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1. 01:01 AM - Re: Kitfoxes to Alaska 2005! (FlyCyOZ@aol.com)
2. 03:41 AM - Re: Identification of Plug Caps (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
3. 04:14 AM - Re: Identification of Plug Caps (Andrew Matthaey)
4. 04:14 AM - Re: NW Ohio fly-in (Lynn Matteson)
5. 04:59 AM - Re: VIxen Inquiry (Kevin Schlosser)
6. 06:10 AM - Alaska 2005 begins... (Cliffford Begnaud)
7. 06:22 AM - Re: Identification of Plug Caps (aerocon1@telusplanet.net)
8. 06:46 AM - Re: Model 2 leaf spring (Napier, Mark)
9. 06:46 AM - : Identification of Plug Caps (kitfox@gto.net)
10. 06:51 AM - Series 7 flaperons ()
11. 07:09 AM - Re: Series 7 flaperons (Cliffford Begnaud)
12. 08:20 AM - Re: Identification of Plug Caps (Marco Menezes)
13. 08:23 AM - Re: Alaska 2005 begins... (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
14. 08:30 AM - Re: Alaska 2005 begins... (Clifford Begnaud)
15. 08:33 AM - Re: Identification of Plug Caps (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
16. 09:24 AM - Annual inspections (Steve Maher)
17. 10:20 AM - Re: Annual inspections (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
18. 03:57 PM - fuel shutoff (Chenoweth)
19. 06:05 PM - Re: fuel shutoff (Rick)
20. 06:33 PM - Re: fuel shutoff (AlbertaIV@AOL.COM)
21. 06:50 PM - Climb-out RPM (Andrew Matthaey)
22. 06:50 PM - Tailwheel Shake (Andrew Matthaey)
23. 07:41 PM - Re: Tailwheel Shake (RAY Gignac)
24. 08:11 PM - Re: Tailwheel Shake (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
25. 08:41 PM - 3rd Pilot almost on way (Clint Bazzill)
26. 08:59 PM - Re: Newbie questions... (Randy Daughenbaugh)
27. 09:05 PM - Re: 3rd Pilot almost on way (Bruce Harrington)
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfoxes to Alaska 2005! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: FlyCyOZ@aol.com
I hope that they have fun............I envy them. I flew in AK for 3+ years.
Are they going to go to OME?
cy
Series 5
Australia
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| Subject: | Re: Identification of Plug Caps |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 6/9/2005 9:03:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rexjan@bigpond.com writes:
Thanks for the info Rex - but how do I know if I have Resistor Caps -
will
they say on the wires or caps at all?
Andrew
Andrew,
Another quick way to possibly determine what you have is, if the caps
are "Burgundy" in color and make of some sort of plastic, then they are likely
Rotax original and non-resistive. The aviation resistor type that I have
are made of metal and have a spring type catch at the bottom. The caps almost
fully encloses the plug.
Don Smythe
Classic IV w/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: Identification of Plug Caps |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Got it - mine are burgundy...the plugs I took out were non-resistor, and I
actually never had any problems with the previous owner's radio and
interference. I have replaced them with resistors and all looks well - we'll
see when I finally get my radio later this week!
Thanks!
Andrew
>From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Identification of Plug Caps
>Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:40:57 EDT
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
>
>In a message dated 6/9/2005 9:03:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>rexjan@bigpond.com writes:
>
>Thanks for the info Rex - but how do I know if I have Resistor Caps -
>will
>they say on the wires or caps at all?
>
>Andrew
>
>
>Andrew,
> Another quick way to possibly determine what you have is, if the
>caps
>are "Burgundy" in color and make of some sort of plastic, then they are
>likely
>Rotax original and non-resistive. The aviation resistor type that I have
>are made of metal and have a spring type catch at the bottom. The caps
>almost
>fully encloses the plug.
>
>Don Smythe
>Classic IV w/ 582
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NW Ohio fly-in |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Will do, Fred.
Lynn
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On Thursday, June 9, 2005, at 05:31 PM, Fred Shiple wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple
> <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
>
> looking forward to seeing you again. we had a nice
> pilot turnout last year. if you know ahead of time
> when you'll travel, let me know so i can be looking
> for you.
> fred
>> I'm gong to try to make it, Fred....walking, of
>> course...well, actually
>> driving. : )
>>
>> Lynn
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: VIxen Inquiry |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kevin Schlosser" <kschlosser@proformtool.com>
"P.S. One of the exciting side-benefits of my having posted my email address at
these various sites has been the rather substantial and numerous offers I am
receiving to help expatriate large sums of money from government restricted bank
accounts for which I am assured that I will be handsomely rewarded for having
helped these poor unfortunate African widows. Not to mention all the other
wonderful opportunities to have various body parts enlarged or strengthened. Almost
too much for this country boy. Ain't the internet something? "
Amen to that!
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Alaska 2005 begins... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cliffford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Well, the first two Alaska trip pilots are on their way...
I just bid bon voyage to Stan Specht and Jim Simmons as they departed the
Erie Airpark in CO, headed for Cameron Park. There is a high overcast with
steady rain as they leave. The mountains are obscured, so I guess they will
take the northern route through Wy.
Sure wish I going with them....
Cliff
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| Subject: | Re: Identification of Plug Caps |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: aerocon1@telusplanet.net
Good Morning Don
Thought I'd stick my nose in here for a minute. Don...you are on the right
track re: the two types of caps for the Rotax two-strokes..but you have the
info backwards... The burgundy caps (NGK part no LB50EZ) are actually
resistor caps rated nominally at 5000 ohms. (readings of 4700 to 5300 ohms are
normal). There is also a black cap with the same part number (automotive) that
is acceptable. The only difference between the burgandy and black caps ar the
color.
The metal caps made by Bosch regularly described as "non-resistor" are
actually rated at 1000 ohms.
Hope all is well with you and yours.....
regards
Bob Robertson
Light Engine Services Ltd.
Rotax Service Center
St. Albert, Alberta
Quoting AlbertaIV@aol.com:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 6/9/2005 9:03:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> rexjan@bigpond.com writes:
>
> Thanks for the info Rex - but how do I know if I have Resistor Caps -
> will
> they say on the wires or caps at all?
>
> Andrew
>
>
> Andrew,
> Another quick way to possibly determine what you have is, if the caps
> are "Burgundy" in color and make of some sort of plastic, then they are
> likely
> Rotax original and non-resistive. The aviation resistor type that I have
> are made of metal and have a spring type catch at the bottom. The caps
> almost
> fully encloses the plug.
>
> Don Smythe
> Classic IV w/ 582
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Model 2 leaf spring |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Napier, Mark" <Mark.Napier@sciatl.com>
Don't buy a spring from ACS, it won't fit. Been there, done that. Search
the archives for a previous post. I bought a spring that was made to fit
and it works great. It is bit stiffer than the original but still springy.
Only took two days to make and ship.
If you order be sure to tell them to get the holes exactly on centerline.
Mine were a little off.
I guess you could give the spring kit from Skystar a try but since flying
season is on now I wouldn't order unless they swear on a stack of Bibles
that they are in stock and ready to ship.
Cheers,
Mark Napier
Time: 06:36:19 PM PST US
From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Model 2 leaf spring
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
ACS has them available I think.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
Do not archive
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To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:35 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 2 leaf spring
--> Kitfox-List message posted by:
Dieflyer@aol.com<mailto:Dieflyer@aol.com>
Does anyone know where I can buy a tailwheel leaf spring that will work on
a
Model 2? I have a Maule 101 tailwheel, and the leaf is 1 1/4" wide.
Thanks.
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| Subject: | Identification of Plug Caps |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfox@gto.net
Bob, Thanks for clearing that matter up with resistor caps.
I value all information, but clearly the more accuarate is more
benificial to us all.
Thanks for setting the record straight again.
Also Bob, what do you think of using Iridium plugs over the BR8ES .
Are they worth the money? And will i get any gain?
Kirby
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: aerocon1@telusplanet.net
>
>
> Good Morning Don
>
> Thought I'd stick my nose in here for a minute. Don...you are on the
right
> track re: the two types of caps for the Rotax two-strokes..but you
have the
> info backwards... The burgundy caps (NGK part no LB50EZ) are
actually
> resistor caps rated nominally at 5000 ohms. (readings of 4700 to 5300
ohms are
> normal). There is also a black cap with the same part number
(automotive) that
> is acceptable. The only difference between the burgandy and black
caps ar the
> color.
> The metal caps made by Bosch regularly described as "non-resistor"
are
> actually rated at 1000 ohms.
>
> Hope all is well with you and yours.....
>
> regards
>
> Bob Robertson
> Light Engine Services Ltd.
> Rotax Service Center
> St. Albert, Alberta
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| Subject: | Series 7 flaperons |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rkstevens@verizon.net>
I saw in a post - I think from John McBean - wherein he mentioned that in upgrading
from the Series 5/6 flaperon symetrical shape to the Series 7 airfoil shape
that the roll rate is decreased. My question is simply this...By how much
does the roll rate decrease? I still have my Series 6 flaperons and haven't
yet installed either set. My memory says that the literature at the time I purchased
the upgrade to the Series 7 flaperons, that the new airfoiled shape of
the Series 7 flaperons yielded an 'increased roll rate' vs. what (I think) John
said is a decreased roll rate with the new flaperon design. The other benefits
(as I remember them) were decreased adverse yaw and a little added speed.
A little more speed would be nice, but if the new flaperons yield a slower roll
rate, I'll really have to think twice about putting 'em on.
Ron Stevens
Series 6
NSI Turbo - CAP 140
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| Subject: | Re: Series 7 flaperons |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cliffford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Ron,
I can verify that the new flaperons do indeed reduced the roll rate a
little. Adverse yaw is also slightly reduced. I don't think there is any
difference in speed. Stall speed may be lowered 1-2 mph, maybe.
cliff
> I saw in a post - I think from John McBean - wherein he mentioned that in
> upgrading from the Series 5/6 flaperon symetrical shape to the Series 7
> airfoil shape that the roll rate is decreased. My question is simply
> this...By how much does the roll rate decrease? I still have my Series 6
> flaperons and haven't yet installed either set. My memory says that the
> literature at the time I purchased the upgrade to the Series 7 flaperons,
> that the new airfoiled shape of the Series 7 flaperons yielded an
> 'increased roll rate' vs. what (I think) John said is a decreased roll
> rate with the new flaperon design. The other benefits (as I remember
> them) were decreased adverse yaw and a little added speed.
>
> A little more speed would be nice, but if the new flaperons yield a slower
> roll rate, I'll really have to think twice about putting 'em on.
>
> Ron Stevens
> Series 6
> NSI Turbo - CAP 140
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Identification of Plug Caps |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Don -
I think the burgundy plastic NGK caps have internal 5 ohm resistors. The metal
caps you describe are not, I think, resistor caps rather "shielded" non-resistor
caps. Checking for resistance as suggested by Rex is the sure-fire (pardon
the pun) method.
Marco Menezes
KF2 - N99KX Special Airworthiness Certificated issued 6/6/05!!!
AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 6/9/2005 9:03:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rexjan@bigpond.com writes:
Thanks for the info Rex - but how do I know if I have Resistor Caps -
will
they say on the wires or caps at all?
Andrew
Andrew,
Another quick way to possibly determine what you have is, if the caps
are "Burgundy" in color and make of some sort of plastic, then they are likely
Rotax original and non-resistive. The aviation resistor type that I have
are made of metal and have a spring type catch at the bottom. The caps almost
fully encloses the plug.
Don Smythe
Classic IV w/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: Alaska 2005 begins... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
Clifff, I just noticed that your name had grown an extra appendage...nice touch
John Kerr
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-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cliffford Begnaud"
>
>
> Well, the first two Alaska trip pilots are on their way...
> I just bid bon voyage to Stan Specht and Jim Simmons as they departed the
> Erie Airpark in CO, headed for Cameron Park. There is a high overcast with
> steady rain as they leave. The mountains are obscured, so I guess they will
> take the northern route through Wy.
> Sure wish I going with them....
> Cliff
>
>
>
>
>
>
Clifff, I just noticed that your name had grown an extra appendage...nice touch
John Kerr
do not archive
-------------- Original message --------------
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cliffford Begnaud"
<SHOELESS@BAREFOOTPILOT.COM>
Well, the first two Alaska trip pilots are on their way...
I just bid bon voyage to Stan Specht and Jim Simmons as they departed the
Erie Airpark in CO, headed for Cameron Park. There is a high overcast with
steady rain as they leave. The mountains are obscured, so I guess they will
take the northern route through Wy.
Sure wish I going with them....
Cliff
y Browse, Chat, FAQ,
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| Subject: | Re: Alaska 2005 begins... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
I wonder how that happened? Thanks for the heads up John.
Cliff
do not archive
>
> Clifff, I just noticed that your name had grown an extra appendage...nice
> touch
>
> John Kerr
> do not archive
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cliffford Begnaud"
>>
>>
>> Well, the first two Alaska trip pilots are on their way...
>> I just bid bon voyage to Stan Specht and Jim Simmons as they departed the
>> Erie Airpark in CO, headed for Cameron Park. There is a high overcast
>> with
>> steady rain as they leave. The mountains are obscured, so I guess they
>> will
>> take the northern route through Wy.
>> Sure wish I going with them....
>> Cliff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Clifff, I just noticed that your name had grown an extra appendage...nice
> touch
>
> John Kerr
> do not archive
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
> -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cliffford Begnaud"
> <SHOELESS@BAREFOOTPILOT.COM>
>
> Well, the first two Alaska trip pilots are on their way...
> I just bid bon voyage to Stan Specht and Jim Simmons as they departed the
> Erie Airpark in CO, headed for Cameron Park. There is a high overcast with
> steady rain as they leave. The mountains are obscured, so I guess they
> will
> take the northern route through Wy.
> Sure wish I going with them....
> Cliff
>
>
> y Browse, Chat, FAQ,
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Identification of Plug Caps |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 6/10/2005 11:22:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,
msm_9949@yahoo.com writes:
Don -
I think the burgundy plastic NGK caps have internal 5 ohm resistors. The
metal caps you describe are not, I think, resistor caps rather "shielded"
non-resistor caps. Checking for resistance as suggested by Rex is the sure-fire
(pardon the pun) method.
Marco Menezes
I must admit, I'm having a little difficulty with my memory since I bought
the things over 5 years ago. Been looking at the CPS book. The metal caps I
have are CPS part number 9007. The are described as "Metal Shielded Plug
Cap" and have 5K ohm resistance. Just above them in the catalog are the ones
that "LOOK" like my Rotax original. They are Black NGK "Ceramic" and have a 5K
ohm resistance (CPS part # 9005)
In my earlier post, I used the color Burgundy. The Rotax cap is referred
to as Magenta. OK, with all that said, I thought the original supplied Rotax
cap was a non-resistive cap (whatever the color).
Don Smythe
Classic IV w/ 582
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| Subject: | Annual inspections |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Maher <lilabner_45@yahoo.com>
It may be a silly question, but does the FAA require Experimental
aircraft like Kitfoxes, to have annual inspections like certificated
aircraft do?
If so, must the inspections be done by a licensed A&P or IA? Who else
can do them?
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| Subject: | Re: Annual inspections |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 6/10/2005 12:25:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lilabner_45@yahoo.com writes:
It may be a silly question, but does the FAA require Experimental
aircraft like Kitfoxes, to have annual inspections like certificated
aircraft do?
If so, must the inspections be done by a licensed A&P or IA? Who else
can do them?
Seems like I've been proven wrong on everything else today but, Yes, the FAA
requires an annual inspection. However, the annual is called a "Condition"
inspection. If you built the plane and hold a "Repairmans Certificate", you
can do the inspection yourself. The Rapairmans Cert is only good for you to
do the inspection on your own airplane and not someone else's (even if it was
a Kitfox). You apply for the certificate once you have completed the plane
and get the FAA inspection.
I think there might be some new rules out there that will allow you to
get a Repairman's Cert even if you didn't build the plane. But someone else
can comment on that.
If you purchase a Used Kitfox and you don't hold the Repairmans Cert,
then an A&P must sigh off the yearly "Condition Inspection". However, you can
do all the day to day maintenance and repairs.
Don Smythe
Classic IV w/ 582
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Chenoweth" <chenoweth@gwi.net>
Here are some questions I hope someone(s) on the list can help me with.
For the third or fourth time in four years my fuel shutoff has become so difficult
to turn that I've had to disassemble and clean it.
It's the one provided in the '95 firewall forward kit with the viton o-rings (which
I have replaced a couple of times).
.
I lubricate it with fuel lube but although it operates smoothly for the first weeks/months
it gradually becomes stiff. When I cleaned it today the gum (residue
from the fuel lube, I suppose) was not tan but a blue green.
A year or so ago John McBean suggested that I just leave it in the "On" position
and that's what I've been doing. I have the small red-handled shutoffs in the
lines from the wing tanks to the header and I used them for shutoffs. They
don't manifest the stiffness problem and work well.
As a further complication the o-ring that seals the intake (or output (mine is
currently oriented to seal the output)) valve port is getting chewed a bit by,
I presume, the lip of the port.
I've essentially "solved" the problem by not considering the valve to be a functioning
part of the fuel system but that isn't a particularly satisfactory solution.
Am I the only one with this problem?
Does anyone know why this is happening?
Is there a cure?
Bill in Maine
IV-1200
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
If its the one that looks like it belongs on a kerosene stove then its just
a POC. I replaced mine years ago with the Adiar. See sportflight upload. No
problems.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chenoweth
Subject: Kitfox-List: fuel shutoff
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Chenoweth" <chenoweth@gwi.net>
Here are some questions I hope someone(s) on the list can help me with.
For the third or fourth time in four years my fuel shutoff has become so
difficult to turn that I've had to disassemble and clean it.
It's the one provided in the '95 firewall forward kit with the viton o-rings
(which I have replaced a couple of times).
.
I lubricate it with fuel lube but although it operates smoothly for the
first weeks/months it gradually becomes stiff. When I cleaned it today the
gum (residue from the fuel lube, I suppose) was not tan but a blue green.
A year or so ago John McBean suggested that I just leave it in the "On"
position and that's what I've been doing. I have the small red-handled
shutoffs in the lines from the wing tanks to the header and I used them for
shutoffs. They don't manifest the stiffness problem and work well.
As a further complication the o-ring that seals the intake (or output (mine
is currently oriented to seal the output)) valve port is getting chewed a
bit by, I presume, the lip of the port.
I've essentially "solved" the problem by not considering the valve to be a
functioning part of the fuel system but that isn't a particularly
satisfactory solution.
Am I the only one with this problem?
Does anyone know why this is happening?
Is there a cure?
Bill in Maine
IV-1200
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| Subject: | Re: fuel shutoff |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 6/10/2005 6:58:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
chenoweth@gwi.net writes:
For the third or fourth time in four years my fuel shutoff has become so
difficult to turn that I've had to disassemble and clean it.
It's the one provided in the '95 firewall forward kit with the viton o-rings
(which I have replaced a couple of times).
I have the same vintage Kitfox. The valve I received in the kit had a
rotating cylinder with ports. Around the ports were "O" rings. This particular
valve was a topic of debate way back then. In at least one case, the "O"
rings tore and found themselves traveling down the fuel line causing fuel
stoppage. If we are talking about the same valve, simple get rid of it. I seem
to
remember the valve having a brown plastic cylinder with grooves cut for the
"O" rings. I took my valve into a group of Engineers that were working fuel
systems and their comment was, "They wouldn't put it on their lawnmower"
You can purchase a 90 degree ball valve at just about any place for $4.
These valves are ball and seat type construction and hold up well. I've had
one installed in my fox (purchased at Lowes) for 5+ years. It has never
leaked a drop nor has it ever been hard to operate. Just make sure the valve
is
rated "WOT" (marked on the handle). This stands for Water, Oil, Gas.
The problem isn't with the Viton "O" rings, it's the fact that the "O"
rings rotate with the cylinder each time you turn it. They wear and can be
cut.
That is, if we are talking about the same little valve and I bet we are.
Don Smythe
Classic IV w/ 582
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Back to the GSC prop pitch issue -
I climb out at about 6400 RPM on the 582 - and this is really hauling back
on the stick, climbing an easy 45 degrees at 45 mph. I can easily reach
6800 at WOT in level flight, so I think I should probably add just a little
bit more pitch to the prop - I don't need to be running that high...Any
comments or suggestions? :)
Andrew
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
I have a shaky tailwheel - when three-pointing her in, even with a full
stall, the tailwheel shakes like a *expletive deleted. She doesn't seem
loose, and the former owner said that on tar he always did wheel landings
because even at full stall three pointers, the speed was too fast for the
little wheel. He suggested I land on grass more often! Does anybody else
have tailwheel problems?
As a side-note, I got in my first real x-wind landings in the 'fox today.
Winds were shifty, right down to the deck, and what was a 5-8kt direct
Andrew
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| Subject: | Re: Tailwheel Shake |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com>
I had the same problem with my tail wheel, check the attachment points and make
sure they are tight, if the spring slides side to side , then you will have a
shake on the landing, once tight, it should be ok.
Ray
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From: Andrew Matthaey<mailto:spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:45 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tailwheel Shake
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com<mailto:spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>>
I have a shaky tailwheel - when three-pointing her in, even with a full
stall, the tailwheel shakes like a *expletive deleted. She doesn't seem
loose, and the former owner said that on tar he always did wheel landings
because even at full stall three pointers, the speed was too fast for the
little wheel. He suggested I land on grass more often! Does anybody else
have tailwheel problems?
As a side-note, I got in my first real x-wind landings in the 'fox today.
Winds were shifty, right down to the deck, and what was a 5-8kt direct
Andrew
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| Subject: | Re: Tailwheel Shake |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
the "shopping cart shimmy" can be due to the veritcal pivot not being vertical...improper
rig, maybe. most likely it is because you are holding back stick at
speed forcing the tail down and bending the spring. see if easing the stick
slightly doesn't help...assuming the vertical is vertical (smiling)
John Kerr
IV Classic
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey"
>
>
> I have a shaky tailwheel - when three-pointing her in, even with a full
> stall, the tailwheel shakes like a *expletive deleted. She doesn't seem
> loose, and the former owner said that on tar he always did wheel landings
> because even at full stall three pointers, the speed was too fast for the
> little wheel. He suggested I land on grass more often! Does anybody else
> have tailwheel problems?
>
> As a side-note, I got in my first real x-wind landings in the 'fox today.
> Winds were shifty, right down to the deck, and what was a 5-8kt direct
>
> Andrew
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
the "shopping cart shimmy" can be due to the veritcal pivot not being vertical...improper
rig, maybe. most likely it is because you are holding back stick at
speed forcing the tail down and bending the spring. see if easing the stick slightly
doesn't help...assuming the vertical is vertical (smiling)
John Kerr
IV Classic
-------------- Original message --------------
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey"
<SPAGHETTIOHEAD@HOTMAIL.COM>
I have a shaky tailwheel - when three-pointing her in, even with a full
stall, the tailwheel shakes like a *expletive deleted. She doesn't seem
loose, and the former owner said that on tar he always did wheel landings
because even at full stall three pointers, the speed was too fast for the
little wheel. He suggested I land on grass more often! Does anybody else
have tailwheel problems?
As a side-note, I got in my first real x-wind landings in the 'fox today.
Winds were shifty, right down to the deck, and what was a 5-8kt direct
Andrew
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| Subject: | 3rd Pilot almost on way |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
Clint Bazzill moved his aircraft from Half Moon Bay to San Carlos. Had a 2
hour window to get the airplane out of the fog on coast. Will leave for
Cameron park Saturday 8am. Should be fog free on other side of the hill.
Clint
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| Subject: | Newbie questions... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Third question, what is the typical empty weights of these Series 5
birds? I found an article in Experimenter back around 2002 with a
beautiful Vixen in it, but it said the empty weight was something like
960 or so...now it had a O-290, which is a serious heavyweight of an
engine...so I wondered what was more average...
a few bolts, glue on
the fabric, spray paint, and fly...right??? ;-)
Jeremy Casey
Future Kitfox builder...
jeremy@kilocharlie.us
www.kilocharlie.us
Good attitude!
One number for question 3. My Series 5 with a Series 7 firewall forward and
912S came in at 776 lb. This is with Grove gear and big heavy tires.
Let me know if you get an average.
Randy - N10NH
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| Subject: | Re: 3rd Pilot almost on way |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
Hi Clint,
You'll beat me by about 2 hours.
Maybe more if clouds are low!
Bruce
--
> Clint Bazzill moved his aircraft from Half Moon Bay to San Carlos. Had a
> 2
> hour window to get the airplane out of the fog on coast. Will leave for
> Cameron park Saturday 8am. Should be fog free on other side of the hill.
> Clint
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