Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 12:10 AM - Re: electric Gyros (Michael Gibbs)
2. 05:19 AM - (no subject) (RV73HL@aol.com)
3. 05:19 AM - (no subject) (RV73HL@aol.com)
4. 06:00 AM - Re: Kitfox Slats (Colin Durey)
5. 08:16 AM - kf5 landing gear ()
6. 10:15 AM - Rotax 582 oil injection resevoir needed (Gill Levesque)
7. 11:17 AM - Re: Kitfox IV Wing Construction (Jerry Liles)
8. 01:43 PM - Wing Construction (RV73HL@aol.com)
9. 04:20 PM - New Hampshire - Anyone ()
10. 04:23 PM - Re: Kitfox IV Wing Construction (Les Chambers)
11. 06:56 PM - Re: Kitfox IV Wing Construction (david yeamans)
12. 07:45 PM - Re: Kitfox IV Wing Construction (Les Chambers)
13. 07:53 PM - Cooling Question (Napier, Mark)
14. 09:08 PM - Re: Rotax 582 oil injection resevoir needed (Guy Buchanan)
15. 10:06 PM - Re: Cooling Question (Rick)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: electric Gyros |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Michel sez:
>Ah, you see! ... does my age show? :-)
Oh, now you KNOW that's not what I meant :-) Ring lasers were the
first things I thought of too!
Mike G
N728KF
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RV73HL@aol.com
Grant:
Thanks for the info.
Howard
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RV73HL@aol.com
Hi Frank:
Thanks for the info.
Fly Safe.
Howard
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Slats |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey" <colin@ptclhk.com>
Brian,
I am very interested in the slats you have developed. I am in Australia,
and am familiar with the 3/4 scale version of the Feissler Storch that is
being sold as a kit by Nestor Slepchev out here. It is an amazing aircraft
to watch,virtually leaping off the ground into a very slight headwind.
With about 5-8kts breeze, Nestor can get his Storch into the air in about
30 mtrs, and then into a power climb (about 60 degrees - not sure of the
vertical rate)within about another 10 - 15 mtrs.
I am close to being ready to put the fabric on my Classic IV wings
(standard), so its an opportune time to consider what you have developed.
Regards
Colin Durey
(Sydney)
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | kf5 landing gear |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <jgh54@netscape.com>
have small bow in front outside leg, does anyone have a replacement they want to
get rid of, not sure about straightening it, was told with only 3/16 bow it
would be ok. has anyone staightened one
Netscape. Just the Net You Need.
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Rotax 582 oil injection resevoir needed |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca>
Hi all 582 pilots,
I found a crack in the plastic oilinjection resevoirof my model 4 the other
day and need a replacement! anyone have a used or unused one for sale!!
Anyone have any other ideas for replacements???
Thanx
Gil Levesque
Kitfox Model 4 1050 582
C-IGVL
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Kitfox IV Wing Construction |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
Way back when in the last century, Avid, and I presume Kitfox, supplied
a special cleaner to use on the aluminum tubes. First you would remove
the surface oxide coat with scotch brite, wipe the tube with a clean
cloth, and then paint on the cleaner. It was extremely volitile and
almost immediately evaporated leaving a thin film of white powder that
would be wiped off just before alpplying the adhesive. It was so
volatile that the cans had to be sealed with a bead of silicone adhesive
to keep it from evaporating straight out of the can. This was an
extremely effective method but eventually it no longer met EPA regs. By
the way another name for aluminum oxide is Saphire.
Frank & Phyllis wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Frank & Phyllis <frank.phyllis@mindspring.com>
>
>My understanding is that the use of the scotch brite pad is to remove
>the thin film of surface corrosion on the aluminum. This process
>(alcohol/pad/alcohol) should be accomplished _immediately _before
>applying epoxy. I received the quick-build kit (ribs & false ribs
>attached). When unloading from the crate I slightly bumped one of the
>false ribs and it came loose from the spar. I tapped several false ribs
>and they all came loose. SkyStar said it's possible the spar was
>cleaned as prescribed (you could see the prep marks on the spar) but
>they (SkyStar) might not have applied the epoxy immediately (hours of
>delay--not days) and they deduced the aluminum had "re-oxidized" which
>inhibited the epoxy's adherance to the spar. SkyStar replaced both wings.
>Frank
>
>Grant Fluent wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>>
>>Howard,
>> In my opinion, there's no dumb questions here.
>>Everyone has had to start from the beginning at some
>>point in time.
>> I prepped my spars for the adhesive by first
>>cleaning the area with denatured alcohol and then
>>using red scotch brite pads to roughen the area. After
>>that, I cleaned the area again with the alcohol. This
>>procedure is in the Classic IV builder's manual in the
>>"Builder's Tips" section. I used the 3M 2216 adhesive
>>that came in the kit and used the cotton flox (also in
>>the kit) to make it thicker and stronger. Some have
>>used Hysol instead of the 2216 adhesive and say that
>>it works much better because it stays in place easier
>>without the tendency to run. I have no experience with
>>the Hysol but others say it works well.
>>
>>Grant Fluent
>>Newcastle, NE
>>Classic IV 912S
>>
>>
>>--- RV73HL@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RV73HL@aol.com
>>>
>>>I was told by a friend who has an Avid Flyer that
>>>when he built his wings,
>>>they had a "Alum Cleaner" to wipe the spar tubes
>>>with, before attaching the
>>>ribs with the Adhesive. Does Kitfox have such a
>>>cleaner, and if so , what is it
>>>called?
>>>
>>>One more question...what is Cotton Flox , and where
>>>is it used?
>>>
>>>I know these are dumb questions, but one doesn't
>>>know, the best way to learn
>>>is ask a group that does.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Howard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>browse
>>>Subscriptions page,
>>>FAQ,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>-----------------------------------------------
>Scanned by Bayou Internet for all known viruses.
>http://www.bayou.com
>
>
>-----------------------------------------------
>Scanned by Bayou Internet for all known viruses.
>http://www.bayou.com
>
>
>
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Wing Construction |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RV73HL@aol.com
Hi Jerry:
Thanks for the info. That helps me a lot.
Fly Safe.
Howard
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | New Hampshire - Anyone |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <highwaystar47@yahoo.com>
I live on Swains lake in Barrington, NH. Looking for anyone with a Kitfox Lite.
I want to build one on floats. The floats are wood that I'm building from plans.
Going for my Sport pilots license and will train in a Piper J-3, then to
PA-12, Piper Super Cruiser for float rating. Would like to meet fellow Lite owners
or anyone on floats. To talk shop or training. If not a Lite, maybe a Kitfox
bigger brother.
Steve
---------------------------------
Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Kitfox IV Wing Construction |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Les Chambers" <l_chambers@ckt.net>
No, Saphire was the Kingfish's wife.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Liles" <wliles@bayou.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV Wing Construction
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
>
> Way back when in the last century, Avid, and I presume Kitfox, supplied
> a special cleaner to use on the aluminum tubes.
> extremely effective method but eventually it no longer met EPA regs. By
> the way another name for aluminum oxide is Saphire.
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Kitfox IV Wing Construction |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "david yeamans" <dafox@ckt.net>
Les, Wasn't Saphire Amos's Sister also ?
----- Original Message -----
From: Les Chambers
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV Wing Construction
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Les Chambers" <l_chambers@ckt.net>
No, Saphire was the Kingfish's wife.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Liles" <wliles@bayou.com>
To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV Wing Construction
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
>
> Way back when in the last century, Avid, and I presume Kitfox, supplied
> a special cleaner to use on the aluminum tubes.
> extremely effective method but eventually it no longer met EPA regs. By
> the way another name for aluminum oxide is Saphire.
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Kitfox IV Wing Construction |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Les Chambers" <l_chambers@ckt.net>
You know, Amos never got much air time. The whole show was usually just
Kingfish & Andy.
I didn't remember she was, but that seems likely.
Wonder if Jerry gets the joke? Do you know he's a retired field artillery
major down in Louisanna somewhere? I sent him a e-mail asking if he's
keeping his powder dry!
Buster
----- Original Message -----
From: "david yeamans" <dafox@ckt.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV Wing Construction
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "david yeamans" <dafox@ckt.net>
>
> Les, Wasn't Saphire Amos's Sister also ?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Les Chambers
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV Wing Construction
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Les Chambers" <l_chambers@ckt.net>
>
> No, Saphire was the Kingfish's wife.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Liles" <wliles@bayou.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV Wing Construction
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
> >
> > Way back when in the last century, Avid, and I presume Kitfox, supplied
> > a special cleaner to use on the aluminum tubes.
>
> > extremely effective method but eventually it no longer met EPA regs.
> By
> > the way another name for aluminum oxide is Saphire.
>
>
>
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
"'owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com '"
<owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com>
| Subject: | Cooling Question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Napier, Mark" <Mark.Napier@sciatl.com>
My Kitfox III 582 has cooling problems. I've worked through the
instruments, engine timing, jetting, etc. and have come to the conclusion
that the little belly radiator is too small. I've dropped it down 2" into
the airstream and tried a big belly scoop, still no better. I've flown it
and it cools exactly the same in the air as on the ground.
I've been looking longingly at that big beautiful NACA cowl on the front.
That thing is designed to pass in air at the root of the prop, compress it
through the engine cylinders, and expell it out exit ramps at the sides.
Also, the part of the belly radiator that does any good is only 4" X 18".
So how about mounting one or two radiators off of the type C gear box?
Plenty of room there to easily double the radiator area. Then baffle the
radiator front cowl. Would have to do a small box for the air cleaner and
hoses to cool the fuel pump and gascolator.
Anyone else heard of this being done?
- - - - - - - Appended by Scientific-Atlanta, Inc. - - - - - - -
This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is confidential,
proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The information is solely
intended for the named addressee (or a person responsible for delivering it
to the addressee). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you
are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or
any part of it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the
sender immediately by return e-mail and delete it from your computer.
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Rotax 582 oil injection resevoir needed |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 10:14 AM 9/24/2005, you wrote:
...
> I found a crack in the plastic oilinjection resevoirof my model 4 the
> other day and need a replacement! anyone have a used or unused one for sale!!
Gil,
Which one do you have? Is it the 2 liter Nalgene? If so I can help
you find a replacement.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar.
Message 15
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Cooling Question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Not a 582 but take a look at the Engelfeller subaru set up. Sounds like what
your talking about.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Napier, Mark
'owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com '
Subject: Kitfox-List: Cooling Question
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Napier, Mark" <Mark.Napier@sciatl.com>
My Kitfox III 582 has cooling problems. I've worked through the
instruments, engine timing, jetting, etc. and have come to the conclusion
that the little belly radiator is too small. I've dropped it down 2" into
the airstream and tried a big belly scoop, still no better. I've flown it
and it cools exactly the same in the air as on the ground.
I've been looking longingly at that big beautiful NACA cowl on the front.
That thing is designed to pass in air at the root of the prop, compress it
through the engine cylinders, and expell it out exit ramps at the sides.
Also, the part of the belly radiator that does any good is only 4" X 18".
So how about mounting one or two radiators off of the type C gear box?
Plenty of room there to easily double the radiator area. Then baffle the
radiator front cowl. Would have to do a small box for the air cleaner and
hoses to cool the fuel pump and gascolator.
Anyone else heard of this being done?
- - - - - - - Appended by Scientific-Atlanta, Inc. - - - - - - -
This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is
confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The
information is solely intended for the named addressee (or a person
responsible for delivering it to the addressee). If you are not the intended
recipient of this message, you are not authorized to read, print, retain,
copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received
this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail
and delete it from your computer.
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|