best. I believe in what Frank is trying to do and I just
plan dont feel that I am going to get hurt. The only thing I have BO from
SS is a Throttle Cable and the Lord Mount so if there is other things that I
have that you need to get your plane in the air let me know. We can work
this out with SS so they just mark you as delivered and me as BO. This will
help you see your dream come true and it will give SS just a little more
capital to get through this rough time. And it makes me feel good!
So lets put another 7 in the air!
Gary Randall
S7 hopefully in a year:)
>From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
>Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:57:30 -0600
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
><rdmac@swbell.net>
>
>Hi Gary
> Did I understand you right? Have you talked to Frank about this?
>Are
>you sure you're willing to do that. I will name my plane after you if your
>will to do that. Where do live? What kind of shipping charge are we looking
>at? I would be willing to pay if SS won't. I can't believe this. I hope
>this
>is not some cruel joke.
> Roger
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Randall
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Randall" <gryfz450@hotmail.com>
>
>Hello Roger,
>I have a deal for you. I have a new 912S setting in my shop waiting to be
>installed, I got it from SS when I bought my S7 kit. I have fallen about a
>year behind in my building so I won't need my engine for atleast a year
>from
>
>now. I will give you my engine and take your spot on the list for another
>engine. SS will even cover the shipping! Hope this helps make your dream
>come through!
>Gary Randall
>S7 at least a yr from now.
>
>
> >From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
> >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Kitfox-List: KF7 For Sale
> >Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:27:32 -0600
> >
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
> ><rdmac@swbell.net>
> >
> >Attention Fellow Listers,
> >
> > It is with deep regret and sadness that I have decided to
>put
> >my
> >Model 7 up for sale. The sole reason I'm doing this is entirely do to the
> >fact that I will probable never see the Rotax engine I ordered for this
> >plane. Because of Sky Star's inability or unwillingness to fulfill there
> >obligations to this customer I am ready to give up on ever completing
>this
> >project. My desire to end this night mare relationship with SS is greater
> >than the desire to build and own this fine little plane. I feel I have
>been
> >given no other alternative. What SS has chosen to do is sacrifice the 19
>or
> >so customers waiting on engines in order to stay in business for the rest
> >of
> >there customers, period.
> >
> > If I can get what I feel I need to have for this plane then I will look
> >on
> >the internet for a good little C152. I might even be willing to trade for
>a
> >good C152 with a fairly low time engine and some where between 20 and 30
> >years old if it's in good shape. If anybody on the list is interested or
> >knows someone that might be in owning a Model 7 that is for the most part
> >80% to 85% complete and ready for a Rotax 912S engine, you can go to the
> >link below and see what I have to offer. I have made every effort to
>build
> >this plane exactly according to the manual and feel it will make someone
>a
> >heck of a good little airplane. Kind regards, and Happy Landings to All.
> >
> >
> > Roger Mac
> >
> >http://www.aerotraderonline.com/addetail.html?78025696
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Thanks John. Jeff
> [Original Message]
> From: jdmcbean <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 2/9/2005 5:43:03 PM
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Desert Squadron
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
> Jeffrey,
> Visit www.desertfoxsquadron.org there is info there. You may
want to
> contact them before flying in as they are not always there.. it is an
> airpark.
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Puls
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Desert Squadron
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
>
> What airport is the desert squadron based in Arizona? Jeff Classic IV
>
>
> Jeffrey Puls
> pulsair@mindspring.com
>
>
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