Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:33 AM - Re: Rib StitchingRib Stitching (Michael Gibbs)
2. 12:50 AM - Return Springs (Jeffrey Puls)
3. 02:47 AM - Re: New Rotax 912 Installation Video (Brent E Bidus)
4. 04:52 AM - speed fairings (AMuller589@aol.com)
5. 05:54 AM - Re: New Rotax 912 Installation Video (Randy Daughenbaugh)
6. 08:32 AM - Kitfox incidents / accidents (Lowell Fitt)
7. 08:49 AM - Re: Return Springs (John King)
8. 09:01 AM - Re: speed fairings (John King)
9. 09:23 AM - Re: speed fairings (AMuller589@aol.com)
10. 07:41 PM - Re: New Rotax 912 Installation Video (Bob Unternaehrer)
11. 07:48 PM - Jabiru engine oil cooler (Lynn Matteson)
12. 08:08 PM - Re: Return Springs (Jim Corner)
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| Subject: | Re: Rib StitchingRib Stitching |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
John sez:
>If you can't believe me who had no personal gain and a lot of
>experience here at all, then I doubt you can believe the company
>salesman.
What interest does Poly-Fiber have in telling you to rib stitch? Do
they make a lot of money on the stitching needles? I doubt it. Does
it mean you use less of their revenue-generated products to build
your plane? I doubt it.
If you don't believe what the manufacturer of a product says about
the use of that product you are living life by your own rules. Why
believe SkyStar when they tell you your Model IV has a max gross
weight of 1200 pounds? We all know guys that overdo it, so load it
up as much as you want! Why believe Rotax when they tell you that
red line on your 912 is 5800 RPM? I know guys who run their engines
at 6100 to 6300 all the time, so it must be OK, right?
Having spent half of the last year in a hospital bed and the other
half learning to walk again I can tell you that no shortcut is worth
it when it comes to building or flying airplanes.
Mike G.
N728KF
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
DID ANYONE READ THE ARTICLE ON PAGE 78 OF THE JULY SPORT PILOT? IT WAS ABOUT THE
RUDDER DEFLECTING WHEN A RUDDER CABLE IS BROKEN. THE AUTHOR THOUGHT THAT RETURN
SPRINGS WERE NOT A GOOD IDEA. ANY THOUGHTS ON THE SUBJECT? IT MENTIONED A
KITFOX. JEFF CLASSIC IV.
Jeffrey Puls
pulsair@mindspring.com
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| Subject: | Re: New Rotax 912 Installation Video |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Brent E Bidus <brentbidus@juno.com>
Has anybody on the list purchased this DVD? Comments? I'm planning on
installing a 912 next year when I return from overseas. Thanks
Brent Bidus
Kitfox Classic 4
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 15:18:53 -0500 "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com> writes:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
>
> A quick advertisement, so it's the only time it will be shown....!
>
> After many months of hard work, HomebuiltHELP is proud to announce
> that the "ROTAX 912 Installation Tips and Techniques" DVD video has
> been completed and is now shipping. This is a training presentation
> on installing, wiring and configuring the 912 family of engines for
> experimental aircraft.
> Think of it as a video presentation of the Rotax Installation guide
> and then some!
>
> Details at:
>
> http://Homebuilthelp.com/912.htm
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Jon
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com
has anyone used a different fairing at the lower intersection of the lift
fairings? The factory treatment seems to be very draggy in that area.
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| Subject: | New Rotax 912 Installation Video |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Brent,
I am not familiar with the DVD, but Phil Lockwood has been publishing a lot
of good stuff in the EAA "Sport Pilot" magazine. In this month's issue is
the first in a series on "Installation of the 912".
Randy
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brent E Bidus
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New Rotax 912 Installation Video
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Brent E Bidus <brentbidus@juno.com>
Has anybody on the list purchased this DVD? Comments? I'm planning on
installing a 912 next year when I return from overseas. Thanks
Brent Bidus
Kitfox Classic 4
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 15:18:53 -0500 "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com> writes:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
>
> A quick advertisement, so it's the only time it will be shown....!
>
> After many months of hard work, HomebuiltHELP is proud to announce
> that the "ROTAX 912 Installation Tips and Techniques" DVD video has
> been completed and is now shipping. This is a training presentation
> on installing, wiring and configuring the 912 family of engines for
> experimental aircraft.
> Think of it as a video presentation of the Rotax Installation guide
> and then some!
>
> Details at:
>
> http://Homebuilthelp.com/912.htm
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Kitfox incidents / accidents |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
John Larson's responses of late prompted me to take a look of the NTSB
Accident Data Base once again.
One thing comes to mind as I scanned these a bit this morning. Most of the
causes have been discussed from time to time on the list. The fact that we
have had a whole bunch of Kitfox owners and builders on the list over the 12
years I have been associated with the list (I estimate over a thousand
considering those that have come and then gone) and so few accidents, I
think speaks to our mutual heads ups from time to time. There is no
question I know my airplane better by reading your posts. I lurk on the
Lancair list, as I am helping a friend build a Lancair IV, and sad to say,
there have been a lot of deaths over the past two years
To find our what damages our airplanes and sometimes ourselves log on to:
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp#query_start
Type in the range of years you want to search and in the Make / Model field,
type in Kitfox or Avid or whatever and read. We as pilots are an
interesting bunch.
Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Return Springs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
Jeff,
That article does not show up in my July edition, page 78 of Sport Pilot.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Jeffrey Puls wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
>
>DID ANYONE READ THE ARTICLE ON PAGE 78 OF THE JULY SPORT PILOT? IT WAS ABOUT THE
RUDDER DEFLECTING WHEN A RUDDER CABLE IS BROKEN. THE AUTHOR THOUGHT THAT RETURN
SPRINGS WERE NOT A GOOD IDEA. ANY THOUGHTS ON THE SUBJECT? IT MENTIONED A
KITFOX. JEFF CLASSIC IV.
>
>
>Jeffrey Puls
>pulsair@mindspring.com
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>
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| Subject: | Re: speed fairings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
AMuller,
Yes, I also did not like the SkyStar provided fairing. I used the
PolyFiber SuperFill and covered the strut fairings with fabric
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
AMuller589@aol.com wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com
>
>has anyone used a different fairing at the lower intersection of the lift
>fairings? The factory treatment seems to be very draggy in that area.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: speed fairings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com
my intention is similar== to fill the fairing juncture with foam and coat
with epoxy filled beads also.... thanks
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| Subject: | Re: New Rotax 912 Installation Video |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
I purchased the one on Care and feeding of a Rotax 2 stroke and it wasn't
much...
I ask for my money back and got it. bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brent E Bidus" <brentbidus@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New Rotax 912 Installation Video
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Brent E Bidus <brentbidus@juno.com>
>
> Has anybody on the list purchased this DVD? Comments? I'm planning on
> installing a 912 next year when I return from overseas. Thanks
>
> Brent Bidus
> Kitfox Classic 4
>
> On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 15:18:53 -0500 "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com> writes:
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
> >
> > A quick advertisement, so it's the only time it will be shown....!
> >
> > After many months of hard work, HomebuiltHELP is proud to announce
> > that the "ROTAX 912 Installation Tips and Techniques" DVD video has
> > been completed and is now shipping. This is a training presentation
> > on installing, wiring and configuring the 912 family of engines for
> > experimental aircraft.
> > Think of it as a video presentation of the Rotax Installation guide
> > and then some!
> >
> > Details at:
> >
> > http://Homebuilthelp.com/912.htm
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Jabiru engine oil cooler |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
After stumbling around in Yahoo for over an hour and coming up with
nothing, I decided to ask the question here, where I belong!
How did you Jabiru/Kitfox owners handle the oil cooler installation
problem? I'm using the Skyfox cowl, and there doesn't seem to be room
under the front slope of the oil pan to mount the cooler and still
clear the lower cowl. If I could move the cowl forward, it would clear,
but the top of the cowl would then be into the area where the spinner
will be. The cowl cannot be mounted lower...it would then lay on the
engine.
Lynn
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| Subject: | Re: Return Springs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Corner <jcorner@shaw.ca>
The article in question is on page 78 of Sport Aviation not Sport Pilot.
I have to agree with the writer that if a one cable or pedal failed
in the air the aircraft would be difficult to control especially if
strong return springs are used.
Also the rudder pedal weld failures that have been reported would be
a lot more serious if the failure occurred in the air rather than on
the ground.
I have removed mine to reduce rudder cable drag on a homebuilt in-
flight adjustable rudder trim tab. The return springs only job as I
see it is to keep the cables taught.....
someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.
Jim Corner
On Aug 21, 2005, at 9:48 AM, John King wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
>
> Jeff,
>
> That article does not show up in my July edition, page 78 of Sport
> Pilot.
>
> --
> John King
> Warrenton, VA
>
>
> Jeffrey Puls wrote:
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls"
>> <pulsair@mindspring.com>
>>
>> DID ANYONE READ THE ARTICLE ON PAGE 78 OF THE JULY SPORT PILOT? IT
>> WAS ABOUT THE RUDDER DEFLECTING WHEN A RUDDER CABLE IS BROKEN. THE
>> AUTHOR THOUGHT THAT RETURN SPRINGS WERE NOT A GOOD IDEA. ANY
>> THOUGHTS ON THE SUBJECT? IT MENTIONED A KITFOX. JEFF CLASSIC IV.
>>
>>
>> Jeffrey Puls
>> pulsair@mindspring.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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