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     1. 12:29 AM - SV: SV: Re: sight gauges (Michel Verheughe)
     2. 01:22 AM - Re: Mike do you have a 912 ()
     3. 04:26 AM - Kitfox IV Throttle Linkage Replacement (kitfoxjunky)
     4. 07:14 AM - Re: SV: Re: sight gauges (Lowell Fitt)
     5. 07:26 AM - Re: Kitfox IV Throttle Linkage Replacement (Paul Seehafer)
     6. 08:34 AM - Suggestions for Cracked Sight Gauge Re: SV: Re: (owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com)
     7. 09:42 AM - Re: fuel sight (jdmcbean)
     8. 10:11 AM - Re: Kitfox IV Throttle Linkage Replacement (jdmcbean)
     9. 10:24 AM - Re: Re: fuel sight (owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com)
    10. 11:37 AM - Sight guage (Aerobatics@aol.com)
    11. 11:46 AM - Re: Re: fuel sight (Jimmie Blackwell)
    12. 12:01 PM - Re: SV: Re: sight gauges (Michel Verheughe)
    13. 12:02 PM - Re: Sight guage (jdmcbean)
    14. 12:32 PM - Re: Kitfox IV Throttle Linkage Replacement (kitfoxjunky)
    15. 04:27 PM - Re: Mike do you have a 912 (randy bortree)
    16. 05:09 PM - Re: SV: SV: Re: sight gauges (James Shumaker)
    17. 05:26 PM - Re: Mike do you have a 912 (Dee Young)
    18. 07:59 PM - Re: Mike do you have a 912 (John Perry)
    19. 08:00 PM - Re: Mike do you have a 912 (John Perry)
    20. 10:34 PM - Re Landing gear bungy cords. (ROBERT E SIMON)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: sight gauges | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
      
      > From: James Shumaker [jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net] 
      > The WD40 spout in the tube sounds like a great idea.  
      
      Thanks Jim but that's exactly what I don't understand. I even went to:
      
      http://www.hints-n-tips.com/wd40.htm
      
      but couldn't find what a "WD40 spout" is. I could understand a small and light
      plastic ball, tough, that would float on the top of the fuel.
      
      Cheers,
      Michel
      
      do not archive
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mike do you have a 912 | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: <gjglh@cebridge.net>
      
      Mike,
      Does the slipper clutch help on start up and shut down. And what is the prop 
      length on the IVO.
      
      Thanks
      Gary Henderson
      Model IV speedster 912 ul
      
      
      On Tue Aug 16 19:43 , Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net> sent:
      
      >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
      >
      >Hi Robert,
      >
      >Engine:   Rotax 912 ULS with slipper clutch
      >Prop:     Ivo medium (3 blade) in-flight adjustable
      >Airframe: Kitfox Model IV-1200 Speedster custom welded for tricycle gear
      >Wings:    Clipped to Speedster length (29' span)
      >
      >
      >>Mike do you have a Rotax 912 on your plane?
      >>
      >>Robert
      >>
      >>Performance is engineered.  My Model IV-1200 Speedster came in at...
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Kitfox IV Throttle Linkage Replacement | 
              Serialize complete at 08/17/2005 07:25:01 AM
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
      
      After going through the carb sync on my 912, I have begun to question the 
      throttle linkage setup.  I helped a friend balance this 912S on a RAN 
      Courier.  His linkage had a single cable going into the engine 
      compartment, that connected up to two cables that went to each of the 
      carbs.  The Kitfox IV has a single cable from the throttle to a 18" long 
      tube behind the instrument panel with two control horns on the end that 
      have the cables that go into the engine compartment to the carbs. I found 
      the tube and horn arrangement could flex in torsion..making it difficult 
      to set the carbs. The linkage in the RANS seemed much more precise.  Has 
      anyone found the same thing, and perhaps replaced the throttle linkage 
      setup?
      
      Gary Walsh
      C-GOOT
      Kitfox IV 912S
      www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
      
      do not archive
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: sight gauges | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
      
      Michel,
      
      Sorry no one has answered.  Some aerosol lubricants have a small red tube 
      that fits into the nozzle on the can.  It helps feed the lubricant to the 
      target area.  It is just a small chemical resistant tube that apparently 
      gives an optical rereference when in the sight gauge.  It doesn't float, but 
      the refraction is different with and without fuel.  It is a real clever idea 
      and I like clever ideas.  I use the Jim Shumaker method - a piece of white 
      paper with diagonal lines on it placed behind the sight gauge.
      
      Lowell
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
      Subject: SV: SV: Kitfox-List: Re: sight gauges
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
      >
      >> From: James Shumaker [jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net]
      >> The WD40 spout in the tube sounds like a great idea.
      >
      > Thanks Jim but that's exactly what I don't understand. I even went to:
      >
      > http://www.hints-n-tips.com/wd40.htm
      >
      > but couldn't find what a "WD40 spout" is. I could understand a small and 
      > light plastic ball, tough, that would float on the top of the fuel.
      >
      > Cheers,
      > Michel
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kitfox IV Throttle Linkage Replacement | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
      
      Gary,
      
      I believe John McBean at http://www.sportplanellc.com/ has a replacement 
      throttle cable set up available like the one you are describing.  John would 
      know things like this, as he is a highly experienced Kitfox pilot, builder, 
      and owner now offering his services to the rest of us.  And a great guy to 
      boot!
      
      Incidentally, I was flying a friends Rans S-7 912s amphib this weekend (gave 
      over 20 rides)at a fly in.  Really a nice airplane.  Cruises at 95-100 mph 
      at 5200 rpm on amphibs with a warp drive ground adjustable prop and czech 
      floats.   Stalls in the mid 30's.   Doesn't climb as well as a fox, and 
      flies a little more cub-like than a kitfox, but none the less a good flyer. 
      Had zero trouble taking any size passenger we could stuff in it (I know I 
      had a at least a couple 275 pounders throughout the day).  Downside, no 
      foldings wings, and not real good useful load.  But a lot of what Rans did 
      with things is good for us Kitfoxers to check out for ideas.  One idea that 
      comes to mind is the cabin heat.  They don't even bother with all the weight 
      and complexity of a heater core and fan under the panel.  They just use heat 
      muffs off the exhaust.  Last winter I flew this same airplane and the heat 
      was just fine.  So I think I'm going to remove my heavy heater core and 
      install a much lighter and more effective heat muff type heater on  my IV 
      this fall.  The Rans also has a very nice smooth operating choke control. 
      Just a pull knob on the panel (that pulled very easy).  It worked so much 
      easier and smoother than the one on my fox.  Not sure why, but I will say 
      the cable itself looks like it is a little more durable and more precisely 
      manufactured compared to mine.
      
      Always good to steal good ideas from others you know.  That's what 
      homebuilts are all about...
      
      Paul Seehafer
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "kitfoxjunky" <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV Throttle Linkage Replacement
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky 
      > <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
      >
      > After going through the carb sync on my 912, I have begun to question the
      > throttle linkage setup.  I helped a friend balance this 912S on a RAN
      > Courier.  His linkage had a single cable going into the engine
      > compartment, that connected up to two cables that went to each of the
      > carbs.  The Kitfox IV has a single cable from the throttle to a 18" long
      > tube behind the instrument panel with two control horns on the end that
      > have the cables that go into the engine compartment to the carbs. I found
      > the tube and horn arrangement could flex in torsion..making it difficult
      > to set the carbs. The linkage in the RANS seemed much more precise.  Has
      > anyone found the same thing, and perhaps replaced the throttle linkage
      > setup?
      >
      > Gary Walsh
      > C-GOOT
      > Kitfox IV 912S
      > www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: 
      
       sigh t gauges
      Subject: Suggestions for Cracked Sight Gauge RE: SV: Kitfox-List: Re:
       sigh t gauges
      
      Does John McBean or anyone else sell replacement sight gauges that are
      compatible with the existing male threaded studs in my fiberglass tank?
      
      On my fiberglass tanks I have the original hard plastic sight gauges that
      screw on using O-rings. I want to replace them however the male threaded
      stud has been attached with 3M structural adhesive. 
      
      I'd prefer to buy replacement rather than to fabricate my own.  Can I use
      copper or brass tubing as nipple coming out of the tank with Tygon between
      the two nipples? What have others done?
      Robert
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
      
      Robert,
              Yes, I sell a kit that replaces the entire fuel sight gauge.  Tubes and
      all.
      
      Fly Safe !!
      John & Debra McBean
      www.sportplanellc.com
      "The Sky is not the Limit...  It's a Playground"
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]
      Subject:
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by:
      
      From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
       sigh t gauges
      Subject: Suggestions for Cracked Sight Gauge RE: SV: Kitfox-List: Re:
       sigh t gauges
      
      Does John McBean or anyone else sell replacement sight gauges that are
      compatible with the existing male threaded studs in my fiberglass tank?
      
      On my fiberglass tanks I have the original hard plastic sight gauges that
      screw on using O-rings. I want to replace them however the male threaded
      stud has been attached with 3M structural adhesive.
      
      I'd prefer to buy replacement rather than to fabricate my own.  Can I use
      copper or brass tubing as nipple coming out of the tank with Tygon between
      the two nipples? What have others done?
      Robert
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Kitfox IV Throttle Linkage Replacement | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
      
      Gary,
              The split lead cable that I offer does not require the linkage at all.
      It
      is actually one control that operates two cables.. one for each carb.
      
      Fly Safe !!
      John & Debra McBean
      www.sportplanellc.com
      "The Sky is not the Limit...  It's a Playground"
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kitfoxjunky
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV Throttle Linkage Replacement
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
      <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
      
      After going through the carb sync on my 912, I have begun to question the
      throttle linkage setup.  I helped a friend balance this 912S on a RAN
      Courier.  His linkage had a single cable going into the engine
      compartment, that connected up to two cables that went to each of the
      carbs.  The Kitfox IV has a single cable from the throttle to a 18" long
      tube behind the instrument panel with two control horns on the end that
      have the cables that go into the engine compartment to the carbs. I found
      the tube and horn arrangement could flex in torsion..making it difficult
      to set the carbs. The linkage in the RANS seemed much more precise.  Has
      anyone found the same thing, and perhaps replaced the throttle linkage
      setup?
      
      Gary Walsh
      C-GOOT
      Kitfox IV 912S
      www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
      
      do not archive
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: 
      
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: RE: fuel sight
      
      Great. I'll contact  you off line.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
      Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: fuel sight
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
      
      Robert,
              Yes, I sell a kit that replaces the entire fuel sight gauge.  Tubes
      and
      all.
      
      Fly Safe !!
      John & Debra McBean
      www.sportplanellc.com
      "The Sky is not the Limit...  It's a Playground"
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]
      Subject:
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by:
      
      From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
       sigh t gauges
      Subject: Suggestions for Cracked Sight Gauge RE: SV: Kitfox-List: Re:
       sigh t gauges
      
      Does John McBean or anyone else sell replacement sight gauges that are
      compatible with the existing male threaded studs in my fiberglass tank?
      
      On my fiberglass tanks I have the original hard plastic sight gauges that
      screw on using O-rings. I want to replace them however the male threaded
      stud has been attached with 3M structural adhesive.
      
      I'd prefer to buy replacement rather than to fabricate my own.  Can I use
      copper or brass tubing as nipple coming out of the tank with Tygon between
      the two nipples? What have others done?
      Robert
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com
      
      
      In a message dated 8/17/2005 12:25:51 PM Central Daylight Time,  
      owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com writes:
      
      Yes, I sell a kit that replaces the entire fuel sight gauge.   Tubes
      and
      all.
      
      
      I have a KF 2 with a 6 gallon tank in each wing.......   airplane  is build 
      and flying  can this kit be added to a finishe airplane?
      
      Thanks
      
      Dave
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: RE: fuel sight | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
      
      I have the sight gauges that John McBean sells and they are easy to install
      and work great.
      
      Jimmie
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: fuel sight
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
      >
      > Robert,
      >         Yes, I sell a kit that replaces the entire fuel sight gauge.
      Tubes and
      > all.
      >
      > Fly Safe !!
      > John & Debra McBean
      > www.sportplanellc.com
      > "The Sky is not the Limit...  It's a Playground"
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]
      > Subject:
      >
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by:
      >
      > From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
      > To: "'kitfox-list@matronics.com'" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      >  sigh t gauges
      > Subject: Suggestions for Cracked Sight Gauge RE: SV: Kitfox-List: Re:
      >  sigh t gauges
      > Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:33:18 -0700
      >
      > Does John McBean or anyone else sell replacement sight gauges that are
      > compatible with the existing male threaded studs in my fiberglass tank?
      >
      > On my fiberglass tanks I have the original hard plastic sight gauges that
      > screw on using O-rings. I want to replace them however the male threaded
      > stud has been attached with 3M structural adhesive.
      >
      > I'd prefer to buy replacement rather than to fabricate my own.  Can I use
      > copper or brass tubing as nipple coming out of the tank with Tygon between
      > the two nipples? What have others done?
      > Robert
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: sight gauges | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
      
      Thank you, Lowell. I understand now.
      
      Cheers,
      Michel
      
      Do not archive
      
      Lowell Fitt wrote:
      > 
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
      > 
      > Michel,
      > 
      > Sorry no one has answered.  Some aerosol lubricants have a small red tube
      > that fits into the nozzle on the can.  It helps feed the lubricant to the
      > target area.  It is just a small chemical resistant tube that apparently
      > gives an optical rereference when in the sight gauge.  It doesn't float, but
      > the refraction is different with and without fuel.  It is a real clever idea
      > and I like clever ideas.  I use the Jim Shumaker method - a piece of white
      > paper with diagonal lines on it placed behind the sight gauge.
      > 
      > Lowell
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
      
      I'll contact you off-list...
      
      Do not Archive.
      
      Fly Safe !!
      John & Debra McBean
      www.sportplanellc.com
      "The Sky is not the Limit...  It's a Playground"
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      Aerobatics@aol.com
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Sight guage
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com
      
      
      In a message dated 8/17/2005 12:25:51 PM Central Daylight Time,
      owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com writes:
      
      Yes, I sell a kit that replaces the entire fuel sight gauge.   Tubes
      and
      all.
      
      
      I have a KF 2 with a 6 gallon tank in each wing.......   airplane  is build
      and flying  can this kit be added to a finishe airplane?
      
      Thanks
      
      Dave
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Kitfox IV Throttle Linkage Replacement | 
              Serialize complete at 08/17/2005 03:31:50 PM
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
      
      Sounds the same as the one on the RANS.  Once I get a few things done...I 
      will give you a call.
      
      Gary Walsh
      C-GOOT
      www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
      
      do not archive
      
      
      "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
      Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      08/17/2005 01:11 PM
      Please respond to kitfox-list
      
              To:     <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
              cc: 
              Subject:        RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV Throttle Linkage 
      Replacement
      
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
      
      Gary,
              The split lead cable that I offer does not require the linkage at 
      all.  It
      is actually one control that operates two cables.. one for each carb.
      
      Fly Safe !!
      John & Debra McBean
      www.sportplanellc.com
      "The Sky is not the Limit...  It's a Playground"
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kitfoxjunky
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV Throttle Linkage Replacement
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
      <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
      
      After going through the carb sync on my 912, I have begun to question the
      throttle linkage setup.  I helped a friend balance this 912S on a RAN
      Courier.  His linkage had a single cable going into the engine
      compartment, that connected up to two cables that went to each of the
      carbs.  The Kitfox IV has a single cable from the throttle to a 18" long
      tube behind the instrument panel with two control horns on the end that
      have the cables that go into the engine compartment to the carbs. I found
      the tube and horn arrangement could flex in torsion..making it difficult
      to set the carbs. The linkage in the RANS seemed much more precise.  Has
      anyone found the same thing, and perhaps replaced the throttle linkage
      setup?
      
      Gary Walsh
      C-GOOT
      Kitfox IV 912S
      www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
      
      do not archive
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mike do you have a 912 | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "randy bortree" <plane6013@earthlink.net>
      
      > Is there any body that can make bungy cords for a Kit Fox 1 
      >  Randy
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| Subject:  | Re: sight gauges | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
      
      WD40 is a common solvent in a pressurized spray can.  It comes with a plastic straw
      that is about 2 mm in diameter and 3 inches long that makes it easier to
      spray the solvent in small areas.  The only reason "WD40" is mentioned is that
      everyone in america instantly recognizes the name and the straw.  Any spray can
      straw could be used.  
      
      Jim Shumaker 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mike do you have a 912 | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
      
      You can order them made up from SS. Not sure but some of the folks on list may
      also sell them made up. You can also order the stock from ACS and make them up
      yourself. Not real difficult to do.
      
      Dee Young
      Model II
      N345DY
      
      Do not archive
      
      
        > Is there any body that can make bungy cords for a Kit Fox 1
        >  Randy
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| Subject:  | Re: Mike do you have a 912 | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
      
      24 bucks a piece from SKYSTAR give em a call and them will get them out to
      you asap .
      
      John Perry
      
      -------Original Message-------
      
      From: randy bortree
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Mike do you have a 912
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "randy bortree" <plane6013@earthlink.net>
      
      > Is there any body that can make bungy cords for a Kit Fox 1
      >  Randy
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| Subject:  | Re: Mike do you have a 912 | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
      
      Only problem is you cannot get the right crimps for the ends unless you
      spend several thousand for a big hydraulic nicopress. SKYSTAR Will make them
      up from new rubber and send them right out .
      John Perry 
      
      -------Original Message-------
      
      From: Dee Young
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Mike do you have a 912
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
      
      You can order them made up from SS. Not sure but some of the folks on list
      may also sell them made up. You can also order the stock from ACS and make
      them up yourself. Not real difficult to do.
      
      Dee Young
      Model II
      N345DY
      
      Do not archive
      
      
        > Is there any body that can make bungy cords for a Kit Fox 1
        >  Randy
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| Subject:  | Re  Landing gear bungy cords. | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: ROBERT E SIMON <bigbob196@juno.com>
      
      Hi folks,
      I think that it is time to replace the landing gear cords on my model IV.
       Please advise.
                                                                               
                      
                                                                               
                                   Bob Simon
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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