---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/01/05: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:45 AM - Prop setting for break-in (Dieflyer@aol.com) 2. 08:54 AM - differential steering springs (Dieflyer@aol.com) 3. 10:43 AM - Re: Prop setting for break-in (Clem Nichols) 4. 11:01 AM - Re: differential steering springs (Jose M. Toro) 5. 12:27 PM - Re: Fw: Props? (N81JG@aol.com) 6. 02:07 PM - Open doors WAS: Young Kitfox pilot (Michel Verheughe) 7. 05:11 PM - Re: A Fitting Question (Paul Wilson) 8. 06:23 PM - Re: Speedster VS Standard Wings.... (Herbert R Gottelt) 9. 09:46 PM - Re: Open doors WAS: Young Kitfox pilot (Andrew Matthaey) 10. 11:53 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:00 AM PST US From: Dieflyer@aol.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Prop setting for break-in --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dieflyer@aol.com After several hours of searching the archives, I have come up empty-handed. I am about to do my break-in run of my new bluehead 582. I have a 70" 3-blade Warp Drive prop, with a 3:1 gearbox. Having never flown the plane, I don't know what initial pitch to set on my prop to achieve the break-in static r.p.m. Hopefully someone with the same set-up could get me in the ballpark? Thanks for any response. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:18 AM PST US From: Dieflyer@aol.com Subject: Kitfox-List: differential steering springs --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dieflyer@aol.com I purchased the differential tailwheel steering springs from ACS for my model 2. Does the heavier spring go on the right as stated, or on the left due to left hand prop? These are compression springs, the originals are tension springs and are both the same. I have read a lot in the archives about the pros and cons of both types and the effect of different tensions, but nothing about which side the heavy spring goes on or why. Any enlightenment will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:45 AM PST US From: "Clem Nichols" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Prop setting for break-in --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" I had the same setup on a Rans S12 a few years ago. 13 degrees pitch worked well on it. Clem Nichols ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Kitfox-List: Prop setting for break-in > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dieflyer@aol.com > > After several hours of searching the archives, I have come up > empty-handed. > I am about to do my break-in run of my new bluehead 582. I have a 70" > 3-blade > Warp Drive prop, with a 3:1 gearbox. Having never flown the plane, I > don't > know what initial pitch to set on my prop to achieve the break-in static > r.p.m. Hopefully someone with the same set-up could get me in the > ballpark? Thanks > for any response. > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:23 AM PST US From: "Jose M. Toro" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: differential steering springs --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" The heavier spring must be used as specified in the instructions. It is not used to correct for prop torque, but to correct for the tailwheel assembly assymetry (fork in only one side of the wheel). These springs work excellent in my KF II. Jose --- Dieflyer@aol.com wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dieflyer@aol.com > > I purchased the differential tailwheel steering > springs from ACS for my > model 2. Does the heavier spring go on the right as > stated, or on the left due to > left hand prop? These are compression springs, the > originals are tension > springs and are both the same. I have read a lot in > the archives about the pros > and cons of both types and the effect of different > tensions, but nothing about > which side the heavy spring goes on or why. Any > enlightenment will be > greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > > Jose M. Toro, P.E. Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200 "A slow flight in the Caribbean..." __________________________________ Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:27:36 PM PST US From: N81JG@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: Kitfox-List: Props? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: N81JG@aol.com Anybody trying that new hollow carbon fiber ground adjustable prop by Sensenich? It should be available soon. Looks like a good fit for the Kitfox. John ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:07:09 PM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Kitfox-List: Open doors WAS: Young Kitfox pilot --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe Andrew Matthaey wrote: > I love flying with the doors open Have you tried to remove the doors entirely, Andrew? Cheers, Michel ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:00 PM PST US From: Paul Wilson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: A Fitting Question --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul Wilson Proper hose for Unleaded fuel in the US is SAE R7 or R9. Buy it from any auto supply store. Proper hose for 100LL is Mil 6000 hose. SAE hose works fine with 100LL. Buy it from any aircraft supply house. Read the archives and get more info than you would ever want to read But I think the above summarizes the bottom line. If you want or have to use AN fittings the same hose will work but there is no improvement in safety or reliability. BTW; push on hose should always be used with beaded tubing ends. Barbes will work but the hose is usually destroyed when removing from barbed fittings. Paul ============= At 12:16 PM 5/31/2005, you wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfox@gto.net > >Don, just catching up here. > >I have seen in Canada some N numberd Kitfoxes and other homebuilts. >The A&P that sign them off on annuals are not always that tough I have >found. >They let go automotive rubber fuel lines. Fuel lines without fire >sleeves. Unsealed firewalls, Improper hardware as per AC 43.11 and >wiring as well. > >Canada regs are a bit stiffer that US regs but some stuff is blatantly >barely fit when they sign off the annuals. > >Kitfox here can be registered as Ultra light to a home built depending >on certain things they must be met. > > >on AN fittings for fuel line, look at the black line on KITFOX shut off >valves. They get hard and imo should be replaced. Tygon or urethane >seems to be very good replacements. > > >Kirby > > > > He is wrong. I think a lot of these FBO's, A&P's, long time >Pilots that > > have never been involved in Exp aircraft just simply apply what they >have > > seen on Certified aircraft. The use of good AN hardware is >certainly advised. > > I have another opinion on the barbed fittings. Once a hose is >pushed > > onto a barb fitting, it "almost" doesn't even need a clamp (seals >good). Also, > > "I believe" a hose should be pushed onto a barbed fitting only once. > When > > it gets removed for any reason, it tends to "tear" the inside of the >hose > > causing a good spot for small rubber particles to be torn loose and >end up in the > > Carb. So, if you pull one off for any reason, either trim the end >to expose > > new hose or replace it. If you have a hose that needs disconnecting > > > regularly, use the AN type. > > > > Don Smythe > > Classic IV w/ 582 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:39 PM PST US From: Herbert R Gottelt Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speedster VS Standard Wings.... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Herbert R Gottelt The difference between long vs. short wings has been pointed out often enough. It is little more than cosmetic, unless you want to add floats or amphibs. With short wings you would be water taxiing forever without ever getting airborn. Herb Gottelt. Jimmy Crane wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmy Crane" Mike, Thanks for you response to my inquiry. I'm getting about 50/50 response on the subject which is interesting but I've still got to make up my mind. New Subject! I saw your great looking N728KF in the June issue of SportAviation. Man is that a great look in IV. I see you the a nose wheel. I was talking to Frank about the possibility of converting my 1994 model IV to a tri gear and he said the conversion kit they sold would not apply to my 1994 fuselage. In you artical under Arizona Kitfox you stated you purchased your kit in 1992. Did it come as a try gear or did you convert. I would be interested in the details if you didn't mind sharing. Thank! Jimmy Crane Classic IV Stockbridge >From: Michael Gibbs >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speedster VS Standard Wings.... >Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:00:40 -0700 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs > >Jimmy sez: > > >I understand that with the clipped wing you gain a little speed but > >require a little more runway to takeoff and land. Any info would be > >greatly appreciated. > >I dunno, Jimmy. My 912S powered Model IV Speedster (short wings) >could get off the ground in Phoenix (95 degrees F, 1475' field >elevation) in 120 feet solo (measured). I never felt like I gave up >much in the way of takeoff performance. > >I liked the heavier wing loading, I think it rides better in >turbulence. And it certainly was responsive in roll (120 degrees per >second was the factory number, I believe). > >It was easy to hit 125 - 130 mph or more in cruise at mid-altitudes >(4000 - 8000 feet) and top speed was near Vne. I took it up to >17,500 one day during the flight test period and it retained its >responsive handling and solid feel. At those altitudes I'm sure it >had lost any speed advantage over the long wings, though. > >This topic has been discussed at length in the archives, you might >want to take a look through them. > >Mike G. >N728KF > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:46:51 PM PST US From: "Andrew Matthaey" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Open doors WAS: Young Kitfox pilot --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" Naw - I wouldn't want to remove the doors completely...sometimes it's nice to be able to shut out all the wind and huddle over a map in cockpit ;) I love the choice! Andrew >From: Michel Verheughe >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: Open doors WAS: Young Kitfox pilot >Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:06:00 +0200 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe > >Andrew Matthaey wrote: > > I love flying with the doors open > >Have you tried to remove the doors entirely, Andrew? > >Cheers, >Michel > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:53:39 PM PST US From: dralle@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] DNA: do not archive --> Kitfox-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com Dear Lister, Please read over the Kitfox-List Usage Guidelines below. 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