Today's Message Index:
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1. 01:02 AM - Selling Kitfox (Rex & Jan Shaw)
2. 06:59 AM - Re: Re: Skystars facts about flaperonsSV: landings FLapperons (Paul Seehafer)
3. 06:59 AM - Re: Skystars facts about flaperonsSV: landings FLapperons (Lmar)
4. 07:00 AM - Re: wing recovering (Paul Peerenboom)
5. 07:12 AM - Re: Re: Skystars facts about flaperonsSV: landings FLapperons (Don Smythe)
6. 07:57 AM - bunggy cord proublem (randy bortree)
7. 08:25 AM - Re: bunggy cord proublem (Don Pearsall)
8. 08:33 AM - Re: jimcarriere@yahoo.com (Lowell Fitt)
9. 10:35 AM - Prop Pitch (George Wells@adelphia.net)
10. 11:31 AM - Re: wing recovering (NELSON GOGUEN)
11. 11:42 AM - Re: wing recovering (Don Smythe)
12. 11:57 AM - Re: wing recovering (ron schick)
13. 01:54 PM - Re: bunggy cord proublem (joe)
14. 02:12 PM - Re: Re: Skystars facts about flaperons (Michael Gibbs)
15. 02:31 PM - Re: Skystars facts about flaperons (Michel Verheughe)
16. 02:36 PM - Re: Re: Skystars facts about flaperons (Michel Verheughe)
17. 02:45 PM - Re: bunggy cord problem (ron schick)
18. 03:04 PM - Re: bunggy cord problem (joe)
19. 04:35 PM - Flaperon angle info on Sportflight (Brett Walmsley)
20. 05:00 PM - Re: bunggy cord problem (Graeme Toft)
21. 05:46 PM - New plane (Graeme Toft)
22. 06:09 PM - Re: New plane (Steve Zakreski)
23. 06:37 PM - thing ma jig? (Steve Zakreski)
24. 06:37 PM - Re: Night VFR (Jeffrey Puls)
25. 06:41 PM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 09/16/05 (Jim Carriere)
26. 06:43 PM - Re: New plane (Graeme Toft)
27. 06:45 PM - Re: thing ma jig? (KITFOXZ@aol.com)
28. 06:49 PM - Vent Line (jareds)
29. 06:55 PM - Re: thing ma jig? (Andrew Matthaey)
30. 06:56 PM - Re: New plane (Andrew Matthaey)
31. 07:00 PM - Re: thing ma jig? (John Perry)
32. 07:03 PM - Re: Rotec R2800 (Jim Carriere)
33. 07:13 PM - Re: thing ma jig? (Brett Walmsley)
34. 07:32 PM - Re: thing ma jig? (Ron Liebmann)
35. 07:42 PM - Oil System question (Mdkitfox@aol.com)
36. 07:42 PM - Re: thing ma jig? (ron schick)
37. 09:53 PM - Re: Oil System question (jdmcbean)
38. 09:57 PM - Re: Vent Line (Marco Menezes)
39. 10:50 PM - Re: Vent Line (Rick)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Brookes"
<pdbrookes@blueyonder.co.uk>
Friends,
What can I say? I have not been a major contributor to this list, but have
enjoyed the useful tips and information found here. It is with some
sadness that I say goodbye to you all, and a lot of sadness I say farewell
to my Fox!
It has been a hard decision, but due to work and family commitments I have
not been able to fly as much as I want, and the Fox should be flown and
enjoyed as much as possible! It is sad to have her in sat in the hangar
for weeks at a time.
I have found a keen buyer who is looking to take her places and fly as
much as possible, so my sadness is lightened a little!
I will be buying a share in another aircraft yet to be determined, but it
will be the most cost effective way for me to continue flying! My heart
will always flutter every time I see a Fox fly past :-)
Thanks for your support and assistance I have received over recent years.
Pete.
Well Pete I bet it was a hard decision. I hope you don't regret it too badly
but I'm keeping mine. Goodluck to you anyway.
Rex from Australia.
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| Subject: | Re: Skystars facts about flaperonsSV: landings FLapperons |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Michael,
Maybe you could just send a copy of the flapperon adjustment bulletin to me
so I have it? I plan on readjusting mine and would like to have the factory
scoop on it prior to changing anything. Thnx.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Gibbs" <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Skystars facts about flaperonsSV: landings
FLapperons
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
>
> Paul,
>
>>Without the bulletin, one would tend to believe what the
>>manufacturer writes in a Pilot Guide when that is all the
>>information he can find on the specific subject.
>
> I suspect that the Pilot's Guide (which is an excellent resource and
> very well written) simply pre-dates the bulletin. So what Ed says in
> it is accurate as of that time.
>
>>Incidentally, does that bulletin say why it is limiting it to 22 degrees?
>
> The rationale was that the flaperons, when used as flaps, primarily
> produce lift and there is very little additional lift provided past
> 20 to 25 degrees. Beyond that point, though, there is a substantial
> limiting of aileron authority, therefore 22 degrees was deemed the
> "optimal" max.
>
> I'm going out to the shop today so I'll get the reference for that
> bulletin for you.
>
>>I would definitely suggest posting that bulletin of sportflight and
>>any others the rest of us aren't aware of.
>
> That would be a big job, since I don't know which ones people may
> have missed so I'd have to post all of them! :-)
>
> I'd be surprised if there isn't a master list somewhere already.
>
> Mike G.
> N728KF
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Skystars facts about flaperonsSV: landings FLapperons |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lmar <my93avid@yahoo.com>
Don,
With all due respect, was the rudder travel not enough to co-ordinate the airplane
with full flap, or was the amount required available, but not normally required
to use that amount? The Canadian Tiger Moth does not have any aileron
differential, and it requires a ton of rudder. Given your experience, I plan
to test my airplane at exagerated/normal extremes; hopefully by Monday. Will
let you knoow what I find.
Thanks for sharing,
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: wing recovering |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Peerenboom" <ppeerenbo@charter.net>
When I recovered my wings Model IV I also had to derived the flapron
brackets. I cut the fabric off and held the ends of the rivets to prevent
them from spinning and damaging the ribs. Also number the brackets to get
them back in the same location.
Paul N102DG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: wing recovering
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
>
> I would think you would have to remove the brackets to get a good cover
> job.
> As far as the little side windows, I covered over them with fabric (no
> side
> windows). Looks good, can't see much out of them anyway and saves weight
> (IMO)
> Don Smythe
> Classic IV W/ 582
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: wing recovering
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
>> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>>
>> I am going to recover a previously done wing. Do I need to remove the
>> flaperon attach brackets? The previous cover is under the hanger
>> brackets
>> which are riveted to the ribs. Also has anyone made plexiglass side
>> windows
>> instead ot the plastic stock ones? Thanks Ron NB Ore.
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Skystars facts about flaperonsSV: landings FLapperons |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
I don't think there was enough rudder to correct the situation. Either way,
I think full flaps could get you into trouble under certain conditions like
high cross winds, etc. On the other hand, having the full flap capability
"might" have it's good side on other situations????
Don Smythe
Classic IV W/ 582
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lmar" <my93avid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Skystars facts about flaperonsSV: landings
FLapperons
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lmar <my93avid@yahoo.com>
>
> Don,
>
> With all due respect, was the rudder travel not enough to co-ordinate the
> airplane with full flap, or was the amount required available, but not
> normally required to use that amount? The Canadian Tiger Moth does not
> have any aileron differential, and it requires a ton of rudder. Given
> your experience, I plan to test my airplane at exagerated/normal extremes;
> hopefully by Monday. Will let you knoow what I find.
>
> Thanks for sharing,
> Larry
>
>
>
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| Subject: | bunggy cord proublem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "randy bortree" <plane6013@earthlink.net>
Hi All
I started to put bunggys on my Kit Fox 1, and finding it hard to get
it wraped tight enough. has any body found a easy way to do this simple
little job, that I can't seem to do.
Thanks Randy
>
>
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| Subject: | bunggy cord proublem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Randy,
You will get lots of advice on this one.
The trick is to make one tight wrap, then secure it from moving, then make
another wrap, and so on. After making a wrap, most people use a heavy duty
plastic zip-tie. You could also use wire, tape, Vice Grips or whatever will
hold.
Of course having an extra person there to help is ideal. One could be on the
upper side, and the other on the lower side. Just pass the bungee to the
other person after making a wrap.
Don't allow it to come loose and smack you in the face. That hurts.
Don Pearsall
http://www.soundappraisal.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of randy bortree
Subject: Kitfox-List: bunggy cord proublem
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "randy bortree" <plane6013@earthlink.net>
Hi All
I started to put bunggys on my Kit Fox 1, and finding it hard to get
it wraped tight enough. has any body found a easy way to do this simple
little job, that I can't seem to do.
Thanks Randy
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Rick,
I re-read your post several times and don'y understand what you are
referring to.
Skystar, NSI, maybe?
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: jimcarriere@yahoo.com
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
>
> Hummm, I know fire everyone and bring in folks that just care about making
> money but have no creative genius or enthusiasm for the sport or product.
> Make sure the name is changed to something close but distant enough to
> allow
> product association without carrying over any negative aspects. Don't come
> forth with a public announcement in any aviation magazine or web forum so
> as
> to keep it a mystery or rumor until they find out if they can really pull
> it
> off. Look familiar.
>
> Rick
> N656T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> RV73HL@aol.com
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: jimcarriere@yahoo.com
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: RV73HL@aol.com
>
> Can you give me a short history on Skystar for the past 10 years. From
> what
> I am reading on the list, I'm hearing good and bad from their customers.
> If
> they are having problems, what do you think they are and why?
>
> Thanks Jim.
>
> Howard
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "George Wells@adelphia.net" <georgewells@adelphia.net>
I have a 912S with a ground Adj. Warp Drive Prop. What is a recommended RPM Full
Throttle static Prop setting for a good all around Climb and Cruse -- i.e. Average
setting.
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: wing recovering |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "NELSON GOGUEN" <mino2@verizon.net>
Ron,
You have received some good advise in removing the flaperon hangers. Just
one more thought; when the fabric is removed check to make sure that the
aluminum strip is still in place, where the rivits come through the cap
strip. Not strong enough without the aluminum back up.
Fly safe,
Nelson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: wing recovering
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> Ron, you'll probably have to drill them out. Not a real big deal. Just
> keep track of which brackets go in each spot so when you re-rivet they'll
> match up. Actually, all the hard work is already done for you.
> As for the side windows, by all means, use plexi glass. Just rig up some
> sort of frame work and glue it in there with double sided sticky tape or
> something. It'll look much better than the sewn in type.
> Deke
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: wing recovering
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>>
>> I am going to recover a previously done wing. Do I need to remove the
>> flaperon attach brackets? The previous cover is under the hanger
>> brackets
>> which are riveted to the ribs. Also has anyone made plexiglass side
> windows
>> instead ot the plastic stock ones? Thanks Ron NB Ore.
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: wing recovering |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Very good point. I had a couple of mine come loose during the initial build
and considered replacing them with a little thicker aluminum and better
adhesive. When drilling through those alum plates the drill bit has a
tendency to try and push off the plate.
Don Smythe
Classic IV W/ 582
----- Original Message -----
From: "NELSON GOGUEN" <mino2@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: wing recovering
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "NELSON GOGUEN" <mino2@verizon.net>
>
> Ron,
>
> You have received some good advise in removing the flaperon hangers. Just
> one more thought; when the fabric is removed check to make sure that the
> aluminum strip is still in place, where the rivits come through the cap
> strip. Not strong enough without the aluminum back up.
>
> Fly safe,
>
> Nelson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: wing recovering
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
>> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>>
>> Ron, you'll probably have to drill them out. Not a real big deal. Just
>> keep track of which brackets go in each spot so when you re-rivet they'll
>> match up. Actually, all the hard work is already done for you.
>> As for the side windows, by all means, use plexi glass. Just rig up some
>> sort of frame work and glue it in there with double sided sticky tape or
>> something. It'll look much better than the sewn in type.
>> Deke
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Kitfox-List: wing recovering
>>
>>
>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
>> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>>>
>>> I am going to recover a previously done wing. Do I need to remove the
>>> flaperon attach brackets? The previous cover is under the hanger
>>> brackets
>>> which are riveted to the ribs. Also has anyone made plexiglass side
>> windows
>>> instead ot the plastic stock ones? Thanks Ron NB Ore.
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: wing recovering |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Yes thank everyone for the info on recovering. I noticed one rivet had
pushed the aluminum backer loose from the rib. Makes me want to test the
adhesion of other parts.
Ron NB ORE
Do not archive
>From: "NELSON GOGUEN" <mino2@verizon.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: wing recovering
>Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:29:24 -0400
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "NELSON GOGUEN" <mino2@verizon.net>
>
>Ron,
>
>You have received some good advise in removing the flaperon hangers. Just
>one more thought; when the fabric is removed check to make sure that the
>aluminum strip is still in place, where the rivits come through the cap
>strip. Not strong enough without the aluminum back up.
>
>Fly safe,
>
>Nelson
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: wing recovering
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
><morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> >
> > Ron, you'll probably have to drill them out. Not a real big deal. Just
> > keep track of which brackets go in each spot so when you re-rivet
>they'll
> > match up. Actually, all the hard work is already done for you.
> > As for the side windows, by all means, use plexi glass. Just rig up
>some
> > sort of frame work and glue it in there with double sided sticky tape or
> > something. It'll look much better than the sewn in type.
> > Deke
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: wing recovering
> >
> >
> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
> > <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> I am going to recover a previously done wing. Do I need to remove the
> >> flaperon attach brackets? The previous cover is under the hanger
> >> brackets
> >> which are riveted to the ribs. Also has anyone made plexiglass side
> > windows
> >> instead ot the plastic stock ones? Thanks Ron NB Ore.
> >> do not archive
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: bunggy cord proublem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
has any body found a easy way to do this simple
> little job, that I can't seem to do.
++++++ This is a difficult job for sure. The only tip we've seen is that
you get someone to place a nylon pull-tie on your previous wrap while
holding tension so as not to lose the progress you have made. HOWEVER, we
just tried to install new bungees on our model 3. The manual calls for 6
wraps. We could only get five, and it seems that there is only enough room
on the brackets for five. The original bungees were a little thinner, but
that might be due to age, and I got 7 wraps with them. I thought after 9
years flying that I should maybe replace them. Does anyone know what date
the color codes indicate? My old ones were black, black, red. The new ones
are green, gold, gold.
Thanks for any info,
Regards,
Joe
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| Subject: | Re: Skystars facts about flaperons |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
>Well ... Mike, my friend ... here it is, for the fourth time:
>
>The year was 1991. A fine year it was. And that year, Denney
>Aerocraft Corportation wrote in its Owner Manual for the Kitfox
>model III
Michel, my friend...I know you've posted that 4 times, but...
Not everyone has a Model III, as you know, and the manuals for each
are different. Given the number of folks that claim to have found no
reference to the flap limiter in their respective manuals, I thought
a reference to SkyStar's bulletin would be helpful.
I'm not completely daft, you know... :-)
Mike G.
N728KF
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| Subject: | Re: Skystars facts about flaperons |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
James Shumaker wrote:
> I was quite surprised to find that the total deflection was 9 degrees.
Ah! Finally, another model III like mine! :-)
> Pay no attention to those that do not seem to respond to your clarification
> of the max flap deflection.
Don't worry, Jim, I am used to it. My wife never responds when I talk about
aviation ... ha, ha, ha! :-)
Seriously, my only interest in the discussion was to know how my conservative
10 degrees was giving such an awkward feeling of the plane, when others use up
to 30 degrees of deflection. Could the difference between the model III and
model IV be so great that flaperons can be deflected three times as much?
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Skystars facts about flaperons |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Michael Gibbs wrote:
> I'm not completely daft, you know... :-)
Of course not, Mike, and I apologize if I gave the impression that you would.
The interesting part here, is that, in 1991, Denney wrote about limiting the
deflection of the flaps, while Skystar removed the comment in later manuals.
One can but wonder why.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: bunggy cord problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Joe just a thought, but you are supporting the plane so the gear is down all
the way. I added two wraps to my nosegear (AVID) while my big friend held
the tail down for me.
Ron NB OR
>From: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: bunggy cord proublem
>Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:53:57 -0400
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
>The only tip we've seen is that
>you get someone to place a nylon pull-tie on your previous wrap
>Thanks for any info,
>Regards,
>Joe
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
<> Joe just a thought, but you are supporting the plane so the gear is down
all
> the way.
++++ I tie a wire between the gear legs to hold the tubes up tight to the
airframe.
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| Subject: | Flaperon angle info on Sportflight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
I have added 10 scans from the Skystar Classic IV manual dated June '03 and a Kitfox
Times article that I saved. They are posted under "Text/Articles".
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| Subject: | Re: bunggy cord problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
I had a similar issue with bungies some time back and with the help of many
listers made my own bungies and installed them without hassle. I found that
the easiest way to fit them was with one person under and another in the
plane to feed the loose end back. I placed the plane off the ground on a
padded saw horse so the gear would droop. I found that just pressing firmly
on the bungy with my thumb was enough pressure to hold it in place while the
free hand passed the loose end up to my mate. It was dead easy and completed
in 10 minutes per side. One thing I did find however was that given the
length prescribed by sky star for each bungy, I ended up with seven wraps
instead of 6. It has made absolutely no difference to the way the suspension
works.
Cheers
Graeme Toft
----- Original Message -----
From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: bunggy cord problem
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
> Joe just a thought, but you are supporting the plane so the gear is down
> all
> the way. I added two wraps to my nosegear (AVID) while my big friend held
> the tail down for me.
> Ron NB OR
>
>
>>From: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
>>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: bunggy cord proublem
>>Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:53:57 -0400
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
>>The only tip we've seen is that
>>you get someone to place a nylon pull-tie on your previous wrap
>>Thanks for any info,
>>Regards,
>>Joe
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
HI guys, I am in the process of looking seriously at a Model 1V 1200 with an NSI
Subaru motor and electric adjustable 3 blade prop. Its quite a step up from
my 582 powered Model 1 so would really appreciate comments on performance by those
with similar aircraft. I realise this is a very general request but I need
to source as much info as I can before I travel 2500 klm to see the plane. Issues
such as cruise speed, full burn, reliability, issues to check on inspection
etc. Anything to put me into a more knowledgeable position would be great.
Cheers and thanks in advance
Graeme Toft
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Whatdya want to know? Where are you located?
szakreski@shaw.ca
SteveZ
Calgary
IV/NSI-EA81/CAP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graeme Toft
Subject: Kitfox-List: New plane
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
HI guys, I am in the process of looking seriously at a Model 1V 1200 with an
NSI Subaru motor and electric adjustable 3 blade prop. Its quite a step up
from my 582 powered Model 1 so would really appreciate comments on
performance by those with similar aircraft. I realise this is a very general
request but I need to source as much info as I can before I travel 2500 klm
to see the plane. Issues such as cruise speed, full burn, reliability,
issues to check on inspection etc. Anything to put me into a more
knowledgeable position would be great.
Cheers and thanks in advance
Graeme Toft
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
What's the generic name for that thing ma jig that looks like a shock
absorber that stops the door from opening too fast?!
SteveZ
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Bill,
I bought my light from Beam Distributing, Inc. There address is PO Box 71884
Richmond, Va. 23255
Phone 804-440-6489
e-mail beam_dist@hotmail.com
Item Code QTY Description Price Ea.
Amount
1930C black 1 L1 LED flashlight $14.80
$14.80
Shipping &
Handling $6.95 $6.95
TOTAL
$21.75
Hope this helps. They had same day shipping. I have two and they are
great!
> [Original Message]
> From: Jeffrey Puls <pulsair@mindspring.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 9/16/2005 9:51:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Night VFR
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
>
> Bill,
> I'll look at my receipts and tell you where I bought it. Jeff
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Chenoweth <chenoweth@gwi.net>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Date: 9/16/2005 4:02:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Night VFR
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Chenoweth" <chenoweth@gwi.net>
> >
> > Jeff,
> > Nothing is simple. I found that the Pelican people won't sell to me so
> I'm
> > in contact with a local marine outfit which carries the lights.
> > On Pelican's web site I found an L1 LED light (no price on the web site)
> > that fit your description but had only a white lens.
> > I found another one that was part of a kit including mounting hardware
and
> > some kind of swivel thing and it had both red and green lenses. But it
> > turns out to be $32 more or less.
> > Not to be an ongoing pest but do you happen to have a part number or
> > something equivalent that I can use to get one of these things?
> >
> > Actually, the $32 kit didn't sound all that bad, but being nearly three
> > times what you paid I figure I should investigate further.
> > Bill
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Night VFR
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls"
> <pulsair@mindspring.com>
> > >
> > > Bill,
> > > It is the L-1 LED. It is 2 5/8' long, is 6,000 candle power and burns
> for
> > > 130 hours. The cost is only $11.52. 2 5/8" long is perfect for the
> KItfox
> > > cockpit. Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Chenoweth <chenoweth@gwi.net>
> > > > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > > > Date: 9/12/2005 6:23:36 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Night VFR
> > > >
> > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Chenoweth" <chenoweth@gwi.net>
> > > >
> > > > Jeff,
> > > > What is the model number or name of the flashlights you bought?
> > > > Bill
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
> > > > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > > > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Night VFR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls"
> > > <pulsair@mindspring.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > If you guys want some cool instrument lighting here is a
> suggestion. I
> > > > went
> > > > > to the Pelican website. They sell flashlights. There is a very
small
> > one
> > > > > that has a little clip on it. I bought two of these and put adel
> > clamps
> > > on
> > > > > them and put them on the overhead braces each side. I tilted them
> > > > downward.
> > > > > They come with red and green lens. Plenty of light and they look
> cool
> > on
> > > > > the instruments. They take about three nicad batteries (wafer
type)
> > and
> > > > > will go about 200 hours (So they say). They look professionally
> > mounted
> > > > and
> > > > > they look like they belong there. Cheap! Jeff Classic IV
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > [Original Message]
> > > > > > From: Andrew Matthaey <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > Date: 9/9/2005 10:58:03 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Night VFR
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey"
> > > > > <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wow - I took the 'Fox up tonight...It was NOTHING short of
> > incredible
> > > -
> > > > > > there aren't words. I haven't installed the instrument lighting,
> but
> > I
> > > > > went
> > > > > > up anyway with a flashlight, though I didn't end up using it. I
> > could
> > > > > just
> > > > > > make out the white hands on the instruments, and I knew where
they
> > > > should
> > > > > be
> > > > > > - and I was able to keep altitude/airspeed very nicely.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I climbed up to two thousand feet and just cruised with the
doors
> > > open,
> > > > > > enjoying the warm night air (a temp. inversion had already
> begun). A
> > > > > local
> > > > > > airport - Sanford, ME, had one of the runways lit up like a
> > christmas
> > > > > tree,
> > > > > > complete with the "rabbit" for the ILS. Portsmouth, NH was
> gorgeous,
> > > and
> > > > > I
> > > > > > even saw some fireworks! If it weren't for my buddy waiting for
me
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > ground, I would never have come down :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I started my descent and just crossed the threshold on short
final
> > > when
> > > > > the
> > > > > > runway lights went out. I fiddled with the handheld to turn them
> > back
> > > on
> > > > > and
> > > > > > then went around for another shot. I watched the landing light
hit
> > the
> > > > > > pavement and made a greaser of a wheel-landing - absolutely
> perfect!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still grinning ear-to-ear, two hours later! What a
privilege!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andrew
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > >Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Night VFR
> > > > > > >Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:31:49 -0400
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey"
> > > > > > ><spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Of course, Canada always follows suit! LoL...j/k
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Andrew
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Night VFR
> > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 21:17:35 -0600
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski
> > > <szakreski@shaw.ca>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >... and Canada
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >SteveZ
> > > > > > > >Calgary, Canada
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> > Andrew
> > > > > > > >Matthaey
> > > > > > > >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Night VFR
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey"
> > > > > > > ><spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Oh god I love sailing...that's my next project, when I get
out
> of
> > > > > school
> > > > > > >-
> > > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >little two-person, seaworthy sailboat. I would love to see
> > > > Norway...I'm
> > > > > > > >mostly Norwegian through my grandparents...When I worked for
> > Virgin
> > > > > > > >Atlantic
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Airways after High School, I was sent to London for
training. I
> > > > almost
> > > > > > >got
> > > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >non-rev standby ticket to Oslo...had to go to Hong Kong
instead
> > > > though!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I hear that the United States is one of very few countries to
> > allow
> > > > > > >pilots
> > > > > > > >to fly at night, VFR, without an Instrument ticket...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Andrew
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Night VFR
> > > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 21:41:46 +0200
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe
> > > > > <michel@online.no>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Andrew Matthaey wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I love flying at night
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >That's my only regret, Andrew: with my Norwegian Utralight
> > > license,
> > > > I
> > > > > > > >can't
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >fly
> > > > > > > > >at night. But I'd love to. I have sailed a lot at night
and I
> > > like
> > > > it
> > > > > > > >very
> > > > > > > > >much. In fact, I find it easier because I can easily find
my
> > > > position
> > > > > > > >from
> > > > > > > > >bearings on lighthouses. The Norwegian and Swedish
> archipelago
> > is
> > > > > very
> > > > > > > > >complex
> > > > > > > > >but well lit by sector lights. You just follow the white
> > sector.
> > > > > When
> > > > > > >it
> > > > > > > > >gets
> > > > > > > > >red or green, you're too much on one or the other side.
It's
> > very
> > > > > > > >exciting
> > > > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > >pass between islands you don't see, knowing that you're on
> the
> > > > right
> > > > > > > >track
> > > > > > > > >because, before you, many fishermen have used the same
> channel
> > > and
> > > > > made
> > > > > > > >it
> > > > > > > > >safe. ... but, I am getting off-topic, here! :-)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Enjoy your night flying, friend!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Cheers,
> > > > > > > > >Michel
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >do not archive
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 09/16/05 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Carriere <jimcarriere@yahoo.com>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: RV73HL@aol.com
>
> Can you give me a short history on Skystar for the past 10 years.
> From what
> I am reading on the list, I'm hearing good and bad from their
> customers. If
> they are having problems, what do you think they are and why?
Howard, try searching the archives
http://www.matronics.com/search/
That goes back to late 2003, before then
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitfoxlist/
There is quite a bit of material in there to swallow, I know.
Skystar's own website has a well written history about the line of
airplanes.
The company's problems are obviously money related. This has put
them behind on kit deliveries for the last few years. If you had to
narrow it down to an event, I'd say a runaway small plane crashed
into their hangar a few years ago, and neither party was very well
insured (or insured at all).
Personally, my single biggest problem with them is customers
repeatedly being told unrealistic delivery dates.
Jim in NW FL
Series 7 in progress
__________________________________
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
Hi Steve, Im in Australia. Any performance figures, weight and balance
issues, engine reliability/performace/common problems and hidden costs would
be a good start. Maybe just your own experience with the plane. Im not after
specifics, just general info before I jump into the car and drive for 30
hours to check it out.
Do not archive.
Cheers
Graeme Toft
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Zakreski" <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: New plane
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
> Whatdya want to know? Where are you located?
>
> szakreski@shaw.ca
>
>
> SteveZ
> Calgary
> IV/NSI-EA81/CAP
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graeme Toft
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: New plane
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> HI guys, I am in the process of looking seriously at a Model 1V 1200 with
> an
> NSI Subaru motor and electric adjustable 3 blade prop. Its quite a step up
> from my 582 powered Model 1 so would really appreciate comments on
> performance by those with similar aircraft. I realise this is a very
> general
> request but I need to source as much info as I can before I travel 2500
> klm
> to see the plane. Issues such as cruise speed, full burn, reliability,
> issues to check on inspection etc. Anything to put me into a more
> knowledgeable position would be great.
>
> Cheers and thanks in advance
> Graeme Toft
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: thing ma jig? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: KITFOXZ@aol.com
In a message dated 9/17/2005 9:38:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
szakreski@shaw.ca writes:
What's the generic name for that thing ma jig that looks like a shock
absorber that stops the door from opening too fast?!
SteveZ
That would be your chin Steve
John P. Marzluf
Columbus, Ohio
Outback, (out back in the garage)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
On a recent trip my fuel flow slowed down considerably and was not
keeping the header full.
Turbulence had knocked the vent line off it's shelf where it was coiled
up and was hanging beside the header in a loop like the trap in you
kitchen sink.
Do ya'll think that may have restricted flow and how do you guys route
your vent line, yet keep it long enough to accomodate wing folding?
Thanks
Jared
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| Subject: | Re: thing ma jig? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Depends on who you speak to...some call it a Lift-Strut (automotive guys
mostly), some just call it a gas shock/strut, and some just call it a
thingamajig :)
Andrew
>From: KITFOXZ@aol.com
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: thing ma jig?
>Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:44:49 EDT
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: KITFOXZ@aol.com
>
>
>In a message dated 9/17/2005 9:38:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>szakreski@shaw.ca writes:
>
>What's the generic name for that thing ma jig that looks like a shock
>absorber that stops the door from opening too fast?!
>
>SteveZ
>
>
>That would be your chin Steve
>
>John P. Marzluf
>Columbus, Ohio
>Outback, (out back in the garage)
>
>
http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
You can drive for 30 hrs and still not be across Australia? LoL...Might end
up in the Pacific :)
Andrew
do not archive
>From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New plane
>Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:43:39 +1000
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
>Hi Steve, Im in Australia. Any performance figures, weight and balance
>issues, engine reliability/performace/common problems and hidden costs
>would
>be a good start. Maybe just your own experience with the plane. Im not
>after
>specifics, just general info before I jump into the car and drive for 30
>hours to check it out.
>
>Do not archive.
>
>Cheers
>Graeme Toft
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve Zakreski" <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: New plane
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
> >
> > Whatdya want to know? Where are you located?
> >
> > szakreski@shaw.ca
> >
> >
> > SteveZ
> > Calgary
> > IV/NSI-EA81/CAP
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graeme Toft
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: New plane
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> >
> > HI guys, I am in the process of looking seriously at a Model 1V 1200
>with
> > an
> > NSI Subaru motor and electric adjustable 3 blade prop. Its quite a step
>up
> > from my 582 powered Model 1 so would really appreciate comments on
> > performance by those with similar aircraft. I realise this is a very
> > general
> > request but I need to source as much info as I can before I travel 2500
> > klm
> > to see the plane. Issues such as cruise speed, full burn, reliability,
> > issues to check on inspection etc. Anything to put me into a more
> > knowledgeable position would be great.
> >
> > Cheers and thanks in advance
> > Graeme Toft
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: thing ma jig? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
Gas spring , hydraulic damper , thing a ma jig that goes in and out and
holds the whatcha ma callit open ,
John in sw wind blowin no water flatland KS.
-------Original Message-------
From: Steve Zakreski
Subject: Kitfox-List: thing ma jig?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
What's the generic name for that thing ma jig that looks like a shock
absorber that stops the door from opening too fast?!
SteveZ
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Carriere <jimcarriere@yahoo.com>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
> Jim,
> Hurry up and get that thing in the air! I want a report on how
> that engine
> performs.
Hi Randy,
That'll happen soon enough. I have about 300 hours of work done
right now, still quite a ways to go. I get between 0 and 40 hours
done each month, depending on what else is going on. Probably at
least a year until I take flight.
By all accounts, I'm expecting to be pleased. The prop turns
slightly faster than 2400rpm max, which combined with a large
diameter (74" or greater) climb/STOL prop is supposed to give
impressive static thrust. I may try to fit an IVO inflight
adjustable prop on there (the engine uses a 912 type hub). I have
the wing strut fairings, wing fales ribs, and tail feather ribs, so
I'm also hopeful my top speed will be respectable (that is if I
don't build too heavy...). One of the reasons I picked this
airplane is for occasional cross country flying (emphasis
occasional).
Rotec's website has a couple of Kitfox articles and plenty of
pictures that may either satisfy your appetite or whet it even more.
Jim in NW FL
Series 7 in progress
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| Subject: | Re: thing ma jig? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
Gas cylinder....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Zakreski" <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Subject: Kitfox-List: thing ma jig?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
> What's the generic name for that thing ma jig that looks like a shock
> absorber that stops the door from opening too fast?!
>
> SteveZ
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: thing ma jig? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Liebmann" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
Steve,
Here is the info for the gas struts.
I pulled up the site for H.A.Guden at www.guden.com and
there were my original ones. I have part # GGS43-060-K which is a 60 pound
type with the plastic ends. I ordered 2 of them at a price of $9.27 each
plus shipping.
Ron N55KF
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
> What's the generic name for that thing ma jig that looks like a shock
> absorber that stops the door from opening too fast?!
>
> SteveZ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Oil System question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mdkitfox@aol.com
I just finished installing the oil tank and cooler on my 912S and then began
to install the oil lines. The oil tank has two fittings welded on that look
to accept a B-nut and 37 degree flared tube. I can't find any parts in the
kit that would allow the oil lines to be installed on these fittings nor
could I find any parts in the Aircraft Spruce catalog that goes from flared tube
to a hose connection. Do any of you gents who have a series V, VI, or VII
have any suggestions on how to install the oil lines?
Rick Weiss
N39RW, 912S Series V Speedster
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Steve I think strut was what the manual called it, but if it really is the
chin then I'm sure you've called it plenty! LOL Ron NB OR
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>From: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: thing ma jig?
>Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:19:52 -0600
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
>What's the generic name for that thing ma jig that looks like a shock
>absorber that stops the door from opening too fast?!
>
>SteveZ
>
>
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| Subject: | Oil System question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Rick,
The oil tank fittings come with the engine.... There is a small box that
should be with your engine.. the fittings should be in there....
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mdkitfox@aol.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Oil System question
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mdkitfox@aol.com
I just finished installing the oil tank and cooler on my 912S and then
began
to install the oil lines. The oil tank has two fittings welded on that
look
to accept a B-nut and 37 degree flared tube. I can't find any parts in the
kit that would allow the oil lines to be installed on these fittings nor
could I find any parts in the Aircraft Spruce catalog that goes from flared
tube
to a hose connection. Do any of you gents who have a series V, VI, or VII
have any suggestions on how to install the oil lines?
Rick Weiss
N39RW, 912S Series V Speedster
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Hi Jared.
Your problem could be related to air trapped in the header tank.
There was a long string awhile ago on venting header tanks. You should check the
archives, there were many good opinions and ideas. What I settled on was routing
the vent line along the right side of cabin at the wing root and, at the
highest point, venting out though the lexan into a rearward facing aluminum tube.
I also put an Andair check valve (bleeder type) in the vent line to keep
fuel from getting sucked out but this didn't seem to work. So now I just cap the
vent after fueling and checking that all air is bled out of the header. Since
the system is all inside the cabin, it doesn't affect wing folding at all.
If you want, I can send you a photo.
jareds <jareds@verizon.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds
On a recent trip my fuel flow slowed down considerably and was not
keeping the header full.
Turbulence had knocked the vent line off it's shelf where it was coiled
up and was hanging beside the header in a loop like the trap in you
kitchen sink.
Do ya'll think that may have restricted flow and how do you guys route
your vent line, yet keep it long enough to accomodate wing folding?
Thanks
Jared
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
I have found that my right tank always flows faster than the left. I think
this is due to the vent being in the right tank. I plan on adding a second
header vent to the left tank, but this is not number one on things to do.
FYI.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Marco
Menezes
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Vent Line
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Hi Jared.
Your problem could be related to air trapped in the header tank.
There was a long string awhile ago on venting header tanks. You should check
the archives, there were many good opinions and ideas. What I settled on was
routing the vent line along the right side of cabin at the wing root and, at
the highest point, venting out though the lexan into a rearward facing
aluminum tube. I also put an Andair check valve (bleeder type) in the vent
line to keep fuel from getting sucked out but this didn't seem to work. So
now I just cap the vent after fueling and checking that all air is bled out
of the header. Since the system is all inside the cabin, it doesn't affect
wing folding at all.
If you want, I can send you a photo.
jareds <jareds@verizon.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds
On a recent trip my fuel flow slowed down considerably and was not
keeping the header full.
Turbulence had knocked the vent line off it's shelf where it was coiled
up and was hanging beside the header in a loop like the trap in you
kitchen sink.
Do ya'll think that may have restricted flow and how do you guys route
your vent line, yet keep it long enough to accomodate wing folding?
Thanks
Jared
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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