Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Sat 05/14/05


Total Messages Posted: 18



Today's Message Index:
----------------------
 
     1. 03:50 AM - Re: 2 cycle oil (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
     2. 03:59 AM - Re: Skystar Visit (Fox5flyer)
     3. 04:11 AM - Re: Side slips  (Fox5flyer)
     4. 04:42 AM - Re Lowrance custermer support (Cliff Olson)
     5. 05:36 AM - Re: Side slips WAS: Survival Gear (Dee Young)
     6. 05:55 AM - Venting and spilling (hausding, sid)
     7. 06:21 AM - Re: Side slips (Michel Verheughe)
     8. 07:04 AM - Re: Adhesive (Lynn Matteson)
     9. 08:24 AM - Re: Fuel cap gaskets Was: Side slips WAS: Survival Gear (Lowell Fitt)
    10. 11:48 AM - Radio license to Canada (Clint Bazzill)
    11. 11:49 AM - Re: Tach (customtrans@qwest.net)
    12. 11:51 AM - Re: Venting and spilling (customtrans@qwest.net)
    13. 11:54 AM - Re: Side slips WAS: Survival Gear (Guy Buchanan)
    14. 01:03 PM - Re: Radio license to Canada (Les Chambers)
    15. 01:21 PM - Re: Side slips WAS: Survival Gear (Dee Young)
    16. 04:15 PM - Re: Skystar Visit (Brett Walmsley)
    17. 08:35 PM - Flight Computer (Chris Erickson)
    18. 10:44 PM - Re: Survival Gear (Richard Hutson)
 
 
 


Message 1


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 03:50:46 AM PST US
    From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 2 cycle oil
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 5/13/2005 9:45:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, GONER752@aol.com writes: Don, Thanks for the quick response. Just out of curiosity, what did I miss about the difference in the oils? Thanks again. Greg G. Oh, I just meant the difference between "water cooled" and "air cooled". Was just kidding. Do Not Archive Don Smythe Classic IV w/ 582


    Message 2


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 03:59:22 AM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Re: Skystar Visit
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> Thanks for the report Lowell. Good news. Deke > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> > > Just back today from a visit to Caldwell and Skystar. Went to visit a > friend that is interested in relocating to South Western Idaho. > > I am really optimistic about what Frank and Crystal have done there. Frank snip...


    Message 3


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 04:11:57 AM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Re: Side slips
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> When the kitfox is slipped the fuel is pushed from one wing tank to the other. Without check valves in the wing fuel lines I don't see how you can avoid that. Generally this spillage only happens when the tanks are near full. One way to counter it is to slip half way in one direction then swap to the other direction. So long as you don't surprise him/her the passenger will be duly impressed. Deke > Lowell Fitt wrote: > > We did a long sideslip to get down from the direction we were > > coming in from. Not a problem with a Kitfox. > > Indeed, side slips are a real pleasure with a Kitfox, Lowell. I do it with full > rudder deflection, use the flaperons to keep the correct heading, and nose up > or down to keep 70 MPH, my Va speed. But, after landing, I can see stains of > fuel on the wings, from the fuel caps. I wish I could prevent that. Any idea? > > Cheers, > Michel > > do not archive > >


    Message 4


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 04:42:13 AM PST US
    From: "Cliff Olson" <colsonj@provide.net>
    Subject: Re Lowrance custermer support
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cliff Olson" <colsonj@provide.net> Lowrance will not support thier model 300 GPS which was still available new in 2002.There is no way to update the Jepp Database,and they offer no appolgies.However they do offer about $100.00 bucks or so if you send it back to them as a trade in on a new unit.If anyone knows a way to update the 300 database there are thousands of us out here that need it.I do like the Lowrance GPS I just don't like how they have abandoned thier customers. Since this experiance I have researched the handheld GPS companies and I have desided that my next GPS will be a Garmin.Don't archive. Cliff


    Message 5


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 05:36:10 AM PST US
    From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Side slips WAS: Survival Gear
    Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 14 May 2005 06:33:30 -0600 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> Michel, I have had good success with a simple fix for this. The first thing I found was the vents on the fuel caps were ported very differently. When you blew air through them from your mouth you could hardly get air thru one and the other was wide open. I drilled the obstruction out so they freely allowed the air thru. I purchased some nipples from the auto parts store that were built for plugging vacuum systems on carbs. I drilled a 1/16" dia. hole in each and pushed them on the tank vents. I also installed a good check valve vent on the header tank. This has stopped the fuel from running out on the wings when slipping and flying slightly uncoordinated. At least it has worked well for me. Have a nice day. Dee Young N345DY Model II do not archive I can see stains of fuel on the wings, from the fuel caps. I wish I could prevent that. Any idea? Cheers, Michel do not archive


    Message 6


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 05:55:03 AM PST US
    From: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net>
    Subject: Venting and spilling
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net> Dee, You have two separate feeds into your header tank? And two check valves, one on each tank line? And each check valve is vented? Hmmmm, trying to picture this............ More info for this neophyte fuel system installer. Any filters anywhere on your system? Looks like you are using the 582, yes, no? Sid --------------------------- Michel, I have had good success with a simple fix for this. The first thing I found was the vents on the fuel caps were ported very differently. When you blew air through them from your mouth you could hardly get air thru one and the other was wide open. I drilled the obstruction out so they freely allowed the air thru. I purchased some nipples from the auto parts store that were built for plugging vacuum systems on carbs. I drilled a 1/16" dia. hole in each and pushed them on the tank vents. I also installed a good check valve vent on the header tank. This has stopped the fuel from running out on the wings when slipping and flying slightly uncoordinated. At least it has worked well for me. Have a nice day. Dee Young N345DY Model II do not archive I can see stains of fuel on the wings, from the fuel caps. I wish I could prevent that. Any idea? Cheers, Michel do not archive --


    Message 7


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 06:21:16 AM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: Side slips
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Fox5flyer wrote: > So long as you don't surprise him/her the passenger > will be duly impressed. When I have a non-pilot passenger, I try to fly like an airliner, Deke. No need to scare people. But since you talk about check valves, has anyone tried that? Cheers, Michel


    Message 8


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 07:04:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Adhesive
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> My 5-pound "kit" of Hysol 9460 says: "use by 11/30/06 when stored @ 77 degrees" Lynn > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jim & Elaine Zimmerman" > <jezim@pro-ns.net> > > I have a 10 year old kit. I don't want to use the old Scotch-Weld 2216 > Epoxy > Adhesive. When I went to buy new 2216 I was told it is no longer made. > What > is supplied with the new kits? Thanks Jim > >


    Message 9


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 08:24:31 AM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel cap gaskets Was: Side slips WAS: Survival Gear
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> Michel, Are you leaking fuel from the caps or from the "pitot" breathers? If it is from the caps, check to see that the vent holes in the caps are sealed and Mercedes has a fuel cap gasket that will solve the leaking gasket problem. I lost all my e-mail files with a serious crash, but I am sure someone on the list will come up with a part number. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no> Subject: Kitfox-List: Side slips WAS: Survival Gear > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> > > Lowell Fitt wrote: >> We did a long sideslip to get down from the direction we were >> coming in from. Not a problem with a Kitfox. > > Indeed, side slips are a real pleasure with a Kitfox, Lowell. I do it with > full > rudder deflection, use the flaperons to keep the correct heading, and nose > up > or down to keep 70 MPH, my Va speed. But, after landing, I can see stains > of > fuel on the wings, from the fuel caps. I wish I could prevent that. Any > idea? > > Cheers, > Michel > > do not archive > > >


    Message 10


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 11:48:11 AM PST US
    From: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Radio license to Canada
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com> Do you need radio station license to travel from USA to Canada? Also operatiors license. Clint


    Message 11


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 11:49:22 AM PST US
    From: customtrans@qwest.net
    Subject: Tach
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net Mine takes and pegs out when I go above 6000. I figure I shouldn't be up that high so it doesn't bother me. steve a -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan Daniels Subject: Kitfox-List: Tach --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com> My plane has a 912S with a Rotax tach. The tach worked normal on the ground and for the first few minutes of flight. The it would start jumping up - just kind of flick up a few hundred RPM - but not in any pattern or associated with anything I could find. The longer I few the worse it got until it just pegged in the red. I have a fixed pitch prop and all indications were that the engine was fine and the was just the tach. I checked all the wiring and assumed I had a bad tach. I called Lookwood and talked to the person in the know and he said in something like 95% of the time it is that the sensor on the engine is too far away from the lobe that triggers it. There are 5 pickups, 2 on the right side and 3 on the left side on the back of the engine. They are the little black things at about 2 & 4 and 8 & 10 o'clock or close the that. The left side has one more a little higher up that is not connected to the wire loom, but has its own wire. That pickup drives the tach. It should be something like 18 thousands of an inch from the lobe. He said there is no adjustment so you just have to bend it in a little. Be careful because if you bend it in too much the lobe will wipe it right off. Also be aware that there are two sets of lobes on the flywheel. I used the aft lobe, but I think it picks up on the front one. I used one layer of business card as go and two layers as no go. I only moved mine about 10 thousands or a little more. Then you want to carefully turn the prop by hand and make sure you did not go too far. When you bent the pickup closer do not push on the sensor itself, but rather the mounting bracket. Use a light and a mirror and make sure you have clearance to both lobes. This solved my problem. He said it is normal for the problem to be worse at higher RPM and also when it gets hot. I hope this helps someone. Alan


    Message 12


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 11:51:38 AM PST US
    From: customtrans@qwest.net
    Subject: Venting and spilling
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net Some may not like what I'm going to say, but take a fine file and flat file the opening for the tank. Not only will you get ride of the high spots and make a better seal, but the cap will go on much easier as well. steve a -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of hausding, sid Subject: Kitfox-List: Venting and spilling --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net> Dee, You have two separate feeds into your header tank? And two check valves, one on each tank line? And each check valve is vented? Hmmmm, trying to picture this............ More info for this neophyte fuel system installer. Any filters anywhere on your system? Looks like you are using the 582, yes, no? Sid --------------------------- Michel, I have had good success with a simple fix for this. The first thing I found was the vents on the fuel caps were ported very differently. When you blew air through them from your mouth you could hardly get air thru one and the other was wide open. I drilled the obstruction out so they freely allowed the air thru. I purchased some nipples from the auto parts store that were built for plugging vacuum systems on carbs. I drilled a 1/16" dia. hole in each and pushed them on the tank vents. I also installed a good check valve vent on the header tank. This has stopped the fuel from running out on the wings when slipping and flying slightly uncoordinated. At least it has worked well for me. Have a nice day. Dee Young N345DY Model II do not archive I can see stains of fuel on the wings, from the fuel caps. I wish I could prevent that. Any idea? Cheers, Michel do not archive --


    Message 13


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 11:54:06 AM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: Side slips WAS: Survival Gear
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> At 05:33 AM 5/14/2005, you wrote: ... > I also installed a good check valve vent on the header tank. Dee, Would you describe what this is? I think I know but want to get it right. Guy Buchanan K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar. Do not archive


    Message 14


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 01:03:59 PM PST US
    From: "Les Chambers" <l_chambers@ckt.net>
    Subject: Re: Radio license to Canada
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Les Chambers" <l_chambers@ckt.net> Clint, Yes, both are required to be legal and the station license (for 5?years) costs about $100! I'm not aware anyone ever inquires if you have them or not. Les Chambers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Radio license to Canada > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" > <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com> > > Do you need radio station license to travel from USA to Canada? Also > operatiors license. Clint > > >


    Message 15


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 01:21:08 PM PST US
    From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Side slips WAS: Survival Gear
    Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 14 May 2005 14:20:44 -0600 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> Guy it's a vacuum check valve such as sold in auto parts houses and used on carburetors. It allows the air into the header tank but will not allow fuel to come out. It is ported thru the wind screen on pilots side at the highest point. Its about the size of a nickel with a nipple on each side for a vacuum line to push on. Dee Young N345DY Model II Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Guy Buchanan<mailto:bnn@nethere.com> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 12:53 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Side slips WAS: Survival Gear --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com<mailto:bnn@nethere.com>> At 05:33 AM 5/14/2005, you wrote: ... > I also installed a good check valve vent on the header tank. Dee, Would you describe what this is? I think I know but want to get it right. Guy Buchanan K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar. Do not archive


    Message 16


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 04:15:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Skystar Visit
    From: "Brett Walmsley" <kitfox4@numail.org>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <kitfox4@numail.org> I agree with you Lowell. I spoke with Frank at Sun-N-Fun and was very impressed with his commitment to the company and his customer base. (somewhat of a rarity in todays corporate world). Crystal also showed the same enthusiasm. They were both there all day every day that I was there. > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> > > Just back today from a visit to Caldwell and Skystar. Went to visit a > friend that is interested in relocating to South Western Idaho. > > I am really optimistic about what Frank and Crystal have done there. > Frank > seems to be rather passionate about the airplanes and most importantly the > builder / owners. More than once he talked about the importance of the >


    Message 17


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 08:35:34 PM PST US
    From: "Chris Erickson" <umasha@msn.com>
    Subject: Flight Computer
    Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 14 May 2005 23:34:33 -0400 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Chris Erickson" <umasha@msn.com> Does anyone have a ASA CX-2 Pathfinder Flight Computer that they are willing to part with? Please contact me off list. Thanks.


    Message 18


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 10:44:24 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Survival Gear
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com> The only firearm you cannot carrier into Canada, is a pistol. ----- Original Message ----- From> It was required in Alaska to carry a firearm but the shitty Canadian > goverment will impound your aircraft and you and the firearm if brought > into




    Other Matronics Email List Services

  • Post A New Message
  •   kitfox-list@matronics.com
  • UN/SUBSCRIBE
  •   http://www.matronics.com/subscription
  • List FAQ
  •   http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm
  • Full Archive Search Engine
  •   http://www.matronics.com/search
  • 7-Day List Browse
  •   http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list
  • Browse Kitfox-List Digests
  •   http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list
  • Browse Other Lists
  •   http://www.matronics.com/browse
  • Live Online Chat!
  •   http://www.matronics.com/chat
  • Archive Downloading
  •   http://www.matronics.com/archives
  • Photo Share
  •   http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
  • Other Email Lists
  •   http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
  • Contributions
  •   http://www.matronics.com/contributions

    These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.

    -- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --