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1. 01:05 AM - SV: Re: Gap tapes. (Michel Verheughe)
2. 03:55 AM - Re: 912S Cylinder Head Temps (kitfoxjunky)
3. 05:24 AM - Re:gap tapes (Lmar)
4. 05:41 AM - Re: Re: Gap tapes. (Fox5flyer)
5. 06:06 AM - Re: 582 Firewall Forward (Cloughley, Bill)
6. 07:02 AM - FW: Re: Gap tapes. (Peter Brookes)
7. 06:07 PM - From the other side. (Torgeir Mortensen)
8. 06:12 PM - Electrical Tools-Wiring Supplies-Harnesses and More ()
9. 08:07 PM - Re: From the other side. (Jeff Sattin)
10. 09:29 PM - Re: From the other side. (John Perry)
11. 11:19 PM - Re: From the other side. (Michel Verheughe)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: David Savener [david_savener@msn.com]
> I would like more effective controls for the rudder and elevator on my Model
II.
> I think I want to seal the gaps. Does it really work?
Hello Dave,
I have gap sealed the elevator and rudder of my model 3 and yes, I notice a difference.
Since your model II has less tail surface, I think it could be a good
idea to seal your gaps.
> Should I make an S type seal?
I have done both the S-type seal and double-seal. Both helps.
For the S-type, I used a two-inches off-the-shelf 3M transparent tape that I overlapped
about an inch. For the double-type, I joined the same two-inches tape
with a one-inch tape in the middle.
The trick is to prepare and place the tapes.
First, I cut them in lenght that equal the distances between the hinges of the
elevator and rudder. I wanted the hinges to be accessible and not covered by tape.
In any case, using the S-type, you need to cut them.
Then I used a plate of plastic that I sprayed with water, using the bottle my wife
uses for ironing clothes. The water helps to keep the tape on the plate when
you come with the other tape and static electricity tend to lift it.
Once the two tapes together (either overlapping or 1"-on-2") I spray them again
with a thin film of water. I put them in place, the water preventing them to
be glued too quickly, then I press them in place, squeezing the tiny drops of
water out.
I believe some people use water mixed with dishwashing soap. Water only worked
well for me.
I have had these tapes for two years now and they still stick and work well. Maybe
I'll replace them next year.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: 912S Cylinder Head Temps |
Serialize complete at 07/15/2005 06:54:55 AM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Hi Jim
I do run an oil cooler. I am going to swap out the guage and see if the
reading is accurate.
Gary Walsh
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lmar <my93avid@yahoo.com>
I have found that the simplest, longest lasting tape is ordinary fabric tapes applied
as per the rest of the airplane. I used this on several airplanes. If
you put it over the top of the hinge line, you can cut out access space at the
hinge pins, but I've just inspected mine from below.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Gap tapes. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Yes, it does work. The gap in the elevator is pretty big and a lot of air
can escape through without a seal which has an effect on the flare and some
amount of cruise drag. In my opinion the best gap sealer out there is
(was?) Ski Saver tape that was used to protect the top surface of snow skis
from getting poked and scratched by the poles. The stuff is like very
tough, super thick scotch tape and could be purchased in different widths.
The reason for (was?) is because I was told that it is no longer produced,
but that may not be true. My model 5 has it on the elevator, and it's held
up fine for 5 years; however, the airplane is nearly always hangared when
not in use.
The S-seal method works great for the rudder and elevator. Just use two
pieces back to front.
Might try ebay for some.
Perhaps an occasional search on the web might yield a supply.
Good luck,
Deke
> I would like more effective controls for the rudder and elevator on my
Model II. I think I want to seal the gaps. Does it really work?
>
> Can the list recommend any particular type of tape? Should I make an S
type seal?(Example - Trailing edge top of Horizontal Stabilizer to the
bottom of the leading edge of the elevator)
>
> Should I use double back tape to adhere the tape?
>
> I have not tried this before and would appreciate any comments from those
with experience!!
>
> Somewhere along the way I saved this web address -
http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page29.htm<http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page29.htm>
>
> They have several tapes available but I have no idea which would work for
my application.
> Dave S
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: 582 Firewall Forward |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cloughley, Bill" <BCloughl@ciena.com>
I'm hooking up a 582 in a Model I which has never flown before. I'm
having a hard time with the throttle cable installation and mounting the
coolant filler/recovery tank. To give me some ideas, I was wondering if
anyone had digital images of their installation they could send me.
Thanks in advance,
Bill
Severna Park, Maryland
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Brookes" <pdbrookes@blueyonder.co.uk>
I use Spinnaker tape, available in a range of colours from your local
chandlers!! (or via the web!)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: Gap tapes.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Yes, it does work. The gap in the elevator is pretty big and a lot of air
can escape through without a seal which has an effect on the flare and some
amount of cruise drag. In my opinion the best gap sealer out there is
(was?) Ski Saver tape that was used to protect the top surface of snow skis
from getting poked and scratched by the poles. The stuff is like very
tough, super thick scotch tape and could be purchased in different widths.
The reason for (was?) is because I was told that it is no longer produced,
but that may not be true. My model 5 has it on the elevator, and it's held
up fine for 5 years; however, the airplane is nearly always hangared when
not in use.
The S-seal method works great for the rudder and elevator. Just use two
pieces back to front.
Might try ebay for some.
Perhaps an occasional search on the web might yield a supply.
Good luck,
Deke
> I would like more effective controls for the rudder and elevator on my
Model II. I think I want to seal the gaps. Does it really work?
>
> Can the list recommend any particular type of tape? Should I make an S
type seal?(Example - Trailing edge top of Horizontal Stabilizer to the
bottom of the leading edge of the elevator)
>
> Should I use double back tape to adhere the tape?
>
> I have not tried this before and would appreciate any comments from those
with experience!!
>
> Somewhere along the way I saved this web address -
http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page29.htm<http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page2
9.htm>
>
> They have several tapes available but I have no idea which would work for
my application.
> Dave S
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | From the other side. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Hi, Kitfox Friends,
Very -very quiet, -on the list, right.
Well, here's something, you'll know....and will -remember for a long
time...I'll hope :) ..
This time, I'll like to show you a different side(?)(-from this side of
the pound).
This is about the similarity of a Kitfox and a Fighter... He., he , now
you'll wonder..
Ok,. Some time ago I got this link to a "download" site, from my god
friend; Joe Hemmer(maybe some of you'll know Joe(?)). (Later on I've got
plenty of directions to this site..)
The link I'll give you, is about(I'll think); a pilot's salute to an
outgoing aircraft, in this case a Dassault Mirage III S.
This is a video made by some "wild rebels-" flying the Mirage Fighter in
the Alps (just like my homeplace).
You'll know, when an aircraft is done - it's finished(.), have got all the
modifications, being tuned- then, -it's outsource....
I've seen this video numerous of times, don't know why..
Before you'll jump to the link, warning, warning, this file is very large,
36 Mbytes!!
If you do not have the bandwidth(it will take forever- to download), have
a copy from a friend, It's worth all the struggle...
Here's the link:
http://www.canardzone.com/content/JetFlightInMountains.wmv
Don't know how many times I've been w.. this little record.
When you (hopefully)- is enjoying this flight, I'm on the way to
Thailand...
Happy Holidays to everyone.
Torgeir..
PS:
Now youll tell me; is there any similarity between a Kitfox and a
fighter..(?) (Sure -sure, plenty, but)..
Come on, -explain the similarity..
Ill be back in three week....
By the way, here's the actual plane (the leader) from another view (hope
this work).
http://images.airliners.net/open.file?id=355549&WxsIERv=Qnffnhyg%20Zventr%20VVV%20F&WdsYXMg=Fjvgmreynaq%20-%20Nve%20Sbepr&QtODMg=Jnqqvatgba%20%28JGA%20%2F%20RTKJ%29&ERDLTkt=HX%20-%20Ratynaq&ktODMp=Whar%2017%2C%201993&BP=0&WNEb25u=Wbua%20Uvttvaf%20-%20NveGrnzVzntrf&xsIERvdWdsY=W-2308&MgTUQtODMgKE=Fjvff%20NS%20Zventr%20VVV%20ernql%20sbe%20n%20NPZV%20zvffvba&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=1383&NEb25uZWxs=2003-05-22%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=998&static=yes&width=1024&height=749&sok=JURER%20%20%28cubgb_qngr%20%20%3D%20%27Whar%2017%2C%201993%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=3&prev_id=510712&next_id=355548
All of the above belongs to the link.
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| Subject: | Electrical Tools-Wiring Supplies-Harnesses and More |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <fablef@bellsouth.net>
Hi Everyone,
With Matt Dralle's permission, I wanted to let everyone on the list know that Affordable
Panels has added electrical tools, electrical supplies, wiring harnesses
and more to our inventory. We have some of the lowest prices on everything
from tools, terminals, connectors, wire, electroluminescent lighting, etc.
Our wiring harnesses for all Trutrak Autopilots are available in "Standard" and
"Wing Root Disconnect" form, and we also offer harnesses for the Dynon EFIS,
Flightcom and many others at the very best prices.
Our full page catalog will be out in a couple of weeks. In the mean time, anyone
interested can download the electrical portion of our catalog here.
http://www.affordablepanels.com/electrical.htm
All electrical orders placed on-line or faxed with a total above $175.00 will ship
free via UPS GROUND.
Best Regards,
Fabian Lefler
www.affordablepanels.com
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| Subject: | From the other side. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeff Sattin" <livinnmd@comcast.net>
Torgeir,
Great video.
Thanks for sharing.
Jeff Sattin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Torgeir
Mortensen
Subject: Kitfox-List: From the other side.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen
--> <torgemor@online.no>
Hi, Kitfox Friends,
Very -very quiet, -on the list, right.
Well, here's something, you'll know....and will -remember for a long
time...I'll hope :) ..
This time, I'll like to show you a different side(?)(-from this side of
the pound).
This is about the similarity of a Kitfox and a Fighter... He., he , now
you'll wonder..
Ok,. Some time ago I got this link to a "download" site, from my god
friend; Joe Hemmer(maybe some of you'll know Joe(?)). (Later on I've got
plenty of directions to this site..)
The link I'll give you, is about(I'll think); a pilot's salute to an
outgoing aircraft, in this case a Dassault Mirage III S.
This is a video made by some "wild rebels-" flying the Mirage Fighter in
the Alps (just like my homeplace).
You'll know, when an aircraft is done - it's finished(.), have got all
the
modifications, being tuned- then, -it's outsource....
I've seen this video numerous of times, don't know why..
Before you'll jump to the link, warning, warning, this file is very
large,
36 Mbytes!!
If you do not have the bandwidth(it will take forever- to download),
have
a copy from a friend, It's worth all the struggle...
Here's the link:
http://www.canardzone.com/content/JetFlightInMountains.wmv
Don't know how many times I've been w.. this little record.
When you (hopefully)- is enjoying this flight, I'm on the way to
Thailand...
Happy Holidays to everyone.
Torgeir..
PS:
Now youll tell me; is there any similarity between a Kitfox and a
fighter..(?) (Sure -sure, plenty, but)..
Come on, -explain the similarity..
Ill be back in three week....
By the way, here's the actual plane (the leader) from another view (hope
this work).
http://images.airliners.net/open.file?id=355549&WxsIERv=Qnffnhyg%20Zvent
r%20VVV%20F&WdsYXMg=Fjvgmreynaq%20-%20Nve%20Sbepr&QtODMg=Jnqqvatgba%20%2
8JGA%20%2F%20RTKJ%29&ERDLTkt=HX%20-%20Ratynaq&ktODMp=Whar%2017%2C%201993
&BP=0&WNEb25u=Wbua%20Uvttvaf%20-%20NveGrnzVzntrf&xsIERvdWdsY=W-2308&MgTU
QtODMgKE=Fjvff%20NS%20Zventr%20VVV%20ernql%20sbe%20n%20NPZV%20zvffvba&YX
MgTUQtODMgKERD=1383&NEb25uZWxs=2003-05-22%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dc
jdg=998&static=yes&width=1024&height=749&sok=JURER%20%20%28cubgb_qngr%20
%20%3D%20%27Whar%2017%2C%201993%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&
photo_nr=3&prev_id=510712&next_id=355548
All of the above belongs to the link.
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| Subject: | Re: From the other side. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
I have got to get me one of those . Awsome vid thanks for sharing .
John Perry
sw wind blowin no water flatland Kansas America
Kitfox 2 N718PD
-------Original Message-------
From: Torgeir Mortensen
Subject: Kitfox-List: From the other side.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Hi, Kitfox Friends,
Very -very quiet, -on the list, right.
Well, here's something, you'll know....and will -remember for a long
time...I'll hope :) ..
This time, I'll like to show you a different side(?)(-from this side of
the pound).
This is about the similarity of a Kitfox and a Fighter... He., he , now
you'll wonder..
Ok,. Some time ago I got this link to a "download" site, from my god
friend; Joe Hemmer(maybe some of you'll know Joe(?)). (Later on I've got
plenty of directions to this site..)
The link I'll give you, is about(I'll think); a pilot's salute to an
outgoing aircraft, in this case a Dassault Mirage III S.
This is a video made by some "wild rebels-" flying the Mirage Fighter in
the Alps (just like my homeplace).
You'll know, when an aircraft is done - it's finished(.), have got all the
modifications, being tuned- then, -it's outsource....
I've seen this video numerous of times, don't know why..
Before you'll jump to the link, warning, warning, this file is very large,
36 Mbytes!!
If you do not have the bandwidth(it will take forever- to download), have
a copy from a friend, It's worth all the struggle...
Here's the link:
http://www.canardzone.com/content/JetFlightInMountains.wmv
Don't know how many times I've been w.. this little record.
When you (hopefully)- is enjoying this flight, I'm on the way to
Thailand...
Happy Holidays to everyone.
Torgeir..
PS:
Now youll tell me; is there any similarity between a Kitfox and a
fighter..(?) (Sure -sure, plenty, but)..
Come on, -explain the similarity..
Ill be back in three week....
By the way, here's the actual plane (the leader) from another view (hope
this work).
http://images.airliners.net/open
file?id355549&WxsIERvQnffnhyg%20Zventr%20VVV%20F&WdsYXMgFjvgmreynaq%20-%20
ve%20Sbepr&QtODMgJnqqvatgba%20%28JGA%20%2F%20RTKJ%29&ERDLTktHX%20-%20Ratyna
&ktODMpWhar%2017%2C%201993&BP0&WNEb25uWbua%20Uvttvaf%20-%20NveGrnzVzntrf&x
IERvdWdsYW-2308&MgTUQtODMgKEFjvff%20NS%20Zventr%20VVV%20ernql%20sbe%20n%20N
ZV%20zvffvba&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD1383&NEb25uZWxs2003-05-22%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9d
CE&O89Dcjdg998&staticyes&width1024&height749&sokJURER%20%20%28cubgb_qng
%20%20%3D%20%27Whar%2017%2C%201993%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&ph
to_nr3&prev_id510712&next_id355548
All of the above belongs to the link.
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| Subject: | Re: From the other side. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Torgeir Mortensen wrote:
> When you (hopefully)- is enjoying this flight, I'm on the way to
> Thailand...
Thanks Torgeir but ... just like for "Pell City run.wmv" I can only hear the
sound and the screen remains black. I guess that's the price I have to pay to
work on a Macintosh, using a Netscape browser. :-(
Have a nice holiday in Thailand!
Michel
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