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Sat 06/04/05


Total Messages Posted: 18



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     1. 04:04 AM - Re: Powerfin prop (David James)
     2. 04:26 AM - Re: Fw: Props? (Lynn Matteson)
     3. 04:27 AM - Re: 16.5 x 8 x 8 tires (Lynn Matteson)
     4. 04:56 AM - Re: Fw: Props? (Brian Rodgers)
     5. 06:57 AM - Re: Powerfin prop (Lowell Fitt)
     6. 09:01 AM - Re: Fw: Props? (Jimmie Blackwell)
     7. 09:07 AM - Re: Subaru EA81 question (Fox5flyer)
     8. 09:56 AM - Re: Powerfin prop (Andrew Matthaey)
     9. 10:36 AM - Re: Powerfin prop (Randy Daughenbaugh)
    10. 10:54 AM - Re: Subaru EA81 question (Clem Nichols)
    11. 01:19 PM - New Rotax 912 Installation Video (Jon Croke)
    12. 02:50 PM - Re: Powerfin prop (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
    13. 02:54 PM - Off-topic but funny (Michel Verheughe)
    14. 06:59 PM - Re: Off-topic but funny (Nelson J. Goguen)
    15. 07:15 PM - Re: Off-topic but funny (Clem Nichols)
    16. 07:47 PM - Re: Powerfin prop (Herbert R Gottelt)
    17. 08:01 PM - Re: Off-topic but funny (Rick)
    18. 08:15 PM - Re: Off-topic but funny (Rockitfox@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:04:41 AM PST US
    From: David James <austgrains@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Powerfin prop
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: David James <austgrains@yahoo.com> > Two blades are more effecient...but I hear not quite as smooth or quiet > due > to higher tip speeds... > > I have been tempted too.... > > I have to say, I am very happy with the IVO.... That is only because you haven't tried one of the better props. Have a look at the Bolly prop or the Russian props they have a "Real" prop blade shape, beautiful curves and twist not a plank of wood shape. They are a lot quieter too. My new prop is a Bolly, never again will I use a Warp or Ivo. __________________________________ Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html


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    Time: 04:26:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Props?
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> I'd appreciate that, Jimmie. I've got a local Goodyear dealer, but when I went to him last year, he couldn't find a tire that small. A stock number would give him no excuse. : ) Are yours rounded in cross-section? Lynn On Friday, June 3, 2005, at 11:20 PM, Jimmie Blackwell wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" > <jablackwell@ev1.net> > > Goodyear has them, 16.5x6.50x8.00 4 ply. I can get you a stock number > if > you want. The ones I bought are primarily for Golf Carts and cost 18 > bucks > apiece. > > I have about 200 landings on mine with no problem. > > Jimmie


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    Time: 04:27:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 16.5 x 8 x 8 tires
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Found it, Dave...thanks....sometimes I forget about using google, but I wasn't sure if that was a proper name, or a misprint, or what. Lynn do not archive On Friday, June 3, 2005, at 06:29 PM, Aerobatics@aol.com wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com > > google the word desser > > youll find it! > > Dave > >


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    Time: 04:56:47 AM PST US
    From: "Brian Rodgers" <brodg@texas.net>
    Subject: Re: Props?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brian Rodgers" <brodg@texas.net> Regarding that "200" numbers, it s/b mentioned that Jimmie's squatting 3-pt landings are very easy on the main tires! hee hee.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net> Subject: Re: Fw: Kitfox-List: Props? > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net> > > Goodyear has them, 16.5x6.50x8.00 4 ply. I can get you a stock number if > you want. The ones I bought are primarily for Golf Carts and cost 18 bucks > apiece. > > I have about 200 landings on mine with no problem. > > Jimmie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Fw: Kitfox-List: Props? > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> > > > > Kirby, where did you get your 16.5x8x8 tires? > > I've tried several places,(Rocky Mtn, local tire dealers, etc) and > > can't seem to find them. (I'm in Michigan) > > > > Lynn > > > > On Tuesday, May 31, 2005, at 02:04 PM, kitfox@gto.net wrote: > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfox@gto.net > > > > > > Andrew, no wheel pants here, just tube gear is faired. > > > I got 16.5 x 8 x 8 wheels and land off strip many times. > > > > > > Mud will clog up wheel pants and I prefer to not have them. > > > > > > You got a space over your horiz stab. ? > > > > > > > > > Kirby > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:57:45 AM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Powerfin prop
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> Andrew, I have no experience with the two blade Powerfin, but the three blade, at least on the 912, will boost climb, but reduce cruise. This was demonstrated by two friends that switched. One from a GSC and the other from a Warp Drive. The GSC guy eventually went back to his GSC and regained what he lost. The other guy kept the Powerfin because he liked short strips and liked the climb. This was real stuff as we flew often together and it was obvious to all. One thing they did, though to increase crusie performance a bit was shorten each blade about an inch. I don't understand the aerodynamics, but it seemed to help a bit. Incidentally, welcome to the list. It's really good to see a young face flying. Most of us are dreading our next medical - before Sport Pilot - rather than looking froward to our next rating. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Powerfin prop > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" > <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com> > > I've decided I really want to get a Powerfin on my 'fox...Has anybody gone > from a 3-blade to a 2-blade? What I am really looking for is better cruise > performance. I can give up a little bit on climb, which I understand will > happen - but how much will I benefit in cruise? > > Andrew > > >


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    Time: 09:01:54 AM PST US
    From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
    Subject: Re: Props?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net> I am planning to order new tires myself on Monday. Will send you stock number Monday afternoon. Yes they are rounded, which I think is very important. I tried some tires with a square profile and I thought they made ground handling a bit more difficult. Jimmie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Fw: Kitfox-List: Props? > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> > > I'd appreciate that, Jimmie. I've got a local Goodyear dealer, but when > I went to him last year, he couldn't find a tire that small. A stock > number would give him no excuse. : ) Are yours rounded in cross-section? > > Lynn > On Friday, June 3, 2005, at 11:20 PM, Jimmie Blackwell wrote: > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" > > <jablackwell@ev1.net> > > > > Goodyear has them, 16.5x6.50x8.00 4 ply. I can get you a stock number > > if > > you want. The ones I bought are primarily for Golf Carts and cost 18 > > bucks > > apiece. > > > > I have about 200 landings on mine with no problem. > > > > Jimmie > >


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    Time: 09:07:43 AM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Re: Subaru EA81 question
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> Clem, the reason the plugs on the left side are sooty is because of the shape of the manifold and is normal for low throttle engine runs. They clear up at flying rpms. As for the compression, did you do it with wide open throttle? That's important to get a good test. Try the test when the engine is cold and let us know the results. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Subaru EA81 question > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com> > > Yesterday as part of the annual condition inspection on my Model IV with the NSI EA81 firewall forward package I removed the plugs from my engine in order to check the valve settings. All 4 plugs were tan in color with no evidence of carbon buildup. Only 3 of the 8 valves required minor adjustment. I then reinstalled the plugs and ran the engine for several minutes at 2000 rpm to warm it up for a compression test. Unfortunately, I didn't pay any attention to the plugs when I removed them this time, but later noticed that 2 of the 4 were sooty black. (The other 2 were still tan with no soot whatsoever) Needless to say, I don't know which plug came from which cylinder. The compression test showed 160 psi in cylinders 1 and 2 (those toward the cockpit) and 148 pounds in cylinders 3 and 4 at the prop end. All of the above was done with the plane in typical tail-dragger position, so cylinders 3 and 4 were slightly higher than 1 and 2. Also the air filter was removed from! > the Ellison TBI while the engine was run and during the compression test. Obviously the difference in compression can be due to several factors (I didn't do a wet test), but I found it a little unusual that both cylinders toward the rear of the plane showed exactly the same reading and both cylinders toward the front of the plane also showed exactly the same reading but 12 pounds less than the others. I also am puzzled by the fact that 2 of the plugs after the warmup run were sooty while the other 2 were not. Could the unlevel position of the engine during this time have anything to do with the above? I'd appreciate any thoughts or suggestions. > > Clem Nichols > >


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    Time: 09:56:10 AM PST US
    From: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Powerfin prop
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com> Shortening the blades to increase cruise? Huh...never heard of that. Thanks for the welcome! I find that people are very surprised when they see me taxiing up to a parking spot in my Kitfox - they can't believe it's mine ;) Most of my friends and co-workers are shocked that I've had my PPL for well over a year now, and even more shocked that I have an airplane...needless to say they are all begging for rides! Oh, and I flew my first x-country in the 'fox yesterday...I left my home airport KDAW at 3.15p for KAUG (Augusta, ME) about 100 miles away. Had a great flight, met a friend for some Dairy Queen, and headed back home. I was getting nervous about my fuel state so I shut-off my left wing-tank with less than a quarter gallon in it - just in case. I was still 15 miles out of the airport over solid trees at 2K when my engine started sputtering and damn near quit! But I was faster than Superman getting that fuel valve open and ready with a shot of primer...I eased up on the throttle and entered the pattern - I was dismayed when, on final approach, I saw the last of my fuel drip through the in-line filter in the cockpit...I had just enough to land, taxi off, and even park in front of my hangar ;) What a great day! Two of my buddies were pulling their planes out, so I threw another 5 gallons in my right tank and went out for another 1 hr or so enjoying the evening and taking lots of pictures! So I got to log 4.1 on my day off... Anyway, lessons learned: No more than 3 hrs. at cruise anymore! That leaves me a comfortable reserve. Number 2: Get a small gas can that I can sling behind my seat, just in case! Also, I was using Marvel Mystery Oil for the first time - It seemed to work okay. I'm gonna pull out the plugs in a couple hours and see how they look...Does anybody else use MMO in their 2-strokes? Andrew >From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Powerfin prop >Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:56:24 -0700 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> > >Andrew, > >I have no experience with the two blade Powerfin, but the three blade, at >least on the 912, will boost climb, but reduce cruise. This was >demonstrated by two friends that switched. One from a GSC and the other >from a Warp Drive. The GSC guy eventually went back to his GSC and >regained >what he lost. The other guy kept the Powerfin because he liked short >strips >and liked the climb. > >This was real stuff as we flew often together and it was obvious to all. >One thing they did, though to increase crusie performance a bit was shorten >each blade about an inch. I don't understand the aerodynamics, but it >seemed to help a bit. > >Incidentally, welcome to the list. It's really good to see a young face >flying. Most of us are dreading our next medical - before Sport Pilot - >rather than looking froward to our next rating. > >Lowell > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Kitfox-List: Powerfin prop > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" > > <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com> > > > > I've decided I really want to get a Powerfin on my 'fox...Has anybody >gone > > from a 3-blade to a 2-blade? What I am really looking for is better >cruise > > performance. I can give up a little bit on climb, which I understand >will > > happen - but how much will I benefit in cruise? > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/


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    Time: 10:36:44 AM PST US
    From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
    Subject: Powerfin prop
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> Andrew, I forgot what engine you have. I have a 912S and the Powerfin "F", 72" three blade. I Found exactly what Lowell repots below. Very quick off the ground, but I wish it had more top end. I am still playing with it, but Powerfin suggests cutting it shorter. I have real trouble with that because I like the short take offs. Greedy. I want both! It is easy to adjust pitch and smooth. I got the bright idea that what I should do is get a new hub for two blades. I figure that this should let the engine wrap up to higher RPM's on takeoff even with more pitch for top end speed. BUT,,,, Powerfin doesn't make a two blade hub for the 912S. Stuart at Powerfin says that he is working on a new product line that will offer that, but it will require new hubs and blades! One good thing about the three blade is that it really put the brakes on to give a steep descent for landing. A two blade would not be as good for that. Randy - Series 5/7 . -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Powerfin prop --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> Andrew, I have no experience with the two blade Powerfin, but the three blade, at least on the 912, will boost climb, but reduce cruise. This was demonstrated by two friends that switched. One from a GSC and the other from a Warp Drive. The GSC guy eventually went back to his GSC and regained what he lost. The other guy kept the Powerfin because he liked short strips and liked the climb. This was real stuff as we flew often together and it was obvious to all. One thing they did, though to increase crusie performance a bit was shorten each blade about an inch. I don't understand the aerodynamics, but it seemed to help a bit. Incidentally, welcome to the list. It's really good to see a young face flying. Most of us are dreading our next medical - before Sport Pilot - rather than looking froward to our next rating. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Powerfin prop > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" > <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com> > > I've decided I really want to get a Powerfin on my 'fox...Has anybody gone > from a 3-blade to a 2-blade? What I am really looking for is better cruise > performance. I can give up a little bit on climb, which I understand will > happen - but how much will I benefit in cruise? > > Andrew > > >


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    Time: 10:54:25 AM PST US
    From: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
    Subject: Re: Subaru EA81 question
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com> Hi, Deke, and thanks for your response. Yes, the compression test was done with the throttle wide open. Clem Nichols ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Subaru EA81 question > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > Clem, the reason the plugs on the left side are sooty is because of the > shape of the manifold and is normal for low throttle engine runs. They > clear up at flying rpms. > As for the compression, did you do it with wide open throttle? That's > important to get a good test. > Try the test when the engine is cold and let us know the results. > Deke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com> > To: "kitfox list" <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Subaru EA81 question > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com> >> >> Yesterday as part of the annual condition inspection on my Model IV with > the NSI EA81 firewall forward package I removed the plugs from my engine > in > order to check the valve settings. All 4 plugs were tan in color with no > evidence of carbon buildup. Only 3 of the 8 valves required minor > adjustment. I then reinstalled the plugs and ran the engine for several > minutes at 2000 rpm to warm it up for a compression test. Unfortunately, > I > didn't pay any attention to the plugs when I removed them this time, but > later noticed that 2 of the 4 were sooty black. (The other 2 were still > tan > with no soot whatsoever) Needless to say, I don't know which plug came > from > which cylinder. The compression test showed 160 psi in cylinders 1 and 2 > (those toward the cockpit) and 148 pounds in cylinders 3 and 4 at the prop > end. All of the above was done with the plane in typical tail-dragger > position, so cylinders 3 and 4 were slightly higher than 1 and 2. Also > the > air filter was removed from! >> the Ellison TBI while the engine was run and during the compression > test. Obviously the difference in compression can be due to several > factors > (I didn't do a wet test), but I found it a little unusual that both > cylinders toward the rear of the plane showed exactly the same reading and > both cylinders toward the front of the plane also showed exactly the same > reading but 12 pounds less than the others. I also am puzzled by the fact > that 2 of the plugs after the warmup run were sooty while the other 2 were > not. Could the unlevel position of the engine during this time have > anything to do with the above? I'd appreciate any thoughts or > suggestions. >> >> Clem Nichols >> >> > > >


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    Time: 01:19:53 PM PST US
    From: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
    Subject: New Rotax 912 Installation Video
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com> A quick advertisement, so it's the only time it will be shown....! After many months of hard work, HomebuiltHELP is proud to announce that the "ROTAX 912 Installation Tips and Techniques" DVD video has been completed and is now shipping. This is a training presentation on installing, wiring and configuring the 912 family of engines for experimental aircraft. Think of it as a video presentation of the Rotax Installation guide and then some! Details at: http://Homebuilthelp.com/912.htm Thanks Jon


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    Time: 02:50:29 PM PST US
    From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Powerfin prop
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 6/4/2005 12:57:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, spaghettiohead@hotmail.com writes: Oh, and I flew my first x-country in the 'fox yesterday...I left my home airport KDAW at 3.15p for KAUG (Augusta, ME) about 100 miles away. Had a great flight, met a friend for some Dairy Queen, and headed back home. I was getting nervous about my fuel state so I shut-off my left wing-tank with less than a quarter gallon in it - just in case. I was still 15 miles out of the airport over solid trees at 2K when my engine started sputtering and damn near quit! But I was faster than Superman getting that fuel valve open and ready with a shot of primer...I eased up on the throttle and entered the pattern - I was dismayed when, on final approach, I saw the last of my fuel drip through the in-line filter in the cockpit...I had just enough to land, taxi off, and even park in front of my hangar ;) What a great day! Two of my buddies were pulling their planes out, so I threw another 5 gallons in my right tank and went out for another 1 hr or so enjoying the evening and taking lots of pictures! So I got to log 4.1 on my day off... Anyway, lessons learned: No more than 3 hrs. at cruise anymore! That leaves me a comfortable reserve. Number 2: Get a small gas can that I can sling behind my seat, just in case! Also, I was using Marvel Mystery Oil for the first time - It seemed to work okay. I'm gonna pull out the plugs in a couple hours and see how they look...Does anybody else use MMO in their 2-strokes? Andrew Andrew, You are kidding aren't you? Don Smythe Classic IV w/ 582


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    Time: 02:54:15 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Off-topic but funny
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> How many list members does it takes to change a light bulb? One to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed. Fourteen to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently. Seven to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. Seven more to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs. Five to flame the spell checkers. Three to correct spelling/grammar flames. Six to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" .. another six to condemn those six as stupid. Fifteen to claim experience in the lighting industry and give the correct spelling. Nineteen to post that this group is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb (or light bulb) forum. Eleven to defend the posting to the group saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this group. Thirty six to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique and what brands are faulty Seven to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs. Four to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL. Three to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group. Thirteen to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too" Five to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy. Four to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?" Thirteen to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs" Three to tell a funny story about their show dog and a light bulb. AND One group lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again. Cheers, Michel DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 06:59:15 PM PST US
    From: "Nelson J. Goguen" <mino@rcn.com>
    Subject: Re: Off-topic but funny
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Nelson J. Goguen" <mino@rcn.com> Michel, I'm setting aside December 4th to respond to this post. ( I thought it was funny) Nelson DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no> Subject: Kitfox-List: Off-topic but funny >  > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> > > How many list members does it takes to change a light bulb? > > One to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been > changed. > > Fourteen to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the > light > bulb could have been changed differently. > > Seven to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. > > Seven more to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing > light > bulbs. > > Five to flame the spell checkers. > > Three to correct spelling/grammar flames. > > Six to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" .. another six > to > condemn those six as stupid. > > Fifteen to claim experience in the lighting industry and give the correct > spelling. > > Nineteen to post that this group is not about light bulbs and to please > take > this discussion to a lightbulb (or light bulb) forum. > > Eleven to defend the posting to the group saying that we all use light > bulbs > and therefore the posts are relevant to this group. > > Thirty six to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, > where to > buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this > technique and what brands are faulty > > Seven to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs. > > Four to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly and then post the > corrected > URL. > > Three to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to > this > group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group. > > Thirteen to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including > all > headers and signatures, and add "Me too" > > Five to post to the group that they will no longer post because they > cannot > handle the light bulb controversy. > > Four to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?" > > Thirteen to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting > questions > about light bulbs" > > Three to tell a funny story about their show dog and a light bulb. AND One > group lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start > it all > over again. > > Cheers, > Michel > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > >


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    Time: 07:15:40 PM PST US
    From: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
    Subject: Re: Off-topic but funny
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com> Michel: Very astute, and right on the point. Clem Nichols DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no> Subject: Kitfox-List: Off-topic but funny > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> > > How many list members does it takes to change a light bulb? > > One to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been > changed. > > Fourteen to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the > light > bulb could have been changed differently. > > Seven to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. > > Seven more to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing > light > bulbs. > > Five to flame the spell checkers. > > Three to correct spelling/grammar flames. > > Six to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" .. another six > to > condemn those six as stupid. > > Fifteen to claim experience in the lighting industry and give the correct > spelling. > > Nineteen to post that this group is not about light bulbs and to please > take > this discussion to a lightbulb (or light bulb) forum. > > Eleven to defend the posting to the group saying that we all use light > bulbs > and therefore the posts are relevant to this group. > > Thirty six to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, > where to > buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this > technique and what brands are faulty > > Seven to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs. > > Four to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly and then post the > corrected > URL. > > Three to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to > this > group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group. > > Thirteen to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including > all > headers and signatures, and add "Me too" > > Five to post to the group that they will no longer post because they > cannot > handle the light bulb controversy. > > Four to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?" > > Thirteen to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting > questions > about light bulbs" > > Three to tell a funny story about their show dog and a light bulb. AND One > group lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start > it all > over again. > > Cheers, > Michel > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > >


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    Time: 07:47:59 PM PST US
    From: Herbert R Gottelt <gofalke@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Powerfin prop
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Herbert R Gottelt <gofalke@sbcglobal.net> Andrew, I have a powerfin prop. I took it off and replaced it with a Warpdrive taper tip. Both were 3-blade. On my 80hp Rotax the Powerfin seems to require more hp for the same performance. It is thicker and wider and produces more drag. That's my opinion. Herbert Gottelt M4-1200 Mt. Prospect, IL Andrew Matthaey <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" I've decided I really want to get a Powerfin on my 'fox...Has anybody gone from a 3-blade to a 2-blade? What I am really looking for is better cruise performance. I can give up a little bit on climb, which I understand will happen - but how much will I benefit in cruise? Andrew


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    Time: 08:01:11 PM PST US
    From: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
    Subject: Off-topic but funny
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net> To quote a funny comedian...."I don't care who you are; now that's funny". And so true. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clem Nichols Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Off-topic but funny > Cheers, > Michel > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 08:15:28 PM PST US
    From: Rockitfox@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Off-topic but funny
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rockitfox@aol.com I haven't said anything for over two years, but that is funny. Rocky Ruksnaitis




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