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1. 12:28 AM - SV: Tailwheel (Michel Verheughe)
2. 02:59 AM - Spinner for Ivo Medium Prop in Kitfox Classic iv with Rotax 912S (Harry Tucker)
3. 05:55 AM - Re: A CG question (Tom Jones)
4. 06:57 AM - Re: Aircraft Survival Gear (Paul)
5. 06:57 AM - Re: OIL COOLER FAILURE (Paul)
6. 07:17 AM - Re: Aircraft Survival Gear (customtrans@qwest.net)
7. 07:23 AM - Re: A CG question (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
8. 08:37 AM - Re: Aircraft Survival Gear (Steve Zakreski)
9. 11:04 AM - Re: Parts Needed for Grove Gear (Paul Seehafer)
10. 11:10 AM - Re: OIL COOLER FAILURE ()
11. 11:42 AM - Flaperon Hanger Ribs (John Bergen)
12. 12:34 PM - camber (Alan Daniels)
13. 12:45 PM - Re: Aircraft Survival Gear (Steve Cooper)
14. 12:51 PM - Re: Aircraft Survival Gear (Steve Cooper)
15. 12:53 PM - Survival Gear (hausding, sid)
16. 01:42 PM - Re: Survival Gear (Steve Cooper)
17. 01:52 PM - Re: SV: Tailwheel (John Anderson)
18. 02:27 PM - Mosler engine & Avid first flight video on Ebay, 4549090719 (Sterling)
19. 02:29 PM - Survival Gear (hausding, sid)
20. 03:06 PM - Re: OIL COOLER FAILURE, John King. (icaza francisco)
21. 03:20 PM - Re: Survival Gear (John Perry)
22. 03:51 PM - Re: Aircraft Survival Gear (customtrans@qwest.net)
23. 04:08 PM - Fw: Survival Gear (kitfox@gto.net)
24. 04:40 PM - Lowrance Customer Support (Jim Crockett)
25. 04:56 PM - Re: camber (Clint Bazzill)
26. 05:16 PM - Re: Survival Gear (Steve Zakreski)
27. 05:47 PM - Re: Aircraft Survival Gear (Jim Carriere)
28. 06:01 PM - Tail Wheel (Rex & Jan Shaw)
29. 06:01 PM - Re: Mosler engine & Avid first flight video on Ebay, 4549090719 (skyflyte@comcast.net)
30. 07:32 PM - Re: SV: exhaust fumes (jareds)
31. 08:29 PM - Re: Mosler engine & Avid first flight video on Ebay, 4549090719 (Sterling)
32. 08:33 PM - Re: Re: Aircraft Survival Gear (Steve Cooper)
33. 08:44 PM - Re: SV: exhaust fumes (kurt schrader)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Rex & Jan Shaw [rexjan@bigpond.com]
> You could just put a sleeve over the axle 1/2" ID 5/8" OD
Yep! That's what I meant, although I had the numbers wrong.
> Actually I think it may have been my recomendation that encouraged Michel to
> buy it.
Affirmative, Captain!
Listers, Rex and I have been communicating off-list, for a while now. Rex would
like me to fly my Kitfox from Norway to Aussieland, down under. I said I would
but I am not allowed to fly inverted! (kidding!, kidding!
:-)
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Spinner for Ivo Medium Prop in Kitfox Classic iv with Rotax |
912S
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harry Tucker" <harry@jts.co.uk>
Does anyone know what spinner one can use for this prop as Ivo does not
sell one?
Do not archive
Harry Tucker
PO Box 2830, White River 1240 South Africa
Tel ++ 27 13 751 5018 Fax:++ 27 11 507 5339
Email: harry@htucker.com <mailto:harry@htucker.com>
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| Subject: | Re: A CG question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tom Jones <tomfromlapine@peoplepc.com>
> But, do you think it means that, say if the aft limit empty is 40 cm (my
> example) it won't be more than 45 cm when loaded? And that it has nothing to
do
> with aero-dynamic?
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
Yes, that is exactly what I think it means too. Do not archive.
Tom Jones
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Survival Gear |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul <pwilson@climber.org>
No cell phone? No Sat phone? With those items and your hand held GPS with new
batteries you can probably do away with 18 items. Keep the first aid kit and some
warm clothes. Once some knows where you are it would be just a short time
before they arrive to your assistance. The only other thing needed is a list of
phone numbers in the area where you will be flying. Just remember that calling
911 wont cut it for the cell phone, you will need a list of direct numbers.
What I describe are standard items for world wide explorers and others traveling
in remote places. Hikers and off road adventurers use the devices. Some omit
the satellite phone for wilderness travels near population centers or major
highways where cell phone coverage is expected. In a plane, if you have warning
and are high enough, the cell phone is a good bet as is your plane radio. Just
use your phone list and recite the coordinates and fly to a safe landing.
Regards, Paul
=============
At 6:11 PM -0700 5/10/05, Steve Cooper wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
>
>
>1. 8 ea. treble fish hooks. (great for snaring rabbits)
>2. 200 yds. of 30 lb test monofilament line.
>3. 24" ringed cable saw.
>4. Small hand ax
>5. Collapsible shovel/pick 4X8" 30 oz.
>6. 30 kitchen matches sealed in plastic cigar tubes w/strikers X2
>7. Small personal first aid kit. First aid instruction booklet.
>8. Large first aid kit stays in luggage compartment
>9. Magnesium rod fire starter
>10. 48 hours of Light sticks 12 hrs X 4 ea.
>11. 3 quarts water.
>12. Garrity 200 hour LED flashlight w/colored filters/3 tripple-A cells
>13. 1000 hours of light/spare triple-A cells
>14. One Kershaw 1650ST Stainless folding knife.
>15. One roll Charmin quilted.
>16. Cheap Digital camera (to leave a record)
>17. Signaling Mirror.
>18. Spare double-A batteries for the GPS if I can get it out of the
>plane.
>19. 7 lbs worth of the most common tools for working on the plane.
>20. Spare underclothes, warm jacket, Sleeping Bag and socks.
>
>This is what I carry in my survival day pack. Even If I'm only going
>around the pattern I have it with me. The large first aid kit and the
>tools stay in the luggage compartment. You never can tell what will
>happen. The day pack stays with me in the seat...if I have to bail I can
>grab it on my way out of the plane. If the aircraft doesn't burn, I can
>return for the ELT, Garmin 196 GPS, and the large First Aid Kit in the
>luggage compartment, the tools, the onboard battery and perhaps a little
>fuel if the tank(s) are in tact. I will probably utilize part of the
>aircraft for shelter until I get my legs under me. If I'm trapped in the
>plane, I can use the cable saw or hatchet to cut my way out. I can
>possibly use the fabric from the wings to make some sort of a shelter. I
>know some of you guys have had specialized training...what am I missing?
>I want to be ready just in case it ever happens to me!
>
>Steve Cooper
>Avid Mark IV
>Jabiru/Tailwheel
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: OIL COOLER FAILURE |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul <pwilson@climber.org>
I recommend rubber shock mounts like the cooler manufacturer recommends. The manufacturers
sell them or you can use Lord mounts which cost more. Mounting items
to an engine is hard on the item. This is why you see coolers on cars mounted
on the body, and they still recommend the use of rubber shock mounts.
Regards, Paul
=============
At 10:06 AM -0400 5/6/05, Barry wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Barry" <barryhuston@adelphia.net>
>
>Group
>
>A friend recently had an oil cooler failure ( dead stick fun ) and was told
>that it
>
>was caused by vibration and should have provided shock/vibration protection.
>
>Any Recommendations?
>
>Barry
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| Subject: | Aircraft Survival Gear |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
I went to a survival class last year at an aviation mountain seminar. I
don't have my notes and not sure where they are at this time. But top on my
list is 0000 steel wool, cell phone(use the battery to ignite the steel
wool, cotton balls, vasaline(to soak the cotton balls and have a flame that
will last at least five minutes, a steel match, a knife that has a blade
that goes through the handle(can be used to split small pieces of wood and
strike the steel match), an orange plastic bag( cut open one end and make a
poncho out of to keep dry and to use as a signal).
The list below is good, but it does take a lot of weight. The items above
are very important and can be used for a variety of things if you know how
to use them. My advice, if you can attend a mountain seminar, these things
are discussed in great detail, at least at the one I went to.
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Cooper
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
1. 8 ea. treble fish hooks. (great for snaring rabbits)
2. 200 yds. of 30 lb test monofilament line.
3. 24" ringed cable saw.
4. Small hand ax
5. Collapsible shovel/pick 4X8" 30 oz.
6. 30 kitchen matches sealed in plastic cigar tubes w/strikers X2
7. Small personal first aid kit. First aid instruction booklet.
8. Large first aid kit stays in luggage compartment
9. Magnesium rod fire starter
10. 48 hours of Light sticks 12 hrs X 4 ea.
11. 3 quarts water.
12. Garrity 200 hour LED flashlight w/colored filters/3 tripple-A cells
13. 1000 hours of light/spare triple-A cells
14. One Kershaw 1650ST Stainless folding knife.
15. One roll Charmin quilted.
16. Cheap Digital camera (to leave a record)
17. Signaling Mirror.
18. Spare double-A batteries for the GPS if I can get it out of the
plane.
19. 7 lbs worth of the most common tools for working on the plane.
20. Spare underclothes, warm jacket, Sleeping Bag and socks.
This is what I carry in my survival day pack. Even If I'm only going
around the pattern I have it with me. The large first aid kit and the
tools stay in the luggage compartment. You never can tell what will
happen. The day pack stays with me in the seat...if I have to bail I can
grab it on my way out of the plane. If the aircraft doesn't burn, I can
return for the ELT, Garmin 196 GPS, and the large First Aid Kit in the
luggage compartment, the tools, the onboard battery and perhaps a little
fuel if the tank(s) are in tact. I will probably utilize part of the
aircraft for shelter until I get my legs under me. If I'm trapped in the
plane, I can use the cable saw or hatchet to cut my way out. I can
possibly use the fabric from the wings to make some sort of a shelter. I
know some of you guys have had specialized training...what am I missing?
I want to be ready just in case it ever happens to me!
Steve Cooper
Avid Mark IV
Jabiru/Tailwheel
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| Subject: | Re: A CG question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
....or does it mean that the apparent range is greater at mtow that the craft is
more stable at the higher weight and that the reduced fuel load will actually
bring it back into the narrower range. the majority of the fuel is behind the
mean aerodynamic center. at full fuel there is little pitching moment from the
fuel but as the quantity reduces the pitching moment actually increases.
Lots of thoughts, but not sure if there is any logic.
John Kerr
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tom Jones
>
>
> > But, do you think it means that, say if the aft limit empty is 40 cm (my
> > example) it won't be more than 45 cm when loaded? And that it has nothing to
> do
> > with aero-dynamic?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michel
> >
> > do not archive
>
> Yes, that is exactly what I think it means too. Do not archive.
> Tom Jones
>
>
>
>
>
>
....or does it mean that the apparent range is greater at mtow that the craft is
more stable at the higher weight and that the reduced fuel load will actually
bring it back into the narrower range. the majority of the fuel is behind the
mean aerodynamic center. at full fuel there is little pitching moment from the
fuel but as the quantity reduces the pitching moment actually increases.
Lots of thoughts, but not sure if there is any logic.
John Kerr
-------------- Original message --------------
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: Tom Jones <TOMFROMLAPINE@PEOPLEPC.COM>
But, do you think it means that, say if the aft limit empty is 40 cm (my
example) it won't be more than 45 cm when loaded? And that it has nothing to
do
with aero-dynamic?
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
Yes, that is exactly what I think it means too. Do not archive.
Tom Jones
e, Chat, FAQ,
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| Subject: | Aircraft Survival Gear |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
I carry a small portable ELT in the cabin in addition to the aircraft ELT,
and brief all passengers how to us it. Cell phone useless in most places I
fly. Sat. phone would be very nice, though a touch pricy.
SteveZ
Calgary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul <pwilson@climber.org>
No cell phone? No Sat phone? With those items and your hand held GPS with
new batteries you can probably do away with 18 items. Keep the first aid kit
and some warm clothes. Once some knows where you are it would be just a
short time before they arrive to your assistance. The only other thing
needed is a list of phone numbers in the area where you will be flying. Just
remember that calling 911 wont cut it for the cell phone, you will need a
list of direct numbers.
What I describe are standard items for world wide explorers and others
traveling in remote places. Hikers and off road adventurers use the devices.
Some omit the satellite phone for wilderness travels near population centers
or major highways where cell phone coverage is expected. In a plane, if you
have warning and are high enough, the cell phone is a good bet as is your
plane radio. Just use your phone list and recite the coordinates and fly to
a safe landing.
Regards, Paul
=============
At 6:11 PM -0700 5/10/05, Steve Cooper wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
>
>
>1. 8 ea. treble fish hooks. (great for snaring rabbits)
>2. 200 yds. of 30 lb test monofilament line.
>3. 24" ringed cable saw.
>4. Small hand ax
>5. Collapsible shovel/pick 4X8" 30 oz.
>6. 30 kitchen matches sealed in plastic cigar tubes w/strikers X2
>7. Small personal first aid kit. First aid instruction booklet.
>8. Large first aid kit stays in luggage compartment
>9. Magnesium rod fire starter
>10. 48 hours of Light sticks 12 hrs X 4 ea.
>11. 3 quarts water.
>12. Garrity 200 hour LED flashlight w/colored filters/3 tripple-A cells
>13. 1000 hours of light/spare triple-A cells
>14. One Kershaw 1650ST Stainless folding knife.
>15. One roll Charmin quilted.
>16. Cheap Digital camera (to leave a record)
>17. Signaling Mirror.
>18. Spare double-A batteries for the GPS if I can get it out of the
>plane.
>19. 7 lbs worth of the most common tools for working on the plane.
>20. Spare underclothes, warm jacket, Sleeping Bag and socks.
>
>This is what I carry in my survival day pack. Even If I'm only going
>around the pattern I have it with me. The large first aid kit and the
>tools stay in the luggage compartment. You never can tell what will
>happen. The day pack stays with me in the seat...if I have to bail I can
>grab it on my way out of the plane. If the aircraft doesn't burn, I can
>return for the ELT, Garmin 196 GPS, and the large First Aid Kit in the
>luggage compartment, the tools, the onboard battery and perhaps a little
>fuel if the tank(s) are in tact. I will probably utilize part of the
>aircraft for shelter until I get my legs under me. If I'm trapped in the
>plane, I can use the cable saw or hatchet to cut my way out. I can
>possibly use the fabric from the wings to make some sort of a shelter. I
>know some of you guys have had specialized training...what am I missing?
>I want to be ready just in case it ever happens to me!
>
>Steve Cooper
>Avid Mark IV
>Jabiru/Tailwheel
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Parts Needed for Grove Gear |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Oops! Just talked to my friend and he says he DOES need the axles for the
20X8 Atv wheels also. So if someone can help him out that would be great.
Contact;
John @ 252-923-5145
or snaps@GoTricounty.com
Thanks
Paul Seehafer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Parts Needed for Grove Gear
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>
> A friend of mine is in need of the attaching hardware for a grove landing
> gear (he does not need the gear itself or the axles as he already has
> that). So if anyone may have some they'd like to get rid of, here is his
> contact info.
>
> John @ 252-923-5145
>
> or snaps@GoTricounty.com
>
> He's working on a model II, but I belive is interested in any Grove
> attaching hardware for any model.
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul S
> Central Wisconsin
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: OIL COOLER FAILURE |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <gjglh@cebridge.net>
I used lord mounts om my cooler and still it cracked at the seem to the
mounting hole. On the new one I purchased I beefed up the mounting flanges
Now we fly and inspect!
Gary
On Wed May 11 9:11 , Paul <pwilson@climber.org> sent:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul pwilson@climber.org>
>
>I recommend rubber shock mounts like the cooler manufacturer recommends. The
manufacturers sell them or you can use Lord mounts which cost more. Mounting
items to an engine is hard on the item. This is why you see coolers on cars
mounted on the body, and they still recommend the use of rubber shock mounts.
> Regards, Paul
>=============
>At 10:06 AM -0400 5/6/05, Barry wrote:
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Barry" barryhuston@adelphia.net>
>>
>>Group
>>
>>A friend recently had an oil cooler failure ( dead stick fun ) and was told
>>that it
>>
>>was caused by vibration and should have provided shock/vibration protection.
>>
>>Any Recommendations?
>>
>>Barry
>
>--
>
>
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| Subject: | Flaperon Hanger Ribs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Bergen" <JBergen@rrc.mb.ca>
I'm working on a Kitfox II for a friend. Several of the Flaperon Hanger
Ribs are cracked, as outlined in SB #9. The SB outlines a reinforcement
to prevent cracking but doesn't suggest a fix for already cracked webs.
Anybody have a good fix...and yes, I know AC43.13 is the grand daddy for
this stuff. I'm looking for a successful solution, not generic
suggestions, like the 43.13 has.
John
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
What are the pro's and con's of taking some of the camber out of the
grove gear. My plane has 4.5 degrees of camber in each wheel. It is
neutral with the plane level, but over 1 degree toe in with it in the
three point. I want to get the twitchy out but think it might help tire
wear and fix the problem if I take 2 to 3 degrees out of the camber per
wheel. I know it will spread some when it is heavy, but even my heavy
vixen just wears out the outside of the tires.
Alan
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| Subject: | Aircraft Survival Gear |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Thanks Steve That sounds great. I appreciate your feedback. I will look
for a seminar to attend. In the meantime I like the ideas you proposed.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
customtrans@qwest.net
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
I went to a survival class last year at an aviation mountain seminar. I
don't have my notes and not sure where they are at this time. But top
on my
list is 0000 steel wool, cell phone(use the battery to ignite the steel
wool, cotton balls, vasaline(to soak the cotton balls and have a flame
that
will last at least five minutes, a steel match, a knife that has a blade
that goes through the handle(can be used to split small pieces of wood
and
strike the steel match), an orange plastic bag( cut open one end and
make a
poncho out of to keep dry and to use as a signal).
The list below is good, but it does take a lot of weight. The items
above
are very important and can be used for a variety of things if you know
how
to use them. My advice, if you can attend a mountain seminar, these
things
are discussed in great detail, at least at the one I went to.
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Cooper
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
<spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
1. 8 ea. treble fish hooks. (great for snaring rabbits)
2. 200 yds. of 30 lb test monofilament line.
3. 24" ringed cable saw.
4. Small hand ax
5. Collapsible shovel/pick 4X8" 30 oz.
6. 30 kitchen matches sealed in plastic cigar tubes w/strikers X2
7. Small personal first aid kit. First aid instruction booklet.
8. Large first aid kit stays in luggage compartment
9. Magnesium rod fire starter
10. 48 hours of Light sticks 12 hrs X 4 ea.
11. 3 quarts water.
12. Garrity 200 hour LED flashlight w/colored filters/3 tripple-A cells
13. 1000 hours of light/spare triple-A cells
14. One Kershaw 1650ST Stainless folding knife.
15. One roll Charmin quilted.
16. Cheap Digital camera (to leave a record)
17. Signaling Mirror.
18. Spare double-A batteries for the GPS if I can get it out of the
plane.
19. 7 lbs worth of the most common tools for working on the plane.
20. Spare underclothes, warm jacket, Sleeping Bag and socks.
This is what I carry in my survival day pack. Even If I'm only going
around the pattern I have it with me. The large first aid kit and the
tools stay in the luggage compartment. You never can tell what will
happen. The day pack stays with me in the seat...if I have to bail I can
grab it on my way out of the plane. If the aircraft doesn't burn, I can
return for the ELT, Garmin 196 GPS, and the large First Aid Kit in the
luggage compartment, the tools, the onboard battery and perhaps a little
fuel if the tank(s) are in tact. I will probably utilize part of the
aircraft for shelter until I get my legs under me. If I'm trapped in the
plane, I can use the cable saw or hatchet to cut my way out. I can
possibly use the fabric from the wings to make some sort of a shelter. I
know some of you guys have had specialized training...what am I missing?
I want to be ready just in case it ever happens to me!
Steve Cooper
Avid Mark IV
Jabiru/Tailwheel
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| Subject: | Aircraft Survival Gear |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Thanks for your thoughts Paul. I will be relocating soon to Utah and
will be flying in Idaho, Washington and Oregon as well as Montana. The
terrain gets pretty remote and wicked fast up there...and no cell phone
coverage...I'm afraid the Sat phone is out of my price range for
now...someday maybe! But it's a great idea! Thanks!
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul <pwilson@climber.org>
No cell phone? No Sat phone? With those items and your hand held GPS
with new batteries you can probably do away with 18 items. Keep the
first aid kit and some warm clothes. Once some knows where you are it
would be just a short time before they arrive to your assistance. The
only other thing needed is a list of phone numbers in the area where you
will be flying. Just remember that calling 911 wont cut it for the cell
phone, you will need a list of direct numbers.
What I describe are standard items for world wide explorers and others
traveling in remote places. Hikers and off road adventurers use the
devices. Some omit the satellite phone for wilderness travels near
population centers or major highways where cell phone coverage is
expected. In a plane, if you have warning and are high enough, the cell
phone is a good bet as is your plane radio. Just use your phone list and
recite the coordinates and fly to a safe landing.
Regards, Paul
=============
At 6:11 PM -0700 5/10/05, Steve Cooper wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
<spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
>
>
>1. 8 ea. treble fish hooks. (great for snaring rabbits)
>2. 200 yds. of 30 lb test monofilament line.
>3. 24" ringed cable saw.
>4. Small hand ax
>5. Collapsible shovel/pick 4X8" 30 oz.
>6. 30 kitchen matches sealed in plastic cigar tubes w/strikers X2
>7. Small personal first aid kit. First aid instruction booklet.
>8. Large first aid kit stays in luggage compartment
>9. Magnesium rod fire starter
>10. 48 hours of Light sticks 12 hrs X 4 ea.
>11. 3 quarts water.
>12. Garrity 200 hour LED flashlight w/colored filters/3 tripple-A cells
>13. 1000 hours of light/spare triple-A cells
>14. One Kershaw 1650ST Stainless folding knife.
>15. One roll Charmin quilted.
>16. Cheap Digital camera (to leave a record)
>17. Signaling Mirror.
>18. Spare double-A batteries for the GPS if I can get it out of the
>plane.
>19. 7 lbs worth of the most common tools for working on the plane.
>20. Spare underclothes, warm jacket, Sleeping Bag and socks.
>
>This is what I carry in my survival day pack. Even If I'm only going
>around the pattern I have it with me. The large first aid kit and the
>tools stay in the luggage compartment. You never can tell what will
>happen. The day pack stays with me in the seat...if I have to bail I
can
>grab it on my way out of the plane. If the aircraft doesn't burn, I can
>return for the ELT, Garmin 196 GPS, and the large First Aid Kit in the
>luggage compartment, the tools, the onboard battery and perhaps a
little
>fuel if the tank(s) are in tact. I will probably utilize part of the
>aircraft for shelter until I get my legs under me. If I'm trapped in
the
>plane, I can use the cable saw or hatchet to cut my way out. I can
>possibly use the fabric from the wings to make some sort of a shelter.
I
>know some of you guys have had specialized training...what am I
missing?
>I want to be ready just in case it ever happens to me!
>
>Steve Cooper
>Avid Mark IV
>Jabiru/Tailwheel
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net>
I think the guys flying into Canada and or up to Alaska would have the
Canadian mandatory kit items in a listed form..........includes a firearm, I
believe. The CanAm site for entry lists the survival needs from the
government up there.............
Sid
-----------------------
-------Original Message-------
From: Steve Cooper
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Thanks Steve That sounds great. I appreciate your feedback. I will look
for a seminar to attend. In the meantime I like the ideas you proposed.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
customtrans@qwest.net
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
I went to a survival class last year at an aviation mountain seminar. I
don't have my notes and not sure where they are at this time. But top
on my
list is 0000 steel wool, cell phone(use the battery to ignite the steel
wool, cotton balls, vasaline(to soak the cotton balls and have a flame
that
will last at least five minutes, a steel match, a knife that has a blade
that goes through the handle(can be used to split small pieces of wood
and
strike the steel match), an orange plastic bag( cut open one end and
make a
poncho out of to keep dry and to use as a signal).
The list below is good, but it does take a lot of weight. The items
above
are very important and can be used for a variety of things if you know
how
to use them. My advice, if you can attend a mountain seminar, these
things
are discussed in great detail, at least at the one I went to.
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Cooper
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
<spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
1. 8 ea. treble fish hooks. (great for snaring rabbits)
2. 200 yds. of 30 lb test monofilament line.
3. 24" ringed cable saw.
4. Small hand ax
5. Collapsible shovel/pick 4X8" 30 oz.
6. 30 kitchen matches sealed in plastic cigar tubes w/strikers X2
7. Small personal first aid kit. First aid instruction booklet.
8. Large first aid kit stays in luggage compartment
9. Magnesium rod fire starter
10. 48 hours of Light sticks 12 hrs X 4 ea.
11. 3 quarts water.
12. Garrity 200 hour LED flashlight w/colored filters/3 tripple-A cells
13. 1000 hours of light/spare triple-A cells
14. One Kershaw 1650ST Stainless folding knife.
15. One roll Charmin quilted.
16. Cheap Digital camera (to leave a record)
17. Signaling Mirror.
18. Spare double-A batteries for the GPS if I can get it out of the
plane.
19. 7 lbs worth of the most common tools for working on the plane.
20. Spare underclothes, warm jacket, Sleeping Bag and socks.
This is what I carry in my survival day pack. Even If I'm only going
around the pattern I have it with me. The large first aid kit and the
tools stay in the luggage compartment. You never can tell what will
happen. The day pack stays with me in the seat...if I have to bail I can
grab it on my way out of the plane. If the aircraft doesn't burn, I can
return for the ELT, Garmin 196 GPS, and the large First Aid Kit in the
luggage compartment, the tools, the onboard battery and perhaps a little
fuel if the tank(s) are in tact. I will probably utilize part of the
aircraft for shelter until I get my legs under me. If I'm trapped in the
plane, I can use the cable saw or hatchet to cut my way out. I can
possibly use the fabric from the wings to make some sort of a shelter. I
know some of you guys have had specialized training...what am I missing?
I want to be ready just in case it ever happens to me!
Steve Cooper
Avid Mark IV
Jabiru/Tailwheel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Hey, Thanks Sid. Ya, I'd like to get my hands on a list like that. As
far as firearm goes...I know a lot of the guys carry one. I'm thinking
about the Springfield M-6. It's a 410 on top and the new(?) 22 round on
the bottom. It's the same firearm attached to the ejection seat of the
F-16. You know what...I sure hope I never need anything like this...but
if I don't have it with me Murphy's will kick in and I'll be SOL! Het
Sid...If your plane is finished in time you might consider flying over .
John Wright, Cris, myself and a few others are going to do the remote
fly-in thing...Moose Lake rings a bell...it's a short strip but the
Avids have no problem getting in and out...whatcha think? It will be
next year. It would be cool
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of hausding,
sid
Subject: Kitfox-List: Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net>
I think the guys flying into Canada and or up to Alaska would have the
Canadian mandatory kit items in a listed form..........includes a
firearm, I
believe. The CanAm site for entry lists the survival needs from the
government up there.............
Sid
-----------------------
-------Original Message-------
From: Steve Cooper
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
<spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Thanks Steve That sounds great. I appreciate your feedback. I will look
for a seminar to attend. In the meantime I like the ideas you proposed.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
customtrans@qwest.net
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
I went to a survival class last year at an aviation mountain seminar. I
don't have my notes and not sure where they are at this time. But top
on my
list is 0000 steel wool, cell phone(use the battery to ignite the steel
wool, cotton balls, vasaline(to soak the cotton balls and have a flame
that
will last at least five minutes, a steel match, a knife that has a blade
that goes through the handle(can be used to split small pieces of wood
and
strike the steel match), an orange plastic bag( cut open one end and
make a
poncho out of to keep dry and to use as a signal).
The list below is good, but it does take a lot of weight. The items
above
are very important and can be used for a variety of things if you know
how
to use them. My advice, if you can attend a mountain seminar, these
things
are discussed in great detail, at least at the one I went to.
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Cooper
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
<spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
1. 8 ea. treble fish hooks. (great for snaring rabbits)
2. 200 yds. of 30 lb test monofilament line.
3. 24" ringed cable saw.
4. Small hand ax
5. Collapsible shovel/pick 4X8" 30 oz.
6. 30 kitchen matches sealed in plastic cigar tubes w/strikers X2
7. Small personal first aid kit. First aid instruction booklet.
8. Large first aid kit stays in luggage compartment
9. Magnesium rod fire starter
10. 48 hours of Light sticks 12 hrs X 4 ea.
11. 3 quarts water.
12. Garrity 200 hour LED flashlight w/colored filters/3 tripple-A cells
13. 1000 hours of light/spare triple-A cells
14. One Kershaw 1650ST Stainless folding knife.
15. One roll Charmin quilted.
16. Cheap Digital camera (to leave a record)
17. Signaling Mirror.
18. Spare double-A batteries for the GPS if I can get it out of the
plane.
19. 7 lbs worth of the most common tools for working on the plane.
20. Spare underclothes, warm jacket, Sleeping Bag and socks.
This is what I carry in my survival day pack. Even If I'm only going
around the pattern I have it with me. The large first aid kit and the
tools stay in the luggage compartment. You never can tell what will
happen. The day pack stays with me in the seat...if I have to bail I can
grab it on my way out of the plane. If the aircraft doesn't burn, I can
return for the ELT, Garmin 196 GPS, and the large First Aid Kit in the
luggage compartment, the tools, the onboard battery and perhaps a little
fuel if the tank(s) are in tact. I will probably utilize part of the
aircraft for shelter until I get my legs under me. If I'm trapped in the
plane, I can use the cable saw or hatchet to cut my way out. I can
possibly use the fabric from the wings to make some sort of a shelter. I
know some of you guys have had specialized training...what am I missing?
I want to be ready just in case it ever happens to me!
Steve Cooper
Avid Mark IV
Jabiru/Tailwheel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Ha ha Michel, you've been fooled all this time. We are on top after all.
J A NZ...
From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: Tailwheel
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>From: Rex & Jan Shaw [rexjan@bigpond.com]
>You could just put a sleeve over the axle 1/2" ID 5/8" OD
Yep! That's what I meant, although I had the numbers wrong.
>Actually I think it may have been my recomendation that encouraged Michel
>to
>buy it.
Affirmative, Captain!
Listers, Rex and I have been communicating off-list, for a while now. Rex
would like me to fly my Kitfox from Norway to Aussieland, down under. I said
I would but I am not allowed to fly inverted! (kidding!,
kidding! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
Need more speed? Get Xtra Broadband @
http://jetstream.xtra.co.nz/chm/0,,202853-1000,00.html
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| Subject: | Mosler engine & Avid first flight video on Ebay, 4549090719 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Sterling" <sterling@pgrb.com>
For your viewing pleasure, I've submitted a DVD on Ebay showing my first flight
in an airplane I built back in 1992ish. The DVD shows my first flight in my Avid
Sportster I named, Felix The Kit. The video was shot totally from a cockpit
perspective with superwide angle lenses using a couple of tiny microcams.
For anyone contemplating installing a VW based engine in an Kitfox or other homebuilt,
I've added to my DVD the Mosler 82X Installation video that I produced
for my client Mosler Motors, formerly based in North Carolina, and no longer
in business. The installation video highlights the numerous basic steps of installing
their engine in an Avid. It runs a tad over 33 minutes. For more info
about the Mosler engine, see my auction. This segment will help most anyone thinking
about installing a VW engine in a Kitfox.
I started working in television in 1973. My website is listed on the auction.
My first flight and wild ride in my Avid (with two cameras rolling) runs about
8 minutes.
Ebay item number 4549090719
Sterling Brooks
Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch.
5TA6, San Antonio Sectional
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net>
Yepper, my personal life should be all cleared up and VFR by then..........
do not archive..
---------------------------------
Hey, Thanks Sid. Ya, I'd like to get my hands on a list like that. As
far as firearm goes...I know a lot of the guys carry one. I'm thinking
about the Springfield M-6. It's a 410 on top and the new(?) 22 round on
the bottom. It's the same firearm attached to the ejection seat of the
F-16. You know what...I sure hope I never need anything like this...but
if I don't have it with me Murphy's will kick in and I'll be SOL! Het
Sid...If your plane is finished in time you might consider flying over .
John Wright, Cris, myself and a few others are going to do the remote
fly-in thing...Moose Lake rings a bell...it's a short strip but the
Avids have no problem getting in and out...whatcha think? It will be
next year. It would be cool
Steve
------------------------------------------------
I think the guys flying into Canada and or up to Alaska would have the
Canadian mandatory kit items in a listed form..........includes a
firearm, I
believe. The CanAm site for entry lists the survival needs from the
government up there.............
Sid
-----------------------
-------Original Message-------
From: Steve Cooper
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
<spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Thanks Steve That sounds great. I appreciate your feedback. I will look
for a seminar to attend. In the meantime I like the ideas you proposed.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
customtrans@qwest.net
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
I went to a survival class last year at an aviation mountain seminar. I
don't have my notes and not sure where they are at this time. But top
on my
list is 0000 steel wool, cell phone(use the battery to ignite the steel
wool, cotton balls, vasaline(to soak the cotton balls and have a flame
that
will last at least five minutes, a steel match, a knife that has a blade
that goes through the handle(can be used to split small pieces of wood
and
strike the steel match), an orange plastic bag( cut open one end and
make a
poncho out of to keep dry and to use as a signal).
The list below is good, but it does take a lot of weight. The items
above
are very important and can be used for a variety of things if you know
how
to use them. My advice, if you can attend a mountain seminar, these
things
are discussed in great detail, at least at the one I went to.
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Cooper
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
<spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
1. 8 ea. treble fish hooks. (great for snaring rabbits)
2. 200 yds. of 30 lb test monofilament line.
3. 24" ringed cable saw.
4. Small hand ax
5. Collapsible shovel/pick 4X8" 30 oz.
6. 30 kitchen matches sealed in plastic cigar tubes w/strikers X2
7. Small personal first aid kit. First aid instruction booklet.
8. Large first aid kit stays in luggage compartment
9. Magnesium rod fire starter
10. 48 hours of Light sticks 12 hrs X 4 ea.
11. 3 quarts water.
12. Garrity 200 hour LED flashlight w/colored filters/3 tripple-A cells
13. 1000 hours of light/spare triple-A cells
14. One Kershaw 1650ST Stainless folding knife.
15. One roll Charmin quilted.
16. Cheap Digital camera (to leave a record)
17. Signaling Mirror.
18. Spare double-A batteries for the GPS if I can get it out of the
plane.
19. 7 lbs worth of the most common tools for working on the plane.
20. Spare underclothes, warm jacket, Sleeping Bag and socks.
This is what I carry in my survival day pack. Even If I'm only going
around the pattern I have it with me. The large first aid kit and the
tools stay in the luggage compartment. You never can tell what will
happen. The day pack stays with me in the seat...if I have to bail I can
grab it on my way out of the plane. If the aircraft doesn't burn, I can
return for the ELT, Garmin 196 GPS, and the large First Aid Kit in the
luggage compartment, the tools, the onboard battery and perhaps a little
fuel if the tank(s) are in tact. I will probably utilize part of the
aircraft for shelter until I get my legs under me. If I'm trapped in the
plane, I can use the cable saw or hatchet to cut my way out. I can
possibly use the fabric from the wings to make some sort of a shelter. I
know some of you guys have had specialized training...what am I missing?
I want to be ready just in case it ever happens to me!
Steve Cooper
Avid Mark IV
Jabiru/Tailwheel
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| Subject: | Re: OIL COOLER FAILURE, John King. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: icaza francisco <franicaza@yahoo.com.mx>
Thanks John,
Francisco.
--- John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net> escribi:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King
> <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
>
> Francisco,
>
> I later reinforced the vertical sides of the
> mounting bracket (going
> from the oil cooler to the engine) with an
> additional aluminum plates
> (one plate per vertical side) using rivets and Hlsol
> epoxy cement. I
> felt it had to be stiffened due to effects of
> lateral vibration during
> start-up and shut down.
>
> --
> John King
> Warrenton, VA
>
>
> icaza francisco wrote:
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: icaza francisco
> <franicaza@yahoo.com.mx>
> >
> >John, I also would like to see your photos, if
> >possible. This is something Im worried it can
> happen
> >during a flight.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Francisco.
> >
> >
> > --- Giovanni Day <gde01@bellsouth.net> escribi:
> >
> >
> >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day"
> >><gde01@bellsouth.net>
> >>
> >>I would like to see a photo also. Thanks
> >>
> >>Giovanni
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> >>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On
> >>Behalf Of John King
> >>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: OIL COOLER FAILURE
> >>
> >>
> >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King
> >><kingjohne@adelphia.net>
> >>
> >>Barry,
> >>
> >>Earl's which makes a lot of things for high
> >>performance race cars has a
> >>mount for their oil coolers. This worked great on
> >>both my Model
> >>IV-1200/912UL and Series 6/912S engines. It has
> >>vibration protection.
> >>You have to build an attach bracket to mount it on
> a
> >>912. I have
> >>pictures of it if you like.
> >>
> >>--
> >>John King
> >>Warrenton, VA
> >>
> >>
> >>Barry wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
La mejor conexin a internet y 25MB extra a tu correo por $100 al mes. http://net.yahoo.com.mx
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
It was required in Alaska to carry a firearm but the shitty Canadian
goverment will impound your aircraft and you and the firearm if brought into
Canada . Another thing we let Canadians with bad records in to Alaska and
America but the crappy canadian goverment will not let our people in with
records to there name especially if you have ever had a DUI . We let drunks
in all the time but we cannot go into Crappy canada. . OK ill stop ranting
and go drink another rum and coke .
Fly safe fly low fly slow
John Perry
-------Original Message-------
From: Steve Cooper
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Hey, Thanks Sid. Ya, I'd like to get my hands on a list like that. As
far as firearm goes...I know a lot of the guys carry one. I'm thinking
about the Springfield M-6. It's a 410 on top and the new(?) 22 round on
the bottom. It's the same firearm attached to the ejection seat of the
F-16. You know what...I sure hope I never need anything like this...but
if I don't have it with me Murphy's will kick in and I'll be SOL! Het
Sid...If your plane is finished in time you might consider flying over .
John Wright, Cris, myself and a few others are going to do the remote
fly-in thing...Moose Lake rings a bell...it's a short strip but the
Avids have no problem getting in and out...whatcha think? It will be
next year. It would be cool
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of hausding,
sid
Subject: Kitfox-List: Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net>
I think the guys flying into Canada and or up to Alaska would have the
Canadian mandatory kit items in a listed form..........includes a
firearm, I
believe. The CanAm site for entry lists the survival needs from the
government up there.............
Sid
-----------------------
-------Original Message-------
From: Steve Cooper
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
<spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Thanks Steve That sounds great. I appreciate your feedback. I will look
for a seminar to attend. In the meantime I like the ideas you proposed.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
customtrans@qwest.net
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
I went to a survival class last year at an aviation mountain seminar. I
don't have my notes and not sure where they are at this time. But top
on my
list is 0000 steel wool, cell phone(use the battery to ignite the steel
wool, cotton balls, vasaline(to soak the cotton balls and have a flame
that
will last at least five minutes, a steel match, a knife that has a blade
that goes through the handle(can be used to split small pieces of wood
and
strike the steel match), an orange plastic bag( cut open one end and
make a
poncho out of to keep dry and to use as a signal).
The list below is good, but it does take a lot of weight. The items
above
are very important and can be used for a variety of things if you know
how
to use them. My advice, if you can attend a mountain seminar, these
things
are discussed in great detail, at least at the one I went to.
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Cooper
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
<spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
1. 8 ea. treble fish hooks. (great for snaring rabbits)
2. 200 yds. of 30 lb test monofilament line.
3. 24" ringed cable saw.
4. Small hand ax
5. Collapsible shovel/pick 4X8" 30 oz.
6. 30 kitchen matches sealed in plastic cigar tubes w/strikers X2
7. Small personal first aid kit. First aid instruction booklet.
8. Large first aid kit stays in luggage compartment
9. Magnesium rod fire starter
10. 48 hours of Light sticks 12 hrs X 4 ea.
11. 3 quarts water.
12. Garrity 200 hour LED flashlight w/colored filters/3 tripple-A cells
13. 1000 hours of light/spare triple-A cells
14. One Kershaw 1650ST Stainless folding knife.
15. One roll Charmin quilted.
16. Cheap Digital camera (to leave a record)
17. Signaling Mirror.
18. Spare double-A batteries for the GPS if I can get it out of the
plane.
19. 7 lbs worth of the most common tools for working on the plane.
20. Spare underclothes, warm jacket, Sleeping Bag and socks.
This is what I carry in my survival day pack. Even If I'm only going
around the pattern I have it with me. The large first aid kit and the
tools stay in the luggage compartment. You never can tell what will
happen. The day pack stays with me in the seat...if I have to bail I can
grab it on my way out of the plane. If the aircraft doesn't burn, I can
return for the ELT, Garmin 196 GPS, and the large First Aid Kit in the
luggage compartment, the tools, the onboard battery and perhaps a little
fuel if the tank(s) are in tact. I will probably utilize part of the
aircraft for shelter until I get my legs under me. If I'm trapped in the
plane, I can use the cable saw or hatchet to cut my way out. I can
possibly use the fabric from the wings to make some sort of a shelter. I
know some of you guys have had specialized training...what am I missing?
I want to be ready just in case it ever happens to me!
Steve Cooper
Avid Mark IV
Jabiru/Tailwheel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
I just remembered another thing that was brought up, wear cotton socks and
then walk through the grass in the am and squeeze them out for your water.
Like I said the seminar was very good. This one was in Wenatchee Wa. I
also did the flight the next day, learned the hammerhead wingover for when
you are in a tight spot and can't turn around, way cool.
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Cooper
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Thanks Steve That sounds great. I appreciate your feedback. I will look
for a seminar to attend. In the meantime I like the ideas you proposed.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
customtrans@qwest.net
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
I went to a survival class last year at an aviation mountain seminar. I
don't have my notes and not sure where they are at this time. But top
on my
list is 0000 steel wool, cell phone(use the battery to ignite the steel
wool, cotton balls, vasaline(to soak the cotton balls and have a flame
that
will last at least five minutes, a steel match, a knife that has a blade
that goes through the handle(can be used to split small pieces of wood
and
strike the steel match), an orange plastic bag( cut open one end and
make a
poncho out of to keep dry and to use as a signal).
The list below is good, but it does take a lot of weight. The items
above
are very important and can be used for a variety of things if you know
how
to use them. My advice, if you can attend a mountain seminar, these
things
are discussed in great detail, at least at the one I went to.
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Cooper
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
<spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
1. 8 ea. treble fish hooks. (great for snaring rabbits)
2. 200 yds. of 30 lb test monofilament line.
3. 24" ringed cable saw.
4. Small hand ax
5. Collapsible shovel/pick 4X8" 30 oz.
6. 30 kitchen matches sealed in plastic cigar tubes w/strikers X2
7. Small personal first aid kit. First aid instruction booklet.
8. Large first aid kit stays in luggage compartment
9. Magnesium rod fire starter
10. 48 hours of Light sticks 12 hrs X 4 ea.
11. 3 quarts water.
12. Garrity 200 hour LED flashlight w/colored filters/3 tripple-A cells
13. 1000 hours of light/spare triple-A cells
14. One Kershaw 1650ST Stainless folding knife.
15. One roll Charmin quilted.
16. Cheap Digital camera (to leave a record)
17. Signaling Mirror.
18. Spare double-A batteries for the GPS if I can get it out of the
plane.
19. 7 lbs worth of the most common tools for working on the plane.
20. Spare underclothes, warm jacket, Sleeping Bag and socks.
This is what I carry in my survival day pack. Even If I'm only going
around the pattern I have it with me. The large first aid kit and the
tools stay in the luggage compartment. You never can tell what will
happen. The day pack stays with me in the seat...if I have to bail I can
grab it on my way out of the plane. If the aircraft doesn't burn, I can
return for the ELT, Garmin 196 GPS, and the large First Aid Kit in the
luggage compartment, the tools, the onboard battery and perhaps a little
fuel if the tank(s) are in tact. I will probably utilize part of the
aircraft for shelter until I get my legs under me. If I'm trapped in the
plane, I can use the cable saw or hatchet to cut my way out. I can
possibly use the fabric from the wings to make some sort of a shelter. I
know some of you guys have had specialized training...what am I missing?
I want to be ready just in case it ever happens to me!
Steve Cooper
Avid Mark IV
Jabiru/Tailwheel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfox@gto.net
Hi, I am astonished that an adult can write such childish gibberish
like this.
How would the Americans feel if ss (shitty ) Canadians spoke how we
feel about some of the US political views?
Enough said ! But I joined this list to share Kitfox info, certainly
not this shitty crap from un-intelligent persons that seem to be
quite ignorant to reality.
btw -- in Canada you only need survival gear for flying over sparsley
settled areas and there is more in Canada that barrens and Igloos.
Sheeesh
Very Disgusted ,
Kirby
///Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Survival Gear
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
>
> It was required in Alaska to carry a firearm but the shitty Canadian
> goverment will impound your aircraft and you and the firearm if
brought into
> Canada . Another thing we let Canadians with bad records in to Alaska
and
> America but the crappy canadian goverment will not let our people in
with
> records to there name especially if you have ever had a DUI . We let
drunks
> in all the time but we cannot go into Crappy canada. . OK ill stop
ranting
> and go drink another rum and coke .
> Fly safe fly low fly slow
> John Perry
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| Subject: | Lowrance Customer Support |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crockett <jimc@cybrquest.com>
Just thought I'd put in some kudos for Lowrance. I have an Airmap 100
about 8 years old and dropped it on a ceramic tile floor, neatly
cracking the screen. Called the tech support number - they said they
still supported the 100 and to send it in, and for $74.95 they would fix it.
It arrived by FedEx today - a new Airmap 100 with an up-to-date Jeppeson
database. I am a happy camper and much impressed with Lowrance and
their prompt service.
Jim Crockett
Kitfox V/912UL
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
That is not going to do you any good. When the gear is unloaded and you
touch down, almost all of your wear is on that first sqreech. Clint Bazzill
From: Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: camber
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
What are the pro's and con's of taking some of the camber out of the
grove gear. My plane has 4.5 degrees of camber in each wheel. It is
neutral with the plane level, but over 1 degree toe in with it in the
three point. I want to get the twitchy out but think it might help tire
wear and fix the problem if I take 2 to 3 degrees out of the camber per
wheel. I know it will spread some when it is heavy, but even my heavy
vixen just wears out the outside of the tires.
Alan
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Hey, we're tied:
Canada 1
USA 1
;-)
SteveZ
Calgary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Perry
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
It was required in Alaska to carry a firearm but the shitty Canadian
goverment will impound your aircraft and you and the firearm if brought into
Canada . Another thing we let Canadians with bad records in to Alaska and
America but the crappy canadian goverment will not let our people in with
records to there name especially if you have ever had a DUI . We let drunks
in all the time but we cannot go into Crappy canada. . OK ill stop ranting
and go drink another rum and coke .
Fly safe fly low fly slow
John Perry
-------Original Message-------
From: Steve Cooper
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Hey, Thanks Sid. Ya, I'd like to get my hands on a list like that. As
far as firearm goes...I know a lot of the guys carry one. I'm thinking
about the Springfield M-6. It's a 410 on top and the new(?) 22 round on
the bottom. It's the same firearm attached to the ejection seat of the
F-16. You know what...I sure hope I never need anything like this...but
if I don't have it with me Murphy's will kick in and I'll be SOL! Het
Sid...If your plane is finished in time you might consider flying over .
John Wright, Cris, myself and a few others are going to do the remote
fly-in thing...Moose Lake rings a bell...it's a short strip but the
Avids have no problem getting in and out...whatcha think? It will be
next year. It would be cool
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of hausding,
sid
Subject: Kitfox-List: Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net>
I think the guys flying into Canada and or up to Alaska would have the
Canadian mandatory kit items in a listed form..........includes a
firearm, I
believe. The CanAm site for entry lists the survival needs from the
government up there.............
Sid
-----------------------
-------Original Message-------
From: Steve Cooper
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
<spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Thanks Steve That sounds great. I appreciate your feedback. I will look
for a seminar to attend. In the meantime I like the ideas you proposed.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
customtrans@qwest.net
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
I went to a survival class last year at an aviation mountain seminar. I
don't have my notes and not sure where they are at this time. But top
on my
list is 0000 steel wool, cell phone(use the battery to ignite the steel
wool, cotton balls, vasaline(to soak the cotton balls and have a flame
that
will last at least five minutes, a steel match, a knife that has a blade
that goes through the handle(can be used to split small pieces of wood
and
strike the steel match), an orange plastic bag( cut open one end and
make a
poncho out of to keep dry and to use as a signal).
The list below is good, but it does take a lot of weight. The items
above
are very important and can be used for a variety of things if you know
how
to use them. My advice, if you can attend a mountain seminar, these
things
are discussed in great detail, at least at the one I went to.
steve a
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Cooper
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
<spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
1. 8 ea. treble fish hooks. (great for snaring rabbits)
2. 200 yds. of 30 lb test monofilament line.
3. 24" ringed cable saw.
4. Small hand ax
5. Collapsible shovel/pick 4X8" 30 oz.
6. 30 kitchen matches sealed in plastic cigar tubes w/strikers X2
7. Small personal first aid kit. First aid instruction booklet.
8. Large first aid kit stays in luggage compartment
9. Magnesium rod fire starter
10. 48 hours of Light sticks 12 hrs X 4 ea.
11. 3 quarts water.
12. Garrity 200 hour LED flashlight w/colored filters/3 tripple-A cells
13. 1000 hours of light/spare triple-A cells
14. One Kershaw 1650ST Stainless folding knife.
15. One roll Charmin quilted.
16. Cheap Digital camera (to leave a record)
17. Signaling Mirror.
18. Spare double-A batteries for the GPS if I can get it out of the
plane.
19. 7 lbs worth of the most common tools for working on the plane.
20. Spare underclothes, warm jacket, Sleeping Bag and socks.
This is what I carry in my survival day pack. Even If I'm only going
around the pattern I have it with me. The large first aid kit and the
tools stay in the luggage compartment. You never can tell what will
happen. The day pack stays with me in the seat...if I have to bail I can
grab it on my way out of the plane. If the aircraft doesn't burn, I can
return for the ELT, Garmin 196 GPS, and the large First Aid Kit in the
luggage compartment, the tools, the onboard battery and perhaps a little
fuel if the tank(s) are in tact. I will probably utilize part of the
aircraft for shelter until I get my legs under me. If I'm trapped in the
plane, I can use the cable saw or hatchet to cut my way out. I can
possibly use the fabric from the wings to make some sort of a shelter. I
know some of you guys have had specialized training...what am I missing?
I want to be ready just in case it ever happens to me!
Steve Cooper
Avid Mark IV
Jabiru/Tailwheel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Carriere <jimcarriere@yahoo.com>
________________________________ Message 40
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:11:56 PM PST US
> From: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
> <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
>
>
> 1. 8 ea. treble fish hooks. (great for snaring rabbits)
> 2. 200 yds. of 30 lb test monofilament line.
> 3. 24" ringed cable saw.
> 4. Small hand ax
> 5. Collapsible shovel/pick 4X8" 30 oz.
> 6. 30 kitchen matches sealed in plastic cigar tubes w/strikers X2
> 7. Small personal first aid kit. First aid instruction booklet.
> 8. Large first aid kit stays in luggage compartment
> 9. Magnesium rod fire starter
> 10. 48 hours of Light sticks 12 hrs X 4 ea.
> 11. 3 quarts water.
> 12. Garrity 200 hour LED flashlight w/colored filters/3 tripple-A
> cells
> 13. 1000 hours of light/spare triple-A cells
> 14. One Kershaw 1650ST Stainless folding knife.
> 15. One roll Charmin quilted.
> 16. Cheap Digital camera (to leave a record)
> 17. Signaling Mirror.
> 18. Spare double-A batteries for the GPS if I can get it out of
> the
> plane.
> 19. 7 lbs worth of the most common tools for working on the plane.
> 20. Spare underclothes, warm jacket, Sleeping Bag and socks.
You covered the most important elements- first aid, water,
warmth/shelter, and signalling. Most important is a desire to live,
but obviously you can't pack that in your kit.
Some of your focus seems on surviving in the wild, but make sure you
have a way to get water after your three quarts (about one day) are
used up. You can dig through snow and ice with the axe, shovel, and
knife, but are your water containers suitable for scooping up water
from a shallow stream? No sense getting cold, wet, and muddy every
time you are thirsty. Also, are will you need to purify it?
If you've never caught and cooked a wild animal or been shown how
to, don't rely too much on feeding yourself this way. I'd recommend
you pack a few power bars to eat instead. Besides, if you have
enough clean drinking water, you can last several days without
eating anything. Consider your expected waiting time to be rescued
in different seasons in your area.
A few specific comments on your equipment. The camera and toilet
paper are somewhat luxury items, but I guess they're not excessively
heavy. The hand tools, line, and firestarting tools are good
choices. Other than the mirror (and hopefully the aircraft radio),
what about flares for signalling? For your shelter, do you have a
way of insulating yourself from the ground (like a foam pad) and
rain? Don't underestimate that in the cold weather. You could use
the wreckage of your airplane, I'm just asking if you already have a
solution in mind. Last, I wouldn't put too much trust in the
temperature rating of your sleeping bag if you were in perfect
health (never mind injured, tired, and hungry).
I've been through survival training (in the winter nonetheless), so
this is what I remember off the top of my head. Hope it helps.
Jim in NW FL, Series 7 in progress
__________________________________
http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Rex:
Thanks for the information! If I buy sealed bearings
P/N 06-00060, would I need the sleeve over the axle,
1/2" ID 5/8" OD. Would an aluminum sleeve work?
Regards!
Jose
Sorry but as I said I didn't buy these bearings so I don't know. You will
need to check elsewhere or with Aircraft Spruce if you can get satisfaction
from them in answering such questions. I could get no reply. However my best
guess is that with these bearings they are just better quality and sealed.
The originals are not sealed. Therefore you probably still need the 1/2ID
5/8OD spacer tube. Personally I would prefer steel as aluminium might be too
soft. If you have trouble getting the exact size remember all you need is
1/16" wall thickness and you can split the tube to close it up or even open
it out very slightly as a small gap of up to1/8" should not cause a problem.
I think the original bearings are very poor quality apart from not being
sealed so as I also said next time I would go for the sealed 06-00060
bearings. Actually I bought locally some sealed NSK bearings P/N
CB-6202ZZ/12.7. These are 1/2" ID and fit the shaft. OD is 35mm and the bore
in the HBS wheel is 1 3/8" so you need to clean it out a couple of thou.
Also the original bearings have shoulders on so they don't go all the way
into the bore in the wheel. So I placed large washers with thin felt seals
against the sides of the wheel to stop the wheel moving sideways and sliding
off the bearings. You also need a spacer between the bearings. I kept the
bearings very tight in the bore and also used loctite. I removed the seals
on the inside of the new bearings to allow greasing. The so called grease
nipple on the HBS wheel is just a hole but looks like a nipple. It is
pressed in with a barb on it but you can work it out, thread the hole and
fit a proper nipple. I still had difficulty getting grease in though due to
built up air pressure.
I suggest you look into what the 06-00060 bearings are as this might be a
bit easier.
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Re: Mosler engine & Avid first flight video on Ebay, 4549090719 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: skyflyte@comcast.net
Enough of this, please. We had a very nice video of early Kitfox learning/training/flying,
and the author offered it for free, and many send in donations.
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Sterling"
>
> For your viewing pleasure, I've submitted a DVD on Ebay showing my first flight
> in an airplane I built back in 1992ish. The DVD shows my first flight in my Avid
> Sportster I named, Felix The Kit. The video was shot totally from a cockpit
> perspective with superwide angle lenses using a couple of tiny microcams.
>
> For anyone contemplating installing a VW based engine in an Kitfox or other
> homebuilt, I've added to my DVD the Mosler 82X Installation video that I
> produced for my client Mosler Motors, formerly based in North Carolina, and no
> longer in business. The installation video highlights the numerous basic steps
> of installing their engine in an Avid. It runs a tad over 33 minutes. For more
> info about the Mosler engine, see my auction. This segment will help most anyone
> thinking about installing a VW engine in a Kitfox.
>
> I started working in television in 1973. My website is listed on the auction.
>
> My first flight and wild ride in my Avid (with two cameras rolling) runs about
8
> minutes.
>
> Ebay item number 4549090719
>
> Sterling Brooks
> Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch.
> 5TA6, San Antonio Sectional
>
>
>
>
>
>
Enough of this, please. We had a very nice video of early Kitfox learning/training/flying,
and the author offered it for free, and many send in donations.
-------------- Original message --------------
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Sterling" <STERLING@PGRB.COM>
For your viewing pleasure, I've submitted a DVD on Ebay showing my first flight
in an airplane I built back in 1992ish. The DVD shows my first flight in my Avid
Sportster I named, Felix The Kit. The video was shot totally from a cockpit
perspective with superwide angle lenses using a couple of tiny microcams.
For anyone contemplating installing a VW based engine in an Kitfox or other
homebuilt, I've added to my DVD the Mosler 82X Installation video that I
produced for my client Mosler Motors, formerly based in North Carolina, and no
longer in business. The installation video highlights the numerous basic steps
of installing their engine in an Avid. It runs a tad over
33 minutes. For more
info about the Mosler engine, see my auction. This segment will help most anyone
thinking about installing a VW engine in a Kitfox.
I started working in television in 1973. My website is listed on the auction.
My first flight and wild ride in my Avid (with two cameras rolling) runs about
8
minutes.
Ebay item number 4549090719
Sterling Brooks
Knot-2-Shabby Airport Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch.
5TA6, San Antonio Sectional
//www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust fumes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
I would think if there wasn't already a problem possibly with the
exhaust that even without the excessive
pressure ratio with a radial front end I still shouldnt be getting leakage?
Maybe it' s time to replace the exhaust setup?
AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
>
>In a message dated 5/10/2005 5:12:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>jareds@verizon.net writes:
>
>
>But again I ask the list. What are we doing wrong that we can't cure
>the inherant problem of the fumes excaping in the first place?
>
>
>Jared,
> At this point, I'm not sure this is an inherent problem. It has been
>discussed every now and then but not enough to make it a Kitfox wide problem.
>Like I said, I've had a couple different modifications to the cowl and
>radiator but I've never had any exhaust fumes in the cockpit, that I could detect
>anyway
>
>
>Don Smythe
>Classic IV w/ 582
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mosler engine & Avid first flight video on Ebay, 4549090719 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Sterling" <sterling@pgrb.com>
I canceled my Mosler/Avid DVD auction as motivated by SKYFLYTE@COMCAST.NET
post this date. I appologize if I burdened or overwhelmed the Kitfox group.
I've been in television for 30 years and I do this for a living.
To burn a DVD, ink and stamp a label, buy a plastic box to put it in and
then drive 20 miles to a post office and mail it--all for a paultry $10, I
think that is fairly reasonable. Kudos to the person who has donated his
videos in the past.
www.sterlingbrooks.tv
----- Original Message -----
From: <skyflyte@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Mosler engine & Avid first flight video on Ebay,
4549090719
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: skyflyte@comcast.net
>
> Enough of this, please. We had a very nice video of early Kitfox
learning/training/flying, and the author offered it for free, and many send
in donations.
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Sterling"
> >
> > For your viewing pleasure, I've submitted a DVD on Ebay showing my first
flight
> > in an airplane I built back in 1992ish. The DVD shows my first flight in
my Avid
> > Sportster I named, Felix The Kit. The video was shot totally from a
cockpit
> > perspective with superwide angle lenses using a couple of tiny
microcams.
> >
> > For anyone contemplating installing a VW based engine in an Kitfox or
other
> > homebuilt, I've added to my DVD the Mosler 82X Installation video that I
> > produced for my client Mosler Motors, formerly based in North Carolina,
and no
> > longer in business. The installation video highlights the numerous basic
steps
> > of installing their engine in an Avid. It runs a tad over 33 minutes.
For more
> > info about the Mosler engine, see my auction. This segment will help
most anyone
> > thinking about installing a VW engine in a Kitfox.
> >
> > I started working in television in 1973. My website is listed on the
auction.
> >
> > My first flight and wild ride in my Avid (with two cameras rolling) runs
about 8
> > minutes.
> >
> > Ebay item number 4549090719
> >
> > Sterling Brooks
> > Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch.
> > 5TA6, San Antonio Sectional
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Enough of this, please. We had a very nice video of early Kitfox
learning/training/flying, and the author offered it for free, and many send
in donations.
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
> -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Sterling" <STERLING@PGRB.COM>
>
> For your viewing pleasure, I've submitted a DVD on Ebay showing my first
flight
> in an airplane I built back in 1992ish. The DVD shows my first flight in
my Avid
> Sportster I named, Felix The Kit. The video was shot totally from a
cockpit
> perspective with superwide angle lenses using a couple of tiny microcams.
>
> For anyone contemplating installing a VW based engine in an Kitfox or
other
> homebuilt, I've added to my DVD the Mosler 82X Installation video that I
> produced for my client Mosler Motors, formerly based in North Carolina,
and no
> longer in business. The installation video highlights the numerous basic
steps
> of installing their engine in an Avid. It runs a tad over
> 33 minutes. For more
> info about the Mosler engine, see my auction. This segment will help most
anyone
> thinking about installing a VW engine in a Kitfox.
>
> I started working in television in 1973. My website is listed on the
auction.
>
> My first flight and wild ride in my Avid (with two cameras rolling) runs
about 8
> minutes.
>
> Ebay item number 4549090719
>
> Sterling Brooks
> Knot-2-Shabby Airport Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch.
> 5TA6, San Antonio Sectional
>
>
> //www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Survival Gear |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Thanks Jim...this is great stuff and you've given me plenty to think
about. I just hope I never need any of this...but you know what...I
guess that's part of being a prepared pilot. Your comments about water,
food and staying dry are key to survival. I want to be ready for the
worst case scenario.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Carriere
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Aircraft Survival Gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Carriere <jimcarriere@yahoo.com>
________________________________ Message 40
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:11:56 PM PST US
> From: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Survival Gear
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
> <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
>
>
> 1. 8 ea. treble fish hooks. (great for snaring rabbits)
> 2. 200 yds. of 30 lb test monofilament line.
> 3. 24" ringed cable saw.
> 4. Small hand ax
> 5. Collapsible shovel/pick 4X8" 30 oz.
> 6. 30 kitchen matches sealed in plastic cigar tubes w/strikers X2
> 7. Small personal first aid kit. First aid instruction booklet.
> 8. Large first aid kit stays in luggage compartment
> 9. Magnesium rod fire starter
> 10. 48 hours of Light sticks 12 hrs X 4 ea.
> 11. 3 quarts water.
> 12. Garrity 200 hour LED flashlight w/colored filters/3 tripple-A
> cells
> 13. 1000 hours of light/spare triple-A cells
> 14. One Kershaw 1650ST Stainless folding knife.
> 15. One roll Charmin quilted.
> 16. Cheap Digital camera (to leave a record)
> 17. Signaling Mirror.
> 18. Spare double-A batteries for the GPS if I can get it out of
> the
> plane.
> 19. 7 lbs worth of the most common tools for working on the plane.
> 20. Spare underclothes, warm jacket, Sleeping Bag and socks.
You covered the most important elements- first aid, water,
warmth/shelter, and signalling. Most important is a desire to live,
but obviously you can't pack that in your kit.
Some of your focus seems on surviving in the wild, but make sure you
have a way to get water after your three quarts (about one day) are
used up. You can dig through snow and ice with the axe, shovel, and
knife, but are your water containers suitable for scooping up water
from a shallow stream? No sense getting cold, wet, and muddy every
time you are thirsty. Also, are will you need to purify it?
If you've never caught and cooked a wild animal or been shown how
to, don't rely too much on feeding yourself this way. I'd recommend
you pack a few power bars to eat instead. Besides, if you have
enough clean drinking water, you can last several days without
eating anything. Consider your expected waiting time to be rescued
in different seasons in your area.
A few specific comments on your equipment. The camera and toilet
paper are somewhat luxury items, but I guess they're not excessively
heavy. The hand tools, line, and firestarting tools are good
choices. Other than the mirror (and hopefully the aircraft radio),
what about flares for signalling? For your shelter, do you have a
way of insulating yourself from the ground (like a foam pad) and
rain? Don't underestimate that in the cold weather. You could use
the wreckage of your airplane, I'm just asking if you already have a
solution in mind. Last, I wouldn't put too much trust in the
temperature rating of your sleeping bag if you were in perfect
health (never mind injured, tired, and hungry).
I've been through survival training (in the winter nonetheless), so
this is what I remember off the top of my head. Hope it helps.
Jim in NW FL, Series 7 in progress
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust fumes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I agree. You don't need an exhaust leak to have
cockpit fumes. Gases from the engine breather and the
smell of all those hot engine parts is enough.
I found that if you pay close attention to the cowl
seal, you can keep the air clean in the cockpit. Mine
smelled at first and it cleaned up quite nicely just
closing a few small gaps.
Kurt S. S-5
--- AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 5/10/2005 5:12:12 PM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> jareds@verizon.net writes:
>
>
> But again I ask the list. What are we doing wrong
> that we can't cure
> the inherant problem of the fumes excaping in the
> first place?
>
>
> Jared,
> At this point, I'm not sure this is an inherent
> problem. It has been
> discussed every now and then but not enough to make
> it a Kitfox wide problem.
> Like I said, I've had a couple different
> modifications to the cowl and
> radiator but I've never had any exhaust fumes in
> the cockpit, that I could detect
> anyway
>
>
> Don Smythe
> Classic IV w/ 582
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