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1. 09:12 AM - Re: Question on Model IV gross (Clint Bazzill)
2. 09:56 AM - Re: Hard Landing, was brakes (Michael Gibbs)
3. 02:23 PM - Re: Grove Gear & Back To Nome (John Anderson)
4. 02:26 PM - Re: Hard Landing, was brakes (John Anderson)
5. 02:43 PM - Re: Grove Gear & Back To Nome (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Question on Model IV gross |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
MY Book says that the Model IV-1050 the last serial no was 1722
Clint
From: Tom Jones <tomfromlapine@peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Question on Model IV gross
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tom Jones <tomfromlapine@peoplepc.com>
If you are trying to determine which you have, the easiest way is to
look at the tail. The 1200 and classic 4 have a 10 inch taller vertical
fin and rudder than the 1050 does. It looks like a P51.
http://www.sportflight.com/kitfoxlistmembers/tom1.jpg
Tom Jones
kitfox@gto.net wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfox@gto.net
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> Can some one post or email me the Differances of the Kitfox IV 1050
> gross versus the 1200 Gross.
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> What Exactly is the differances?
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> I think i read some where the Struts and spar tubes were larger.
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> I have a Kitfox with a serial number very close to the #1725 serial and
> i think that is where they changed to the classic IV.
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> Any help would be appreciated, and any other Kitfox Flyers in Ontario
> west of Toronto?
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> Thank you ,
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> Kitfox
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| Subject: | Re: Hard Landing, was brakes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
>The Grove gear failures were NOT the fault of the gear, rather
>unfortunate combination of things that caused loss of control and
>serious impact, one straight down so hard it hit the transponder
>antenna on the bottom, and one side impact that folded one leg under.
In the case of my accident, we hit the ground so hard the Model IV's
airframe broke just behind the firewall and the left wing was found
on the right side of the airplane but the Grove landing gear, which
took the direct impact, survived almost unscathed. They were
slightly bent out of alignment, but were otherwise in serviceable
condition. And the wheels stayed on the gear.
That's some strong gear.
Mike G.
N728KF
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| Subject: | Re: Grove Gear & Back To Nome |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Perhaps Don, make sure the bolts are not touching the spring? Was there not
a thread back a bit where the spring had been working and the bolts had worn
a waisted area in the spring and it busted?? See my mod on SportFlight (for
better or worse)~j~
From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Grove Gear & Back To Nome
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 4/29/2005 6:11:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
robert.mcclintock@sbcglobal.net writes:
The left leg of my Grove gear was bent inboard pretty good (bad) but the
axle bolts all held.(Tailwheel bolts were another story, lost them)
Excellent report. On the subject of the tail wheel bolts. I assume you
are
talking about the two bolts on either side of the spring that prevent side
to side motion. When I mounted my Grove tail spring I noticed I had enough
room on either side to enlarge the holes on the straps and go to a one size
larger bolt. Worked great with almost a machine fit. Might help in
standing up
to a ground loop (to a point)
Don Smythe
Classic IV w/ 582
Check out the latest video @ http://xtra.co.nz/streaming
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| Subject: | Re: Hard Landing, was brakes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Shivers!! That's the ul test!!!
Don't archive..
From: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hard Landing, was brakes
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
>The Grove gear failures were NOT the fault of the gear, rather
>unfortunate combination of things that caused loss of control and
>serious impact, one straight down so hard it hit the transponder
>antenna on the bottom, and one side impact that folded one leg under.
In the case of my accident, we hit the ground so hard the Model IV's
airframe broke just behind the firewall and the left wing was found
on the right side of the airplane but the Grove landing gear, which
took the direct impact, survived almost unscathed. They were
slightly bent out of alignment, but were otherwise in serviceable
condition. And the wheels stayed on the gear.
That's some strong gear.
Mike G.
N728KF
Check out the latest video @ http://xtra.co.nz/streaming
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| Subject: | Re: Grove Gear & Back To Nome |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 4/30/2005 5:24:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
janderson412@hotmail.com writes:
Perhaps Don, make sure the bolts are not touching the spring? Was there not
a thread back a bit where the spring had been working and the bolts had worn
a waisted area in the spring and it busted?? See my mod on SportFlight (for
Very good point. I'll have to look but I think I installed a shim between
the bolt and the spring. Or, I might have slightly flattened the side of the
bolt that faces the spring. Don't quite remember since it's been awhile.
Don Smythe
Classic IV w/ 582
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