Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Fri 05/27/05


Total Messages Posted: 28



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:29 AM - Tailwheel Steering springs (Peter Brookes)
     2. 02:19 AM - SV: Tailwheel Steering springs (Michel Verheughe)
     3. 02:21 AM - SV: Three Point vs. Wheel Landings (Michel Verheughe)
     4. 03:10 AM - Tailwheel Steering springs (Fox5flyer)
     5. 04:20 AM - Re: Prop tape (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
     6. 06:30 AM - Re: Tailwheel Steering springs (Ben Baltrusaitis)
     7. 06:34 AM - Re: Tailwheel Steering springs (Jose M. Toro)
     8. 08:02 AM - Re: Three Point vs. Wheel Landings (John Larsen)
     9. 08:16 AM - Re: Kitfox Wings (John Larsen)
    10. 08:35 AM - Re: Tailwheel Steering springs (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
    11. 08:49 AM - Re: Three Point vs. Wheel Landings (Bruce Harrington)
    12. 10:15 AM - Re: Tailwheel Steering springs (Alan Daniels)
    13. 11:24 AM - Who can work on your plane (Alan Daniels)
    14. 11:59 AM - Re: Tailwheel Steering springs (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
    15. 01:04 PM - Re: Tailwheel Steering springs (Marco Menezes)
    16. 03:16 PM - Re: Going off list to move (kurt schrader)
    17. 03:42 PM - Re: Going off list to move (Michel Verheughe)
    18. 05:50 PM - Bearing sealant (Greaves)
    19. 05:56 PM - Re: Engine TBOEngine TBO (Rick)
    20. 05:59 PM - Re: Prop tape (Rick)
    21. 06:01 PM - Re: Bearing sealant (Rick)
    22. 06:26 PM - Re: Bearing sealant (Wadetc@aol.com)
    23. 06:43 PM - 912 engine (John Furey)
    24. 07:00 PM - Re: 912 engine (Lowell Fitt)
    25. 07:24 PM - Re: Tailwheel Steering springs (Lynn Matteson)
    26. 08:45 PM - Re: Tailwheel Steering springs (Andrew Matthaey)
    27. 10:21 PM - Re: Prop tape (jimshumaker)
    28. 11:09 PM - Re: Bearing sealant (N81JG@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:29:33 AM PST US
    From: "Peter Brookes" <pdbrookes@blueyonder.co.uk>
    Subject: Tailwheel Steering springs
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Brookes" <pdbrookes@blueyonder.co.uk> Just a quick question to all you experienced guys out there! What is best for a model II? Normal springs or compression springs? I have had a few high speed excursions from the runway (luckily onto taxiways) and would like get the optimum control from my tailwheel. Previously the springs were slack, but I tightened so they were always under tension (little play), but I have heard say this not a good idea! Pete.


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    Time: 02:19:53 AM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Tailwheel Steering springs
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> > From: Peter Brookes [pdbrookes@blueyonder.co.uk] > What is best for a model II? Normal springs or compression springs? I have a model 3 with normal springs, Pete. They are very tighened. To fasten the second one (the fist is easy since the wheel is loose) I need to lock the wheel and press the rudder to fit the shackle. It works well for me and I feel I have a good tailwheel control. I don't know if it is the best, I only know I am pleased with it. Before, the springs were slightly loose and I didn't like the feeling of it. Maybe tight springs will cause a free-castoring earlier than loose ones and some may not like that but my understanding is that, if you loose control in a ground loop, there is little you can do with the tailwheel, anyway. Cheers, Michel


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    Time: 02:21:04 AM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Three Point vs. Wheel Landings
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> > From: jimshumaker [jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net] > I did mean forward stick. That will pin the wheels to the ground. Ok, I get it now, Jim. I'll try to never fly in winds gusting over 30 MPH, anyway! :-) Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 03:10:17 AM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Tailwheel Steering springs
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> Good questions, but why is tension on the springs not a good idea? You'll find there are as many opinions on this topic as 3pt vs wheel landings so you'll have to separate the wheat from the chaff and decide for yourself which is best for you. Makes no diff whether model I or VII. Loose Springs - sloppy tail wheel steering - easy breakout Tight Springs - tighter more predictable steering - more effort to break out Personally I like my springs with no slack so that when I push on the rudder peddle the tailwheel turns at the same rate. More predictable to me. As for compression vs tension type springs, it's my experience that it makes no difference. However, with tension springs, if you have your chains loose you have a greater chance of slinging a spring. Deke > What is best for a model II? Normal springs or compression springs? > > I have had a few high speed excursions from the runway (luckily onto > taxiways) and would like get the optimum control from my tailwheel. > Previously the springs were slack, but I tightened so they were always under > tension (little play), but I have heard say this not a good idea! > > Pete. > >


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    Time: 04:20:22 AM PST US
    From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Prop tape
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 5/27/2005 12:12:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net writes: finish. I tried some stuff that said it was for epoxy prop repair but it just peeled off in the weeds and rain. Jim Shumaker Jim, Warp has my prop now for repair and I was just on the phone with them yesterday and the subject of "finish" came up. They told me they used flat black lacquer as a finish paint coat. I didn't realize the Warp Drive prop was even painted until that conversation. I thought the black finish was mixed in with the carbon fiber process. Don Smythe Classic IV w/ 582


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    Time: 06:30:03 AM PST US
    From: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel Steering springs
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net> Pete, I have very little time in my Kitfox 5 compared to everyone else on this list, however, I have had one experience that relates to your question. When flying the plane home after purchase, we spent 5.5 hours in turbulence. When we landed one spring was unhooked and luckily the other chain broke. If not for the flying ability of my ferry pilot friend, we would have been in the bushes. The tailwheel was set up with normal springs and some slack. We think the bouncing unhooked one spring and we lucked out that the other chain broke. I switched to compression springs because: 1. The loops are closed and can't unhook. 2. When aggressively using the rudder pedals on the ground, the spring will not be subject to excessive stretching. Once compressed, it acts like a complete chain. 3. I think they look better. For now I just have light tension on the springs. I am still playing with that. Ben (5 with a Soob) > What is best for a model II? Normal springs or compression springs? > > I have had a few high speed excursions from the runway (luckily onto > taxiways) and would like get the optimum control from my tailwheel. > Previously the springs were slack, but I tightened so they were always under > tension (little play), but I have heard say this not a good idea! > > Pete. > >


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    Time: 06:34:28 AM PST US
    From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel Steering springs
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> Pete: I use compression springs with the Maule tailwheel, and works excellent. Note that, if you use the original springs with a Maule tailwhel, the left and right springs are different. Jose --- Peter Brookes <pdbrookes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Brookes" > <pdbrookes@blueyonder.co.uk> > > Just a quick question to all you experienced guys > out there! > > What is best for a model II? Normal springs or > compression springs? > > I have had a few high speed excursions from the > runway (luckily onto > taxiways) and would like get the optimum control > from my tailwheel. > Previously the springs were slack, but I tightened > so they were always under > tension (little play), but I have heard say this not > a good idea! > > Pete. > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > > Jose M. Toro, P.E. Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200 "A slow flight in the Caribbean..."


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    Time: 08:02:32 AM PST US
    From: John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Three Point vs. Wheel Landings
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com> Hi; I will add one of my experiences. I fly an Airdale which handles about the same as KF 5-7. I had to land in a gusting 90 degree 15 to 20 kt. crosswind as I was almost out of gas. After almost loosing the plane on three attempts to full stall land, I finally had to add power and wheel land the plane to nail it on the airstrip. There was plenty of runway length if you could just hit it. jimshumaker wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net> > >Brian > >Thank you for finally helping us with the technical subtleties. I always >enjoy you clear and understandable explinations. > >Jim Shumaker > > > > >>Crosswind Landing: When landing three point, as the aircraft slows down, >>directional control authority from the flight controls (roll and yaw) goes >>down as the tailwheel steering authority goes up. When crosswinds are >>light, there is an overlap of control authority and it is easy to keep the >>plane going straight. As the crosswind increases, the overlap is reduced >>to the point where you just maintain directional control. Eventually, >>there is a gap of control, or a point where you no longer have >>sufficient rudder authority (due to slow speed) and have yet to gain >>sufficient steering authority (not enough weight on the tailwheel.) The >>point where this gap begins to occur is a good place to set a crosswind >>limit for the aircraft (in the U-2 this occurs at about 18 knots, so our >>crosswind limit is 15.) >> >>Wheel landings are recommended for most taildragger aircraft because >>touchdown occurs at a higher speed, affording more control, and the >>transition from rudder control to tailwheel control is made very rapidly >>when the tailwheel is lowered. This makes wheel landings safer in >>crosswind conditions. >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 08:16:20 AM PST US
    From: John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox Wings
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com> I was working at the SS factory when a KF 4 painted up in Budweiser colors was being hauled to SnF, as a promo plane. The aerodynamics of the trailer used, allowed the rudder to beat back and forth between the wings, ruining the wings from the lift struts out toward the tips. The empenage was junked and frame sold as salvage to someone in Canada as I recall. I noticed that the wings were in good shape from the lift strut brackets back to the root ribs, so I talked to Phil Reed as I wanted to cut them off and use them to make a folding wing biplane. I drew up a design which would have had enough wing area to make it a great STOL plane. He gave the idea to Dan Denny who though it should be an aerobatic plane, so made Special Effects which was a Pitts wannabe. Probably would not have (flown) well with either design. as biplane sales have been a little soft since about 1930. Dee Young wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> > >The last I knew the bottom set of wings for this plane were in a hanger being used by Denny in Nampa, Idaho. I saw them about 4 years ago. > >Dee > >Do not archive > ----- Original Message ----- > From: skyflyte@comcast.net<mailto:skyflyte@comcast.net> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 1:42 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Wings > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: skyflyte@comcast.net<mailto:skyflyte@comcast.net> > > I have a picture of the Kitfox Biplane "Special Effects" which was shown at either Sun-n'-Fun or Oshkosh. I think it was built for Dan Denny to show off some of their new ideas, like a flip up turtle deck shown in the picture. There are no visible N numbers in the photo, so I have no way to find out where it is. Does anybody know? > Mike > > > The factory once tested a KitFox biplane. I know > > little about it, but understand that it flew OK. > > I have a picture of the Kitfox Biplane "Special Effects" which was shown at either Sun-n'-Fun or Oshkosh. I think it was built for Dan Denny to show off some of their new ideas, like a flip up turtle deck shown in the picture. There are no visible N numbers in the photo, so I have no way to find out where it is. Does anybody know? > Mike > > > The factory once tested a KitFox biplane. I know > little about it, but understand that it flew OK. > > > >


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    Time: 08:35:20 AM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel Steering springs
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net Loose Springs - sloppy tail wheel steering - easy breakout Tight Springs - tighter more predictable steering - more effort to break out Seems to me that "loose" increases the chance of breakout induced ground loop.... John Kerr -------------- Original message -------------- > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" > > Good questions, but why is tension on the springs not a good idea? > You'll find there are as many opinions on this topic as 3pt vs wheel > landings so you'll have to separate the wheat from the chaff and decide for > yourself which is best for you. Makes no diff whether model I or VII. > > Loose Springs > - sloppy tail wheel steering > - easy breakout > > Tight Springs > - tighter more predictable steering > - more effort to break out > > Personally I like my springs with no slack so that when I push on the rudder > peddle the tailwheel turns at the same rate. More predictable to me. As > for compression vs tension type springs, it's my experience that it makes no > difference. However, with tension springs, if you have your chains loose > you have a greater chance of slinging a spring. > Deke > > > What is best for a model II? Normal springs or compression springs? > > > > I have had a few high speed excursions from the runway (luckily onto > > taxiways) and would like get the optimum control from my tailwheel. > > Previously the springs were slack, but I tightened so they were always > under > > tension (little play), but I have heard say this not a good idea! > > > > Pete. > > > > > > > > > > Loose Springs - sloppy tail wheel steering - easy breakout Tight Springs - tighter more predictable steering - more effort to break out Seems to me that "loose" increases the chance of breakout induced ground loop.... John Kerr -------------- Original message -------------- -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <MORID@NORTHLAND.LIB.MI.US> Good questions, but why is tension on the springs not a good idea? You'll find there are as many opinions on this topic as 3pt vs wheel landings so you'll have to separate the wheat from the chaff and decide for yourself which is best for you. Makes no diff whether model I or VII. Loose Springs - sloppy tail wheel steering - easy breakout Tight Springs - tighter more predictable steering - more effort to break out Personally I like my springs with no slack so that when I push on the rudder peddle the tailwheel turns at the same rate. More predictable to me. As for compression vs tension type springs, it's my experience that it makes no difference. However, with tension springs, if you have your chains loose you have a greater chance of slinging a spring. Deke What is best for a model II? Normal springs or compression springs? I have had a few high speed excursions from the runway (luckily onto taxiways) and would like get the optimum control from my tailwheel. Previously the springs were slack, but I tightened so they were always under tension (little play), but I have heard say this not a good idea! Pete. arch Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,


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    Time: 08:49:01 AM PST US
    From: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
    Subject: Re: Three Point vs. Wheel Landings
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net> I agree with John Larsen! Landing my 582ed IV-1200, 575# empty weight, was much easier doing wheel landings in 20-25 gusting to 35. My three times were where the wind was close to right down the runway. Kept some power on, tail up above level, and taxied to a safer spot or had wing walkers! bh Ex-N194KF, 582ed, IV-1200, 800+ hrs ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Larsen" <jopatco@mindspring.com> > Hi; > I will add one of my experiences. I fly an Airdale which handles about > the same as KF 5-7. I had to land in a gusting 90 degree 15 to 20 kt. > crosswind as I was almost out of gas. After almost loosing the plane on > three attempts to full stall land, I finally had to add power and wheel > land the plane to nail it on the airstrip. There was plenty of runway > length if you could just hit it.


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    Time: 10:15:31 AM PST US
    From: Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel Steering springs
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com> Things to consider in tailwheel springs. How tight the chain is depends on how much rudder you want before the tailwheel steering kicks in. It is also a factor in how quick the response of the tailwheel is. Some people just get behind the tailwheel when the spring is tight, but a little slack in the chains gives the delay they need. I flew with a guy that did not even know he had sheered the pins in his tailwheel and it was not steering at all and he was having no problems at all. . I have found that rolling up on a little brake will take a lot of the hunting out of the tracking. I did take 6 degrees of camber out of my 5 with grove gear with shims and it helped a lot. This was because it was neutral toe in with the tail up, but over 1 degree toe in three point. If your plane does not track straight and easy you need to find out why and fix it. For those of you building and not yet flying a tailwheel plane, don't let all this discussion bother you. I have found that most people that have tailwheel experience get the hang of the Kitfox in 3 to 5 landings. After that they are just working on making them better, but they are not in question. My 21 year old son had never flown a tailwheel plane, but had about 200 hours in a Vixen. He had all of 15 minutes of duel before he was soloed in the 5 tailwheel and never had a problem. I will agree with the comment that not all CFI's are good in a Kitfox. Find someone that really knows the plane because it is a little different than most other planes due to the low mass and the way it decelerates in the flair, and in how the controls work in the flair. If you don't have anyone local and you are nervous get with John McBean. He is the pro. You might consider bringing him to your location for an inspection of your plane and duel instruction. The BS stops when the prop starts. It will cost you some, but my guess is that it will be the best money you spend. IMHO Alan Alan > >


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    Time: 11:24:16 AM PST US
    From: Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
    Subject: Who can work on your plane
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com> You do not need to be an A&P to work on any part of an experimental, regardless of who built it. You can do all the work you feel qualified to do yourself. You just need an A&P to sign off the annual, which really is not an annual if you don't hold the repairman's cert. This is very different than a certified plane. Look it up in the FAR's I think it is part 43 appendix D for the condition inspection. Many A&P AI's do not know the difference. I will look up the FAR's on who can work on your plane if anyone is interested. Alan Michael Gibbs wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net> > >Rick sez: > > > >>If the builder got his repairman cert. he can sign off the annual >>you do if he wants to. Otherwise you are in no different position >>than GA, except you have to find someone familiar and willing to do >>the work. >> >> > >One minor quibble: you are slightly better off than the rest of GA >because the mechanic signing-off an annual inspection on an >experimental category airplane does not need to have inspection >authorization (AI), just an airframe and power plant license (A&P). > >I'm sure the guys at the local FBO know nothing about Subaru engines, though. > >Mike G. >N728KF > > > >


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    Time: 11:59:26 AM PST US
    From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel Steering springs
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 5/27/2005 9:32:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, ben@gmpexpress.net writes: When flying the plane home after purchase, we spent 5.5 hours in turbulence. When we landed one spring was unhooked and luckily the other chain broke. If not for the flying Ben, Interesting, I had the same thing happen but didn't notice anything on landing. Once back at the hanger, I noticed one spring hanging. I had just left a slightly rough landing strip. I have the regular springs but did safety wire the hooks after that incident. Don Smythe Classic IV w/ 582


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    Time: 01:04:20 PM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel Steering springs
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com> Does anyone know of a CFI in Michigan with tailwheel Kitfox experience? Marco Menezes KF 2 582 N99KX Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan Daniels Things to consider in tailwheel springs. How tight the chain is depends on how much rudder you want before the tailwheel steering kicks in. It is also a factor in how quick the response of the tailwheel is. Some people just get behind the tailwheel when the spring is tight, but a little slack in the chains gives the delay they need. I flew with a guy that did not even know he had sheered the pins in his tailwheel and it was not steering at all and he was having no problems at all. . I have found that rolling up on a little brake will take a lot of the hunting out of the tracking. I did take 6 degrees of camber out of my 5 with grove gear with shims and it helped a lot. This was because it was neutral toe in with the tail up, but over 1 degree toe in three point. If your plane does not track straight and easy you need to find out why and fix it. For those of you building and not yet flying a tailwheel plane, don't let all this discussion bother you. I have found that most people that have tailwheel experience get the hang of the Kitfox in 3 to 5 landings. After that they are just working on making them better, but they are not in question. My 21 year old son had never flown a tailwheel plane, but had about 200 hours in a Vixen. He had all of 15 minutes of duel before he was soloed in the 5 tailwheel and never had a problem. I will agree with the comment that not all CFI's are good in a Kitfox. Find someone that really knows the plane because it is a little different than most other planes due to the low mass and the way it decelerates in the flair, and in how the controls work in the flair. If you don't have anyone local and you are nervous get with John McBean. He is the pro. You might consider bringing him to your location for an inspection of your plane and duel instruction. The BS stops when the prop starts. It will cost you some, but my guess is that it will be the best money you spend. IMHO Alan Alan > > --------------------------------- Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour


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    Time: 03:16:14 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Going off list to move
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> To the list, I have reached the point in my packing when I just have to shut down the computer and move it to florida. This will result in my being off list for around a month. 2 weeks of this will be spent in South America, so it will be an adventure too. I am going to shut down Saturday night about 24 hrs from now just in case anyone needs to contact me, or I finally learn to wheel land well. ;-) Take care all. I'll post when I get back in the routine of things. kurt S. __________________________________ http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail


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    Time: 03:42:54 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: Going off list to move
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> kurt schrader wrote: > I have reached the point in my packing when I just > have to shut down the computer and move it to florida. Good luck with your moving to Florida, Kurt. We look forward to see you back on the list. Meanwhile, don't do anything I wouldn't do ... which is not very much! :-) Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 05:50:54 PM PST US
    From: "Greaves" <tenorio41@comcast.net>
    Subject: Bearing sealant
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Greaves" <tenorio41@comcast.net> Where's a good place to get bearing sealant? Can't seem to find it anywhere? Is it essentially like regular locktite threadlocker? Thanks, Wade


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    Time: 05:56:48 PM PST US
    From: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
    Subject: Engine TBOEngine TBO
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net> Thanks Mike I didn't know that. In fact I have a friend that is an A&P that was and is willing but I thought he had to be an AI. Good info and thanks again. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Michael Gibbs Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Engine TBOEngine TBO --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net> Rick sez: >If the builder got his repairman cert. he can sign off the annual >you do if he wants to. Otherwise you are in no different position >than GA, except you have to find someone familiar and willing to do >the work. One minor quibble: you are slightly better off than the rest of GA because the mechanic signing-off an annual inspection on an experimental category airplane does not need to have inspection authorization (AI), just an airframe and power plant license (A&P). I'm sure the guys at the local FBO know nothing about Subaru engines, though. Mike G. N728KF


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    Time: 05:59:10 PM PST US
    From: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
    Subject: Prop tape
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net> More good info. You think Hysol would be a bit better. It seems a lot smoother to work with. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jimshumaker Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Prop tape --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net> Rick The tape was not dimpled. I filled the nicks with JB weld epoxy as recommended by Warp Drive. Just used a can of rustoleum spray paint for the finish. I tried some stuff that said it was for epoxy prop repair but it just peeled off in the weeds and rain. Jim Shumaker


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    Time: 06:01:30 PM PST US
    From: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
    Subject: Bearing sealant
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net> Check 3M. They have a web site and list of products. It sounds like it might be the same as stud locker but I am not sure. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Greaves Subject: Kitfox-List: Bearing sealant --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Greaves" <tenorio41@comcast.net> Where's a good place to get bearing sealant? Can't seem to find it anywhere? Is it essentially like regular locktite threadlocker? Thanks, Wade


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    Time: 06:26:04 PM PST US
    From: Wadetc@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Bearing sealant
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Wadetc@aol.com Try Lock Tite bearing lock


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    Time: 06:43:31 PM PST US
    From: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
    Subject: 912 engine
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com> I have 400 hrs on my Speedster since 1993. It has set 4 years while I built two RV's. I have replaced the hoses and things like that but since I have not kept up on any developments is there anything I need to do in the way of SB's, etc. Thanks John


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    Time: 07:00:51 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: 912 engine
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> John, You can do an engine serial number search on the Rotax Owners Association website. That should tellyou wnat you might be missing. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 engine > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com> > > I have 400 hrs on my Speedster since 1993. It has set 4 years while I > built > two RV's. I have replaced the hoses and things like that but since I have > not kept up on any developments is there anything I need to do in the way > of > SB's, etc. > > Thanks > John > > >


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    Time: 07:24:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel Steering springs
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> When you find one, give me a holler, Marco. Lynn On Friday, May 27, 2005, at 04:02 PM, Marco Menezes wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com> > > Does anyone know of a CFI in Michigan with tailwheel Kitfox experience? > > Marco Menezes > KF 2 582 N99KX


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    Time: 08:45:53 PM PST US
    From: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel Steering springs
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com> I am a new Kitfox 3 owner, and new to this group - Just bought my bird a month ago, and now have 3 hrs in her (semester finals and now summer classes really put a dent in flying time!). I am 20 yrs old, have my PPL and just over 100 hrs in 172's and Arrows - no Tailwheel time. I found an instructor who was somewhat familiar with Kitfox's, then went up and banged half a dozen landings out with him in less than an hour (okay, I did have a couple hours in flightsim landing the Cub!). I soloed her the next day - I can land her pretty well, but I'll definately be perfecting the art into the near-future, as there is plenty of room for improvement! Anyway, I'm glad to have found some friendly Kitfox faces to help me learn everything I can about mine! Andrew >From: Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com> >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tailwheel Steering springs >Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:14:23 -0600 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com> > > >Things to consider in tailwheel springs. How tight the chain is depends >on how much rudder you want before the tailwheel steering kicks in. It >is also a factor in how quick the response of the tailwheel is. Some >people just get behind the tailwheel when the spring is tight, but a >little slack in the chains gives the delay they need. I flew with a guy >that did not even know he had sheered the pins in his tailwheel and it >was not steering at all and he was having no problems at all. . I have >found that rolling up on a little brake will take a lot of the hunting >out of the tracking. I did take 6 degrees of camber out of my 5 with >grove gear with shims and it helped a lot. This was because it was >neutral toe in with the tail up, but over 1 degree toe in three point. >If your plane does not track straight and easy you need to find out why >and fix it. > >For those of you building and not yet flying a tailwheel plane, don't >let all this discussion bother you. I have found that most people that >have tailwheel experience get the hang of the Kitfox in 3 to 5 landings. >After that they are just working on making them better, but they are not >in question. My 21 year old son had never flown a tailwheel plane, but >had about 200 hours in a Vixen. He had all of 15 minutes of duel before >he was soloed in the 5 tailwheel and never had a problem. I will agree >with the comment that not all CFI's are good in a Kitfox. Find someone >that really knows the plane because it is a little different than most >other planes due to the low mass and the way it decelerates in the >flair, and in how the controls work in the flair. If you don't have >anyone local and you are nervous get with John McBean. He is the pro. >You might consider bringing him to your location for an inspection of >your plane and duel instruction. The BS stops when the prop starts. It >will cost you some, but my guess is that it will be the best money you >spend. IMHO > >Alan > >Alan > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:21:14 PM PST US
    From: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Prop tape
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net> Thanks Don That confirms why spray can paint works so well. The epoxy they use is actually clear. The black is for UV protection. Jim Shumaker I didn't realize the Warp Drive prop was > even painted until that conversation. I thought the black finish was > mixed > in with the carbon fiber process. > > Don Smythe > Classic IV w/ 582


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    Time: 11:09:27 PM PST US
    From: N81JG@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Bearing sealant
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: N81JG@aol.com Is this for the bronze bushings that go in the elevator tubes and the an3 or 4 bolts go through? Dad




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