Today's Message Index:
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1. 06:07 AM - lift strut fairings, Model IV (Lynn Matteson)
2. 06:16 AM - Tragic crash (Herbert)
3. 06:40 AM - S6 Speeds (Jay Carter)
4. 07:18 AM - Re: Tragic crash (Lowell Fitt)
5. 08:57 AM - Re: Tragic crash (Bruce Harrington)
6. 08:59 AM - Re: Tragic crash (jdmcbean)
7. 09:48 AM - Re: Tragic crash (Jose M. Toro)
8. 10:16 AM - Re: Tragic crash (Michel Verheughe)
9. 10:36 AM - Re: [Off-topic] My trip to Belgium (Michel Verheughe)
10. 10:46 AM - Re: Tragic crash (Don Smythe)
11. 10:46 AM - Re: Tragic crash (Don Pearsall)
12. 10:59 AM - Re: Tragic crash (Cory Emberson)
13. 11:06 AM - Re: lift strut fairings, Model IV (flier)
14. 12:05 PM - Video... (Jeremy Casey)
15. 12:42 PM - Re: lift strut fairings, Model IV (Lynn Matteson)
16. 01:28 PM - Re: lift strut fairings, Model IV (flier)
17. 02:49 PM - Re: Video... (Don Pearsall)
18. 04:25 PM - Re: Video... (Lowell Fitt)
19. 05:39 PM - Johnson Creek (Lowell Fitt)
20. 06:22 PM - Re: Video... (David Lumgair)
21. 07:04 PM - Re: Video... (Allan Aaron)
22. 08:08 PM - Re: S6 Speeds (Vic Jacko)
23. 10:07 PM - Re: Garmin GPS 295 what do you want for it? (Rick)
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| Subject: | lift strut fairings, Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Regarding the plastic lift strut fairings, did you folks epoxy them on?
Cover with fabric? Use the aluminum cuffs from Skystar? No instructions
came with my fourth-hand kit, so I'm looking for some help. I can
probably forge ahead blindly, but having some tips would help, I'm sure.
Lynn
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Herbert" <hmdoud@ev1.net>
I imagine that everyone has heard of his tragic Ultr-light plane crash and death
of John Walton, muti-billioaire son of the founder of Walmart.
Listening to the new last night, the newscaster reported that his was a folding
wing plane and that the wing folded up shortly after his take off, also shearing
off the tail section of the plane.
It brings to mind two of the most popular folding wing aircraft........The Kolb,
which is an Ultralight and the Kitfox, which is an Experimental and not, as
reported, an Ultralight.
Walton was reported to have been an experienced pilot and that the crash was not
going to be investigated by the FAA, in that the plane was not a licensed aircraft.
Does anyone have any particulars concerning this tragedy?
Herb
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Carter" <valley361@centurytel.net>
Anyone one the list with Lycoming power ever noted the speed required to lift
the tail on takeoff? I suspect it may be close to liftoff and flying speed.
Jay C.
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| Subject: | Re: Tragic crash |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Herbert, go to:
http://aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=b8e97566-d7cf-410b-ac17-743c463ddfa2 and read the past two days reports. Lowell> ----- Original Message -----> From: "Herbert" <hmdoud@ev1.net>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 6:23 AM> Subject: Kitfox-List: Tragic crash>>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Herbert" <hmdoud@ev1.net>>>>> I imagine that everyone has heard of his tragic Ultr-light plane crashand death>> of John Walton, muti-billioaire son of the founder of Walmart.>>>> Listening to the new last night, the newscaster reported that his was afolding wing plane and that the wing folded up shortly after his take off,also shearing off the tail section of the plane.>>>> It brings to mind two of the most popular folding wingaircraft........The Kolb, which is an Ultralight and the Kitfox, which is anExperimental and not, as reported, an Ultralight.>>>>>> Walton was reported to have been an experienced pilot and that the crashwas not going to
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| Subject: | Re: Tragic crash |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
John Walton was flying a CGS Hawk.
Old UL design that's still in production.
bh
> I imagine that everyone has heard of his tragic Ultr-light plane crash and
> death
> of John Walton, muti-billioaire son of the founder of Walmart.
>
> Listening to the new last night, the newscaster reported that his was a
> folding wing plane and that the wing folded up shortly after his take off,
> also shearing off the tail section of the plane.
>
> It brings to mind two of the most popular folding wing aircraft........The
> Kolb, which is an Ultralight and the Kitfox, which is an Experimental and
> not, as reported, an Ultralight.
>
>
> Walton was reported to have been an experienced pilot and that the crash
> was not going to be investigated by the FAA, in that the plane was not a
> licensed aircraft.
>
> Does anyone have any particulars concerning this tragedy?
>
> Herb
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Wal-Mart Heir Killed In Wyoming Crash
John Walton, 58, a multi-billionaire and heir to the Wal-Mart fortune, died
Monday afternoon when the small aircraft he was flying crashed in a field of
sagebrush in Grand Teton National Park, in Wyoming, shortly after takeoff
from Jackson Hole Airport. He was alone in the aircraft. A witness told park
rangers that the aircraft circled, then dived steeply to the ground. The
location was in line with an approach for landing. Investigator Aaron Sauer
from the NTSB regional office in Denver was dispatched to the scene on
Tuesday, and he determined that the aircraft was a CGS Hawk Arrow, an
experimental, kitbuilt airplane. "Consequently, the NTSB will conduct a
typical field investigation of this accident," the NTSB said. Early reports
had identified the aircraft as an ultralight, and said only the National
Park Service would investigate. Yesterday, The Jackson Hole News reported
that Walton had recently bought the aircraft in Virginia, and set out to fly
it cross-country to Wyoming. Along the way, the landing gear was damaged in
a hard landing, and Walton hauled the Hawk home on a trailer. The flight on
Monday was said to be the first following repairs to the aircraft.
Dr. Brent Blue, an aviation medical examiner in Jackson Hole, told AVweb
yesterday that Walton was "a very experienced and a very careful pilot. He
was current in his Citation and flew it regularly. He was a crop-duster
earlier in his life in California ... Truly a great guy. He will be missed
by his friends in this community." Forbes Magazine listed Walton in March as
the 11th richest man in the world, with a net worth of $18.2 billion. He sat
on the board of directors of the Wal-Mart corporation, and was an active
board member of the Walton Family Foundation. Walton served in the U.S. Army
Green Berets as a medic during the Vietnam War, and was awarded the Silver
Star. He leaves a wife and son.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Herbert
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tragic crash
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Herbert" <hmdoud@ev1.net>
I imagine that everyone has heard of his tragic Ultr-light plane crash and
death
of John Walton, muti-billioaire son of the founder of Walmart.
Listening to the new last night, the newscaster reported that his was a
folding wing plane and that the wing folded up shortly after his take off,
also shearing off the tail section of the plane.
It brings to mind two of the most popular folding wing aircraft........The
Kolb, which is an Ultralight and the Kitfox, which is an Experimental and
not, as reported, an Ultralight.
Walton was reported to have been an experienced pilot and that the crash was
not going to be investigated by the FAA, in that the plane was not a
licensed aircraft.
Does anyone have any particulars concerning this tragedy?
Herb
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| Subject: | Re: Tragic crash |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
CGS Hawks do not have folding wings.
--- Bruce Harrington <sonex321@msn.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce
> Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
>
> John Walton was flying a CGS Hawk.
> Old UL design that's still in production.
> bh
>
> > I imagine that everyone has heard of his tragic
> Ultr-light plane crash and
> > death
> > of John Walton, muti-billioaire son of the founder
> of Walmart.
> >
> > Listening to the new last night, the newscaster
> reported that his was a
> > folding wing plane and that the wing folded up
> shortly after his take off,
> > also shearing off the tail section of the plane.
> >
> > It brings to mind two of the most popular folding
> wing aircraft........The
> > Kolb, which is an Ultralight and the Kitfox, which
> is an Experimental and
> > not, as reported, an Ultralight.
> >
> >
> > Walton was reported to have been an experienced
> pilot and that the crash
> > was not going to be investigated by the FAA, in
> that the plane was not a
> > licensed aircraft.
> >
> > Does anyone have any particulars concerning this
> tragedy?
> >
> > Herb
>
>
>
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Jose M. Toro, P.E.
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"A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
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| Subject: | Re: Tragic crash |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Herbert wrote:
> Listening to the new last night, the newscaster reported that his was a folding
wing plane
> and that the wing folded up shortly after his take off, also shearing off the
tail section
> of the plane.
Yesterday, we had also a microlight crash, here in Norway. Actually, up north,
where Torgeir lives. A Savannah microlight took off and crashed shortly after,
when a wing came loose, killing both the pilot and his passenger.
Incidentally, the Savannah has flaperons, like the Kitfox. This was our first
microlight fatal accident in the past three years, if I remember correctly.
How can a wing come loose? The same happened a few years ago, at my airfield,
with a Jora microlight. Does anyone know of a Kitfox that has lost a wing?
Should we check the bolts fastening our shrouds?
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: [Off-topic] My trip to Belgium |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Mdkitfox@aol.com wrote:
> Thanks for sharing your story and pictures with us. Well done! It's very
> rewarding to have accomplished your flight with hardly a problem. Way to go!
Thank you, Rick, Torgeir, Don and Ron. The funny thing is that I don't feel I
did anything special. Only I flew a bit longer than usual. But isn't that what
we want? Fly and fly? In any case, I am only more in love with my plane and
flying. Still so much to experience!
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Tragic crash |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
That reported "hard" landing could have cracked the fuselage connect point
for the wing struts. Therefore the fixed wing could have become a folding
wing. We will probably never know. Just last week we had an ultralight
crash about 2 miles from my house. An eye witness reported one wing folded
up in flight. The pilot (a member of a local ultralight club) was killed.
Do Not Archive
Don Smythe
Classic IV W/ 582
----- Original Message -----
> CGS Hawks do not have folding wings.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
I know the designer/owner of the CGS Hawk, Chuck Slusarczyk. The plane looks
like an ultralight, but uses all AN type hardware and is a very safe plane.
This model was the two place version. Walton built the plane himself, with
help from a dealer.
Chuck said that the plane had dropped in from about 30' and damaged the
landing gear, and he had sent Walton parts to fix it. The hard landing could
have been the cause of the subsequent crash, or it could have been medical.
An autopsy might tell.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tragic crash
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Herbert wrote:
> Listening to the new last night, the newscaster reported that his was a
folding wing plane
> and that the wing folded up shortly after his take off, also shearing off
the tail section
> of the plane.
Yesterday, we had also a microlight crash, here in Norway. Actually, up
north,
where Torgeir lives. A Savannah microlight took off and crashed shortly
after,
when a wing came loose, killing both the pilot and his passenger.
Incidentally, the Savannah has flaperons, like the Kitfox. This was our
first
microlight fatal accident in the past three years, if I remember correctly.
How can a wing come loose? The same happened a few years ago, at my
airfield,
with a Jora microlight. Does anyone know of a Kitfox that has lost a wing?
Should we check the bolts fastening our shrouds?
Cheers,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
I know Chuck as well, and what a good human being he is. Thanks for the
extra information.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Pearsall
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Tragic crash
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
I know the designer/owner of the CGS Hawk, Chuck Slusarczyk. The plane looks
like an ultralight, but uses all AN type hardware and is a very safe plane.
This model was the two place version. Walton built the plane himself, with
help from a dealer.
Chuck said that the plane had dropped in from about 30' and damaged the
landing gear, and he had sent Walton parts to fix it. The hard landing could
have been the cause of the subsequent crash, or it could have been medical.
An autopsy might tell.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tragic crash
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Herbert wrote:
> Listening to the new last night, the newscaster reported that his was a
folding wing plane
> and that the wing folded up shortly after his take off, also shearing off
the tail section
> of the plane.
Yesterday, we had also a microlight crash, here in Norway. Actually, up
north,
where Torgeir lives. A Savannah microlight took off and crashed shortly
after,
when a wing came loose, killing both the pilot and his passenger.
Incidentally, the Savannah has flaperons, like the Kitfox. This was our
first
microlight fatal accident in the past three years, if I remember correctly.
How can a wing come loose? The same happened a few years ago, at my
airfield,
with a Jora microlight. Does anyone know of a Kitfox that has lost a wing?
Should we check the bolts fastening our shrouds?
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: lift strut fairings, Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
Structural epoxied them on. Made my own cuffs
from .016 aluminum and lightweight filler. Fabric
covered them so they could be painted with the same
Polytone I used on the rest of the plane.
Regards,
Ted
--- Original Message ---
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: lift strut fairings, Model IV
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
<lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
>Regarding the plastic lift strut fairings, did you
folks epoxy them on?
>Cover with fabric? Use the aluminum cuffs from
Skystar? No instructions
>came with my fourth-hand kit, so I'm looking for
some help. I can
>probably forge ahead blindly, but having some tips
would help, I'm sure.
>
>Lynn
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
Thought I'd post a link to a video I shot from my last plane. (RANS S7)
just some fun flying one day going to get the proverbial $100
hamburger.(actually more like $24 hamburger with a 912's fuel
consumption.but who's counting ;-)
Main website.
http://www.kilocharlie.us/Flying.htm
Video link.
http://www.kilocharlie.us/Movie%20page.htm
A couple of pics of the trip to pick up the Series 5 kit I just bought.
http://www.kilocharlie.us/KiloCharlie%20Kitfox%20Home.htm
Jeremy Casey
KiloCharlie Drafting, Inc.
jeremy@kilocharlie.us
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| Subject: | Re: lift strut fairings, Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Thanks, Ted...I've cut mine, and have the parts in place, but wanted to
see of there were any tips, hints, etc. that I might have overlooked.
You did yours like I am intending to do mine. The old '94 builder's
manual doesn't give much help in this regard, and the newer manual for
the Classic IV doesn't mention the fairing kit...that I've found,
anyway. I've got some instructions lined up thanks to a lister, and
will hold off 'til they get here.
Lynn
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On Thursday, June 30, 2005, at 03:06 PM, flier wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Structural epoxied them on. Made my own cuffs
> from .016 aluminum and lightweight filler. Fabric
> covered them so they could be painted with the same
> Polytone I used on the rest of the plane.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ted
> --- Original Message ---
> From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: lift strut fairings, Model IV
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
> <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>>
>> Regarding the plastic lift strut fairings, did you
> folks epoxy them on?
>> Cover with fabric? Use the aluminum cuffs from
> Skystar? No instructions
>> came with my fourth-hand kit, so I'm looking for
> some help. I can
>> probably forge ahead blindly, but having some tips
> would help, I'm sure.
>>
>> Lynn
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: lift strut fairings, Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
I don't think there's anything special about them.
Just make sure you get them aligned with the airflow
as I'm sure they have a tendency to act like mini-
ailerons if they get misaligned when you glue them!
With the gap in front and behind the strut in the PVC
fairing, one thing I did was to put drainholes at the
bottom of the PVC to allow any condensation a place
to go.
Regards,
Ted
--- Original Message ---
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: lift strut fairings, Model
IV
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
<lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
>Thanks, Ted...I've cut mine, and have the parts in
place, but wanted to
>see of there were any tips, hints, etc. that I might
have overlooked.
>You did yours like I am intending to do mine. The
old '94 builder's
>manual doesn't give much help in this regard, and
the newer manual for
>the Classic IV doesn't mention the fairing
kit...that I've found,
>anyway. I've got some instructions lined up thanks
to a lister, and
>will hold off 'til they get here.
>Lynn
>do not archive
>On Thursday, June 30, 2005, at 03:06 PM, flier
wrote:
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier"
<FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
>>
>> Structural epoxied them on. Made my own cuffs
>> from .016 aluminum and lightweight filler. Fabric
>> covered them so they could be painted with the same
>> Polytone I used on the rest of the plane.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ted
>> --- Original Message ---
>> From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Kitfox-List: lift strut fairings, Model IV
>>
>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
>> <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>>>
>>> Regarding the plastic lift strut fairings, did you
>> folks epoxy them on?
>>> Cover with fabric? Use the aluminum cuffs from
>> Skystar? No instructions
>>> came with my fourth-hand kit, so I'm looking for
>> some help. I can
>>> probably forge ahead blindly, but having some tips
>> would help, I'm sure.
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>>
>>>
>>> _-
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
That was a WAYYY cool video Jeremy! It looks like you were having lots of
fun, including a very good loop. For a second there, it looked like you were
going to land on that lake, when I KNOW you took off on grass.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Casey
Subject: Kitfox-List: Video...
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
Thought I'd post a link to a video I shot from my last plane. (RANS S7)
just some fun flying one day going to get the proverbial $100
hamburger.(actually more like $24 hamburger with a 912's fuel
consumption.but who's counting ;-)
Main website.
http://www.kilocharlie.us/Flying.htm
Video link.
http://www.kilocharlie.us/Movie%20page.htm
A couple of pics of the trip to pick up the Series 5 kit I just bought.
http://www.kilocharlie.us/KiloCharlie%20Kitfox%20Home.htm
Jeremy Casey
KiloCharlie Drafting, Inc.
jeremy@kilocharlie.us
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Jeremy, I enjoyed the video, Thanks for posting the link.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Video...
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
>
> Thought I'd post a link to a video I shot from my last plane. (RANS S7)
> just some fun flying one day going to get the proverbial $100
> hamburger.(actually more like $24 hamburger with a 912's fuel
> consumption.but who's counting ;-)
>
> Main website.
> http://www.kilocharlie.us/Flying.htm
>
> Video link.
> http://www.kilocharlie.us/Movie%20page.htm
>
> A couple of pics of the trip to pick up the Series 5 kit I just bought.
> http://www.kilocharlie.us/KiloCharlie%20Kitfox%20Home.htm
>
>
> Jeremy Casey
> KiloCharlie Drafting, Inc.
> jeremy@kilocharlie.us
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Found this on the web this morning after a heads-up from one of the guys we
fly with.
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=20050628X00890&ntsbno=SEA05CA116&akey=1
When I reported our trip to Idaho, landing at Johnson Creek, among other
locations, I mentioned the trouble I had getting my Model IV onto the
runway. These guys were there when we landed and frankly, I was the
embarrassed one, as I had provided the afternoon's entertainment for all who
had arrived earlier. That evening, sitting around a campfire, we had an
interesting conversation with them - hearing their opinions about Sport
Pilot, quick build options, builder assist programs and back country
flying.
These guys met at Johnson Creek for the weekend, one in from Montana - the
Taylorcraft - and one in from Boise in an open cockpit biplane - I can't
remember what type, however not personally built, though he had built an
early model Avid. Monday morning, because of the sub-freezing temps, 21,
they elected to leave the open cockpit biplane on the ground and after
getting the icicles melted off the beautifully restored Tayorcraft, they
flew to Big Creek for breakfast.
Now, from my earlier perspective, Big Creek would be a greater challenge
than Johnson Creek, because of the large hill between downwind and final
which obscured the runway from view until well into the base leg and this
again in the bottom of a deep, though wider canyon. They were already on
the ground when we got there and we found our group to be third in line for
food after group number two - the flight of seven, composed of Supercubs and
Mauls.
After eating, the two in the Taylorcraft returned to Johnson Creek which
was their out of town base and we went off to Elk City via Dixie Town,
hoping to get warm.
I always thought of Johnson Creek as a pretty mild back country airport.
The strip is 3400 feet long and 150 feet wide - gorgeous grass. The air
currents at the approach to 17, on those days however, made final an
interesting experience for both of us, as losing altitude after clearing the
trees was a real challenge. My three go arounds were initiated well above
3-5 ft - more like 200 ft - and I think our Kitfoxes perform a bit better
than a Taylorcraft especially when loaded to near gross weight - I did some
serious slipping to get down too.
Is there something to learn here? I think so.
Lowell
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Lumgair" <lumgair@verizon.net>
Anyone ever seen the video of kids blowing up mailboxes in Texas? I bet
their friends thought it was really cool too until the police got a copy.
These days we really need to be more careful what kind of image we portray
to the public. I know some of you are thinking stick in the mud right now
but seriously. I too agree the video is awesome and I would have loved to
ride along but with all the negative perceptions around about "GA" should we
really be posting this for the general public to see? I personally love it
when a friend makes a low pass on me while I'm out in the yard - I live in a
rural area similar to that in the video - but not everyone feels this way
and I have experienced this first hand since the 150 "terrorized"
Washington. Just be careful my friends.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Video...
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
>
> Thought I'd post a link to a video I shot from my last plane. (RANS S7)
> just some fun flying one day going to get the proverbial $100
> hamburger.(actually more like $24 hamburger with a 912's fuel
> consumption.but who's counting ;-)
>
> Main website.
> http://www.kilocharlie.us/Flying.htm
>
> Video link.
> http://www.kilocharlie.us/Movie%20page.htm
>
> A couple of pics of the trip to pick up the Series 5 kit I just bought.
> http://www.kilocharlie.us/KiloCharlie%20Kitfox%20Home.htm
>
>
> Jeremy Casey
> KiloCharlie Drafting, Inc.
> jeremy@kilocharlie.us
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Aaron" <aaaron@tvp.com.au>
Jeremy
Fantastic video - really enjoyed it and admire your editing skills as
well. Can you tell me about your camera setup?
Allan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Casey
Subject: Kitfox-List: Video...
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
Jay, my experience with N-88VJ series 5TD with Lyc 0-235 allowed the tail
to rise off the ground at a speed as low as 20 mph with no baggage and solo.
Experimenting with moving the CG to it's most forward position allowed the
tail to lift at stand still with locked brakes.
I feel your CG location will dictate in part the tail-up speed.
You may want to ask Cliff B. what he is experiencing with the airplane as
he now owns it.
Vic
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Carter" <valley361@centurytel.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: S6 Speeds
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Carter" <valley361@centurytel.net>
>
> Anyone one the list with Lycoming power ever noted the speed required
> to lift the tail on takeoff? I suspect it may be close to liftoff and
> flying speed.
>
> Jay C.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Garmin GPS 295 what do you want for it? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Would like to get 800 or just keep it, not in a hurry to sell but cant
justify having both. Wife cant justify any thing, oh well.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Aerobatics@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Garmin GPS 295 what do you want for it?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com
:-)
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