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1. 08:08 AM - brakes (customtrans@qwest.net)
2. 08:59 AM - Re: brakes (Bruce Harrington)
3. 09:02 AM - Re: a real true story.... (joakley@ida.net)
4. 09:40 AM - Re: brakes (customtrans@qwest.net)
5. 11:55 AM - brakes (kitfox@gto.net)
6. 12:32 PM - Re: brakes (flier)
7. 12:43 PM - Re: brakes (customtrans@qwest.net)
8. 12:46 PM - Re: brakes (customtrans@qwest.net)
9. 01:03 PM - Re: a real true story.... (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
10. 02:03 PM - Air speed indicator (Alan Daniels)
11. 02:03 PM - Engine Thrust Tests? (Paul Seehafer)
12. 02:22 PM - Re: brakes (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
13. 03:37 PM - Re: brakes (customtrans@qwest.net)
14. 04:18 PM - Tube Landing gear (kitfox@gto.net)
15. 04:33 PM - Re: brakes (Jimmie Blackwell)
16. 06:40 PM - Re: a real true story.... (Tim Kaser)
17. 08:05 PM - Re: brakes (david yeamans)
18. 08:59 PM - Spar protection (Zimmerman)
19. 09:38 PM - Re: Spar protection (SOURDOSTAN@aol.com)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
Hello people,
I got the KitfoxIV flying again. Wow what an improvement. This is what I
changed on the plane. I shortened the wings to the speedster wings(rebuilt
the whole right wing), I put on the grove gear, I changed the left tank to a
13 gallon(now have 26 total) I cut up the elevator and installed the trim
system, replaced all fabric and put on 2.7 ounce fabric. The weight came out
to 650 dry. I gained 50 pounds. I feel the extra weight was well worth it.
The turn rate is great. It seems to float on landing much better(ground
affect), the landing gear feels much more stable, but it takes a little more
rudder pedal to turn the plane on the ground. The trim is a nice plus, now
I don't have that nasty pressure on landing. All in all to completely redue
the plane took about 5.5 months. I spent every waking moment on this plane
and right now am really glad it's done.
One last thing for the tube landing gear people. My landing gear broke on my
accident, the AP that was helping me said the weld that let loose was
already broken about half way, the hole I hit aggrivated the brake and broke
the rest of the way. Something I hope never to go through again and hope
nobody else has to go through. My advice, if you have that old tube gear,
get rid of it.
Anyway, to my problem. The left master cylinder leaks, it seems to be
coming out of the stem and it feels like it still has air in it, but I can't
seem to find any. I bled the system with a phoenix injector from the bottom
and have the bleeder screw on the very bottom hole. The leak is pretty bad
and the last time I flew I actually slipped off the left peddle and started
going into a ground loop because I hit the brake in the process. No harm
done because I was at a very low speed at that time. After returning to the
hanger I found oil all over the floor. Any ideas?
steve allbee
KitfoxIV 912
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
Hi Steve,
1. I put over 1600 landings on my IV-1200 with tube gear. No collapses.
2. Brake cylinder may need new o-ring(s)
Cheers,
bh
ex-N194 IV-1200, 582ed, 800+ hrs
> Hello people,
snip
> One last thing for the tube landing gear people. My landing gear broke on
> my
> accident, the AP that was helping me said the weld that let loose was
> already broken about half way, the hole I hit aggrivated the brake and
> broke
> the rest of the way. Something I hope never to go through again and hope
> nobody else has to go through. My advice, if you have that old tube gear,
> get rid of it.
>
> Anyway, to my problem. The left master cylinder leaks, it seems to be
> coming out of the stem and it feels like it still has air in it, but I
> can't
> seem to find any. I bled the system with a phoenix injector from the
> bottom
> and have the bleeder screw on the very bottom hole. The leak is pretty
> bad
> and the last time I flew I actually slipped off the left peddle and
> started
> going into a ground loop because I hit the brake in the process. No harm
> done because I was at a very low speed at that time. After returning to
> the
> hanger I found oil all over the floor. Any ideas?
>
> steve allbee
> KitfoxIV 912
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| Subject: | Re: a real true story.... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: joakley@ida.net
Tim,
once again your fluff and purdy writing has me has me shamed to the point
of tears. not only can you write with great flair but like a good movie I
am riveted to the screen waiting for the next sentence. Why, you can even
spell. obviously not an engineer, must be a PR guy.
we are waiting (Dianna and I) for your first flights and the eventual
hundred dollar burger runs together.
Let me know what your new weight and balance is.
I would like your old tail gear if you want to part with it. the two may
make one good tw system.
John Oakley
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
All I can say is it takes once.
steve allbee
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bruce
Harrington
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: brakes
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
Hi Steve,
1. I put over 1600 landings on my IV-1200 with tube gear. No collapses.
2. Brake cylinder may need new o-ring(s)
Cheers,
bh
ex-N194 IV-1200, 582ed, 800+ hrs
> Hello people,
snip
> One last thing for the tube landing gear people. My landing gear broke on
> my
> accident, the AP that was helping me said the weld that let loose was
> already broken about half way, the hole I hit aggrivated the brake and
> broke
> the rest of the way. Something I hope never to go through again and hope
> nobody else has to go through. My advice, if you have that old tube gear,
> get rid of it.
>
> Anyway, to my problem. The left master cylinder leaks, it seems to be
> coming out of the stem and it feels like it still has air in it, but I
> can't
> seem to find any. I bled the system with a phoenix injector from the
> bottom
> and have the bleeder screw on the very bottom hole. The leak is pretty
> bad
> and the last time I flew I actually slipped off the left peddle and
> started
> going into a ground loop because I hit the brake in the process. No harm
> done because I was at a very low speed at that time. After returning to
> the
> hanger I found oil all over the floor. Any ideas?
>
> steve allbee
> KitfoxIV 912
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfox@gto.net
Hi Steve,
I am new here but have to comment on your post.
" My advice, if you have that old tube gear,
get rid of it."
That is a totally insane comment. It would matter if tube gear or
spring gear, if you abuse it you could lose it. (and it looks like you
did ? )
Your 4130 is very strong, perhaps you missed the the cracking on your
annual inspections , walkaround or post- hard landing inspection. I
have flown for 25 years on Skis as well and the side forces are moreso
on the gear legs and spindles and never broke a landing gear "YET" (
i hope i not jinxing myself ) .
Secondly, you should not be flying with oil leaking in cockpit. O rings
are cheap.
Good luck.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
Sorry to hear about the accident. I've got 450 hrs
and double that in landings on my tube gear in all
kinds of terrain and no probs. Friend of mine has
over 1200 hrs and lord knows how many landings.
Everyone will agree that the spring gear will take
more abuse but I personally like the looks of the
tube gear over the spring. To each his own...
--- Original Message ---
From: kitfox@gto.net
Subject: Kitfox-List: brakes
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfox@gto.net
>
>Hi Steve,
>
>I am new here but have to comment on your post.
>" My advice, if you have that old tube gear,
>get rid of it."
>
>That is a totally insane comment. It would matter
if tube gear or
>spring gear, if you abuse it you could lose it.
(and it looks like you
>did ? )
>
>Your 4130 is very strong, perhaps you missed the
the cracking on your
>annual inspections , walkaround or post- hard
landing inspection. I
>have flown for 25 years on Skis as well and the side
forces are moreso
>on the gear legs and spindles and never broke a
landing gear "YET" (
>i hope i not jinxing myself ) .
>
>Secondly, you should not be flying with oil leaking
in cockpit. O rings
>are cheap.
>
>
>Good luck.
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
I now have the grove gear. The AP that looked at the gear said it was
cracked before the incident, also the paint prevented the crack from
showing. Also skystar put an ad out on the old landing gear. The oil leak
happened on the one flight, caught it after the landing. I called grove and
was told that you need to lower the oil level in the resevoir to about 1/4
inch from the top, they Rob said to take some wire and poke it in the hole
and release the bleeder until the level is 1/4 down or it will leak out the
stem.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
kitfox@gto.net
Subject: Kitfox-List: brakes
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfox@gto.net
Hi Steve,
I am new here but have to comment on your post.
" My advice, if you have that old tube gear,
get rid of it."
That is a totally insane comment. It would matter if tube gear or
spring gear, if you abuse it you could lose it. (and it looks like you
did ? )
Your 4130 is very strong, perhaps you missed the the cracking on your
annual inspections , walkaround or post- hard landing inspection. I
have flown for 25 years on Skis as well and the side forces are moreso
on the gear legs and spindles and never broke a landing gear "YET" (
i hope i not jinxing myself ) .
Secondly, you should not be flying with oil leaking in cockpit. O rings
are cheap.
Good luck.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
One more comment, there is no insane comment when skystar themselves say to
replace the gear. And the leaking in the cockpit, that is why I asked the
question, I'm not flying it again until I fix the leak.
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
kitfox@gto.net
Subject: Kitfox-List: brakes
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfox@gto.net
Hi Steve,
I am new here but have to comment on your post.
" My advice, if you have that old tube gear,
get rid of it."
That is a totally insane comment. It would matter if tube gear or
spring gear, if you abuse it you could lose it. (and it looks like you
did ? )
Your 4130 is very strong, perhaps you missed the the cracking on your
annual inspections , walkaround or post- hard landing inspection. I
have flown for 25 years on Skis as well and the side forces are moreso
on the gear legs and spindles and never broke a landing gear "YET" (
i hope i not jinxing myself ) .
Secondly, you should not be flying with oil leaking in cockpit. O rings
are cheap.
Good luck.
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| Subject: | Re: a real true story.... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
you Idaho guys need to realize that there is airspace and hamburgers south of Pocatello
John
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> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: joakley@ida.net
>
> Tim,
> once again your fluff and purdy writing has me has me shamed to the point
> of tears. not only can you write with great flair but like a good movie I
> am riveted to the screen waiting for the next sentence. Why, you can even
> spell. obviously not an engineer, must be a PR guy.
> we are waiting (Dianna and I) for your first flights and the eventual
> hundred dollar burger runs together.
>
> Let me know what your new weight and balance is.
>
> I would like your old tail gear if you want to part with it. the two may
> make one good tw system.
>
> John Oakley
>
>
>
>
>
>
you Idaho guys need to realize that there is airspace and hamburgers south of Pocatello
John
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-- Kitfox-List message posted by: joakley@ida.net
Tim,
once again your fluff and purdy writing has me has me shamed to the point
of tears. not only can you write with great flair but like a good movie I
am riveted to the screen waiting for the next sentence. Why, you can even
spell. obviously not an engineer, must be a PR guy.
we are waiting (Dianna and I) for your first flights and the eventual
hundred dollar burger runs together.
Let me know what your new weight and balance is.
I would like your old tail gear if you want to part with it. the two may
make one good tw system.
John Oakley
Kitfox-List Email Forum -
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| Subject: | Air speed indicator |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
I have been off the list for some time now so don't know if this has
been discussed. Last time I was on I was finishing my 7 with the Kitfox
build group and had been flying my Vixen since 1996 with a CAM 100
engine. Since then my son and I built a 5 with a 7 firewall forward. I
am test flying it now. Just for your information I was at Skystar monday
and it was very good to see lots of activity again. They clearly had
been on life support for some time. I am not part of the company and
have no inside information but the look of death is gone. I also like
some of the new improvements they are making. The new cargo bay is nice,
and I really like the new clear door. The new 4 tank wing is
interesting, but unless you fly the bush in Alaska I am not sure why you
would need 55 gallons of gas. Its nice to have he option though.
The folding wing is great on the Fox, but if you have been folding the
wings ( and even if not ) and you always seems to have a tailwind when
comparing your GPS to your airspeed indicator you might want to check
your pitot system. Even a very small leak in the tubing will cause a
major change in indicated airspeed. A simple way to do that is get a
three inch or so section of tygon tubing that fits the pitot tube, put
one end in a medium size kids balloon and tape it on. Blow up the
balloon through the tube and pinch off the tube and put it on the pitot
tube. It will give you around 100 to 120 MPH reading on your airspeed
indicator. The speed is not important as it has to do with how strong
the balloon is. What is important is that the balloon does not go down.
If it deflates in a couple of minutes it could effect the indicated
airspeed by 10 to 15 or more MPH all across the range. If it goes down
you should be able to hear the air leaking and fix it by slipping a
section of tygon tubing over the damaged area.
Alan
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| Subject: | Engine Thrust Tests? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Anyone on the list ever done a thrust test on your Kitfox? Just curious
what one can expect for pulling numbers?
A friend that has a just completed a Highlander with a 912s is going to do
one on his, which incidentally also has the brand new Sensenich (sp?)
composite ground adjustable prop on it. I thought it might be useful
information for the group since at this point in time no one really knows
much about that prop. He plans on tethering the airplane to a tie down with
a heavy nylon strap with a heavy spring scale at the other end. Is this an
accurate test? Is there a better way to do it?
Paul Seehafer
Central Wisconsin
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
<<skystar themselves say to replace the gear.>>
There is always some good on any topic of discussion. Because of this
discussion, I took a trip over to the Skystar web site to look at all the service
letters/documents. I found several that I don't remember seeing before and
the dates on some didn't look quite right. Anyway, if you haven't looked at
the SL/SD info lately, it might do some good to freshen up. (under "Tech
Support")
BTW, there is one SL or SD that talks about the tube gear but it doesn't
imply or suggest going to the spring gear.
Don Smythe
Classic IV w/ 582
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
Maybe not, but they do have an updated tube gear, at least do that
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
AlbertaIV@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: brakes
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
<<skystar themselves say to replace the gear.>>
There is always some good on any topic of discussion. Because of this
discussion, I took a trip over to the Skystar web site to look at all the
service
letters/documents. I found several that I don't remember seeing before and
the dates on some didn't look quite right. Anyway, if you haven't looked
at
the SL/SD info lately, it might do some good to freshen up. (under "Tech
Support")
BTW, there is one SL or SD that talks about the tube gear but it doesn't
imply or suggest going to the spring gear.
Don Smythe
Classic IV w/ 582
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| Subject: | Tube Landing gear |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfox@gto.net
Sorry but i have to defend the tube gear as I strongly feel that there
is little wrong with it. Grove gear I have never tried mainly because
the Kitfox is such a nice handing plane with tube gear. Sorry but Tube
gear is very good. And did you know that spring gear breaks too ? it
does.
It was claimed that Skystar advised to change to Grove gear ?
According to this http://www.skystar.com/Service%20Letters/sl48.htm
It says PILOT ERROR not TUBE ERROR.
This how rumors and in-correct information gets circulated by blaming
everything but the root of the problem.
Skystar even states " It has been our experience that incorrect
handling of the aircraft on the ground (especially during landing) and
poor maintenance have led to failures in a few of these gears in the
field."
and this
"Prior to your next flight, we strongly recommend that you inspect
your landing gear carefully. Figure 2 gives some general guidelines for
this inspection. Begin by looking at all of the welded joints to insure
there are no signs of fatigue. Next, make certain all structural
members are straight, there are no dents in any members, and the bungee
cords and the safety cable are not wearing or chafing on the gear
members. The condition of the bungee should also be checked, and it
should be replaced annually."
Steve, it is hard to detect with out a trained eye for cracked welds
and/or metal fatigue. But I would strongly feel that a broken weld
would have shown up in a deformed or distorted gear that "could of "
been caught possibly. Also the stance of plane could have looked a bit
off. Black or dark coated paint or powder coating does not help to see
cracks either.
Was this gear new or used at the time ?
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
I had the same problem after installing Grove gear with Matco cylinders. If
you have Matco Brake cylinders let me know and I may be able to help you.
Jimmie
----- Original Message -----
From: <customtrans@qwest.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: brakes
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
>
> Hello people,
> I got the KitfoxIV flying again. Wow what an improvement. This is what I
> changed on the plane. I shortened the wings to the speedster
wings(rebuilt
> the whole right wing), I put on the grove gear, I changed the left tank to
a
> 13 gallon(now have 26 total) I cut up the elevator and installed the trim
> system, replaced all fabric and put on 2.7 ounce fabric. The weight came
out
> to 650 dry. I gained 50 pounds. I feel the extra weight was well worth
it.
> The turn rate is great. It seems to float on landing much better(ground
> affect), the landing gear feels much more stable, but it takes a little
more
> rudder pedal to turn the plane on the ground. The trim is a nice plus,
now
> I don't have that nasty pressure on landing. All in all to completely
redue
> the plane took about 5.5 months. I spent every waking moment on this
plane
> and right now am really glad it's done.
>
> One last thing for the tube landing gear people. My landing gear broke on
my
> accident, the AP that was helping me said the weld that let loose was
> already broken about half way, the hole I hit aggrivated the brake and
broke
> the rest of the way. Something I hope never to go through again and hope
> nobody else has to go through. My advice, if you have that old tube gear,
> get rid of it.
>
> Anyway, to my problem. The left master cylinder leaks, it seems to be
> coming out of the stem and it feels like it still has air in it, but I
can't
> seem to find any. I bled the system with a phoenix injector from the
bottom
> and have the bleeder screw on the very bottom hole. The leak is pretty
bad
> and the last time I flew I actually slipped off the left peddle and
started
> going into a ground loop because I hit the brake in the process. No harm
> done because I was at a very low speed at that time. After returning to
the
> hanger I found oil all over the floor. Any ideas?
>
> steve allbee
> KitfoxIV 912
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: a real true story.... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tim Kaser <kaser@cableone.net>
Don't expect us real soon. N316R aint quite ready for flight just yet.
Exactly what burger joint are you referring to? And will we have
enough fuel to get there? Is the field, road, or tarmac a very short
distance from said fabulous burger establishment? Finally, If its over
a hundred buck, we'll have to think about it. A lot. Some sort of
enhanced inducement might be necessary. Like absolutely garranteed
perfect weather.
Tim Kaser - - I do enjoy being enlightened
kerrjohna@comcast.net wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
>
>you Idaho guys need to realize that there is airspace and hamburgers south of
Pocatello
>
>John
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
>
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: joakley@ida.net
>>
>>Tim,
>>once again your fluff and purdy writing has me has me shamed to the point
>>of tears. not only can you write with great flair but like a good movie I
>>am riveted to the screen waiting for the next sentence. Why, you can even
>>spell. obviously not an engineer, must be a PR guy.
>>we are waiting (Dianna and I) for your first flights and the eventual
>>hundred dollar burger runs together.
>>
>>Let me know what your new weight and balance is.
>>
>>I would like your old tail gear if you want to part with it. the two may
>>make one good tw system.
>>
>>John Oakley
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>you Idaho guys need to realize that there is airspace and hamburgers south of
Pocatello
>
>John
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> -- Kitfox-List message posted by: joakley@ida.net
>
> Tim,
> once again your fluff and purdy writing has me has me shamed to the point
> of tears. not only can you write with great flair but like a good movie I
> am riveted to the screen waiting for the next sentence. Why, you can even
> spell. obviously not an engineer, must be a PR guy.
> we are waiting (Dianna and I) for your first flights and the eventual
> hundred dollar burger runs together.
>
> Let me know what your new weight and balance is.
>
> I would like your old tail gear if you want to part with it. the two may
> make one good tw system.
>
> John Oakley
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "david yeamans" <dafox@ckt.net>
Hello Steve,
I put over 500 landings on my IV-1200 with tube gear also, and no collapses.
I had
one landing ( Or I should say a touch and go ) that was a real test. I was coming
in for a
landing a little to high, so I slip it in at 45 mph, plus I had a little tail wind,
and a 200 lb
passenger, at 10 ft above the ground I took it out of the slip and it dropped like
a hot potatoe.
almost 1200 lbs fell to the ground and bounced 10 ft back into the air. I did a
go around and
landed from the other direction with no problem. I checked my tube gears with
a manifying
glass and there was not a sign of a crack. My fiberglass seat did have a crack
in the center
where it straddles the center tube which I repaired. I know that a few of the
tube gears have
given away on a side load from a strong cross wind landing.
It seems to me somewhere , sometime ago, I read where a Grove gear collapsed
under the same conditions. someone correct me if I am wrong.
N317DY IV-1200, ex 582 , 240 hrs ( Now a 912 ) David
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Harrington
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: brakes
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
Hi Steve,
1. I put over 1600 landings on my IV-1200 with tube gear. No collapses.
2. Brake cylinder may need new o-ring(s)
Cheers,
bh
ex-N194 IV-1200, 582ed, 800+ hrs
> Hello people,
snip
> One last thing for the tube landing gear people. My landing gear broke on
> my
> accident, the AP that was helping me said the weld that let loose was
> already broken about half way, the hole I hit aggrivated the brake and
> broke
> the rest of the way. Something I hope never to go through again and hope
> nobody else has to go through. My advice, if you have that old tube gear,
> get rid of it.
>
> Anyway, to my problem. The left master cylinder leaks, it seems to be
> coming out of the stem and it feels like it still has air in it, but I
> can't
> seem to find any. I bled the system with a phoenix injector from the
> bottom
> and have the bleeder screw on the very bottom hole. The leak is pretty
> bad
> and the last time I flew I actually slipped off the left peddle and
> started
> going into a ground loop because I hit the brake in the process. No harm
> done because I was at a very low speed at that time. After returning to
> the
> hanger I found oil all over the floor. Any ideas?
>
> steve allbee
> KitfoxIV 912
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Zimmerman" <jezim@pro-ns.net>
Hi,
I have a series 5 kit with the factory built wings. There is no corrosion protection
done at the factory. I am looking for ideas on protecting the inside of
the spars. The spars have the insert making it a little more difficult. Also looking
for FWF 0-200 stuff.
Thanks Jim
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: SOURDOSTAN@aol.com
Jim-
I treated the inside of my Model IV spars by getting some epoxy primer and
pouring it into the spars and turning the wing over and over and end to end
until I felt reasonably confident that I had treated all the inside surfaces.
Takes two people to handle the wing. I did one spar at a time and dumped out the
remaining primer to use in the next spar. I put tennis balls inside plastic
sandwich bags and stuffed them in the ends of the spars. I don't recall if the
Series V spars are a little bigger or not, but I think they are just
thicker-walled, so the tennis balls should work okay.
Stan Specht
Kitfox Model IV Speedster "Columbine"
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