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1. 12:17 AM - Re: Flaperons as Trim (Michael Gibbs)
2. 07:02 AM - kitfox-list Alternative Engines - Geo/Suzuki (Bill Smith)
3. 09:27 AM - Re: CRACKED MUFFLER! (RAY Gignac)
4. 09:34 AM - Re: CRACKED MUFFLER! (kitfoxjunky)
5. 10:39 AM - Test-fly your Model 7? (David Creemer)
6. 12:33 PM - Re: matco brake pads (Lynn Matteson)
7. 01:42 PM - Re: first flight (Marco Menezes)
8. 01:55 PM - Re: Flaperons as Trim (Guy Buchanan)
9. 02:27 PM - Fabric vs socks (ron schick)
10. 02:50 PM - Brake pads and rotor's for Kitfox Model I (Clint Bazzill)
11. 03:26 PM - Re: Brake pads and rotor's for Kitfox Model I (Dee Young)
12. 04:23 PM - Re: Brake pads and rotor's for Kitfox Model I (Clint Bazzill)
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperons as Trim |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Guy asks:
>...do I need a manual trim? Should I just use the flaps for trim, or
>is that draggy?
Certainly using flaperons for trim is "tried and true" on the
original Model I - IV Kitfoxes but you'll get better cruise
performance using a real trim system. The flaperons present a rather
large frontal area and can produce considerable drag at cruise
speeds, compared to a trim tab.
Mike G.
N728KF
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| Subject: | kitfox-list Alternative Engines - Geo/Suzuki |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Bill Smith <ocleju@yahoo.com>
Alternative Engines - Geo/Suzuki
If you are interested in alternative engines for
experimental aircraft you are invited to
join the flyGeo_uncensored group and learn about the
fantastic Geo/Suzuki engines used in
aircraft.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlyGeo_uncensored
Both bolt on gearbox and cog belt redrives and all
other aircraft
conversion parts are available for very reasonable
cost. Turbo
versions are available also. Gearbox type redrives for
around US$1750-
The Geo/Suzuki engine uses about half the fuel that
the two stroke
engines use.
The 1.3 litre four cylinder Suzuki engine beats the
Rotax 912 in
power and weight, again both gearbox and belt type
redrives are
available.
The Geo/Suzuki one litre engine weighs a little more
than a Rotax
582, it produces 62 HP normally aspirated but with a
better, flatter
torque curve.
All those advantages plus flying engines with the
hours up to prove
them and last but not lease, far, far cheaper than a
Rotax two or four stroke engine.
One person on the group has over 1000 hours on one
installation.
FlyGeo_uncensored is a very active and helpful group
that is also a fun group and is not
doubt one of the fastest growing aircraft alternative
engine groups.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlyGeo_uncensored
The FlyGeo_uncensored Management
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| Subject: | Re: CRACKED MUFFLER! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com>
Been there done that! was not a skystar modification problem, my break was on
the muffler itself below the weld.
----- Original Message -----
From: PWilson<mailto:pwilson@climber.org>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: CRACKED MUFFLER!
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson <pwilson@climber.org<mailto:pwilson@climber.org>>
There is a skystar bulletin that says to add a bracket from the
pipe to the muffler.
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: CRACKED MUFFLER! |
Serialize complete at 08/09/2005 12:34:00 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
My old exhaust, the one that cracked several times, had the modification
recommended in the Skystar bulletin. One thing to keep an eye on is the
sleeve inside the muffler. You can see it thru the holes in the muffler
when the header pipes are removed. This sleeve goes from the exhaust pipe
to the other side of the muffler...and fits inside a circular ring that
acts as a support bracket. If the sleeve ( which is a thin metal tube
with hundreds of perforations ) deteriorates and breaks then there is no
support for the exhaust pipe other than where it exits the muffler. That
condition usually causes a crack in the muffler where the exhaust pipe
exists.
Gary Walsh
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson <pwilson@climber.org>
There is a skystar bulletin that says to add a bracket from the
pipe to the muffler.
Paul
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| Subject: | Test-fly your Model 7? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: David Creemer <david@zachary.com>
Hi Folks-
I've been lurking here on the list for a while as I consider
purchasing a Kitfox Model 7. I've been flying for 6 years, am
instrument rated (though not current), with most of my time in
Pipers. I would very much appreciate the ability to fly with someone
to get a feel for the plane. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area
(California), though am occasionally in Dallas, TX. If you can spare
a couple hours to go flying with me, I would be much obliged!
Thanks & regards,
-- David
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| Subject: | Re: matco brake pads |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
I'd like the numbers too, for future use...thanks a lot.
Lynn
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On Monday, August 8, 2005, at 11:04 AM, John Perry wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
>
> I have the same brakes and wheels ,Dont keep me hangin lol . I need the
> number for them . I like to have brakes helps to stop lol .
> Thanks very much
> Fly safe fly low fly slow
> John Perry
> Kitfox 2 N718PD
> Serial # 718
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Paul Peerenboom
> Date: 08/08/05 09:30:49
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: matco brake pads
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Peerenboom"
> <ppeerenbo@charter.net>
>
> I got new brake pads at Oshkosh from Matco last week. I have a 93
> Model IV
> with the 8 inch rims. If this is yours I can get you that number. The
> matco
> people were very good they sold me the new pad which are now semi
> metallic
> not the old organic pads. I nave not installed them yet but I am told
> there
> much better. Cars converted years ago.
>
>
> Paul N102DG
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: matco brake pads
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
>>
>> Hello fellow flyers , does anyone have the part number for the brake
>> pads
>> for the matco brakes or the rapco pad number to cross them to ?.
>> I really need to replace mine and am havign trouble finding the part
>> number
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> John Perry
>> Kitfox 2 N718PD
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Thanks Bill. Maybe I'll see you at Cadillac (KCAD) fly-in and pancake breakfast
this month.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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wwillyard@aol.com wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: wwillyard@aol.com
Congratulations Marco. It's nice to hear about another Kitfox in the neighborhood.
Bill Willyard
Classic IV, 912, Grand Rapids, Michigan
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>After 16 years in the building, Model 2 s/n 374 (Rotax 582) flew for the first
>time today! Following a very short takeoff roll, we circled the patch at Big
>Rapids, Michigan for about .7 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperons as Trim |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Mike,
Thanks. That's what I expected, since the flaperon moment arm is
pretty short. I guess I'll have to keep working on the trim system. Does
anybody have a good idea on a nice, small, lever actuator?
Thanks,
Guy
At 12:15 AM 8/9/2005, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
>
>Guy asks:
>
> >...do I need a manual trim? Should I just use the flaps for trim, or
> >is that draggy?
>
>Certainly using flaperons for trim is "tried and true" on the
>original Model I - IV Kitfoxes but you'll get better cruise
>performance using a real trim system. The flaperons present a rather
>large frontal area and can produce considerable drag at cruise
>speeds, compared to a trim tab.
>
>Mike G.
>N728KF
>
>
Guy
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Thanks for all of the suggestions and experiances. It sounds as though the
fabric is not much more involved than the socks, so I am going to order it
soon. I hope to give Skystar the business as it may help a little. I have a
red powdercoat fuselage so I am thinking a white base with a fade to red on
the leading edges. Simple paint scheme and less fading than pure red. Thanks
again for the encouragement. Ron NB Ore.
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| Subject: | Brake pads and rotor's for Kitfox Model I |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
Does anyone have these parts for a Model I Kitfox. Clint
Contact me offline or call (650) 712-1802 for a friends airplane
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| Subject: | Re: Brake pads and rotor's for Kitfox Model I |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
What parts do you need Clint?
----- Original Message -----
From: Clint Bazzill<mailto:clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 3:49 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Brake pads and rotor's for Kitfox Model I
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com<mailto:clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>>
Does anyone have these parts for a Model I Kitfox. Clint
Contact me offline or call (650) 712-1802 for a friends airplane
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| Subject: | Re: Brake pads and rotor's for Kitfox Model I |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
I think that he has a bad rotor, also needs pads. Clint
From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Brake pads and rotor's for Kitfox Model I
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
What parts do you need Clint?
----- Original Message -----
From: Clint Bazzill<mailto:clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 3:49 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Brake pads and rotor's for Kitfox Model I
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill"
<clint_bazzill@hotmail.com<mailto:clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>>
Does anyone have these parts for a Model I Kitfox. Clint
Contact me offline or call (650) 712-1802 for a friends airplane
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