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1. 04:16 AM - HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion (Paul Seehafer)
2. 04:40 AM - SV: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion (Michel Verheughe)
3. 05:41 AM - Re: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion (Paul Seehafer)
4. 06:47 AM - SV: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion (Michel Verheughe)
5. 07:33 AM - IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape (Paul Seehafer)
6. 07:50 AM - Re: SV: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion (ron schick)
7. 07:50 AM - Re: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape (Jimmie Blackwell)
8. 08:15 AM - headset advice (Mike Ford)
9. 08:31 AM - Re: headset advice (Cloughley, Bill)
10. 09:09 AM - Re: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape (jdmcbean)
11. 09:29 AM - Re: headset advice (jdmcbean)
12. 10:04 AM - Re: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape (Paul Seehafer)
13. 10:16 AM - Re: headset advice (Brian E. O'Neil)
14. 10:18 AM - Re: SV: [Off-topic] One Six Right MUSIC (Lynn Matteson)
15. 10:45 AM - Re: headset advice (jdmcbean)
16. 11:40 AM - Re: [Off-topic] One Six Right (Richard Hutson)
17. 11:50 AM - Re: [Off-topic] One Six Right (jdmcbean)
18. 03:53 PM - Re: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion (Bruce Harrington)
19. 03:59 PM - Re: headset advice (Marco Menezes)
20. 04:10 PM - Re: headset advice (Roger Standley)
21. 05:05 PM - Re: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape (Jimmie Blackwell)
22. 05:55 PM - Re: SV: [Off-topic] One Six Right MUSIC (Jim Burke)
23. 06:32 PM - Re: headset advice (Fred Shiple)
24. 08:10 PM - Re: Selling my fox (Rick)
25. 08:10 PM - Re: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion (Andrew Matthaey)
26. 08:40 PM - Re: headset advice (Andy Fultz)
27. 09:31 PM - Re: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion (Bruce Harrington)
28. 09:38 PM - Re: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion (jdmcbean)
29. 10:02 PM - Re: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion - fluff (Bruce Harrington)
30. 10:19 PM - Re: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion - fluff (jdmcbean)
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| Subject: | HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
All,
Just finished looking at the HKS engine conversion that Green Sky offers for
the Kitfox. I've always wondered about this engine being a good replacement
for the 582, and apparently it is. And Green Sky is offering details on the
install, the engine, and components as needed. Here's the link
http://www.greenskyadventures.com/EnginePricing/HKS/kitfox/kitfox_web_brochure.htm
For any of you with the two-stroke blues....
Paul Seehafer
Central Wisconsin
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| Subject: | HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Paul Seehafer [av8rps@tznet.com]
> Just finished looking at the HKS engine conversion that Green Sky offers for
> the Kitfox.
I also looked at that engine when wanting to replace my 582, Paul. But two things
made me go for the Jabiru. First, I understand the HKS has a TBO of only 500
hours, vs. 2,000 for the Jabiru. Then I was told that the HKS will deliver less
power (climb rate, cruise speed) than the 582. I am not sure about the latter,
only a heresay.
I know that the HKS is installed, here in Norway, on a Norwegian prototype seaplane
called Omsider. I have seen it flying and it looks fine. I also know that
the HKS is also installed on the Xair, a lighter than Kitfox aircraft, with success.
But the Xair is a no-cowling overhead tractor engine.
I am very pleased with my Jabiru but I'd gladly hear from other engines.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Michel,
I really don't know much about the HKS engine other than occassionally
seeing one on an airplane or two, and what I read. But since the purpose of
this forum is to share information about our airplanes, I thought it was
good stuff to let everyone know about. I personally like the 912, but one
always should keep his options open.
I appreciate your comments in regards to the HKS and the Jabiru. For the
just-getting-started guys any good engine information is valuable in helping
them to decide what engine to use.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>> From: Paul Seehafer [av8rps@tznet.com]
>> Just finished looking at the HKS engine conversion that Green Sky offers
>> for
>> the Kitfox.
>
> I also looked at that engine when wanting to replace my 582, Paul. But two
> things made me go for the Jabiru. First, I understand the HKS has a TBO of
> only 500 hours, vs. 2,000 for the Jabiru. Then I was told that the HKS
> will deliver less power (climb rate, cruise speed) than the 582. I am not
> sure about the latter, only a heresay.
> I know that the HKS is installed, here in Norway, on a Norwegian prototype
> seaplane called Omsider. I have seen it flying and it looks fine. I also
> know that the HKS is also installed on the Xair, a lighter than Kitfox
> aircraft, with success. But the Xair is a no-cowling overhead tractor
> engine.
>
> I am very pleased with my Jabiru but I'd gladly hear from other engines.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
>
>
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| Subject: | HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Paul Seehafer [av8rps@tznet.com]
> But since the purpose of
> this forum is to share information about our airplanes, I thought it was
> good stuff to let everyone know about.
Absolutely, Paul! Unlike the Jabiru Engine list where it is very unpopular to talk
about anything but Jabiru, this list is open to any discussion about any engine.
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
All,
Any of you guys that are running IVO props (particulary the in flight
adjustable) have any idea how to keep the metal leading edges from cracking
shortly after you install them? Has anyone used plastic tape on theirs?
Just need some input on others experience. The stainless leading edges seem
to go bad within hours of installation. There must be a better way.
I'm thinking that the answer might be some plastic tape like they use on
helicopter blades in desert operations where they erode from sand?
Paul Seehafer
Central Wisconsin
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| Subject: | HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Glad ta hear that! There are at least three of us planting Volkswagon seeds
in our planes right now. Ron NB Ore.
do not archive
>
> > From: Paul Seehafer [av8rps@tznet.com]
> > But since the purpose of
> > this forum is to share information about our airplanes,
>
>Absolutely, Paul! Unlike the Jabiru Engine list where it is very unpopular
>to talk about anything but Jabiru, this list is open to any discussion
>about any engine.
>
>Cheers,
>Michel
>
>do not archive
>
>
Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | Re: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
I am running a ground adjustable on a 912 UL. Very pleased with the prop,
but would like to stop the wrinkling of the stainless steel tape on the
leading edge. I am open to any suggestions.
Jimmie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>
> All,
>
> Any of you guys that are running IVO props (particulary the in flight
> adjustable) have any idea how to keep the metal leading edges from
cracking
> shortly after you install them? Has anyone used plastic tape on theirs?
> Just need some input on others experience. The stainless leading edges
seem
> to go bad within hours of installation. There must be a better way.
>
> I'm thinking that the answer might be some plastic tape like they use on
> helicopter blades in desert operations where they erode from sand?
>
> Paul Seehafer
> Central Wisconsin
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Ford <fordm2003@yahoo.com>
Does anyone have advice on picking out a headset?
I'd like to do it on a budget, but I don't want to buy
junk that I'll want to replace in a few months either.
I haven't been able to find any real aircraft headset
reviews.
I just purchased a model IV Speedster, but when it
gets here it will not have the headsets included. The
hedset will need two jacks, which seems standard on GA
plane headsets.
Does anyone know where I can find general info on
headset as well? For instance I don't know what the
difference is between the dual jacks on GA planes and
the single jack that I have on my ultralight headset.
Thanks for any reply's!
Mike
Wausau, WI
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cloughley, Bill" <BCloughl@ciena.com>
Hi Mike,
I've had very good experience with Lightspeed Active Noise reduction
headsets, first with a 15xl, and for the last year with a 30 3G. The 3G
is a big improvement over the 15 xl. The Lightspeeds are very
comfortable to wear and do a good job keeping out the noise. I use them
in a Citabria, which is relatively noisy inside. It's my understanding
that the Bose ANR headset is the best -- quietest -- but it is the most
expensive as well.
I think the two jacks are standard on GA planes.
Hope this helps,
Bill
70 Citabria GCBC (Flying)
Kitfox Model I - 582 (Building)
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| Subject: | IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
I haven't said anything just yet.. I have been testing a different leading
edge on the in-flight adjustable IVO. So far I have been very pleased.. no
wrinkling or splitting.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jimmie Blackwell
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
I am running a ground adjustable on a 912 UL. Very pleased with the prop,
but would like to stop the wrinkling of the stainless steel tape on the
leading edge. I am open to any suggestions.
Jimmie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>
> All,
>
> Any of you guys that are running IVO props (particulary the in flight
> adjustable) have any idea how to keep the metal leading edges from
cracking
> shortly after you install them? Has anyone used plastic tape on theirs?
> Just need some input on others experience. The stainless leading edges
seem
> to go bad within hours of installation. There must be a better way.
>
> I'm thinking that the answer might be some plastic tape like they use on
> helicopter blades in desert operations where they erode from sand?
>
> Paul Seehafer
> Central Wisconsin
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Mike,
The single jack vs the dual jack is typically helicopter vs aircraft.
You
will find the dual jack more common. Headsets become a personal choice.
Bose are fantastic headsets that are very pricy.. David Clarks (DC's) have
always been an excellent headset. Light Speed is a popular choice. DRE-6000
is what I sell and use in our aircraft.
If you're looking for a new headset.. spend a little more and go with the
noise canceling headsets.. it is worth it. I choose the DRE's because:
They were comfortable and the Noise canceling was excellent. For $300 they
were tough to beat.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mike Ford
Subject: Kitfox-List: headset advice
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Ford <fordm2003@yahoo.com>
Does anyone have advice on picking out a headset?
I'd like to do it on a budget, but I don't want to buy
junk that I'll want to replace in a few months either.
I haven't been able to find any real aircraft headset
reviews.
I just purchased a model IV Speedster, but when it
gets here it will not have the headsets included. The
hedset will need two jacks, which seems standard on GA
plane headsets.
Does anyone know where I can find general info on
headset as well? For instance I don't know what the
difference is between the dual jacks on GA planes and
the single jack that I have on my ultralight headset.
Thanks for any reply's!
Mike
Wausau, WI
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| Subject: | Re: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Ok John, what's it going to cost me to be your guinnea pig? Sincerely, I
would be happy to be part of your test results. I expect to be flying my
airplane within two weeks after AirVenture (I run the seaplane base for the
EAA and have about two full time jobs right now, not including my regular
life :-)
Paul Seehafer
----- Original Message -----
From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
> I haven't said anything just yet.. I have been testing a different leading
> edge on the in-flight adjustable IVO. So far I have been very pleased..
> no
> wrinkling or splitting.
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jimmie
> Blackwell
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
> <jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
> I am running a ground adjustable on a 912 UL. Very pleased with the prop,
> but would like to stop the wrinkling of the stainless steel tape on the
> leading edge. I am open to any suggestions.
>
> Jimmie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Any of you guys that are running IVO props (particulary the in flight
>> adjustable) have any idea how to keep the metal leading edges from
> cracking
>> shortly after you install them? Has anyone used plastic tape on theirs?
>> Just need some input on others experience. The stainless leading edges
> seem
>> to go bad within hours of installation. There must be a better way.
>>
>> I'm thinking that the answer might be some plastic tape like they use on
>> helicopter blades in desert operations where they erode from sand?
>>
>> Paul Seehafer
>> Central Wisconsin
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: headset advice |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brian E. O'Neil" <aviator79@cox.net>
I'm a flight instructor, and I have experience with many headsets.
General advice: Your headset is not a conveniennce item; it is a safety
item. Your headset protects you from long term hearing loss. In my
opinion, aircraft noise is the biggest source of fatigue on long flight,
and limiting it keeps you alert and aware longer. It also allows you to
better hear ATC instructions that could be critical to your safety. So
while you can shop on a budget, you also don't want to skimp. To me
there are two critical aspects to consider when purchasing a headset:
comfort and noise attenuation. Many of the cheaper headsets use a
ridiculous amount of pressure on your head to keep noise out. It may not
feel too bad when you try it on, but you'll feel it after an hour long
flight. Weight is also part of comfort. I wouldn't wear a headset that
weighed more than about 15 ounces. As far as noise attenuation goes, I
would recommend spending the money for an active cancelling headset.
They are expensive, but you will not regret spending the extra money.
I'll give a brief review of the most popular headsets that I've used.
David Clark H10-13.4: David Clark is the gold standard for passive
attenuating headsets. The H10-13.4 is their most popular. They make a
quality product that acheives an acceptable amount of noise attenuation
in a light and comfortable headset. If you decide NOT to get an active
cancelling set, this is the one I'd recommend. I have not heard terribly
good things about the DC active cancelling (ANR) headsets. They
basically just crammed an ANR system into their existing sets, and it
apparently it doesn't work nearly as well as the headsets that are
designed specifically for ANR technology. I haven't used the DC ANR
sets, so feel free to take one for a test flight. Discount retailers
sell the passive H10-13.4 for about $270.
cheap DC knockoffs: There are many many headsets that look like David
Clarks with different colored earcups. They range in price from
$89-$200. You get what you pay for with these. I use a Softcomm $100
headset as a spare and while it peforms as advertised, it is NOT
suitable for long flights or heavy use. The hardware is not the same
quality as David Clark, and you will find they clamp your head pretty
tight. With heavy use, some of the screws or other hardware will
eventually fall out, and you'll have to replace them to have a working
headset. these work great as spares of for an OCCAISIONAL passenger. I
would not recommend them for your daily use.
The Bose: The best headset money can buy is unquestionably the Bose
Aviation Heaset X. It is the only aviation headset they sell. It is
extremely small, light and undoubtedly the most comfortable headset
there is. Its ANR system is the best out there, but bring spare
batteries becasue its passive attenuation is not that great. This isn't
a flaw; this headset was just not designed to be a passive headset. Its
only drawback is the $1000 pricetag. I received mine as a graduation
present, and after having put several hundred hours on it, I can
honestly say that if I could go back and buy only one headset when I was
a student pilot, I wouldn't hesitate to drop a grand on this headset.
Compared to other headsets, it's expensive. Compared to the other costs
of flying, it's a bargain.
Lightspeed: I have owned a 15 and a 20XL. These were my first forays
into ANR. Lightspeed designed their headsets exclusively for ANR. The
noise cancelling is really good. In fact, it is almost as good as the
Bose. They are quite comfortable, although I find that in the Arizona
heat, the earseals made me sweat a lot. One thing about these heasets is
they are HUGE. Put one of these on and look in the mirror. They easily
double the width of your noggin. This isn't any particular concern
unless you are in a tight cockpit. If the pilot and passenger of a C-152
both wear one, they will bang the earcups together a few times. My
personal experience with lightspeed is that the construction is too
cheap to stand up to daily use. when you put the headset on, you can
hear the plastic parts squeek together. Two screws fell out of one
rendering it useless and the other one had a speaker quit. If you jiggle
the wire around, you can get it to work, but move your head too fast and
it'll go off again. I still have the 20XL, but it's out of warranty, and
I don't want to deal with sending it in for repair.
Bottom line: If you can bring yourself to do it, you will not regret
spending the money on a Bose when you look back on the decision a few
years from now. If you just can't spend that much, (and believe me, I
wouldn't have before I owned one.) try to at least get a quality ANR
headset. The David Clarks might be better than what I've heard. I'd try
them out and compare them to the lightspeeds. Otherwise, the lightspeed
is a good headset; just handle them gently. If you aren't going to
spring for ANR, get the David Clarks. They will last forever, and if you
decide to upgrade, you'll have a great headset for your passengers.
Mike Ford wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Ford <fordm2003@yahoo.com>
>
>Does anyone have advice on picking out a headset?
>
>I'd like to do it on a budget, but I don't want to buy
>junk that I'll want to replace in a few months either.
>
>I haven't been able to find any real aircraft headset
>reviews.
>
>I just purchased a model IV Speedster, but when it
>gets here it will not have the headsets included. The
>hedset will need two jacks, which seems standard on GA
>plane headsets.
>
>Does anyone know where I can find general info on
>headset as well? For instance I don't know what the
>difference is between the dual jacks on GA planes and
>the single jack that I have on my ultralight headset.
>
>Thanks for any reply's!
>Mike
>Wausau, WI
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: [Off-topic] One Six Right MUSIC |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Thanks a bunch for the link, Gary. Like Don, that music affects me too.
Lynn
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On Tuesday, July 19, 2005, at 03:28 PM, kitfoxjunky wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
> <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>
> Enya..Only Time
>
> Here is a link
>
> http://www.mshepp.com/onlytime.htm
>
>
> Gary Walsh
> C-GOOT
> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
> do not archive
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Mike,
Hear is something else that may help... From Aviation consumer magazine
December 2000. I think the cost should have been used as a reference
rather then a scoring area because it skews the data. The other info is
interesting...
http://www.drecomm.com/Aviation%20Consumer%20ANR%20Evaluation1.htm
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: headset advice
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Mike,
The single jack vs the dual jack is typically helicopter vs
aircraft. You
will find the dual jack more common. Headsets become a personal choice.
Bose are fantastic headsets that are very pricy.. David Clarks (DC's) have
always been an excellent headset. Light Speed is a popular choice. DRE-6000
is what I sell and use in our aircraft.
If you're looking for a new headset.. spend a little more and go with the
noise canceling headsets.. it is worth it. I choose the DRE's because:
They were comfortable and the Noise canceling was excellent. For $300 they
were tough to beat.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mike Ford
Subject: Kitfox-List: headset advice
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Ford <fordm2003@yahoo.com>
Does anyone have advice on picking out a headset?
I'd like to do it on a budget, but I don't want to buy
junk that I'll want to replace in a few months either.
I haven't been able to find any real aircraft headset
reviews.
I just purchased a model IV Speedster, but when it
gets here it will not have the headsets included. The
hedset will need two jacks, which seems standard on GA
plane headsets.
Does anyone know where I can find general info on
headset as well? For instance I don't know what the
difference is between the dual jacks on GA planes and
the single jack that I have on my ultralight headset.
Thanks for any reply's!
Mike
Wausau, WI
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| Subject: | Re: [Off-topic] One Six Right |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
Michel, this is a Documentary on Van Nuys airport. If you go to Michel link
and click on the link at the bottom left, there is another 5 minute trailer
of this movie. It was equally as goods as Michel's.
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Guys, I don't know if you have seen this:
>
> http://www.onesixright.com/video/aerials.html
>
> I don't know what's the story but ... wow, great filming! I loved the
> Dakota making a two-points landing and the swift rudder control after
> touch-down. Big bird, but still a taildragger and a technique similar to
> our Kitfoxes.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | [Off-topic] One Six Right |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
There is also a link to one six right from www.sportplanellc.com as well.
There is another issue regarding Lee Bottom Flying Field.. They need some
help.
Do not archive
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Hutson
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: [Off-topic] One Six Right
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson"
<rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
Michel, this is a Documentary on Van Nuys airport. If you go to Michel link
and click on the link at the bottom left, there is another 5 minute trailer
of this movie. It was equally as goods as Michel's.
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Guys, I don't know if you have seen this:
>
> http://www.onesixright.com/video/aerials.html
>
> I don't know what's the story but ... wow, great filming! I loved the
> Dakota making a two-points landing and the swift rudder control after
> touch-down. Big bird, but still a taildragger and a technique similar to
> our Kitfoxes.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
Hi Michel,
Bear in mind that this list is not run by SkyStar, the Kitfox kit company,
so there's quite a bit of leeway in topics. Also, back in the 1990s the
NSI group had to move out due to discussion problems, then allowed back
years later. And this list is about Kitfox aircraft, so there may not be
much tolerance for pushing other kits or aircraft.
The Jabiru Engine list is for just that, users of or people interested in
the Jabiru engines.
Cheers,
bh
> Absolutely, Paul! Unlike the Jabiru Engine list where it is very unpopular
> to talk about anything but Jabiru, this list is open to any discussion
> about any engine.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: headset advice |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Mike -
Don't know if it's still available but I bought a Lightspeed x-country ANR set
a few years ago, new for under $200. That's a budget price for a set then rated
as a "best value" by Aviation Consumer. I've used it alot and am pleased with
the performance for the price.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
Mike Ford <fordm2003@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Ford
Does anyone have advice on picking out a headset?
I'd like to do it on a budget, but I don't want to buy
junk that I'll want to replace in a few months either.
I haven't been able to find any real aircraft headset
reviews.
I just purchased a model IV Speedster, but when it
gets here it will not have the headsets included. The
hedset will need two jacks, which seems standard on GA
plane headsets.
Does anyone know where I can find general info on
headset as well? For instance I don't know what the
difference is between the dual jacks on GA planes and
the single jack that I have on my ultralight headset.
Thanks for any reply's!
Mike
Wausau, WI
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| Subject: | Re: headset advice |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger Standley" <taildragon@msn.com>
What do you all know about "wireless" headsets? I am forever becoming tangled in
those wires!
----- Original Message -----
From: jdmcbean<mailto:jdmcbean@cableone.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: headset advice
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net<mailto:jdmcbean@cableone.net>>
Mike,
Hear is something else that may help... From Aviation consumer magazine
December 2000. I think the cost should have been used as a reference
rather then a scoring area because it skews the data. The other info is
interesting...
http://www.drecomm.com/Aviation%20Consumer%20ANR%20Evaluation1.htm<http://www.drecomm.com/Aviation%20Consumer%20ANR%20Evaluation1.htm>
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com<http://www.sportplanellc.com/>
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jdmcbean
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: headset advice
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net<mailto:jdmcbean@cableone.net>>
Mike,
The single jack vs the dual jack is typically helicopter vs
aircraft. You
will find the dual jack more common. Headsets become a personal choice.
Bose are fantastic headsets that are very pricy.. David Clarks (DC's) have
always been an excellent headset. Light Speed is a popular choice. DRE-6000
is what I sell and use in our aircraft.
If you're looking for a new headset.. spend a little more and go with the
noise canceling headsets.. it is worth it. I choose the DRE's because:
They were comfortable and the Noise canceling was excellent. For $300 they
were tough to beat.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com<http://www.sportplanellc.com/>
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mike Ford
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: headset advice
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Ford <fordm2003@yahoo.com<mailto:fordm2003@yahoo.com>>
Does anyone have advice on picking out a headset?
I'd like to do it on a budget, but I don't want to buy
junk that I'll want to replace in a few months either.
I haven't been able to find any real aircraft headset
reviews.
I just purchased a model IV Speedster, but when it
gets here it will not have the headsets included. The
hedset will need two jacks, which seems standard on GA
plane headsets.
Does anyone know where I can find general info on
headset as well? For instance I don't know what the
difference is between the dual jacks on GA planes and
the single jack that I have on my ultralight headset.
Thanks for any reply's!
Mike
Wausau, WI
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| Subject: | Re: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
John
With that said where can I get some of the material your are using?
Jimmie
----- Original Message -----
From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
> I haven't said anything just yet.. I have been testing a different leading
> edge on the in-flight adjustable IVO. So far I have been very pleased..
no
> wrinkling or splitting.
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jimmie
Blackwell
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
<jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
> I am running a ground adjustable on a 912 UL. Very pleased with the prop,
> but would like to stop the wrinkling of the stainless steel tape on the
> leading edge. I am open to any suggestions.
>
> Jimmie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: IVO Prop Leading edge protective tape
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Any of you guys that are running IVO props (particulary the in flight
> > adjustable) have any idea how to keep the metal leading edges from
> cracking
> > shortly after you install them? Has anyone used plastic tape on theirs?
> > Just need some input on others experience. The stainless leading edges
> seem
> > to go bad within hours of installation. There must be a better way.
> >
> > I'm thinking that the answer might be some plastic tape like they use on
> > helicopter blades in desert operations where they erode from sand?
> >
> > Paul Seehafer
> > Central Wisconsin
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: [Off-topic] One Six Right MUSIC |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
Don, I made a flying video last fall for our local EAA chapter and used Enya
music exclusively in the background. If you will e-mail me your address
offline I would be happy to send you a copy. The only restrictions is, you
will need a DVD player that will play homespun DVDs.
> Gary,
> Thanks for that link. For some reason, that song does things to my
> innards.
>
> Do Not Archive
> Don Smythe
> Classic IV W/ 582
>> Enya..Only Time
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| Subject: | Re: headset advice |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
Mike,
Brian has supplied an excellent review. If you get
around a group of higher time GA pilots, all of them
will have significant hearing loss. As a physician, I
know that the damage is cumulative and once the
hearing loss is evident it's too late to recover. The
only effective strategy is too prevent the loss in the
first place. Protect your hearing with the best ANR
headphones you can find. I've used Bose for the past
15 years and would use nothing else. They're
expensive, but you only have one pair of ears.
Fred
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Howard, so sorry to hear of the forced sale. Hope your luck changes or at
least you get what your asking. Take care.
Rick N656T
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Howard Firm
Subject: Kitfox-List: Selling my fox
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
Due to a bad and getting worse financial situation, My wife and I decided
that we need to sell our Fox. This has been a tough decision to make, but it
comes down to the last thing I own that is worth anything...I just need to
bail myself out and start over.
I wanted to offer it here first, but I will be soon listing it on
barnstormers, then Ebay as a last resort.
Here is what I have;
Kitfox model 5 with a NSI Turbo & Warp Drive with CAP
New vacuum pump
Grove gear & tailspring
LP windshield, bubble doors with airvents
cabin heater, duel fan
New Apollo SL40 VHF Comm
New Garmin GTX 320A Transponder professionally wired and installed
RC Allen IFR Gyro's
Here are two pictures;
http://home.mchsi.com/~pianome2/leftside.jpg
http://home.mchsi.com/~pianome2/panel4.jpg
The engine is currently off of the plane. It is ready to be shipped to NSI
for a complete overhaul and the cost is included in the price.
Asking $34,500
I can answer any questions you may have, also I can supply any pictures you
may want.
E-mail me or call me at (218) 749-4659 most evenings I'm home.
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
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| Subject: | Re: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Alright guys - I hate to be the one to say this (is anybody else thinking
it?), but I am finding it hard to understand why lister's here are trying to
scare away any topic not strictly Kitfox...I agree, this is a kitfox list,
and should therefore be focused primarily on these great birds - BUT we all
have boat-loads to learn, and not allowing something like "jabiru talk" here
is taking away a lot from that. Come on guys, really...we're better than
that.
Andrew
>From: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion
>Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:51:16 -0700
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
>
>Hi Michel,
>
>Bear in mind that this list is not run by SkyStar, the Kitfox kit company,
>so there's quite a bit of leeway in topics. Also, back in the 1990s the
>NSI group had to move out due to discussion problems, then allowed back
>years later. And this list is about Kitfox aircraft, so there may not be
>much tolerance for pushing other kits or aircraft.
>
>The Jabiru Engine list is for just that, users of or people interested in
>the Jabiru engines.
>
>Cheers,
>bh
>
> > Absolutely, Paul! Unlike the Jabiru Engine list where it is very
>unpopular
> > to talk about anything but Jabiru, this list is open to any discussion
> > about any engine.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michel
> >
> > do not archive
>
>
http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy Fultz" <fultz@trip.net>
Brian,
E-mail me at fultz@trip.net if you would be interested in getting rid of
the 20XL. I like tinkering with broke headsets. Sometimes I'm successful
and sometimes I'm not.
Andy F.
I still have the 20XL, but it's out of warranty, and
I don't want to deal with sending it in for repair.
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| Subject: | Re: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
Hi Andrew,
Maybe I missed something. Who complained about Jabiru talk on this list?
Michel commented that talk about non-jabiru engines on the Jabiru Engines
list was discouraged. Talk about alternate engines is currently ok on the
Kitfox list.
Cheers,
bh
on the list since 1995 or 1996
> Alright guys - I hate to be the one to say this (is anybody else thinking
> it?), but I am finding it hard to understand why lister's here are trying
> to
> scare away any topic not strictly Kitfox...I agree, this is a kitfox list,
> and should therefore be focused primarily on these great birds - BUT we
> all
> have boat-loads to learn, and not allowing something like "jabiru talk"
> here
> is taking away a lot from that. Come on guys, really...we're better than
> that.
>
> Andrew
>>Hi Michel,
>>
>>Bear in mind that this list is not run by SkyStar, the Kitfox kit company,
>>so there's quite a bit of leeway in topics. Also, back in the 1990s the
>>NSI group had to move out due to discussion problems, then allowed back
>>years later. And this list is about Kitfox aircraft, so there may not be
>>much tolerance for pushing other kits or aircraft.
>>
>>The Jabiru Engine list is for just that, users of or people interested in
>>the Jabiru engines.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>bh
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| Subject: | HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Comments from a stinking Sonex driver.... Looks like we'll let anyone on the
list.. LOL :)
Hope things are going well Bruce....
Do not archive
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Harrington
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
Hi Andrew,
Maybe I missed something. Who complained about Jabiru talk on this list?
Michel commented that talk about non-jabiru engines on the Jabiru Engines
list was discouraged. Talk about alternate engines is currently ok on the
Kitfox list.
Cheers,
bh
on the list since 1995 or 1996
> Alright guys - I hate to be the one to say this (is anybody else thinking
> it?), but I am finding it hard to understand why lister's here are trying
> to
> scare away any topic not strictly Kitfox...I agree, this is a kitfox list,
> and should therefore be focused primarily on these great birds - BUT we
> all
> have boat-loads to learn, and not allowing something like "jabiru talk"
> here
> is taking away a lot from that. Come on guys, really...we're better than
> that.
>
> Andrew
>>Hi Michel,
>>
>>Bear in mind that this list is not run by SkyStar, the Kitfox kit company,
>>so there's quite a bit of leeway in topics. Also, back in the 1990s the
>>NSI group had to move out due to discussion problems, then allowed back
>>years later. And this list is about Kitfox aircraft, so there may not be
>>much tolerance for pushing other kits or aircraft.
>>
>>The Jabiru Engine list is for just that, users of or people interested in
>>the Jabiru engines.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>bh
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| Subject: | Re: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion - fluff |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
Hi John,
True, it goes like stink! 197mph GPS ground speed max so far. But not as
much fun as old N194KF touring across eastern Oregon to Caldwell in ground
effect!
Bugs are all fixed and passenger count just hit 11 today - Kitfox 7 driver
from Bend/Sun River.
Cheers,
bh
ex-N194KF, 582ed IV-1200, 800 + hrs
> Comments from a stinking Sonex driver.... Looks like we'll let anyone on
> the
> list.. LOL :)
>
> Hope things are going well Bruce....
>
> Do not archive
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
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| Subject: | HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion - fluff |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
I'll look forward to being another passenger... You must have had Sieberts
over... You get over this way give a shout...
Do not archive
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Harrington
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: HKS (582 replacement) engine conversion - fluff
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
Hi John,
True, it goes like stink! 197mph GPS ground speed max so far. But not as
much fun as old N194KF touring across eastern Oregon to Caldwell in ground
effect!
Bugs are all fixed and passenger count just hit 11 today - Kitfox 7 driver
from Bend/Sun River.
Cheers,
bh
ex-N194KF, 582ed IV-1200, 800 + hrs
> Comments from a stinking Sonex driver.... Looks like we'll let anyone on
> the
> list.. LOL :)
>
> Hope things are going well Bruce....
>
> Do not archive
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
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