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1. 05:17 AM - Re: Re Lowrance custermer support (Clifford Begnaud)
2. 08:41 AM - Re: Skystar Visit (Harry Tucker)
3. 09:20 AM - Re: Side slips WAS: Survival Gear (wwillyard@aol.com)
4. 10:29 AM - Re: Lowrance Customer Support (Clem Nichols)
5. 10:44 AM - Re: Re Lowrance custermer support (Richard Hutson)
6. 11:48 AM - Re: Fuel cap gaskets (Michel Verheughe)
7. 05:12 PM - Jabirued Kitfoxes (Bruce Harrington)
8. 05:55 PM - Re: Fuel cap gaskets (Clem Nichols)
9. 05:57 PM - Fuel tank gaskets (Clem Nichols)
10. 07:40 PM - Re: Fuel cap gaskets (Ben Baltrusaitis)
11. 08:13 PM - Re: Fuel cap gaskets (Lowell Fitt)
12. 10:08 PM - Re: Fuel tank gaskets (Alberto Barba)
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| Subject: | Re: Re Lowrance custermer support |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
I think Lowrance was bought by Garmin a year or two ago...
cliff
>
> Lowrance will not support thier model 300 GPS which was still available
> new in 2002.There is no way to update the Jepp Database,and they offer no
> appolgies.However they do offer about $100.00 bucks or so if you send it
> back to them as a trade in on a new unit.If anyone knows a way to update
> the 300 database there are thousands of us out here that need it.I do like
> the Lowrance GPS I just don't like how they have abandoned thier
> customers. Since this experiance I have researched the handheld GPS
> companies and I have desided that my next GPS will be a Garmin.Don't
> archive. Cliff
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harry Tucker" <harry@jts.co.uk>
Hi
We are selling kitfox kits down here in South Africa and we have had
"quite a few problems" with getting orders delivered etc etc etc over
the last year.
I try to speak to Frank on a weekly basis to ensure that our moneys and
orders are safe.
He has been very busy recently but he did get time to talk to me last
week and advised that he had now completed the investment with some
"group of kitfox owners" but he would not tell me anymore.
I hope things get better soon as we have found it almost impossible to
run a business down here in SA where we are meant to be representing
Skystar and to do this very little communication from Skystar sometimes
we go without a return of email and phone calls for 6 weeks.
I would love to find out who the investors are so that I could find out
what their intentions are.
Please advise and or keep me in the loop
Harry Tucker
PO Box 2830, White River 1240 South Africa
Tel ++ 27 13 751 5018 Fax:++ 27 11 507 5339
Email: harry@htucker.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don
Pearsall
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Skystar Visit
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
<donpearsall@comcast.net>
Good report, Lowell, thanks for sharing your visit with us.
A while back, Frank reported to the list that he had some investors
interested in helping the company financially. Did you discuss that with
Frank? What is the status of their expansion plans? Right now they are
still
in skeleton mode, which makes it tough to get new business and grow.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Subject: Kitfox-List: Skystar Visit
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Just back today from a visit to Caldwell and Skystar. Went to visit a
friend that is interested in relocating to South Western Idaho.
I am really optimistic about what Frank and Crystal have done there.
Frank
seems to be rather passionate about the airplanes and most importantly
the
builder / owners. More than once he talked about the importance of the
customer base to Skystar's future success. They have definitely gone
the
extra mile to rebuild the company with customer service a top priority.
Most of our irritations have been addressed and things will soon be in
place
to rectify the complaints some have registered in the past.
I believe that those of us flying and more importantly those of us that
are
building or thinking of building and even those who have bought or are
contemplating buying an existing Kitfox and need a strong company to
service
our needs, have a strong advocate in the company and it helps that he's
the
boss.
Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Side slips WAS: Survival Gear |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: wwillyard@aol.com
>Indeed, side slips are a real pleasure with a Kitfox, after landing, I can see
stains >of fuel on the wings, from the fuel caps. I wish I could prevent that.
Any idea?
Michel, I solved this problem by adding check valves to the fuel cap vents. I purchased
new unvented fuel caps from a local auto parts suppler (NAPA) and modified
a couple of Andair check valves (Aircraft Spruce) to free flow in either
direction until fuel is present. Here are links to photos of my mods and to the
Andair site.
Contact me for additional details if you have an interests in this modification.
http://eaa145.org/page8.html
http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html
Bill W.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Lowrance Customer Support |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
I read somewhere that the Lowrance units did not include private airstrips. This
could obviously be a problem if you were in trouble, and had to go to the "Nearest
Field". You could be directed to a public field 50 miles away when there
was a private field within 4 or 5 miles. Supposedly Lowrance doesn't want
to intrude on anyone's privacy, although if the field is listed with the FAA
and shows up on sectionals this not seem to be a significant intrusion. Can anyone
on the list tell me if this information is correct? Thanks for your response.
Clem Nichols
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| Subject: | Re: Re Lowrance custermer support |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
Garmin bought Apollo/ UPS
DO NOT ARCHIVE
> I think Lowrance was bought by Garmin a year or two ago...
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel cap gaskets |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Thank you for your answers, Dee, Sid, Lowell, Steve and Bill
Lowell Fitt wrote:
> Are you leaking fuel from the caps or from the "pitot" breathers?
This is the important question, Lowell. I am not sure but looking at the
stains, it seems to me that they start too close to the cap to be spilled from
the breathers. Changing my gaskets that look to be slightly cracked here and
there, should be my first attemp. I'll ask in a Mercedes store. If not, I am
sure I can cut such gaskets out of rubber. I think the softer rubber the best,
right?
Steve, filing flat the opening would certainly help. But I am not sure I'd dare
file metal even with a cloth over the hole. It sounds risky.
Bill and Dee, yes, I'll try a check valve if the problem persists after
changing the gaskets. Thanks for the link, Bill.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Jabirued Kitfoxes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
EAA Sport Pilot Magazine is running a 3 article series written by a guy who
put a Jab 2200 in his IV.
Also apparently put a Jab 3300 in a Series 7. First article was a good
read.
Authors name is Dave Jalanti. Lives in Hudson River Valley, New York.
Cheers,
bh
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel cap gaskets |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Michel:
While at the hangar today I checked the plastic bag my Mercedes fuel tank
cap seals came in, and the part # shown was
140 471 00 79. I purchased a couple of these from an after-market supplier,
so I can't be certain if these are Mercedes part numbers or the suppliers
(and I can't remember who I bought them from....just found them through
Google). Other numbers listed on the bag were 209000 04/03. I hope this
helps.
Clem Nichols
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel cap gaskets
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Thank you for your answers, Dee, Sid, Lowell, Steve and Bill
>
> Lowell Fitt wrote:
>> Are you leaking fuel from the caps or from the "pitot" breathers?
>
> This is the important question, Lowell. I am not sure but looking at the
> stains, it seems to me that they start too close to the cap to be spilled
> from
> the breathers. Changing my gaskets that look to be slightly cracked here
> and
> there, should be my first attemp. I'll ask in a Mercedes store. If not, I
> am
> sure I can cut such gaskets out of rubber. I think the softer rubber the
> best, right?
>
> Steve, filing flat the opening would certainly help. But I am not sure I'd
> dare
> file metal even with a cloth over the hole. It sounds risky.
>
>
> Bill and Dee, yes, I'll try a check valve if the problem persists after
> changing the gaskets. Thanks for the link, Bill.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel tank gaskets |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
P.S.
The tank caps fit very firmly now, and I can't immagine they are leaking, but I
still get fuel stains on my wing, and am convinced the leak is from the vent
rather than the cap itself.
Clem Nichols
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel cap gaskets |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net>
Here is an email I saved from a fuel cap discussion on Jan.
12th. I hope this is what you need.
Ben:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
I don't know about a better cap, but a couple of years back a list member
bought a bunch or Mercedes Benz gas caps that he made available to fellow
listers for a small fee. They work great.
Guys the Mercedes Fuel cap gasket is P/N 140-471-00-79 Also under
E2060-124896 It is listed as a hard seal 58x37.5x2.5. Costs about $2 I
could not seem to buy just the gasket in Australia. Would have had to get
the whole cap. However look on the net. Just put the part No in your chosen
search engine and it will come up in a few places in USA. I finished up
using 3mm fuel grade insertion rubber and made my own. I was getting
problems because I fill to the top but now I don't leak a drop.
Rex.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel cap gaskets |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Clem, thanks for the number post. I knew someone had the part number
somewhere. Mine is somewhere on the hard drive of my crashed computer. Now
I have it until this puppy crashes.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel cap gaskets
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
>
> Michel:
>
> While at the hangar today I checked the plastic bag my Mercedes fuel tank
> cap seals came in, and the part # shown was
> 140 471 00 79. I purchased a couple of these from an after-market
> supplier,
> so I can't be certain if these are Mercedes part numbers or the suppliers
> (and I can't remember who I bought them from....just found them through
> Google). Other numbers listed on the bag were 209000 04/03. I hope this
> helps.
>
> Clem Nichols
> Do Not Archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel cap gaskets
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>>
>> Thank you for your answers, Dee, Sid, Lowell, Steve and Bill
>>
>> Lowell Fitt wrote:
>>> Are you leaking fuel from the caps or from the "pitot" breathers?
>>
>> This is the important question, Lowell. I am not sure but looking at the
>> stains, it seems to me that they start too close to the cap to be spilled
>> from
>> the breathers. Changing my gaskets that look to be slightly cracked here
>> and
>> there, should be my first attemp. I'll ask in a Mercedes store. If not, I
>> am
>> sure I can cut such gaskets out of rubber. I think the softer rubber the
>> best, right?
>>
>> Steve, filing flat the opening would certainly help. But I am not sure
>> I'd
>> dare
>> file metal even with a cloth over the hole. It sounds risky.
>>
>>
>> Bill and Dee, yes, I'll try a check valve if the problem persists after
>> changing the gaskets. Thanks for the link, Bill.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Michel
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank gaskets |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Alberto Barba" <ambarba@megared.net.mx>
My tank caps were leaking ..I change the fuel tank gaskets and nothing
the caps are two parts, with ventilation and SS modify this sealing
the original vents, mine were bad sealed
Alberto Barba
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