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1. 09:54 AM - Re: Choke Lever (Kerry Skyring)
2. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: Series 5 building sequence (Kerry Skyring)
3. 10:39 AM - Re: Choke Lever (Vic Jacko)
4. 02:11 PM - Rotax 582 Noise Reduction (Guy Buchanan)
5. 02:18 PM - Re: Rotax 582 Noise Reduction (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
6. 02:26 PM - Re: rudder petal reinforcements (Mike Couillard)
7. 02:34 PM - Attaching Seat Pan (Mike Couillard)
8. 02:44 PM - Re: rudder petal reinforcements-no pics yet (David Estapa)
9. 02:52 PM - Re: EGTs in a Rotax 912-S / Joe (icaza francisco)
10. 03:04 PM - Re: Attaching Seat Pan (Donna and Roger McConnell)
11. 03:10 PM - Re: rudder petal reinforcements-no pics yet (Mike Couillard)
12. 03:19 PM - Re: rudder petal reinforcements (John Anderson)
13. 03:21 PM - Re: Attaching Seat Pan (John Anderson)
14. 03:26 PM - Re: Re: Series 5 building sequence (Lynn Matteson)
15. 03:45 PM - Re: Attaching Seat Pan (Chenoweth)
16. 05:10 PM - Re: Re: Series 5 building sequence (Lowell Fitt)
17. 05:18 PM - Re: Rotax 582 Noise Reduction (Pete Sigrist)
18. 05:41 PM - Re: Rotax 582 Noise Reduction (Bob Robertson)
19. 06:58 PM - Re: Kill Switch (Joel Mapes)
20. 08:50 PM - Re: Rotax 582 Noise Reduction (dwight purdy)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
This has been a very informative discussion. I have just converted on to the
club's Cessna 150 which is fitted with a Rotax 912S - same as we are fitting
to the Kitfox S5 - and the "choke" start works perfectly. But I did not
understand how it worked. I do now. We have carefully fitted and adjusted
the choke cables on the S5 912S and in a few weeks we should be firing it
up.
Thanks again to the list for all of the info.
Kerry
>
>
http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | RE: Series 5 building sequence |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
Randy wrote..
The springs in the adjustment mechanism take up the slack in the cables. I
>suppose you could put turnbuckles in the system..
Randy stop us doing something silly. I'm just the builders helper but he was
complaining the other day that after having the cables swaged they were
still too slack and he would have to have it done again. He has turnbuckles
at the rudder. Without actually going into it too deeply I felt the cables
and they did indeed feel a bit slack and perhaps the adjustment in the
turnbuckles would not be enough to tighten them up. Are you saying this
doesn't matter? I didn't actually think about the adjustment of the pedals.
What should we do before we do something silly?
Kerry
Builders helper and translator. S5 912S.
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
Did I read this correct? Your club's Cessna 150 has a Rotax 912s? I would
like to hear more about this conversion.
Do not archive,
Vic
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Choke Lever
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring"
> <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
>
>
> This has been a very informative discussion. I have just converted on to
> the
> club's Cessna 150 which is fitted with a Rotax 912S - same as we are
> fitting
> to the Kitfox S5 - and the "choke" start works perfectly. But I did not
> understand how it worked. I do now. We have carefully fitted and adjusted
> the choke cables on the S5 912S and in a few weeks we should be firing it
> up.
>
> Thanks again to the list for all of the info.
> Kerry
>
>
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>
> http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | Rotax 582 Noise Reduction |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
All,
I'd like to be kind to my neighbors and quiet my 582 in my Kitfox
IV-1200. Has anybody fit the 582 intake silencer under the round cowl? How
about the exhaust silencer? Do these really help? I'd like to be as quiet
as possible.
Thanks,
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 582 Noise Reduction |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 4/6/2005 5:12:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
bnn@nethere.com writes:
All,
I'd like to be kind to my neighbors and quiet my 582 in my Kitfox
IV-1200. Has anybody fit the 582 intake silencer under the round cowl? How
about the exhaust silencer? Do these really help? I'd like to be as quiet
as possible.
Thanks,
Guy Buchanan
Guy,
Are you worried about the neighbors on the ground or in the seat next to
you? I think I've heard that these devises rob a little horsepower. I'd
rather have the HP and besides, I don't think the 582 is that noisy from the
ground.
Don Smythe
Classic IV w/ 582
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| Subject: | rudder petal reinforcements |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mike Couillard" <Mike.Couillard@aleutmgt.com>
Still not finding the photos....no fair teasing us!
=)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: rudder petal reinforcements
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
--> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Hi Nelson. Unless I'm missing it your post doesn't seem to be getting
posted on photoshare. Try going to Sportflight.com/uploads. That's our
(Kitfox List) archive of photos. Easy to upload and lots of stuff to
browse through by category.
Deke
List Administrator
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Nelson J. Goguen" <mino@rcn.com>
> Hey guys, After reading, on this list, about some rudder petals
> cracking
at the weld joint, I thought I would strengthen mine without removing
them from the plane. To remove them I would have had to drill out all
the rivets that secures the firewall to the bottom of the fuselarge.
Then remove the lock nuts that hold the rudder petal mounting brackets.
I would have to get reinforcements welded, repaint or powder coate and
reinstall. Anyway, I made a pattern (my original trade "pattern maker")
and had aluminum castings made. They look like a split pipe tee with
the bottom partially removed to clear the floor boards. Two small cap
screws will hold them in place while the structual adhesive cures. The
vertical arms are then riveted.
Pictures at http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
>
> Fly safe,
>
> Nelsonl
>
>
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| Subject: | Attaching Seat Pan |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mike Couillard" <Mike.Couillard@aleutmgt.com>
I'm wondering if someone has found a better way to attach the seat pan
to the Kitfox (I've got a series 5 and I don't like the suggested method
of using plastic ties)
Open to your ideas...
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: rudder petal reinforcements-no pics yet |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
I've noticed that Matronics posts pictures in batches and sometimes it
takes a couple of weeks to show up.
C. David Estapa
S5 N97DE -weeks away from flying!
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:20:50 -0600 "Mike Couillard"
<Mike.Couillard@aleutmgt.com> writes:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mike Couillard"
> <Mike.Couillard@aleutmgt.com>
>
> Still not finding the photos....no fair teasing us!
>
> =)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Fox5flyer
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: rudder petal reinforcements
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
> --> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> Hi Nelson. Unless I'm missing it your post doesn't seem to be
> getting
> posted on photoshare. Try going to Sportflight.com/uploads. That's
> our
> (Kitfox List) archive of photos. Easy to upload and lots of stuff
> to
> browse through by category.
> Deke
> List Administrator
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Nelson J. Goguen"
> <mino@rcn.com>
> > Hey guys, After reading, on this list, about some rudder petals
> > cracking
> at the weld joint, I thought I would strengthen mine without
> removing
> them from the plane. To remove them I would have had to drill out
> all
> the rivets that secures the firewall to the bottom of the
> fuselarge.
> Then remove the lock nuts that hold the rudder petal mounting
> brackets.
> I would have to get reinforcements welded, repaint or powder coate
> and
> reinstall. Anyway, I made a pattern (my original trade "pattern
> maker")
> and had aluminum castings made. They look like a split pipe tee
> with
> the bottom partially removed to clear the floor boards. Two small
> cap
> screws will hold them in place while the structual adhesive cures.
> The
> vertical arms are then riveted.
> Pictures at http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> >
> > Fly safe,
> >
> > Nelsonl
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: EGTs in a Rotax 912-S / Joe |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: icaza francisco <franicaza@yahoo.com.mx>
Joe,
Thanks your help,
I appreciate
Francisco.
Classic IV
--- joe <joe@arin.k12.pa.us> escribi:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "joe"
> <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
>
>
> Is it normal 251 oF between the lowest and the
> highest
> EGT?
>
> +++ my 912 has about that difference at some power
> settings.
>
> see graphs posted on website.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
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>
>
>
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| Subject: | Attaching Seat Pan |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Mike,
I purchased the seat sling from the folks a Blue Sky Aviation.
Basically all it is is four lengths of seat belt material and 8 screw
clamps. I glued on some reinforcement strips to hold the straps in place on
the back of the seat pan. Worked out pretty good however I haven't tried it
out yet.
Roger Mac
http://www.blueskyaviation.net/catalog.html
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Couillard
Subject: Kitfox-List: Attaching Seat Pan
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mike Couillard"
<Mike.Couillard@aleutmgt.com>
I'm wondering if someone has found a better way to attach the seat pan
to the Kitfox (I've got a series 5 and I don't like the suggested method
of using plastic ties)
Open to your ideas...
Mike
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| Subject: | rudder petal reinforcements-no pics yet |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mike Couillard" <Mike.Couillard@aleutmgt.com>
OK, I'll try to be patient =)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
Estapa
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: rudder petal reinforcements-no pics yet
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
I've noticed that Matronics posts pictures in batches and sometimes it
takes a couple of weeks to show up.
C. David Estapa
S5 N97DE -weeks away from flying!
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:20:50 -0600 "Mike Couillard"
<Mike.Couillard@aleutmgt.com> writes:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mike Couillard"
> <Mike.Couillard@aleutmgt.com>
>
> Still not finding the photos....no fair teasing us!
>
> =)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: rudder petal reinforcements
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
> --> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> Hi Nelson. Unless I'm missing it your post doesn't seem to be getting
> posted on photoshare. Try going to Sportflight.com/uploads. That's
> our (Kitfox List) archive of photos. Easy to upload and lots of stuff
> to browse through by category.
> Deke
> List Administrator
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Nelson J. Goguen"
> <mino@rcn.com>
> > Hey guys, After reading, on this list, about some rudder petals
> > cracking
> at the weld joint, I thought I would strengthen mine without removing
> them from the plane. To remove them I would have had to drill out all
> the rivets that secures the firewall to the bottom of the fuselarge.
> Then remove the lock nuts that hold the rudder petal mounting
> brackets.
> I would have to get reinforcements welded, repaint or powder coate and
> reinstall. Anyway, I made a pattern (my original trade "pattern
> maker")
> and had aluminum castings made. They look like a split pipe tee with
> the bottom partially removed to clear the floor boards. Two small cap
> screws will hold them in place while the structual adhesive cures.
> The
> vertical arms are then riveted.
> Pictures at http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> >
> > Fly safe,
> >
> > Nelsonl
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | rudder petal reinforcements |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Any chance that they can be uploaded to Sportflight... John A.
From: "Mike Couillard" <Mike.Couillard@aleutmgt.com>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: rudder petal reinforcements
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mike Couillard"
<Mike.Couillard@aleutmgt.com>
Still not finding the photos....no fair teasing us!
=)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: rudder petal reinforcements
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
--> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Hi Nelson. Unless I'm missing it your post doesn't seem to be getting
posted on photoshare. Try going to Sportflight.com/uploads. That's our
(Kitfox List) archive of photos. Easy to upload and lots of stuff to
browse through by category.
Deke
List Administrator
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Nelson J. Goguen" <mino@rcn.com>
> Hey guys, After reading, on this list, about some rudder petals
> cracking
at the weld joint, I thought I would strengthen mine without removing
them from the plane. To remove them I would have had to drill out all
the rivets that secures the firewall to the bottom of the fuselarge.
Then remove the lock nuts that hold the rudder petal mounting brackets.
I would have to get reinforcements welded, repaint or powder coate and
reinstall. Anyway, I made a pattern (my original trade "pattern maker")
and had aluminum castings made. They look like a split pipe tee with
the bottom partially removed to clear the floor boards. Two small cap
screws will hold them in place while the structual adhesive cures. The
vertical arms are then riveted.
Pictures at http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
>
> Fly safe,
>
> Nelsonl
>
>
Become a fitness fanatic @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/health
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| Subject: | Attaching Seat Pan |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Bare with me Mike, I'll get you a shot of my system as soon as I get home...
In fack, I'll put it on Sportflight - John A.
From: "Mike Couillard" <Mike.Couillard@aleutmgt.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Attaching Seat Pan
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mike Couillard"
<Mike.Couillard@aleutmgt.com>
I'm wondering if someone has found a better way to attach the seat pan
to the Kitfox (I've got a series 5 and I don't like the suggested method
of using plastic ties)
Open to your ideas...
Mike
Find the coolest online games @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/gaming
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Series 5 building sequence |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Just to add another viewpoint/idea:
I bought (from Spruce) two MS20667-3 fork ends and had them swaged
(locally....Spruce was WAY too high priced, and too long to do it) onto
3/32" stainless steel cables. Then I bought the following parts that
make up the turnbuckle: AN170-16LS cable eye; AN161-16RS turnbuckle
fork; and AN155-16S turnbuckle barrel. The fork ends are .108" width
where they fit over the .156" (or so) rudder horn. I slipped a .156"
drill between the fork cheeks, forcing them a little wider, then
squeezed the cheeks back to parallel. It works just dandy. Then up at
the rudder pedal ends, I ran the cable through cable thimbles (spruce
#AN100C-4) that went in the cable eye end of the turnbuckle, while the
fork end slid over the appropriate arm on the rudder pedal. I used the
normal Nicopress swaging sleeves (#28-2-G zinc sleeve) to complete the
"cockpit"end of the cable.
The reason I did this was to get away from the two "adjusting links"
that SS has you build....some adjustment! 1/2" at a time. I realize
that you can make these adjusters any length or hole spacing you like,
but I also like the clean look of the swaged-on fork at the tail. I
also didn't like the more recent method of bolting the cable on top of
the rudder horn...it just seems awkward to me...the pull seems like it
ought to be in a straight line from the cable to the horn, and with the
fork it is. I realize that it's not far off line, but that's just me, I
guess.
I can now adjust tension on the cables, and the left-versus-right
rudder pedal alignment. I had to grind a smidgeon off the ends of the
rudder stop horns to allow the forks to clear when the rudder is
deflected to its maximum either left or right. Sitting on the ground,
this system works great...hope somebody doesn't find fault with it, but
if they do, please tell me so I don't fly with it. : )
Lynn
On Wednesday, April 6, 2005, at 01:10 PM, Kerry Skyring wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring"
> <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
>
> Randy wrote..
>
> The springs in the adjustment mechanism take up the slack in the
> cables. I
>> suppose you could put turnbuckles in the system..
>
> Randy stop us doing something silly. I'm just the builders helper but
> he was
> complaining the other day that after having the cables swaged they were
> still too slack and he would have to have it done again. He has
> turnbuckles
> at the rudder. Without actually going into it too deeply I felt the
> cables
> and they did indeed feel a bit slack and perhaps the adjustment in the
> turnbuckles would not be enough to tighten them up. Are you saying this
> doesn't matter? I didn't actually think about the adjustment of the
> pedals.
> What should we do before we do something silly?
>
> Kerry
> Builders helper and translator. S5 912S.
>
>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Attaching Seat Pan |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Chenoweth" <chenoweth@gwi.net>
Mike,
A good number of years ago SkyStar suggested to me that I use hose clamps at
the four corners of the seat. I did that and it's worked out fine. If one
were inclined he could use more hose clamps, too.
Bill
IV1200 115 hours
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Couillard" <Mike.Couillard@aleutmgt.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Attaching Seat Pan
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mike Couillard"
<Mike.Couillard@aleutmgt.com>
>
> I'm wondering if someone has found a better way to attach the seat pan
> to the Kitfox (I've got a series 5 and I don't like the suggested method
> of using plastic ties)
>
> Open to your ideas...
>
> Mike
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Series 5 building sequence |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
There is nothing wrong with the plans. Maybe just some confusion as to the
geometry of the rudder contfol system.
With the Kitfox design, the springs only add sufficient tension to prevent
the cables from slopping around. Since the Kitfox is a heavy rudder
design - don't expect to fly with your feet on the floor, like my friend in
his Skyklane - the foot pressure as you fly will create the tension. In
other words the tension is created by the force of right foot on the right
pedal with the cable going to the rudder. The left cable comes from the
rudder to the left pedal where the force of the left foot picks up the
pressure.
The only practical value of a turn buckle would be with a Model IV or
earlier to adjust pedal position - short legs vs. long legs. The desegn
there has adjustable links that accommodater this. The newer models have
rudder pedal adjustment build in.
All tigntening the turnbuckle would do is stretch the spring. If for some
reason the light tension is a problem, just get a stronger spring. I
wouldn't do that though, there are just too many Kitfoxes flying out there
just as the factory designed them.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: RE: Series 5 building sequence
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring"
> <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
>
> Randy wrote..
>
> The springs in the adjustment mechanism take up the slack in the cables.
> I
>>suppose you could put turnbuckles in the system..
>
> Randy stop us doing something silly. I'm just the builders helper but he
> was
> complaining the other day that after having the cables swaged they were
> still too slack and he would have to have it done again. He has
> turnbuckles
> at the rudder. Without actually going into it too deeply I felt the cables
> and they did indeed feel a bit slack and perhaps the adjustment in the
> turnbuckles would not be enough to tighten them up. Are you saying this
> doesn't matter? I didn't actually think about the adjustment of the
> pedals.
> What should we do before we do something silly?
>
> Kerry
> Builders helper and translator. S5 912S.
>
>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 582 Noise Reduction |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Pete Sigrist" <psigrist@cox.net>
In the April issue of EAA Sport Pilot, John Lockwood has some comments about
this subject.
> I'd like to be kind to my neighbors and quiet my 582 in my Kitfox
> IV-1200. Has anybody fit the 582 intake silencer under the round cowl?
How
> about the exhaust silencer? Do these really help? I'd like to be as quiet
> as possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Guy Buchanan
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 582 Noise Reduction |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
Guy,
Plan on losing around 10% of your HP with the air silencer. Seeing as
SkyStar has already modified the exhaust to the detriment of HP I doubt
you'd want to lose any more horsepower. The after muffler does not cost you
power (loss is 0%).. All you lose in dollars.
(Geeese!!!, I'm a Rotax Service Center and I don't believe I just talked
someone out of buying some Rotax stuff 8
) ).
I doubt you would notice any difference with the after muffler.
Now... If you want to really quiet down your plane try this....
Add about 6 inches to your gear legs..... Change out the gear drive to a
3.47:1 set of gears....Buy a Culver 77" x 53" in prop.....Go suprise
everyone in your neighborhood as this combo makes exceptionally little
noise. The prop will pull an amazing 430-440 lbs. of thrust. It turns at a
very slow rate of 1800 rpm at 6250 engine rpm.. It turns a very quiet 1670
rpm at 5800 engine rpm.
I know this works 'cause I have built three planes with this set up.
For a couple of grand you can please the neighbors to death.
Just my two cents worth..
Bob Robertson
Light Engine Services Ltd.
Rotax Service Center
St. Albert, Ab. T8N 1M8
Ph: (Tech Support) 1-780-418-4164
Ph: (Order Line) 1-866-418-4164 (TOLL FREE)
www.rtx-av-engines.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Buchanan" <bnn@nethere.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 582 Noise Reduction
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
>
> All,
> I'd like to be kind to my neighbors and quiet my 582 in my Kitfox
> IV-1200. Has anybody fit the 582 intake silencer under the round cowl? How
> about the exhaust silencer? Do these really help? I'd like to be as quiet
> as possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Guy Buchanan
> K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar.
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Joel Mapes" <foxfloatflyer@hotmail.com>
Hi Bob,
My model 5 is coming together and the panel has a 5 position key switch and
a split master switch, selected no doubt by my years of Cessna experience. I
can see the advantage of cranking the 912ULS without spark during start-up
and could add a momentary switch to ground the mags. I am wondering how to
properly wire the ALT side of the split master to disable the charging
circuit if necessary without causing damage to anything.
Joel
Model 5 912 GTA CS prop Aerocomp amphibs
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 582 Noise Reduction |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
Bob
I found it interesting that there is a lose of HP with the intake
silencer. I used to fly a friends Fisher 303 with a 277 so equipped . It
had gobs of power and was much faster than my Fisher 202 with out it. I
know that is apples to oranges but can not imagine more out of that 277.
Dwight
At 06:26 PM 4/6/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
>
>Guy,
>Plan on losing around 10% of your HP with the air silencer. Seeing as
>SkyStar has already modified the exhaust to the detriment of HP I doubt
>you'd want to lose any more horsepower. The after muffler does not cost you
>power (loss is 0%).. All you lose in dollars.
>(Geeese!!!, I'm a Rotax Service Center and I don't believe I just talked
>someone out of buying some Rotax stuff 8
>) ).
>I doubt you would notice any difference with the after muffler.
>Now... If you want to really quiet down your plane try this....
>Add about 6 inches to your gear legs..... Change out the gear drive to a
>3.47:1 set of gears....Buy a Culver 77" x 53" in prop.....Go suprise
>everyone in your neighborhood as this combo makes exceptionally little
>noise. The prop will pull an amazing 430-440 lbs. of thrust. It turns at a
>very slow rate of 1800 rpm at 6250 engine rpm.. It turns a very quiet 1670
>rpm at 5800 engine rpm.
>I know this works 'cause I have built three planes with this set up.
>For a couple of grand you can please the neighbors to death.
>Just my two cents worth..
>Bob Robertson
>Light Engine Services Ltd.
>Rotax Service Center
>St. Albert, Ab. T8N 1M8
>Ph: (Tech Support) 1-780-418-4164
>Ph: (Order Line) 1-866-418-4164 (TOLL FREE)
>www.rtx-av-engines.ca
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Guy Buchanan" <bnn@nethere.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 582 Noise Reduction
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
> >
> > All,
> > I'd like to be kind to my neighbors and quiet my 582 in my Kitfox
> > IV-1200. Has anybody fit the 582 intake silencer under the round cowl? How
> > about the exhaust silencer? Do these really help? I'd like to be as quiet
> > as possible.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Guy Buchanan
> > K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar.
> >
> >
>
>
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