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1. 06:27 AM - Rudder Pedals (Bob Unternaehrer)
2. 07:00 AM - Re: NSI running hot (Lowell Fitt)
3. 07:26 AM - High Oil Pressure Rotax 912S in Kitfox classic IV with round cowl (Harry Tucker)
4. 07:58 AM - Re: NSI running hot (Fox5flyer)
5. 11:17 AM - Painting LexanRe: painting Lp Aero doors (Harris, Robert)
6. 11:23 AM - Re: painting Lp Aero doors (Harris, Robert)
7. 11:45 AM - Re: High Oil Pressure Rotax 912S in Kitfox classic IV with round cowl (flier)
8. 12:11 PM - Re: High Oil Pressure Rotax 912S in Kitfox classic IV with round cowl (Floran Higgins)
9. 01:25 PM - Re: Spinner or Not? (kitfoxjunky)
10. 01:26 PM - Re: Spinner or Not? (kitfoxjunky)
11. 01:57 PM - IVO Medium...adjusting blade tracking (kitfoxjunky)
12. 02:40 PM - Rudder pedals (Bob Unternaehrer)
13. 02:43 PM - Re: NSI running hot (John Anderson)
14. 03:46 PM - Re: painting Lp Aero doors (David Estapa)
15. 03:49 PM - was Rudder pedals- Posts (John Anderson)
16. 04:39 PM - 912 Rocker Arm Bushings (Brett Walmsley)
17. 06:50 PM - Wild Video - Red Bull Air Races (kitfoxjunky)
18. 07:17 PM - Re: Wild Video - Red Bull Air Races (Aerobatics@aol.com)
19. 08:13 PM - Oil draining to sump after shutdown (Herbert R Gottelt)
20. 09:47 PM - Anyone Know The Story Behind This Crash? (dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle))
21. 10:18 PM - Anyone know how to contact Dan Melnik? (Aerobatics@AOL.COM)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
I'm in need of a set (4) rudder pedal brake actuators (Just the top hindged part)
for a Model 4 classic. Not sure if other models will fit. Anyone have some
for sale or know if they are available from skystar.
Blue Skies
Bob Unternaehrer
shilocom@mcmsys.com
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| Subject: | Re: NSI running hot |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Hi, AMuller,
Saw lots of stuff - mostly RVs, but couldn'rt find the scoops. could you be
a little more specific on the URL.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: <AMuller589@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI running hot
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com
>
> we are using a Eggenfellner subaru 2.2 and had overheat problems until we
> made a square box in front of the radiator and protruding out about 3
> inches on
> all sides of the cowling. We also opened up the outlet on the bottom to
> about 4 times the inlet total area. Also installed an oil cooler. Now we
> occasionally get a two second overheat but instantly goes away for some
> reason and
> seems to occur only after prolonged descent; may have something to do
> with the
> thermostat delay in opening up. You can view the scoops on
> _http://www.eggenfellneraircraft.com/_
> (http://www.eggenfellneraircraft.com/)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | High Oil Pressure Rotax 912S in Kitfox classic IV with round |
cowl
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harry Tucker" <harry@htucker.com>
Hi
I have an intermittent oil pressure problem which can happen after one has
been flying for over half an hour. Ie not at start up when the engine is
cold
The oil pressure goes up to 90 to 92 PSI at 4500 RPM and when the Oil temp
is 160 to 165 deg
If one then pulls the power to 2000 RPM the Oil pressure goes UP to 99
PSI.
We always turn the prop 20+ revolutions by hand in order to get the oil up
from the sump into the oil header tank
If we leave the Kitfox for 4 hours then the oil totally drains out of the
header tank down to the sump. On all the other Kitfox IV's we maintain, the
oil does drain but not nearly so quickly ie it drains over a period of 2/3
weeks of non use.
Has anyone else had this problem and know what to do?
Harry Tucker
Wildlife & Golf Inv. Corp CC
PO Box 2830, White River, 1240 South Africa
Tel: + 27 13 751 5018 Fax:++ 27 11 507 5339
Mobile: + 27 83 45 28824
Email: harry@htucker.com
Skype: harrytucker
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| Subject: | Re: NSI running hot |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
With OAT of 97 (phew!) it's not surprising the temp could reach 250,
especially with lots of climbouts. 250 is pretty high, but I wouldn't
consider it catastrophic so long as you don't hold it there too long and you
have a good anti freeze mix. Adding a scoop for the rad will do wonders for
coolong. What happens when you level out in cruise for awhile?
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: <jgh54@netscape.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI running hot
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: <jgh54@netscape.com>
>
> while practicing take off and landing water temp hit near 250. outside air
97 coolant and oil full, nothing obvious for heat problem. i am new to KF
and NSI E81, any ideas of what to look at
>
> Netscape. Just the Net You Need.
>
>
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| Subject: | painting Lp Aero doors |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Hi Paul,
I think it will work on Lexan. I used the "Polyfiber Process" to attach
fabric to my Turtle Deck. In a few days I'll spray the UV blocker and
Aerothane and let you know what happens.
One thing you should note is that Plexiglass and Lexan are different
materials. Lexan is not very resistant to chemicals but this maybe a good
thing for applying Polyfiber (liquid vinyl) because it may bond/melt to it
better thank Plexiglass.
Find out if your LP doors are Lexan or Plexiglass because the Polyfiber
process may work on one but not the other.
By the way I called Polyfiber and asked them if this would work and they
were not sure and said to test it and find out. However, they did tell me to
be sure to sand the Lexan to ensure a good bite.
Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Seehafer
Subject: Kitfox-List: painting Lp Aero doors
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
All:
Has anyone any experience painting the edges of the LP Aero bubble doors
with paint? Particularly with Polyfiber Aerothane?
I want to trim the edges of my doors with matching fuselage colored paint,
but am concerned the solvents could attack the Plexiglass. I could do a
test on some scraps, but thought maybe someone has done this before and can
save me some paint mixing and time. Any advice or experiences would be
appreciated.
Paul Seehafer
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| Subject: | painting Lp Aero doors |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Hey David,
Do you know if your doors were Lexan or Plexiglass?
Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Estapa
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: painting Lp Aero doors
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
Paul, I painted a 3/4 edge around door with Aerothane. Been painted
about 6 months and see no effects. Be sure to use a masking that is vapor
proof and also mask the opposite side of the window. Airborne vapors can
attack that side also.
C. David Estapa
Woodstock, GA
N97DE S5TD
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:45:57 -0500 "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
writes:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer"
> <av8rps@tznet.com>
>
> All:
>
> Has anyone any experience painting the edges of the LP Aero bubble
> doors
> with paint? Particularly with Polyfiber Aerothane?
>
> I want to trim the edges of my doors with matching fuselage colored
> paint,
> but am concerned the solvents could attack the Plexiglass. I could
> do a
> test on some scraps, but thought maybe someone has done this before
> and can
> save me some paint mixing and time. Any advice or experiences would
> be
> appreciated.
>
> Paul Seehafer
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | High Oil Pressure Rotax 912S in Kitfox classic IV with |
round cowl
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
Harry,
Have you verified the oil pressure is actually surging and that you don't
have a sender/gauge problem?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Harry Tucker
Subject: Kitfox-List: High Oil Pressure Rotax 912S in Kitfox classic IV
with round cowl
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harry Tucker" <harry@htucker.com>
Hi
I have an intermittent oil pressure problem which can happen after one has
been flying for over half an hour. Ie not at start up when the engine is
cold
The oil pressure goes up to 90 to 92 PSI at 4500 RPM and when the Oil temp
is 160 to 165 deg
If one then pulls the power to 2000 RPM the Oil pressure goes UP to 99
PSI.
We always turn the prop 20+ revolutions by hand in order to get the oil up
from the sump into the oil header tank
If we leave the Kitfox for 4 hours then the oil totally drains out of the
header tank down to the sump. On all the other Kitfox IV's we maintain, the
oil does drain but not nearly so quickly ie it drains over a period of 2/3
weeks of non use.
Has anyone else had this problem and know what to do?
Harry Tucker
Wildlife & Golf Inv. Corp CC
PO Box 2830, White River, 1240 South Africa
Tel: + 27 13 751 5018 Fax:++ 27 11 507 5339
Mobile: + 27 83 45 28824
Email: harry@htucker.com
Skype: harrytucker
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| Subject: | Re: High Oil Pressure Rotax 912S in Kitfox classic IV with |
round cowl
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Floran Higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net>
I had a problem with fluctuating oil pressure dropping down to 30 psi on my
912 ULS.
I called Lockwood and talked to their engine man He told me that the problem
was in the oil sender. I replaced the sender and that solved the problem.
Floran H.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Tucker" <harry@htucker.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: High Oil Pressure Rotax 912S in Kitfox classic IV with
round cowl
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harry Tucker" <harry@htucker.com>
>
> Hi
>
>
> I have an intermittent oil pressure problem which can happen after one has
> been flying for over half an hour. Ie not at start up when the engine is
> cold
>
>
> The oil pressure goes up to 90 to 92 PSI at 4500 RPM and when the Oil temp
> is 160 to 165 deg
>
>
> If one then pulls the power to 2000 RPM the Oil pressure goes UP to 99
> PSI.
>
>
> We always turn the prop 20+ revolutions by hand in order to get the oil up
> from the sump into the oil header tank
>
>
> If we leave the Kitfox for 4 hours then the oil totally drains out of the
> header tank down to the sump. On all the other Kitfox IV's we maintain,
> the
> oil does drain but not nearly so quickly ie it drains over a period of 2/3
> weeks of non use.
>
>
> Has anyone else had this problem and know what to do?
>
>
> Harry Tucker
>
> Wildlife & Golf Inv. Corp CC
>
> PO Box 2830, White River, 1240 South Africa
>
> Tel: + 27 13 751 5018 Fax:++ 27 11 507 5339
>
> Mobile: + 27 83 45 28824
>
> Email: harry@htucker.com
>
> Skype: harrytucker
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Spinner or Not? |
Serialize complete at 08/29/2005 04:21:35 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Yes. I have the round cowl on my Mdl IV. Used the UHS spinner..the 10". At
first I thought it was too large..but once I got it on the plane..I
decided it looked nice. With the IVO Medium, it looks like there is a lot
of engine under the hood. Go to the "Taildragger Times" folder on the web
site below and you can see some pics.
Gary Walsh
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
do not archive
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
I've got a round-cowl Kitfox IV with a 582/C gearbox/warp drive three
blade. I'm thinking of putting one of the ACS UHS fiberglass spinners on,
....
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| Subject: | Re: Spinner or Not? |
Serialize complete at 08/29/2005 04:23:26 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
I saw no impact on cooling when I replaced the NSI spinner with the larger
UHS 10"
Gary Walsh
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
do not archive
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
John,
What exactly does the dia of a spinner do for the round cowl? I would
think it closes up the opening more and would give you more funneling
effect
of the air???. Any comments?
Don Smythe
Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | IVO Medium...adjusting blade tracking |
Serialize complete at 08/29/2005 04:53:38 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Was at a seminar last week and the Rotax Service Centre Rep focused on
reducing vibration in the 912 series. Carb Sync, Coil pickup gap and Blade
Tracking were high on the list. Has anyone ever adjusted the tracking on
an IVO Medium. Do you shim it at the hub? What do you use for shims?
Gary Walsh
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
I posted a need for brake actuator rudder pedal levers for a clasic Model IV and
never saw it appear, but I might have not been properly subscribed. If you
have some or know where there are some please respond to email below.\
Blue Skies
Bob Unternaehrer
shilocom@mcmsys.com
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| Subject: | Re: NSI running hot |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
See this? Works well. Not flown yet (very close) but all the high power
ground runs good cooling.
http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=1040642128
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI running hot
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Hi, AMuller,
Saw lots of stuff - mostly RVs, but couldn'rt find the scoops. could you be
a little more specific on the URL.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: <AMuller589@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI running hot
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com
>
>we are using a Eggenfellner subaru 2.2 and had overheat problems until we
>made a square box in front of the radiator and protruding out about 3
>inches on
>all sides of the cowling. We also opened up the outlet on the bottom to
>about 4 times the inlet total area. Also installed an oil cooler. Now we
>occasionally get a two second overheat but instantly goes away for some
>reason and
>seems to occur only after prolonged descent; may have something to do
>with the
>thermostat delay in opening up. You can view the scoops on
>_http://www.eggenfellneraircraft.com/_
>(http://www.eggenfellneraircraft.com/)
>
>
Read the latest Hollywood gossip @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/entertainment
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| Subject: | Re: painting Lp Aero doors |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
Plexi
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:19:58 -0700 "Harris, Robert"
<Robert_Harris@intuit.com> writes:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
> <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
>
> Hey David,
>
> Do you know if your doors were Lexan or Plexiglass?
> Robert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
> Estapa
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: painting Lp Aero doors
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: David Estapa
> <davestapa@juno.com>
>
> Paul, I painted a 3/4 edge around door with Aerothane. Been
> painted
> about 6 months and see no effects. Be sure to use a masking that is
> vapor
> proof and also mask the opposite side of the window. Airborne vapors
> can
> attack that side also.
>
> C. David Estapa
> Woodstock, GA
> N97DE S5TD
>
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:45:57 -0500 "Paul Seehafer"
> <av8rps@tznet.com>
> writes:
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer"
> > <av8rps@tznet.com>
> >
> > All:
> >
> > Has anyone any experience painting the edges of the LP Aero bubble
>
> > doors
> > with paint? Particularly with Polyfiber Aerothane?
> >
> > I want to trim the edges of my doors with matching fuselage
> colored
> > paint,
> > but am concerned the solvents could attack the Plexiglass. I
> could
> > do a
> > test on some scraps, but thought maybe someone has done this
> before
> > and can
> > save me some paint mixing and time. Any advice or experiences
> would
> > be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Paul Seehafer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Rudder pedals- Posts |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
I note that too, I get none of my own posts either?? Yes, your's did appear.
From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Rudder pedals
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
I posted a need for brake actuator rudder pedal levers for a clasic Model IV
and never saw it appear, but I might have not been properly subscribed. If
you have some or know where there are some please respond to email below.\
Blue Skies
Bob Unternaehrer
shilocom@mcmsys.com
Need more speed? Get Xtra Broadband @
http://jetstream.xtra.co.nz/chm/0,,202853-1000,00.html
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| Subject: | 912 Rocker Arm Bushings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <n93hj@numail.org>
The October 2005 Kitplanes has an article on page 65 about shopping for a used
Rotax engine. The picture at the bottom of the page talks about rocker arm bushing
evolution. It is stated that 1st came iron, then phenolic, then bronze. This
is an incorrect statement. The proper sequence is iron, bronze then phenolic.
This can be verified via Rotax service bulletins.
Brett
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| Subject: | Wild Video - Red Bull Air Races |
Serialize complete at 08/29/2005 09:47:22 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Have you folks heard about the Red Bull Air Races? Check out
http://www.redbullairrace.com if you have not already been there.
Incredible flying footage.
Gary Walsh
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Wild Video - Red Bull Air Races |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com
wow
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| Subject: | Oil draining to sump after shutdown |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Herbert R Gottelt <gofalke@sbcglobal.net>
When first running the 912 in 1997 I did not realize the oil syphoning back to
the sump. I thought the engine was low on oil and I refilled it to the mark just
before the next engine start. What a mess it caused!
I installed a small check valve between the tank and the oil cooler so it was free
flowing with the spring removed ,and the side where the spring formerly was
I raised up to 90 degrees. That was sufficient to stop the oil flow after shutdown.
The suction of the oil pump raises the ball, permitting unrestricted oil
flow.
I have this system since 1997 and never had any problems with it.
Herbert Gottelt, M-IV-1200.
Mount Prospect, IL
.
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| Subject: | Anyone Know The Story Behind This Crash? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Hi Listers,
Does anyone know the story behind this aircraft and the crash? Almost
looks like an RC model especially given the cameraman's rather
unemotional comment following the crash. Kind of looks like the
elevator may have been hooked up backwards following a rebuild.
http://media4.big-boys.com/content/oldplanecrash.wmv
Any information on this video would be intersting.
Matt
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| Subject: | Anyone know how to contact Dan Melnik? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com
Thanks
Dave Patrick
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