---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/03/05: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:03 AM - Model 1V with NSI & CAP system (Graeme Toft) 2. 04:02 AM - Re: Model 1V with NSI & CAP system (Fox5flyer) 3. 04:50 AM - SV: Nose over (Michel Verheughe) 4. 06:50 AM - 912UL Compression Testing (Gerns25@netscape.net) 5. 09:07 AM - Re: Nose over (Bruce Harrington) 6. 09:10 AM - Re: Model 4 tailspring (Gill Levesque) 7. 09:20 AM - Re: Model 1V with NSI & CAP system (jdmcbean) 8. 11:43 AM - Re: Model 4 tailspring (Bruce Harrington) 9. 11:54 AM - Re: Re: Engine Stuff (Guy Buchanan) 10. 12:12 PM - Re: Re: Engine Stuff (Don Smythe) 11. 01:02 PM - Re: Nose over (Michel Verheughe) 12. 01:05 PM - Re: Model 4 tailspring (John Anderson) 13. 04:32 PM - Re: Model 4 tailspring (jablackwell) 14. 05:04 PM - Re: Nose over (Bruce Harrington) 15. 05:14 PM - Re: Great engine info . how does one properly change the oil in the small Tank? (John Ciolino) 16. 09:27 PM - rudder pedals (Bob Unternaehrer) 17. 09:27 PM - wheel landings (Bob Unternaehrer) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:34 AM PST US From: "Graeme Toft" Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 1V with NSI & CAP system --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" Hi Guys, well there comes a time when you have to bite the bullet and go with your gut feelings. This said I have just sent $5000 as deposit on a model 1V with the NSI motor and CAP system. I received lots of information from listers, some good, some bad but all genuine and most spoke from experience. At the end of the day I am comfortable with my decision to purchase this aircraft. I flew it over the weekend and to say its impressive is an understatement. This is one serious machine. Thanks to all who gave me their time to comment, particularly Lowell and Steve Z. 2 diametrically opposed views which provided balance to my decision. I pick it up on the weekend of the 15-16 Oct. The owner has generously agreed to fly it up to Brisbane if I get him back home. If anyone in Australia is looking for a Model 1 I just happen to know somebody whose selling one. Do not archive Cheers Graeme Toft ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:02:04 AM PST US From: "Fox5flyer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Model 1V with NSI & CAP system --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" Congrats Graeme. I'm sure you'll enjoy your choice. Have fun! Deke > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" > > Hi Guys, well there comes a time when you have to bite the bullet and go with your gut feelings. This said I have just sent $5000 as deposit on a model 1V with the NSI motor and CAP system. I received lots of information from listers, some good, some bad but all genuine and most spoke from experience. At the end of the day I am comfortable with my decision to purchase this aircraft. I flew it over the weekend and to say its impressive is an understatement. This is one serious machine. Thanks to all who gave me their time to comment, particularly Lowell and Steve Z. 2 diametrically opposed views which provided balance to my decision. I pick it up on the weekend of the 15-16 Oct. The owner has generously agreed to fly it up to Brisbane if I get him back home. If anyone in Australia is looking for a Model 1 I just happen to know somebody whose selling one. > > Do not archive > > Cheers > > Graeme Toft > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:50:10 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: Nose over --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe > From: Rex & Jan Shaw [rexjan@bigpond.com] > The cause was landing on soft sand and slightly > down hill. Thanks Rex. I guess that's right, something like soft sand or very uneven terrain, will act as a kind of brake on the wheels and since the CoG is above it, the result will be a nose over. Hum, I better stay away from sand, stones, cows, trolls ... :-) Does anyone know how it is to land e.g. in a field of wheat corn? Cheers, Michel do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:31 AM PST US From: Gerns25@netscape.net Subject: Kitfox-List: 912UL Compression Testing --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gerns25@netscape.net Can anyone tell me what the acceptable compression range should be on a 750 hr. 912UL? What would be my max. and what would be my min. that would be ok? And also what would be the max. acceptable pressure gradient be between any two cylinders? Thanks guys, Darin Hawkes N323MM - Model III 912UL Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:48 AM PST US From: "Bruce Harrington" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Nose over --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" Hi Michel, That's a new one for me. What's a wheat corn? Big corn cob with little kernels? Little cob with little kernels? Maize? Cheers, bh > Does anyone know how it is to land e.g. in a field of wheat corn? > > Cheers, > Michel > do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:52 AM PST US From: Gill Levesque Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Model 4 tailspring --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque Wiseguy!!!!! Tried them and bounced all over!!! Gil Brian Rodgers wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brian Rodgers" Wheel landings... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gill Levesque" Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 4 tailspring > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque > > Well!! > Broke another tail spring!!!Have to replace it!!! What do you guy's suggest > > > Gil Levesque > C-IGVL > > > --------------------------------- > > --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:20:02 AM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Model 1V with NSI & CAP system --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" Graeme, At the end of the day I am comfortable with my decision.. That is what really matters.. make a decision based on facts as you know them... Congrats on your new purchase.. now go have fun with it... Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Graeme Toft Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 1V with NSI & CAP system --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" Hi Guys, well there comes a time when you have to bite the bullet and go with your gut feelings. This said I have just sent $5000 as deposit on a model 1V with the NSI motor and CAP system. I received lots of information from listers, some good, some bad but all genuine and most spoke from experience. to purchase this aircraft. I flew it over the weekend and to say its impressive is an understatement. This is one serious machine. Thanks to all who gave me their time to comment, particularly Lowell and Steve Z. 2 diametrically opposed views which provided balance to my decision. I pick it up on the weekend of the 15-16 Oct. The owner has generously agreed to fly it up to Brisbane if I get him back home. If anyone in Australia is looking for a Model 1 I just happen to know somebody whose selling one. Do not archive Cheers Graeme Toft ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:45 AM PST US From: "Bruce Harrington" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Model 4 tailspring --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" Hitting the ground too fast! hold it off in the flare a bit longer. bh > Wiseguy!!!!! Tried them and bounced all over!!! > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:54:58 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Engine Stuff --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan At 10:33 AM 10/2/2005, you wrote: >Fires up real good compared to other methods I've tried. Thanks Don. It's quite a process. I'll try the choke for a while, since I can't face doing the requisite firewall work for a primer right now. Also, I have a clutch so can't pull the prop through by hand. (I guess I'd just hit the starter a few times.) Guy Buchanan K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:12:23 PM PST US From: "Don Smythe" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Engine Stuff --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" Primer only takes one 1/4" hole in the firewall. All the other stuff is under the panel. Don Smythe Classic IV W/ 582 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Buchanan" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Engine Stuff > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan > > At 10:33 AM 10/2/2005, you wrote: >>Fires up real good compared to other methods I've tried. > > Thanks Don. It's quite a process. I'll try the choke for a while, since I > can't face doing the requisite firewall work for a primer right now. Also, > I have a clutch so can't pull the prop through by hand. (I guess I'd just > hit the starter a few times.) > > > Guy Buchanan > K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99% done, thanks to Bob Ducar. > > Do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:02:27 PM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Nose over --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe Bruce Harrington wrote: > That's a new one for me. What's a wheat corn? I don't know, Bruce. I thought that wheat, oat and barley were different kinds of corn. At least, in British English. But, obviously, I am wrong. Please, correct me. Cheers, Michel do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:05:39 PM PST US From: "John Anderson" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Model 4 tailspring --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" Wheelers. Let it settle in the early part part of the flare until the tail just begins to drop, then a small check forward until the mains scuff then a second more pronounced check forward. None of these high speed wheelers for me, tail low every time, takes the sting out..~j~ From: Gill Levesque Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Model 4 tailspring --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque Wiseguy!!!!! Tried them and bounced all over!!! Gil Brian Rodgers wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brian Rodgers" Wheel landings... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gill Levesque" To: Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 4 tailspring >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque > >Well!! >Broke another tail spring!!!Have to replace it!!! What do you guy's suggest > > >Gil Levesque >C-IGVL > > >--------------------------------- > > --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:32:58 PM PST US From: " jablackwell" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Model 4 tailspring --> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell" Since Brian is a fried of mine I feel free to comment on his wheel landings. The real story is that Brian has never made the transition from nose gear to conventional. Still looking for the nose wheel. Stick with three point landings and stop in half the distance. Jimmie ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Gill Levesque >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque > >Wiseguy!!!!! Tried them and bounced all over!!! > Gil > >Brian Rodgers wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brian Rodgers" > > >Wheel landings... > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gill Levesque" >To: >Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 4 tailspring > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque >> >> Well!! >> Broke another tail spring!!!Have to replace it!!! What do you guy's >suggest >> >> >> Gil Levesque >> C-IGVL >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> > > > >--------------------------------- > > Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:04:36 PM PST US From: "Bruce Harrington" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Nose over --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" Hi Michel, I don't know where to start! Maybe some English lads can help out! Cheerio, bh > I don't know, Bruce. I thought that wheat, oat and barley were different > kinds > of corn. At least, in British English. But, obviously, I am wrong. Please, > correct me. > > Cheers, > Michel > do not archive ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:22 PM PST US From: "John Ciolino" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Great engine info . how does one properly change the oil in the small Tank? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Ciolino" Get a JC Whitney catalog and order a battery powered oil pump. It is pistol grip shaped,green and cost about $30. Take the top off the tank. Put the intake tube in the oil, run the out flow tube into a can and turn on the pump. Makes it easy. John Ciolino' Model IV-1200 ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Kitfox-List: Great engine info . how does one properly change the oil in the small Tank? > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:27:23 PM PST US From: "Bob Unternaehrer" Subject: Kitfox-List: rudder pedals --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" Does anyone have a set of rudder pedals for a Model IV or a Clasic IV.for Sale. I'm looking for a complete mechanism or Just the top swivel sections that your feet operate and fit the Matco Cylinders Blue Skies Bob Unternaehrer shilocom@mcmsys.com ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:27:51 PM PST US From: "Bob Unternaehrer" Subject: Kitfox-List: wheel landings --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" I had one of the WORST 1hr lessons I ever had when learning to wheel land. After bouncing and a little bit of everything else, the instructor ( an ag spray pilot) proceeded to do a great one,,,but he couldn't seem to teach me how. When he exited the airplane, I ask it he thought I was safe enough to try some more by my self...His comment was....Welllll, You didn't bend the airplane. I tried another one immeiately and it was a greaser and been doing them ever since. The more spring in the gear, the harder they are and the more forward stick need to "Plant it on".. Do your practicing on a grass strip if available and use some power at first. Getting the airplane to the proper attitude and sink rate, as well as not being afraid to get the stick forward at the right time was the key for me,,,,,and for sure stay of of the brakes and dance on the rudder pedals Blue Skies Bob Unternaehrer shilocom@mcmsys.com