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1. 03:38 AM - Re: GPS on panel (Fox5flyer)
2. 04:39 AM - Re: GPS on panel (Don Smythe)
3. 04:43 AM - Doors open. WAS GPS on panel (Michel Verheughe)
4. 05:44 AM - Re: GPS on panel (Cloughley, Bill)
5. 06:01 AM - 912 Spark Plugs & Air Filters (Len Shorethose)
6. 07:29 AM - Re: Doors open. WAS GPS on panel (Andrew Matthaey)
7. 09:37 AM - Ducati E-Box problem (Jim Burke)
8. 09:46 AM - Re: Doors open. WAS GPS on panel (Andrew Matthaey)
9. 12:42 PM - Beautiful Model III for sale (Gerns25@netscape.net)
10. 12:56 PM - Re: Ducati E-Box problem (Bob Robertson)
11. 07:15 PM - Re: Ducati E-Box problem (Jim Burke)
12. 07:36 PM - Re: Ducati E-Box problem (Bob Robertson)
13. 07:54 PM - Re: Ducati E-Box problem (Jim Burke)
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| Subject: | Re: GPS on panel |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Mike, there's no problem flying with the doors off. Gets a little windy if
you fly uncoordinated so make sure that anything laying around is secured or
you'll be searching the country side to find it. Charts will be the first
to go.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: GPS on panel
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am new to the list & I have a few topics that I'm sure many of you have
> insight on. I just finished my tailwheel signoff & required solo time & I
> was
>
> thinking about doing some flying with the doors off. Are there any
> tendencies
> I
> should be aware of or any good reasons why it would not be wise to remove
> the
> doors. Also, I am looking for a good way to mount my Garmin 196 GPS to
the
> panel. Does anyone know if they have a kit for that. If not, I was
> thinking
> of mounting some kind of short post to the top center of the panel & using
> the
>
> yoke clamp to attach it there. Any thoughts or ideas would be
appreciated.
>
> Fifteen hours & loving every minute of it!
>
> Mike Holzberger
> Classic IV Speedster 912
> Milwaukee, WI
>
> Hi ! Mike,
> I have a MKIV and a Garmin 55 AVD. I think physically
this
> might be the same as your 196 but don't hold me to that. Anyway mine sits
in
> a plastic cradle flat against the panel. It can just pull off for security
> but I hardly ever do. when you put it into the cradle it connects into the
> planes power at the back so I never need batteries. I bought the plane set
> up this way but I am fairly sure the mounting bracket and wiring comes
from
> Garmin as an accessory.
>
> Rex Shaw Australia.
> rexjan@bigpond.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GPS on panel |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
If you have the right door setup, there is an alternative to flying with the
doors off. I have the standard door (solid bottom/Lexan top). I attach the
upper lexan with screws around the door frame. In the summer, I take off
the upper lexan portion. This cuts down the draft a bit and gives you the
feeling of sitting in sports car. Just prop your elbow up on the ledge and
enjoy. Also, there are some passengers that get quite intimidated with the
doors off. This method gives you and the passengers a sense of security
with wide openness at the same time.
Don Smythe
Classic IV W/ 582
----- Original Message -----
>> thinking about doing some flying with the doors off. Are there any
>> tendencies
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| Subject: | Doors open. WAS GPS on panel |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Fox5flyer [morid@northland.lib.mi.us]
> Mike, there's no problem flying with the doors off. Gets a little windy if
> you fly uncoordinated so make sure that anything laying around is secured or
> you'll be searching the country side to find it. Charts will be the first
> to go.
... and make sure you have nothing in the left pocket of your trousers (if you
sit in the left seat). ... please don't ask me how I know! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cloughley, Bill" <BCloughl@ciena.com>
One possibility is getting a mount bracket to put a 196/296/396 in your
panel.
http://www.airgizmos.com/index.asp
Van's Aircraft Company also sells one:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1127219545-76-129&
browse=new&product=garmin-mount
... Bill
Kitfox I
Severna Park, MD
> Also, I am looking for a good way to mount my Garmin 196 GPS to the
panel. Does anyone know if they have a kit for that. If not, I was
thinking of mounting some kind of short post to the top center of the
panel & using the
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| Subject: | 912 Spark Plugs & Air Filters |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Len Shorethose" <toolowterrain@gmail.com>
For all you 912 operators....
I have 8 brand new NGK DCPR8E spark plugs left over that I'm trying to
sell. They have the removable end cap that unscrews.
I also have 2 brand new K & N performance washable air filters that attach
directly to the intakes of your Bing carbs. Part # R-1060
If anyone is interested in a good deal, please contact me off
list.......Thanks
Len Shorethose Barfbag@Verizon.net
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| Subject: | Doors open. WAS GPS on panel |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
I had a chart nearly go on me for the first time since getting my 'Fox. I
hit a bubble of air and the chart jumped off the right seat and into the
slipstrea. I grabbed one end just in time to catch it - I can't believe how
difficult it was to reel the thing back in. Took almost both my arms! So I
ended up saving the chart, except that the entire east quarter got ripped
off in the windstream. Just my luck that it was the entire local and short
Andrew
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>From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Doors open. WAS GPS on panel
>Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:43:27 +0200 (CEST)
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> > From: Fox5flyer [morid@northland.lib.mi.us]
> > Mike, there's no problem flying with the doors off. Gets a little windy
>if
> > you fly uncoordinated so make sure that anything laying around is
>secured or
> > you'll be searching the country side to find it. Charts will be the
>first
> > to go.
>
>... and make sure you have nothing in the left pocket of your trousers (if
>you sit in the left seat). ... please don't ask me how I know! :-)
>
>Cheers,
>Michel
>
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Ducati E-Box problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
Just Like most of the Kitfox flyers on the list, I set back and take advantage
of all the great ideas and information posted and feel guilty I don't have much
to offer when it comes to contributing trouble shooting. I can't say enough
good things about the input from experienced owners to help there fellow flyers.
With that said I once again need to ask for a little help myself with a problem
I am having. It would seem I have a Ducati E-Box that has went or is going
bad and I'm not sure I know the proper way to trouble shoot my problem. At 300.00
a pop I would like to know my investment would fix my problem. If I could
get a list from one of you more educated in trouble shooting the Ducati E-Box
I would be most grateful. I have done a little trouble shooting and the results
are listed below.
Mag Check:
#1 1000 rpm drop
#2 50 rpm drop
# 1 unplugged # 2 plugged= static 5500 rpm
# 2 unplugged # 1 plugged= static 6200 rpm
Both # 1 and # 2 plugged= static 5000 rpm
Normal static rpms is 6300 when all systems are go.
I hope this much information will help.
Thanks in advance,
Jim 94JE IV-1200 582
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| Subject: | Doors open. WAS GPS on panel |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Has anybody else on the list noticed parts of words and sentances not making
the "cut?" My last post was somewhat shorter than what I sent...
Andrew
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>From: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Doors open. WAS GPS on panel
>Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 10:28:37 -0400
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey"
><spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
>
>I had a chart nearly go on me for the first time since getting my 'Fox. I
>hit a bubble of air and the chart jumped off the right seat and into the
>slipstrea. I grabbed one end just in time to catch it - I can't believe how
>difficult it was to reel the thing back in. Took almost both my arms! So I
>ended up saving the chart, except that the entire east quarter got ripped
>off in the windstream. Just my luck that it was the entire local and short
>
>Andrew
>
>do not archive
>
>
> >From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Kitfox-List: Doors open. WAS GPS on panel
> >Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:43:27 +0200 (CEST)
> >
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> >
> > > From: Fox5flyer [morid@northland.lib.mi.us]
> > > Mike, there's no problem flying with the doors off. Gets a little
>windy
> >if
> > > you fly uncoordinated so make sure that anything laying around is
> >secured or
> > > you'll be searching the country side to find it. Charts will be the
> >first
> > > to go.
> >
> >... and make sure you have nothing in the left pocket of your trousers
>(if
> >you sit in the left seat). ... please don't ask me how I know! :-)
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Michel
> >
> >do not archive
> >
> >
>
>Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
>http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
>
>
Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
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| Subject: | Beautiful Model III for sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gerns25@netscape.net
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Extremely clean and maticulously cared for. This is one of the nicest kitfoxes
I have seen anywhere (It was built by Mr. Kitfox himself, Ed Downs - Former Skystar
President). Many upgrades that were built into the kit make it more similar
to the Classic IV than the Model III. The interior is a 10/10 and the exterior
is 9.5/10. Email me for spec sheet and included items, pics can be seen
on Barnstormers.com. Asking $27k, reasonable offers considered.
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| Subject: | Re: Ducati E-Box problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
Jim,
For yours and everyone elses information on the list.... A sure way to
weaken or even blow an e-box is to run the engine with the spark plug cap
disconnected from the spark plugs. Hopefully you have not done any damage.
I cannot e-mail you a test page, but if you e-mail me a fax munber I will
gladly send you a page outlining the various tests you need to do to
determine serviceablility of the ignition system parts. You will need a
multi-meter (ohm meter) to do these tests,
regards
Bob Robertson
Light Engine Services Ltd.
Rotax Service Center
St. Albert, Ab. T8N 1M8
Ph: (Tech Support) 1-780-418-4164
Ph: (Order Line) 1-866-418-4164 (TOLL FREE)
www.rtx-av-engines.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Burke" <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Ducati E-Box problem
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
>
> Just Like most of the Kitfox flyers on the list, I set back and take
advantage of all the great ideas and information posted and feel guilty I
don't have much to offer when it comes to contributing trouble shooting. I
can't say enough good things about the input from experienced owners to help
there fellow flyers.
> With that said I once again need to ask for a little help myself with
a problem I am having. It would seem I have a Ducati E-Box that has went or
is going bad and I'm not sure I know the proper way to trouble shoot my
problem. At 300.00 a pop I would like to know my investment would fix my
problem. If I could get a list from one of you more educated in trouble
shooting the Ducati E-Box I would be most grateful. I have done a little
trouble shooting and the results are listed below.
>
> Mag Check:
> #1 1000 rpm drop
> #2 50 rpm drop
> # 1 unplugged # 2 plugged= static 5500 rpm
> # 2 unplugged # 1 plugged= static 6200 rpm
> Both # 1 and # 2 plugged= static 5000 rpm
>
> Normal static rpms is 6300 when all systems are go.
> I hope this much information will help.
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jim 94JE IV-1200 582
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ducati E-Box problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
Bob, I should have said I disconnected the plug going to the e-box, and not
the plug wires. But I do appreciate the heads up. Darn the luck and the
electronic age, I for one have trashed my faxes at the house and at the
office for the sake of e-mail. I do have a friend that has a fax and I'm she
will accept the fax for me. As soon as I get Her fax number I'l let you
know. At this point I can use all the help I can get.
Thanks
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Robertson" <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ducati E-Box problem
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson"
> <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
>
> Jim,
> For yours and everyone elses information on the list.... A sure way to
> weaken or even blow an e-box is to run the engine with the spark plug cap
> disconnected from the spark plugs. Hopefully you have not done any
> damage.
> I cannot e-mail you a test page, but if you e-mail me a fax munber I will
> gladly send you a page outlining the various tests you need to do to
> determine serviceablility of the ignition system parts. You will need a
> multi-meter (ohm meter) to do these tests,
>
> regards
>
> Bob Robertson
> Light Engine Services Ltd.
> Rotax Service Center
> St. Albert, Ab. T8N 1M8
> Ph: (Tech Support) 1-780-418-4164
> Ph: (Order Line) 1-866-418-4164 (TOLL FREE)
> www.rtx-av-engines.ca
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Burke" <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Ducati E-Box problem
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
>>
>> Just Like most of the Kitfox flyers on the list, I set back and take
> advantage of all the great ideas and information posted and feel guilty I
> don't have much to offer when it comes to contributing trouble shooting. I
> can't say enough good things about the input from experienced owners to
> help
> there fellow flyers.
>> With that said I once again need to ask for a little help myself with
> a problem I am having. It would seem I have a Ducati E-Box that has went
> or
> is going bad and I'm not sure I know the proper way to trouble shoot my
> problem. At 300.00 a pop I would like to know my investment would fix my
> problem. If I could get a list from one of you more educated in trouble
> shooting the Ducati E-Box I would be most grateful. I have done a little
> trouble shooting and the results are listed below.
>>
>> Mag Check:
>> #1 1000 rpm drop
>> #2 50 rpm drop
>> # 1 unplugged # 2 plugged= static 5500 rpm
>> # 2 unplugged # 1 plugged= static 6200 rpm
>> Both # 1 and # 2 plugged= static 5000 rpm
>>
>> Normal static rpms is 6300 when all systems are go.
>> I hope this much information will help.
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Jim 94JE IV-1200 582
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ducati E-Box problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
Jim,
Wheww!, I just today had to tell a customer that he blew an e-box.
The dead air on the other end of the phone line is deafening.
I am going to try scanning the page and then sending to you via e-mail.
Yup!, darned electronic age means I have to learn new stuff.
If you don't get the page, send a fax number...
regards
Bob R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Burke" <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ducati E-Box problem
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
>
> Bob, I should have said I disconnected the plug going to the e-box, and
not
> the plug wires. But I do appreciate the heads up. Darn the luck and the
> electronic age, I for one have trashed my faxes at the house and at the
> office for the sake of e-mail. I do have a friend that has a fax and I'm
she
> will accept the fax for me. As soon as I get Her fax number I'l let you
> know. At this point I can use all the help I can get.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Robertson" <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ducati E-Box problem
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson"
> > <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
> >
> > Jim,
> > For yours and everyone elses information on the list.... A sure way to
> > weaken or even blow an e-box is to run the engine with the spark plug
cap
> > disconnected from the spark plugs. Hopefully you have not done any
> > damage.
> > I cannot e-mail you a test page, but if you e-mail me a fax munber I
will
> > gladly send you a page outlining the various tests you need to do to
> > determine serviceablility of the ignition system parts. You will need a
> > multi-meter (ohm meter) to do these tests,
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Bob Robertson
> > Light Engine Services Ltd.
> > Rotax Service Center
> > St. Albert, Ab. T8N 1M8
> > Ph: (Tech Support) 1-780-418-4164
> > Ph: (Order Line) 1-866-418-4164 (TOLL FREE)
> > www.rtx-av-engines.ca
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Burke" <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Ducati E-Box problem
> >
> >
> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
> >>
> >> Just Like most of the Kitfox flyers on the list, I set back and take
> > advantage of all the great ideas and information posted and feel guilty
I
> > don't have much to offer when it comes to contributing trouble shooting.
I
> > can't say enough good things about the input from experienced owners to
> > help
> > there fellow flyers.
> >> With that said I once again need to ask for a little help myself
with
> > a problem I am having. It would seem I have a Ducati E-Box that has went
> > or
> > is going bad and I'm not sure I know the proper way to trouble shoot my
> > problem. At 300.00 a pop I would like to know my investment would fix my
> > problem. If I could get a list from one of you more educated in trouble
> > shooting the Ducati E-Box I would be most grateful. I have done a little
> > trouble shooting and the results are listed below.
> >>
> >> Mag Check:
> >> #1 1000 rpm drop
> >> #2 50 rpm drop
> >> # 1 unplugged # 2 plugged= static 5500 rpm
> >> # 2 unplugged # 1 plugged= static 6200 rpm
> >> Both # 1 and # 2 plugged= static 5000 rpm
> >>
> >> Normal static rpms is 6300 when all systems are go.
> >> I hope this much information will help.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Jim 94JE IV-1200 582
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ducati E-Box problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
Bob, If it makes it easier for you she has given me her fax number
812-878-4187
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Robertson" <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ducati E-Box problem
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson"
> <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
>
> Jim,
> Wheww!, I just today had to tell a customer that he blew an e-box.
> The dead air on the other end of the phone line is deafening.
> I am going to try scanning the page and then sending to you via e-mail.
> Yup!, darned electronic age means I have to learn new stuff.
> If you don't get the page, send a fax number...
>
> regards
>
> Bob R
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Burke" <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ducati E-Box problem
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
>>
>> Bob, I should have said I disconnected the plug going to the e-box, and
> not
>> the plug wires. But I do appreciate the heads up. Darn the luck and the
>> electronic age, I for one have trashed my faxes at the house and at the
>> office for the sake of e-mail. I do have a friend that has a fax and I'm
> she
>> will accept the fax for me. As soon as I get Her fax number I'l let you
>> know. At this point I can use all the help I can get.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jim
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bob Robertson" <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ducati E-Box problem
>>
>>
>> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson"
>> > <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
>> >
>> > Jim,
>> > For yours and everyone elses information on the list.... A sure way to
>> > weaken or even blow an e-box is to run the engine with the spark plug
> cap
>> > disconnected from the spark plugs. Hopefully you have not done any
>> > damage.
>> > I cannot e-mail you a test page, but if you e-mail me a fax munber I
> will
>> > gladly send you a page outlining the various tests you need to do to
>> > determine serviceablility of the ignition system parts. You will need
>> > a
>> > multi-meter (ohm meter) to do these tests,
>> >
>> > regards
>> >
>> > Bob Robertson
>> > Light Engine Services Ltd.
>> > Rotax Service Center
>> > St. Albert, Ab. T8N 1M8
>> > Ph: (Tech Support) 1-780-418-4164
>> > Ph: (Order Line) 1-866-418-4164 (TOLL FREE)
>> > www.rtx-av-engines.ca
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Jim Burke" <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
>> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Ducati E-Box problem
>> >
>> >
>> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke
>> >> <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
>> >>
>> >> Just Like most of the Kitfox flyers on the list, I set back and take
>> > advantage of all the great ideas and information posted and feel guilty
> I
>> > don't have much to offer when it comes to contributing trouble
>> > shooting.
> I
>> > can't say enough good things about the input from experienced owners to
>> > help
>> > there fellow flyers.
>> >> With that said I once again need to ask for a little help myself
> with
>> > a problem I am having. It would seem I have a Ducati E-Box that has
>> > went
>> > or
>> > is going bad and I'm not sure I know the proper way to trouble shoot my
>> > problem. At 300.00 a pop I would like to know my investment would fix
>> > my
>> > problem. If I could get a list from one of you more educated in trouble
>> > shooting the Ducati E-Box I would be most grateful. I have done a
>> > little
>> > trouble shooting and the results are listed below.
>> >>
>> >> Mag Check:
>> >> #1 1000 rpm drop
>> >> #2 50 rpm drop
>> >> # 1 unplugged # 2 plugged= static 5500 rpm
>> >> # 2 unplugged # 1 plugged= static 6200 rpm
>> >> Both # 1 and # 2 plugged= static 5000 rpm
>> >>
>> >> Normal static rpms is 6300 when all systems are go.
>> >> I hope this much information will help.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance,
>> >> Jim 94JE IV-1200 582
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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>
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