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1. 05:14 AM - Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? (Fred Shiple)
2. 05:54 AM - Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? (Paul Seehafer)
3. 06:07 AM - Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? (Paul Seehafer)
4. 06:28 AM - Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? (flier)
5. 06:49 AM - Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? (Floran Higgins)
6. 09:36 AM - Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? (jdmcbean)
7. 10:05 AM - Tyres ... again (Michel Verheughe)
8. 10:51 AM - Re: Video... (Grant Fluent)
9. 11:30 AM - Re: Tyres ... again (Jose M. Toro)
10. 11:52 AM - Re: Tyres ... again (Torgeir Mortensen)
11. 12:27 PM - Re: Muffler, was: Tyres ... again (Jose M. Toro)
12. 12:37 PM - Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? (Donna and Roger McConnell)
13. 01:14 PM - Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? ()
14. 02:20 PM - Re: Muffler, was: Tyres ... again (Torgeir Mortensen)
15. 03:03 PM - Brake line bleeding (Donna and Roger McConnell)
16. 03:29 PM - Re: Video... (KITFOXZ@aol.com)
17. 03:30 PM - Re: Brake line bleeding ()
18. 03:34 PM - Re: Brake line bleeding (Cudnohufsky's)
19. 04:40 PM - Re: Brake line bleeding (Donna and Roger McConnell)
20. 06:12 PM - Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? (Lowell Fitt)
21. 07:05 PM - Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? (Lowell Fitt)
22. 07:35 PM - Re: Video... (Lowell Fitt)
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| Subject: | Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
Paul,
While talking to the people at Lockwood 3 months ago
regarding the Evans coolant, I was told they only use
it in 912/912S applications that see water temps over
230 degrees.
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Ted,
I know waterless coolant works better to cool things, but is there any
reason one can't use conventional coolant? I can see myself in Canada or
Alaska one day needing coolant and finding no waterless coolant anywhere,
while conventional coolant is everywhere. Plus, I heard these 912's tend to
run cold. So do we really need Evans?
My engine has run previously with coolant in it, but it has been drained out
for almost 2 years. I suppose it would still need to be flushed if I end up
using Evan's.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Paul,
>
> I'm running Evan's in my 912 and my Nieuport's Sube
> and like it. If you haven't put any coolant in your
> engine yet you could get by with a gallon of
> coolant. If you have, you'll also need a gallon of
> flush. You can't use any water from then on.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ted
>
> --- Original Message ---
> From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer"
> <av8rps@tznet.com>
>>
>>All,
>>
>>I'm getting ready to run my 912ul on my model IV, so
> I went and read all of
>>that (very confusing) stuff on the www.rotax-
> owners.com site for the latest
>>and greatest on coolants and oils, plus I searched
> the kitfox list for info.
>>But I haven't found anything real current. And
> seeing how this stuff seems
>>to be continually changing, I thought I had better
> ask all of you before
>>putting the wrong stuff in my engine.
>>
>>So, my questions are;
>>
>>- Has there been any updated information on coolant
> requirements?
>>
>>- Is Evans Waterless coolant still the way to go?
>>
>>- How much coolant will I need to buy for my 912ul
> Model IV (no heater core)
>>
>>- Is it ok to use standard coolant in the 912 yet?
> (I tend to go places
>>that are pretty far off the beaten path. At times
> regular coolant can be
>>hard enough to find, much less Waterless EVANs NPG)
>>
>>- What is the best oil to run?
>>
>>- And last but not least, I heard I have to bleed
> the oil and coolant
>>systems of trapped air prior to starting the
> engine. Is this true? And how
>>does one do it if it is?
>>
>>Suggestions? Ideas? Advice?
>>
>>Paul Seehafer
>>Central Wisconsin
>>Model IV-1200 912ul on Aerocet Amphibs
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Lowell,
What coolant have you been using? Does your 912 run hot? How much coolant
does your engine take when you change it? Do you have to "vent" the cooling
system like you did the oil when changing it?
And thanks for the info on the oil. But I'm confused with oil change
procedures? I hope this doesn't sound stupid, but do you drain the oil tank
as well as the crankcase every time you change oil? The fitting on my tank
is a real bear to get at. But it looks like if I don't I will have a good
share of the oil in the tank yet. If so I'm thinking about installing one
of those easy open valves that are available. But I'm not sure there is
room up there for it? How do you do yours? Has anyone tried an extended
line with a valve at the end like they use in the marine industry. Sure
would make life easier if that tank has to be drained every change.
Anyone using the full synthetic oils? I had a bad experience with synthetic
in a car once years ago, and have been leary of it ever since. But if it
truly is better for the engine today, I would use it. I would imagine I
could extend my oil change intervals (here in wisconsin you fly all you can
while the weather holds out :-) Times a wastin' when you have to change
your oil...
Paul Seehafer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Hi, Paul,
>
> I have still not installed the Evans coolant, though I plan to eventually.
> I haven't had to add coolant since learning that the bottle doesn't like
> to
> be very full - 1/2" in my airplane when cold. It always stays the same. I
> change it every two years.
>
> I use the Pennzoil Motorcycle Motor oil. It is hard to find locally, but
> I
> found it online and bought two cases. About the oil. Rotax tests all the
> oil they recommend and the latest change in the recommendations was due to
> the EPA outlawing an additive that was used to prevent foaming in the
> return
> lines and oil tank. The new recommended oils meet that requirement. The
> re-marked dipstick was also for the oil foaming issue. It was found that
> under certain contitions, the tank will have insufficient liquid oil and
> the
> pump can suck air. This fro Eric Tucker last year at the Oshkosh Rotax
> Forum
>
> When charging my oil lines after an oil change - Rotax calls it
> "venting" -
> I unhook the return line -crank case banjo fitting on the engine to tank -
> and add a short piece of tubing to it that is fed to a container in case
> any
> oil will be burped from the crank case. I plug it's fitting on the oil
> tank
> with a rubber stopper. Then I pressurize the tank using compressed air
> through a pressure regulator that is attached to the oil tank vent line.
> This wil force oil down the pump feed line so the pump won't have to suck
> the oil from the tank - it won't if there is air in the line. Make sure
> the
> oil tank cap is on. I will hand prop the engine several blades then run
> the
> starter until I see the pressure rise. It helps to remove one plug from
> each cylinder to take the load off the bearings etc.
>
> Hope this is helpful.
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm getting ready to run my 912ul on my model IV, so I went and read all
>> of
>> that (very confusing) stuff on the www.rotax-owners.com site for the
>> latest
>> and greatest on coolants and oils, plus I searched the kitfox list for
>> info.
>> But I haven't found anything real current. And seeing how this stuff
>> seems
>> to be continually changing, I thought I had better ask all of you before
>> putting the wrong stuff in my engine.
>>
>> So, my questions are;
>>
>> - Has there been any updated information on coolant requirements?
>>
>> - Is Evans Waterless coolant still the way to go?
>>
>> - How much coolant will I need to buy for my 912ul Model IV (no heater
>> core)
>>
>> - Is it ok to use standard coolant in the 912 yet? (I tend to go places
>> that are pretty far off the beaten path. At times regular coolant can be
>> hard enough to find, much less Waterless EVANs NPG)
>>
>> - What is the best oil to run?
>>
>> - And last but not least, I heard I have to bleed the oil and coolant
>> systems of trapped air prior to starting the engine. Is this true? And
>> how
>> does one do it if it is?
>>
>> Suggestions? Ideas? Advice?
>>
>> Paul Seehafer
>> Central Wisconsin
>> Model IV-1200 912ul on Aerocet Amphibs
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
Actually, with Evans the coolant temp runs a little
higher.
Evans is recommended due to the hotspots that can
develop in the 912 heads when water is used in the
coolant. No water so the boiling temp is way
higher. That's why it's used in performance / racing
applications.
I've always run 100% antifreeze as here in Houston
hotspots are an issue. I changed to Evans as 100%
antifreeze can gel over time but Evans won't. There
was a good article in one of the mags (Sport aviation
or Experimenter) and Evans was recommended in the
article.
Just my choice...
Regards,
Ted
--- Original Message ---
From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and
oil?
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer"
<av8rps@tznet.com>
>
>Lowell,
>
>What coolant have you been using? Does your 912 run
hot? How much coolant
>does your engine take when you change it? Do you
have to "vent" the cooling
>system like you did the oil when changing it?
>
>And thanks for the info on the oil. But I'm
confused with oil change
>procedures? I hope this doesn't sound stupid, but
do you drain the oil tank
>as well as the crankcase every time you change oil?
The fitting on my tank
>is a real bear to get at. But it looks like if I
don't I will have a good
>share of the oil in the tank yet. If so I'm
thinking about installing one
>of those easy open valves that are available. But
I'm not sure there is
>room up there for it? How do you do yours? Has
anyone tried an extended
>line with a valve at the end like they use in the
marine industry. Sure
>would make life easier if that tank has to be
drained every change.
>
>Anyone using the full synthetic oils? I had a bad
experience with synthetic
>in a car once years ago, and have been leary of it
ever since. But if it
>truly is better for the engine today, I would use
it. I would imagine I
>could extend my oil change intervals (here in
wisconsin you fly all you can
>while the weather holds out :-) Times a wastin'
when you have to change
>your oil...
>
>Paul Seehafer
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and
oil?
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt"
<lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>>
>> Hi, Paul,
>>
>> I have still not installed the Evans coolant,
though I plan to eventually.
>> I haven't had to add coolant since learning that
the bottle doesn't like
>> to
>> be very full - 1/2" in my airplane when cold. It
always stays the same. I
>> change it every two years.
>>
>> I use the Pennzoil Motorcycle Motor oil. It is
hard to find locally, but
>> I
>> found it online and bought two cases. About the
oil. Rotax tests all the
>> oil they recommend and the latest change in the
recommendations was due to
>> the EPA outlawing an additive that was used to
prevent foaming in the
>> return
>> lines and oil tank. The new recommended oils meet
that requirement. The
>> re-marked dipstick was also for the oil foaming
issue. It was found that
>> under certain contitions, the tank will have
insufficient liquid oil and
>> the
>> pump can suck air. This fro Eric Tucker last year
at the Oshkosh Rotax
>> Forum
>>
>> When charging my oil lines after an oil change -
Rotax calls it
>> "venting" -
>> I unhook the return line -crank case banjo fitting
on the engine to tank -
>> and add a short piece of tubing to it that is fed
to a container in case
>> any
>> oil will be burped from the crank case. I plug
it's fitting on the oil
>> tank
>> with a rubber stopper. Then I pressurize the tank
using compressed air
>> through a pressure regulator that is attached to
the oil tank vent line.
>> This wil force oil down the pump feed line so the
pump won't have to suck
>> the oil from the tank - it won't if there is air
in the line. Make sure
>> the
>> oil tank cap is on. I will hand prop the engine
several blades then run
>> the
>> starter until I see the pressure rise. It helps
to remove one plug from
>> each cylinder to take the load off the bearings
etc.
>>
>> Hope this is helpful.
>>
>> Lowell
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and
oil?
>>
>>
>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul
Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I'm getting ready to run my 912ul on my model IV,
so I went and read all
>>> of
>>> that (very confusing) stuff on the www.rotax-
owners.com site for the
>>> latest
>>> and greatest on coolants and oils, plus I
searched the kitfox list for
>>> info.
>>> But I haven't found anything real current. And
seeing how this stuff
>>> seems
>>> to be continually changing, I thought I had
better ask all of you before
>>> putting the wrong stuff in my engine.
>>>
>>> So, my questions are;
>>>
>>> - Has there been any updated information on
coolant requirements?
>>>
>>> - Is Evans Waterless coolant still the way to go?
>>>
>>> - How much coolant will I need to buy for my
912ul Model IV (no heater
>>> core)
>>>
>>> - Is it ok to use standard coolant in the 912
yet? (I tend to go places
>>> that are pretty far off the beaten path. At
times regular coolant can be
>>> hard enough to find, much less Waterless EVANs
NPG)
>>>
>>> - What is the best oil to run?
>>>
>>> - And last but not least, I heard I have to bleed
the oil and coolant
>>> systems of trapped air prior to starting the
engine. Is this true? And
>>> how
>>> does one do it if it is?
>>>
>>> Suggestions? Ideas? Advice?
>>>
>>> Paul Seehafer
>>> Central Wisconsin
>>> Model IV-1200 912ul on Aerocet Amphibs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Floran Higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net>
To get the oil out of the oil tank, I take the top off of the tank, take
everything out and clean it, then use one of those vacuum pumps to remove
all of the oil. That way I get all of the sludge out of the bottom of the
tank.
Floran H
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>
> Lowell,
>
> What coolant have you been using? Does your 912 run hot? How much
> coolant
> does your engine take when you change it? Do you have to "vent" the
> cooling
> system like you did the oil when changing it?
>
> And thanks for the info on the oil. But I'm confused with oil change
> procedures? I hope this doesn't sound stupid, but do you drain the oil
> tank
> as well as the crankcase every time you change oil? The fitting on my
> tank
> is a real bear to get at. But it looks like if I don't I will have a good
> share of the oil in the tank yet. If so I'm thinking about installing one
> of those easy open valves that are available. But I'm not sure there is
> room up there for it? How do you do yours? Has anyone tried an extended
> line with a valve at the end like they use in the marine industry. Sure
> would make life easier if that tank has to be drained every change.
>
> Anyone using the full synthetic oils? I had a bad experience with
> synthetic
> in a car once years ago, and have been leary of it ever since. But if it
> truly is better for the engine today, I would use it. I would imagine I
> could extend my oil change intervals (here in wisconsin you fly all you
> can
> while the weather holds out :-) Times a wastin' when you have to change
> your oil...
>
> Paul Seehafer
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>>
>> Hi, Paul,
>>
>> I have still not installed the Evans coolant, though I plan to
>> eventually.
>> I haven't had to add coolant since learning that the bottle doesn't like
>> to
>> be very full - 1/2" in my airplane when cold. It always stays the same.
>> I
>> change it every two years.
>>
>> I use the Pennzoil Motorcycle Motor oil. It is hard to find locally, but
>> I
>> found it online and bought two cases. About the oil. Rotax tests all
>> the
>> oil they recommend and the latest change in the recommendations was due
>> to
>> the EPA outlawing an additive that was used to prevent foaming in the
>> return
>> lines and oil tank. The new recommended oils meet that requirement. The
>> re-marked dipstick was also for the oil foaming issue. It was found that
>> under certain contitions, the tank will have insufficient liquid oil and
>> the
>> pump can suck air. This fro Eric Tucker last year at the Oshkosh Rotax
>> Forum
>>
>> When charging my oil lines after an oil change - Rotax calls it
>> "venting" -
>> I unhook the return line -crank case banjo fitting on the engine to
>> tank -
>> and add a short piece of tubing to it that is fed to a container in case
>> any
>> oil will be burped from the crank case. I plug it's fitting on the oil
>> tank
>> with a rubber stopper. Then I pressurize the tank using compressed air
>> through a pressure regulator that is attached to the oil tank vent line.
>> This wil force oil down the pump feed line so the pump won't have to
>> suck
>> the oil from the tank - it won't if there is air in the line. Make sure
>> the
>> oil tank cap is on. I will hand prop the engine several blades then run
>> the
>> starter until I see the pressure rise. It helps to remove one plug from
>> each cylinder to take the load off the bearings etc.
>>
>> Hope this is helpful.
>>
>> Lowell
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
>>
>>
>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I'm getting ready to run my 912ul on my model IV, so I went and read all
>>> of
>>> that (very confusing) stuff on the www.rotax-owners.com site for the
>>> latest
>>> and greatest on coolants and oils, plus I searched the kitfox list for
>>> info.
>>> But I haven't found anything real current. And seeing how this stuff
>>> seems
>>> to be continually changing, I thought I had better ask all of you before
>>> putting the wrong stuff in my engine.
>>>
>>> So, my questions are;
>>>
>>> - Has there been any updated information on coolant requirements?
>>>
>>> - Is Evans Waterless coolant still the way to go?
>>>
>>> - How much coolant will I need to buy for my 912ul Model IV (no heater
>>> core)
>>>
>>> - Is it ok to use standard coolant in the 912 yet? (I tend to go places
>>> that are pretty far off the beaten path. At times regular coolant can
>>> be
>>> hard enough to find, much less Waterless EVANs NPG)
>>>
>>> - What is the best oil to run?
>>>
>>> - And last but not least, I heard I have to bleed the oil and coolant
>>> systems of trapped air prior to starting the engine. Is this true? And
>>> how
>>> does one do it if it is?
>>>
>>> Suggestions? Ideas? Advice?
>>>
>>> Paul Seehafer
>>> Central Wisconsin
>>> Model IV-1200 912ul on Aerocet Amphibs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Latest on 912 coolant and oil? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Paul,
I'm sure you'll get varying comments. Usually it's a good idea to follow
the Engine manufactures recommendation. OK I've said it.... I follow the
previous recommendation.. 50/50 mix. Use a extended life Antifreeze that is
Silicate Free and I use distilled water.
As for oil... Myself and several others have had great success with Honda
Pro GN4. You can get it from the local Honda shop, it has the gear additive
for the gear box.. Designed for high rpm engines.
I run 100LL on the 912S and add the TCP that I sell religiously. I also
change the oil every 25-30 hours. The results say you could probably go
longer but I have always felt that the oil is the life blood of the engine
and therefore I change it regularly. Because of the lead in the fuel I do
pull the tank and clean it as well... "get the lead out"
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Seehafer
Subject: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
All,
I'm getting ready to run my 912ul on my model IV, so I went and read all of
that (very confusing) stuff on the www.rotax-owners.com site for the latest
and greatest on coolants and oils, plus I searched the kitfox list for info.
But I haven't found anything real current. And seeing how this stuff seems
to be continually changing, I thought I had better ask all of you before
putting the wrong stuff in my engine.
So, my questions are;
- Has there been any updated information on coolant requirements?
- Is Evans Waterless coolant still the way to go?
- How much coolant will I need to buy for my 912ul Model IV (no heater core)
- Is it ok to use standard coolant in the 912 yet? (I tend to go places
that are pretty far off the beaten path. At times regular coolant can be
hard enough to find, much less Waterless EVANs NPG)
- What is the best oil to run?
- And last but not least, I heard I have to bleed the oil and coolant
systems of trapped air prior to starting the engine. Is this true? And how
does one do it if it is?
Suggestions? Ideas? Advice?
Paul Seehafer
Central Wisconsin
Model IV-1200 912ul on Aerocet Amphibs
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Hello guys,
I know this must have been discussed a zillion times before but ... I have
those big tundra tyres and they are getting worn off from landing on asphalt. I
thought their size was unusual but no, even in little Norway, they have them in
store. But they are not shaved round like mine.
My question is: Why do they have to be shaved? Can they have a pattern in it?
Can they have a flat surface or does it have to be round?
Thanks in advance,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Hello List,
Has anyone ever thought of controlling an externally
mounted video camera with the 12 volt controls from a
power mirror from a car? Just an idea...
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
--- Allan Aaron <aaaron@tvp.com.au> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Aaron"
> <aaaron@tvp.com.au>
>
> I did it that with my Avid on my trip to Oshkosh a
> few years ago.
> Generally worked OK but I got a lot of reflection
> from the lexan windows
> and windscreen. I think mounting on the wing strut
> would be good. I
> know Lowell has done it that way, but with a rather
> complex setup. I'm
> wondering if there is an easier way.
> Allan
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| Subject: | Re: Tyres ... again |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
Michel:
I won't exactly answer your question, but will make a
related comment. I use McCreary, 6 ply, aviation
grade tires on my 8 inches wheels. These tires are
heavier, and more expensive, but with the Kitfox gross
weight and landing speed, should last "forever".
Saludos!
Jose
---
>
> Hello guys,
> I know this must have been discussed a zillion times
> before but ... I have
> those big tundra tyres and they are getting worn off
> from landing on asphalt. I
> thought their size was unusual but no, even in
> little Norway, they have them in
> store. But they are not shaved round like mine.
> My question is: Why do they have to be shaved? Can
> they have a pattern in it?
> Can they have a flat surface or does it have to be
> round?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Michel
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
Jose M. Toro, P.E.
Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200
"A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Tyres ... again |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Hi Michel,
This is the one I'll love to answer, want to know?
Go here;
http://kitfox.net/images/Dsc00007B.jpg
This is unshaved, because it's a Kitfox :) ..
On this low speed little beauty you can do that, no problem with high
speed flying particles - no need for the sleek ones here!
No doubt, my Kitfox is a he. : )
Cheers
Torgeir.
On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:03:54 +0200, Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Hello guys,
> I know this must have been discussed a zillion times before but ... I
> have
> those big tundra tyres and they are getting worn off from landing on
> asphalt. I
> thought their size was unusual but no, even in little Norway, they have
> them in
> store. But they are not shaved round like mine.
> My question is: Why do they have to be shaved? Can they have a pattern
> in it?
> Can they have a flat surface or does it have to be round?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Michel
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Muffler, was: Tyres ... again |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
Torgeir:
I saw on the picture that you use extensions on the
muffler exits. Does that help keeping the gases off
the cockpit?
Jose
>
> http://kitfox.net/images/Dsc00007B.jpg
>
Jose M. Toro, P.E.
Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200
"A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
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| Subject: | Latest on 912 coolant and oil? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Paul,
I too am getting ready to fire up my engine in the next few days. I
agree with John on the Honda oil. I called Lockwood and asked them about
using the Honda oil and there comment was 'If it's good enough for Honda
engines its good enough for Rotax'. The oil is a full synthetic with gear
additives. As for coolant I'm using Dexcool and distilled water 50/50.
Roger Mac
N619RM ready to taxi
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Paul,
I'm sure you'll get varying comments. Usually it's a good idea to
follow
the Engine manufactures recommendation. OK I've said it.... I follow the
previous recommendation.. 50/50 mix. Use a extended life Antifreeze that is
Silicate Free and I use distilled water.
As for oil... Myself and several others have had great success with Honda
Pro GN4. You can get it from the local Honda shop, it has the gear additive
for the gear box.. Designed for high rpm engines.
I run 100LL on the 912S and add the TCP that I sell religiously. I also
change the oil every 25-30 hours. The results say you could probably go
longer but I have always felt that the oil is the life blood of the engine
and therefore I change it regularly. Because of the lead in the fuel I do
pull the tank and clean it as well... "get the lead out"
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Seehafer
Subject: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
All,
I'm getting ready to run my 912ul on my model IV, so I went and read all of
that (very confusing) stuff on the www.rotax-owners.com site for the latest
and greatest on coolants and oils, plus I searched the kitfox list for info.
But I haven't found anything real current. And seeing how this stuff seems
to be continually changing, I thought I had better ask all of you before
putting the wrong stuff in my engine.
So, my questions are;
- Has there been any updated information on coolant requirements?
- Is Evans Waterless coolant still the way to go?
- How much coolant will I need to buy for my 912ul Model IV (no heater core)
- Is it ok to use standard coolant in the 912 yet? (I tend to go places
that are pretty far off the beaten path. At times regular coolant can be
hard enough to find, much less Waterless EVANs NPG)
- What is the best oil to run?
- And last but not least, I heard I have to bleed the oil and coolant
systems of trapped air prior to starting the engine. Is this true? And how
does one do it if it is?
Suggestions? Ideas? Advice?
Paul Seehafer
Central Wisconsin
Model IV-1200 912ul on Aerocet Amphibs
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| Subject: | Latest on 912 coolant and oil? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <gjglh@cebridge.net>
Has anyone heard any pros or cons on mobil 1 synthetic. That's what I have
been using for the 400 hrs.
Gary
SPD912LS
On Fri Jul 8 15:37 , 'Donna and Roger McConnell' <rdmac@swbell.net> sent:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
rdmac@swbell.net>
>
>Paul,
> I too am getting ready to fire up my engine in the next few days. I
>agree with John on the Honda oil. I called Lockwood and asked them about
>using the Honda oil and there comment was 'If it's good enough for Honda
>engines its good enough for Rotax'. The oil is a full synthetic with gear
>additives. As for coolant I'm using Dexcool and distilled water 50/50.
> Roger Mac
> N619RM ready to taxi
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com','','','')">owner-kitfox-list-
server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
>Paul,
> I'm sure you'll get varying comments. Usually it's a good idea to
>follow
>the Engine manufactures recommendation. OK I've said it.... I follow the
>previous recommendation.. 50/50 mix. Use a extended life Antifreeze that is
>Silicate Free and I use distilled water.
>
>As for oil... Myself and several others have had great success with Honda
>Pro GN4. You can get it from the local Honda shop, it has the gear additive
>for the gear box.. Designed for high rpm engines.
>
>I run 100LL on the 912S and add the TCP that I sell religiously. I also
>change the oil every 25-30 hours. The results say you could probably go
>longer but I have always felt that the oil is the life blood of the engine
>and therefore I change it regularly. Because of the lead in the fuel I do
>pull the tank and clean it as well... "get the lead out"
>
>
>Fly Safe !!
>John & Debra McBean
>www.sportplanellc.com
>"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com','','','')">owner-kitfox-list-
server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Seehafer
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" av8rps@tznet.com>
>
>All,
>
>I'm getting ready to run my 912ul on my model IV, so I went and read all of
>that (very confusing) stuff on the www.rotax-owners.com site for the latest
>and greatest on coolants and oils, plus I searched the kitfox list for info.
>But I haven't found anything real current. And seeing how this stuff seems
>to be continually changing, I thought I had better ask all of you before
>putting the wrong stuff in my engine.
>
>So, my questions are;
>
>- Has there been any updated information on coolant requirements?
>
>- Is Evans Waterless coolant still the way to go?
>
>- How much coolant will I need to buy for my 912ul Model IV (no heater core)
>
>- Is it ok to use standard coolant in the 912 yet? (I tend to go places
>that are pretty far off the beaten path. At times regular coolant can be
>hard enough to find, much less Waterless EVANs NPG)
>
>- What is the best oil to run?
>
>- And last but not least, I heard I have to bleed the oil and coolant
>systems of trapped air prior to starting the engine. Is this true? And how
>does one do it if it is?
>
>Suggestions? Ideas? Advice?
>
>Paul Seehafer
>Central Wisconsin
>Model IV-1200 912ul on Aerocet Amphibs
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Muffler, was: Tyres ... again |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Hi Jose,
Sure, this is the trick everyone(?) use to get the exhaust away.
With this extension most of the fume "of two stroke" is gone.
Torgeir.
On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:26:13 -0700 (PDT), Jose M. Toro
<jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
>
> Torgeir:
>
> I saw on the picture that you use extensions on the
> muffler exits. Does that help keeping the gases off
> the cockpit?
>
> Jose
>
>>
>> http://kitfox.net/images/Dsc00007B.jpg
>>
>
>
> Jose M. Toro, P.E.
> Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200
> "A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
>
>
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| Subject: | Brake line bleeding |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
I need some input from list member who have installed brake fluid. What
method did you use to install and bleed your brake lines? I tried to do that
today but wound up with a lot of air in the lines. The brakes I have are
Cleveland and I found in the ACS catalog a little fitting called a Brake
Line Bleeder that attaches to a fitting on the bottom of the caliper. It is
an expensive little item for almost $55.00. I'm looking for a less expensive
alternative for installing the brake fluid. Comments please.
Roger Mac
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: KITFOXZ@aol.com
In a message dated 7/8/2005 1:52:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
gjfpilot@yahoo.com writes:
Hello List,
Has anyone ever thought of controlling an externally
mounted video camera with the 12 volt controls from a
power mirror from a car? Just an idea...
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
Great idea Grant! A high quality and robust power mirror drive system would
be found in a Lexus SUV.
IMHO
John
John P. Marzluf
Columbus, Ohio
Kitfox Outback (out back in the garage)
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| Subject: | Re: Brake line bleeding |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <gjglh@cebridge.net>
Roger,
I have matco brakes on my fox. I use an oil can with a tube connected from
the can to the bottom of the caliper. open the line at the master cylinder
and catch it as it comes out the top. The air has to rise with the fluid. I
also took a 10-32 cap screw put a hole thru it and attached a tube to the
top of the master cylinder for easy fluid recycle.
Gary
spdster912ls
On Fri Jul 8 18:01 , 'Donna and Roger McConnell' <rdmac@swbell.net> sent:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
rdmac@swbell.net>
>
>I need some input from list member who have installed brake fluid. What
>method did you use to install and bleed your brake lines? I tried to do that
>today but wound up with a lot of air in the lines. The brakes I have are
>Cleveland and I found in the ACS catalog a little fitting called a Brake
>Line Bleeder that attaches to a fitting on the bottom of the caliper. It is
>an expensive little item for almost $55.00. I'm looking for a less expensive
>alternative for installing the brake fluid. Comments please.
>
> Roger Mac
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brake line bleeding |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net>
Roger,
Here is what has worked for me, I have an old electric fuel pump from a Jeep
Grand Cherokee that I use to power bleed my brakes. I fill a jar with brake
fluid and drop the fuel pump in. I hook the fuel pump to the bleeder on the
bottom of the brake caliper and then replace the plug in the top of the
brake fluid reservoir canister with a hose barb with a hose that runs back
to the jar. I have a momentary push button set up on the fuel pump so I can
bump it, running it wide open creates to much pressure and pops the hose off
the brake caliper. I work the brake pedals as I am bleeding, it goes quick
and works great.
Lloyd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Brake line bleeding
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
> <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
> I need some input from list member who have installed brake fluid. What
> method did you use to install and bleed your brake lines? I tried to do
> that
> today but wound up with a lot of air in the lines. The brakes I have are
> Cleveland and I found in the ACS catalog a little fitting called a Brake
> Line Bleeder that attaches to a fitting on the bottom of the caliper. It
> is
> an expensive little item for almost $55.00. I'm looking for a less
> expensive
> alternative for installing the brake fluid. Comments please.
>
> Roger Mac
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Brake line bleeding |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Gary,
Thanks for the info. I tried that method and it will not work for
these Cleveland brakes because they have a check valve fitting on them and
they will not allow a simple rubber tube to run the fluid in. It needs a
special fitting that I will probable have to purchase in order to do this
right.
Roger
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gjglh@cebridge.net
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Brake line bleeding
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <gjglh@cebridge.net>
Roger,
I have matco brakes on my fox. I use an oil can with a tube connected from
the can to the bottom of the caliper. open the line at the master cylinder
and catch it as it comes out the top. The air has to rise with the fluid. I
also took a 10-32 cap screw put a hole thru it and attached a tube to the
top of the master cylinder for easy fluid recycle.
Gary
spdster912ls
On Fri Jul 8 18:01 , 'Donna and Roger McConnell' <rdmac@swbell.net> sent:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
rdmac@swbell.net>
>
>I need some input from list member who have installed brake fluid. What
>method did you use to install and bleed your brake lines? I tried to do
that
>today but wound up with a lot of air in the lines. The brakes I have are
>Cleveland and I found in the ACS catalog a little fitting called a Brake
>Line Bleeder that attaches to a fitting on the bottom of the caliper. It is
>an expensive little item for almost $55.00. I'm looking for a less
expensive
>alternative for installing the brake fluid. Comments please.
>
> Roger Mac
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Read the oil recommendations on Rotax SB SI-18-1997 . It recommends this
oil if unleaded fuel is used exclusively and your runnning temps are in the
250 range. It doesn't discourage the oil if temps are below that, but it
does recommend other oils if occasional 100LL is used.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: <gjglh@cebridge.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: <gjglh@cebridge.net>
>
> Has anyone heard any pros or cons on mobil 1 synthetic. That's what I have
> been using for the 400 hrs.
>
> Gary
> SPD912LS
>
> On Fri Jul 8 15:37 , 'Donna and Roger McConnell' <rdmac@swbell.net> sent:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
> rdmac@swbell.net>
>>
>>Paul,
>> I too am getting ready to fire up my engine in the next few days.
>> I
>>agree with John on the Honda oil. I called Lockwood and asked them about
>>using the Honda oil and there comment was 'If it's good enough for Honda
>>engines its good enough for Rotax'. The oil is a full synthetic with gear
>>additives. As for coolant I'm using Dexcool and distilled water 50/50.
>> Roger Mac
>> N619RM ready to taxi
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>>[owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com','','','')">owner-kitfox-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
>>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>>
>>Paul,
>> I'm sure you'll get varying comments. Usually it's a good idea to
>>follow
>>the Engine manufactures recommendation. OK I've said it.... I follow the
>>previous recommendation.. 50/50 mix. Use a extended life Antifreeze that
>>is
>>Silicate Free and I use distilled water.
>>
>>As for oil... Myself and several others have had great success with Honda
>>Pro GN4. You can get it from the local Honda shop, it has the gear
>>additive
>>for the gear box.. Designed for high rpm engines.
>>
>>I run 100LL on the 912S and add the TCP that I sell religiously. I also
>>change the oil every 25-30 hours. The results say you could probably go
>>longer but I have always felt that the oil is the life blood of the engine
>>and therefore I change it regularly. Because of the lead in the fuel I do
>>pull the tank and clean it as well... "get the lead out"
>>
>>
>>Fly Safe !!
>>John & Debra McBean
>>www.sportplanellc.com
>>"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>>[owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com','','','')">owner-kitfox-list-
> server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Seehafer
>>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" av8rps@tznet.com>
>>
>>All,
>>
>>I'm getting ready to run my 912ul on my model IV, so I went and read all
>>of
>>that (very confusing) stuff on the www.rotax-owners.com site for the
>>latest
>>and greatest on coolants and oils, plus I searched the kitfox list for
>>info.
>>But I haven't found anything real current. And seeing how this stuff
>>seems
>>to be continually changing, I thought I had better ask all of you before
>>putting the wrong stuff in my engine.
>>
>>So, my questions are;
>>
>>- Has there been any updated information on coolant requirements?
>>
>>- Is Evans Waterless coolant still the way to go?
>>
>>- How much coolant will I need to buy for my 912ul Model IV (no heater
>>core)
>>
>>- Is it ok to use standard coolant in the 912 yet? (I tend to go places
>>that are pretty far off the beaten path. At times regular coolant can be
>>hard enough to find, much less Waterless EVANs NPG)
>>
>>- What is the best oil to run?
>>
>>- And last but not least, I heard I have to bleed the oil and coolant
>>systems of trapped air prior to starting the engine. Is this true? And
>>how
>>does one do it if it is?
>>
>>Suggestions? Ideas? Advice?
>>
>>Paul Seehafer
>>Central Wisconsin
>>Model IV-1200 912ul on Aerocet Amphibs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Latest on 912 coolant and oil? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
I suspect that Rotax will have a hard time recommending another engine
manufacturers oil, so my "guess" is that the Honda oil would otherwise be on
the list. That said, the reason I am using the oil from the accepted list
is that an I used to use and previously listedt was delisted because of the
the EPA mandated formula change on that brand of oil (Motul 5100). I began
using an oil formulated and sold by California Power Systems (a Rotax
distributor). Eric said they were planning on testing that oil for the
foaming problem - nothing yet. I have discontinued using that oil.
Keep in mind that the reason for the new dipstick was at least in part to
compensate for the foaming issue. Rotax has published a number of bulletins
regarding the problems of air in the oil system and this is an area where
caution is appropriate as it seems to me that the vibration issues with our
engines - spinning a prop - is a bit different than a motorcycle, spinning
a chain. I'm usually a bit skeptical of manufacturers claims if it has to
do with recommending their own products etc. but Eric spent a bit of time on
this issue last year at OSH and it got me a little concerned.
Lowell
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
> <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
> Paul,
> I too am getting ready to fire up my engine in the next few days. I
> agree with John on the Honda oil. I called Lockwood and asked them about
> using the Honda oil and there comment was 'If it's good enough for Honda
> engines its good enough for Rotax'. The oil is a full synthetic with gear
> additives. As for coolant I'm using Dexcool and distilled water 50/50.
> Roger Mac
> N619RM ready to taxi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
> Paul,
> I'm sure you'll get varying comments. Usually it's a good idea to
> follow
> the Engine manufactures recommendation. OK I've said it.... I follow the
> previous recommendation.. 50/50 mix. Use a extended life Antifreeze that
> is
> Silicate Free and I use distilled water.
>
> As for oil... Myself and several others have had great success with Honda
> Pro GN4. You can get it from the local Honda shop, it has the gear
> additive
> for the gear box.. Designed for high rpm engines.
>
> I run 100LL on the 912S and add the TCP that I sell religiously. I also
> change the oil every 25-30 hours. The results say you could probably go
> longer but I have always felt that the oil is the life blood of the engine
> and therefore I change it regularly. Because of the lead in the fuel I do
> pull the tank and clean it as well... "get the lead out"
>
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Seehafer
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Latest on 912 coolant and oil?
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>
> All,
>
> I'm getting ready to run my 912ul on my model IV, so I went and read all
> of
> that (very confusing) stuff on the www.rotax-owners.com site for the
> latest
> and greatest on coolants and oils, plus I searched the kitfox list for
> info.
> But I haven't found anything real current. And seeing how this stuff
> seems
> to be continually changing, I thought I had better ask all of you before
> putting the wrong stuff in my engine.
>
> So, my questions are;
>
> - Has there been any updated information on coolant requirements?
>
> - Is Evans Waterless coolant still the way to go?
>
> - How much coolant will I need to buy for my 912ul Model IV (no heater
> core)
>
> - Is it ok to use standard coolant in the 912 yet? (I tend to go places
> that are pretty far off the beaten path. At times regular coolant can be
> hard enough to find, much less Waterless EVANs NPG)
>
> - What is the best oil to run?
>
> - And last but not least, I heard I have to bleed the oil and coolant
> systems of trapped air prior to starting the engine. Is this true? And
> how
> does one do it if it is?
>
> Suggestions? Ideas? Advice?
>
> Paul Seehafer
> Central Wisconsin
> Model IV-1200 912ul on Aerocet Amphibs
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Grant that is one thing I haven't tried. I did some testing using RC model
servos and even with tons of gear reduction, you can see the motor pulses if
you pan the camera. I suspect you will see the same thing with the mirror
activator. I am going to eventually mount a high res digital still camera
and that is one possibility, though. One more possible problem with the
mirror unit is that the speeds are constant with a directional off and on
switch and a proportional pan would be impossible.
I was thinking that I didn't use a proportional pan that often, but I do.
Especially when flying with another airplane and trying to keep it in the
field of view or tracking something on the ground.
I have tried just about everything once and sometimes more than once. If
anyone is interested in my failures, drop a note and I can at least let you
know what didn't work for me.
One late trick. I bought a new highrer resolution camera and surprise -
when it came it didn't have an external microphone jack. How do I get air
to air and ATC sound into the final video. Since there is very little
syncronized sounds and editing is not a problem, I got an IPOD photo with
enough capacity to record every sound for about 5 and a half days. I turn
it on just before take off and shut it down after the flight segment. I had
fouund that most of the good chat was during the more boring stretches when
the camera was off. I misssed too much of the good stuff. Now I get
everything.
I listened to some of the audio from our last Idaho trip and as I listened
to one approach, I could feel the adrenaline rush as I relived the event.
Maybe this has to do with why music has such an emotional effect. I found
the sound with no video much more moving than the video without the sound.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Fluent" <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Video...
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello List,
> Has anyone ever thought of controlling an externally
> mounted video camera with the 12 volt controls from a
> power mirror from a car? Just an idea...
> Grant Fluent
> Newcastle, NE
> Classic IV 912S
>
> --- Allan Aaron <aaaron@tvp.com.au> wrote:
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Aaron"
>> <aaaron@tvp.com.au>
>>
>> I did it that with my Avid on my trip to Oshkosh a
>> few years ago.
>> Generally worked OK but I got a lot of reflection
>> from the lexan windows
>> and windscreen. I think mounting on the wing strut
>> would be good. I
>> know Lowell has done it that way, but with a rather
>> complex setup. I'm
>> wondering if there is an easier way.
>> Allan
>
>
>
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