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1. 09:04 AM - Re: sun (Andrew Matthaey)
2. 09:09 AM - Re: Prop tape (Lowell Fitt)
3. 10:25 AM - Re: sun (Michel Verheughe)
4. 10:41 AM - Re: Singing in the rain (Michel Verheughe)
5. 10:41 AM - Re: Young Kitfox pilot (Michel Verheughe)
6. 10:46 AM - Re: Speedster VS Standard Wings.... (Jimmy Crane)
7. 10:57 AM - Re: Jab report (Michel Verheughe)
8. 11:26 AM - Re: Young Kitfox pilot (Andrew Matthaey)
9. 08:48 PM - Re: Wheel pants installation instructions ()
10. 09:28 PM - Re: Singing in the rain (jimshumaker)
11. 10:05 PM - Re: Wheel pants installation instructions (Norm Beauchamp)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Hey Mike,
Where in Maine are you located? I am in Nashua, NH - but I spend a lot of
time up near Saco, where my girlfriends family lives.
Andrew
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>From: skyflyte@comcast.net
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: sun
>Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 21:19:10 +0000
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: skyflyte@comcast.net
>
>And here in New England, and Maine especially, we have had 5 rained out
>weekends in a row. And the last 7 days were all rain, about 5" of it. But
>today it cleared, the sun reappeared, and everyone is trying to make it
>summer! Now we can go flying!
>Mike
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan Daniels
> >
> > It is perfect flying weather here. Nice sun, 100 mile visibility, cool
> > mountain air. We have nice sun here, but the people in the southwest
> > really have sun. It is so strong and hot that it would probably put a
> > northern boy like me in shock, might kill you.
>
>And here in New England, and Maine especially, we have had 5 rained out
>weekends in a row. And the last 7 days were all rain, about 5" of it. But
>today it cleared, the sun reappeared, and everyone is trying to make it
>summer! Now we can go flying!
>Mike
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> -- Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan Daniels <ALDANIELS@FMTC.COM>
>
> It is perfect flying weather here. Nice sun, 100 mile visibility, cool
> mountain air. We have nice sun here, but the people in the southwest
> really have sun. It is so strong and hot that it would probably put a
> northern boy like me in shock, might kill you.
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Jim
Sorry about the clumsy edit. I tried to clean up the post. The UV and
epoxy comment was in response to your post on the black laquer on the Warp
Prop.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Prop tape
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker"
> <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Lowell
>
> The way my name precedes the statement about UV it looks like maybe I said
> that "UV does not harm epoxy". I appreciate your keeping us straight on
> these issues. I hope you do not associate me with making such a
> statement.
> UV absolutely does deteriorate epoxies.
>
> Thank you for your input on this.
>
> Jim Shumaker
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Prop tape
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>>
>>
>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: David James <austgrains@yahoo.com>
>>
>>>> In a message dated 5/28/2005 1:24:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>>>> jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net writes:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Don
>>>>
>>>> That confirms why spray can paint works so well. The epoxy they use
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>> actually clear. The black is for UV protection.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Shumaker
>>>
>>> UV doesn't harm epoxy, think of all the clear epoxy/carbon products you
>>> come across. I think the paint is to cover up flaws in the prop.
>>
>> I don't think the latter is an accurate statement. I found this in the
>> West
>> Systems page. Consider that they are largely in the boating industry
>> where
>> is lots of sun and they if anyone would be up to date on UV exposure.
>>
>> Quote:
>> "This hardener was especially developed for use with WEST SYSTEM Brand
>> 105
>> Resin in coating applications where an exceptionally clear,
>> moisture-resistant, natural wood finish is desired. Cures to a light
>> amber
>> color, similar to traditional spar varnishes. An ultraviolet inhibiting
>> additive improves the resistance of a WEST SYSTEM 105/207 mixture to
>> sunlight, but the cured epoxy surface will still require the additional
>> protection of a quality UV-filtering varnish. 207 is designed to self
>> level
>> for smooth finishes, and to wet-out and bond fabrics. Although it
>> provides
>> good physical properties for general bonding applications, it is more
>> difficult to thicken and less cost effective for this purpose than 205 or
>> 206 Hardeners. It's also used for laminating veneers where bleed through
>> at
>> joints may be exposed to sunlight."
>>
>> Lowell
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Alan Daniels wrote:
> Michel my offer from a few years ago still stands. Anytime you can make
> it to my part of the would the vacation and flying is on me.
Thank you Alan. It could indeed be very nice. The problem with friendship on
this list is the big distance that separate us. I know that some of you meet
sometimes but even here, in Norway, if I was to meet Torgeir, I would need to
fly maybe 15 hours. I might do it, though, one day. But right now, I am
preparing my longest trip, to Belgium. I just have to fly the sky my father
flew from WWII to the sixties. And I have to fly over cemetery where my parents
rest. My ETD is anytime from two weeks from now. I'll follow carefully the
weather and make a decision 24 hours before. I hope the succession of lows
northern Europe has seen lately will soon make place to a nice stationary high
with little wind and ... sunshine! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Singing in the rain |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
jimshumaker wrote:
> Flying in the rain will not ruin the prop in a single flight
> unless you hit hail. It will slowly lower its efficiency.
Thanks Jim and Kurt. What can I expect to see if I do fly in rain? The lacker
of my prop gets tarnished? Or is it only the leading edge that suffers?
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Young Kitfox pilot |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Andrew Matthaey wrote:
> and I got muddy along with the underside of my wings :)
:-) Yes, it can be messy with the doors open. Do you feel you get a better
peripheral view and evaluate your distance from the ground when landing with
the doors open, Andrew?
Cheers,
Michel
PS: From reading this list, I understand that you have to be careful and avoid
side slipping with the doors open. You may blow your turtle deck away.
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| Subject: | Re: Speedster VS Standard Wings.... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmy Crane" <jimmy_crane@hotmail.com>
Mike, Thanks for you response to my inquiry. I'm getting about 50/50
response on the subject which is interesting but I've still got to make up
my mind. New Subject! I saw your great looking N728KF in the June issue
of SportAviation. Man is that a great look in IV. I see you the a nose
wheel. I was talking to Frank about the possibility of converting my 1994
model IV to a tri gear and he said the conversion kit they sold would not
apply to my 1994 fuselage. In you artical under Arizona Kitfox you stated
you purchased your kit in 1992. Did it come as a try gear or did you
convert. I would be interested in the details if you didn't mind sharing.
Thank!
Jimmy Crane
Classic IV
Stockbridge
>From: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speedster VS Standard Wings....
>Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:00:40 -0700
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
>
>Jimmy sez:
>
> >I understand that with the clipped wing you gain a little speed but
> >require a little more runway to takeoff and land. Any info would be
> >greatly appreciated.
>
>I dunno, Jimmy. My 912S powered Model IV Speedster (short wings)
>could get off the ground in Phoenix (95 degrees F, 1475' field
>elevation) in 120 feet solo (measured). I never felt like I gave up
>much in the way of takeoff performance.
>
>I liked the heavier wing loading, I think it rides better in
>turbulence. And it certainly was responsive in roll (120 degrees per
>second was the factory number, I believe).
>
>It was easy to hit 125 - 130 mph or more in cruise at mid-altitudes
>(4000 - 8000 feet) and top speed was near Vne. I took it up to
>17,500 one day during the flight test period and it retained its
>responsive handling and solid feel. At those altitudes I'm sure it
>had lost any speed advantage over the long wings, though.
>
>This topic has been discussed at length in the archives, you might
>want to take a look through them.
>
>Mike G.
>N728KF
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
kurt schrader wrote:
> *My last entry on the list until I return.
... then you'll read this under the sun of Florida, Kurt! :-)
> But you could very well get flutter from it. Not
> good. This would be another reason to use an opening
> spring in my opinion.
Good Lord! No, flutter wouldn't be good. I didn't think of that. Yes, a spring
could be good. But the spring would be one of the things that may fail, and if
I want a fail-safe design, I'll need something else to make sure it stays open.
> You could use your X-Plane simulator to "see" the
> pressure around your cowl, right?
Unfortunately no, Kurt. While we did some experiment with Mathias, it was done
entirely on airfoils. Those are pretty well simulated if you can enter the
correct coefficients of lift, drag and moment for each AoA. But modelling the
air flow around a cowl flap would need CFM (computerized fluid modelling) and
that demands large "number-cruncher" computers that work for hours to produce a
single time frame.
> I do not believe that you need 4 times the exit as
> cowl entry for your engine.
Yes, it may have been an exaggeration from my dealer. But I still have to
witness the heat of the summer to be sure. One thing, though: I went flying two
days ago and while my CHT was "cool" as usual, I noticed that the oil
temperature was going up to a point where I even considered "step climb" to let
it cool a bit. And yes, I have the oil cooler on.
> With your current door, do you close off the
> exit more than 2 to 1 when fully closed?
With the current door, I close entirely by getting the door to rest on the
bottom of the fuselage. But the door is not all the way to the edge of the
opening. It covers only 75% of it. I did it that way because I am afraid to
close entirely by error and create a high pressure inside the cowling that
might blow it open ... from the top.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Young Kitfox pilot |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Yep - I think I do get a better picture while landing with the doors
open...but honestly, I really don't remember too much about any of my
landings - I pretty much just do what needs to be done to stay down and in
one piece. It seems to be working, because I'm pretty happy with most of my
landings ;) I'll bring a video camera with me one time so that I can
evaluate my own landings more in-depth!
I didn't know about slipping with the doors open and losing the
turtle-deck...that would really ruin my day! I have the less-than-great
doorlocks that came with the series 3, so during a slip, the outboard door
has a tendency to swing open - startles the passengers a bit!
Andrew
>From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Young Kitfox pilot
>Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 19:35:22 +0200
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>Andrew Matthaey wrote:
> > and I got muddy along with the underside of my wings :)
>
>:-) Yes, it can be messy with the doors open. Do you feel you get a better
>peripheral view and evaluate your distance from the ground when landing
>with
>the doors open, Andrew?
>
>Cheers,
>Michel
>
>PS: From reading this list, I understand that you have to be careful and
>avoid
>side slipping with the doors open. You may blow your turtle deck away.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wheel pants installation instructions |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <gjglh@cebridge.net>
Norm,
It looks like the instructions that Hank had were for the tube gear. If yours are
for
the spring I sure would like to get a copy.
Gary Henderson
1808 Sandstone
Weatherford, OK 73096
P.S.
I will reinburse you for any expenses. If you don't mind I could send Hank a copy
after I receive them.
Thanks
Gary Mdl IV Speedster
On Wed May 25 17:40 , Norm Beauchamp <nebchmp@wcc.net> sent:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Norm Beauchamp nebchmp@wcc.net>
>
>Gary,
>
>I have the instructions if you still need them. Norm
>
>gjglh@cebridge.net wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: gjglh@cebridge.net>
>>
>>
>> A fellow kitfoxer just gave me his wheel pants from his kitfox.
>>They are still in the rough and need to be made to fit. The
>>problem I have is that he has the instructions are to fit the
>>wheel pants to his standard gear. I have the aluminum spring gear
>>on my speedster. Does anyone have a copy of the installation
>>instructions for this type of gear?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Gary
>>M-IV speester
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Singing in the rain |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Michel
You said you have some sort of protection on the leading edge of your prop
so I do not know what will happen on yours.
On my props they caused pitting in the leading edge of both the wooden and
Carbon fiber props.
Jim Shumaker
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| Subject: | Re: Wheel pants installation instructions |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Norm Beauchamp <nebchmp@wcc.net>
Gary,
Hey ok, give me a day or two. I'll let you know when I mail them. Norm
gjglh@cebridge.net wrote:
>Norm,
>
>It looks like the instructions that Hank had were for the tube gear. If yours
are for
>the spring I sure would like to get a copy.
>Gary Henderson
>1808 Sandstone
>Weatherford, OK 73096
>
>P.S.
>I will reinburse you for any expenses. If you don't mind I could send Hank a copy
>after I receive them.
>Thanks
>Gary Mdl IV Speedster
>
>
>
>
>
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