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˙˙˙˙
˙˙˙˙<˙˙˙˙idth˙˙˙˙%" a˙˙˙˙="le˙˙˙˙<˙˙˙˙ siz˙˙˙˙face˙˙˙˙mes ˙˙˙˙roma˙˙˙˙imes˙˙˙˙lor=˙˙˙˙0000˙˙˙˙me: ˙˙˙˙><˙˙˙˙:38:˙˙˙˙M PS˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ | | Subject: | Re: VFR Lighting Requirements |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
You only need a good anti-collision light if you plan on flying the 30 min's
before/after sunrise/sunset.
Andrew
>From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>, <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: VFR Lighting Requirements Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005
>09:23:19 -0500
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
>
>There's no requirement for lights for day VFR.
>
>
>--- Original Message ---
>From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: VFR Lighting
>Requirements INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -
>4.4912
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko"
><vicwj@earthlink.net>
> >
> >I saw Van's new RV 10 in TX and he did not have
>strobes or nav lights.
> >
> >Vic
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Guy Buchanan" <bnn@nethere.com>
> >To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>; <kitfox-
>list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Kitfox-List: VFR Lighting Requirements
>INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000
> >1.0000 -4.4912
> >
> >
> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan
><bnn@nethere.com>
> >>
> >> All,
> >> Currently my day VFR Kitfox has no lights.
>It appears I am
> >> required to run an anti-collision light at a
>minimum. (FAR 91.205b11) Does
> >> this sound correct? Does anyone have a
>recommendation for a minimalist
> >> anti-collision light system?
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance,
> >>
> >>
> >> Guy Buchanan
> >> K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob
>Ducar.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >_-
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>
>
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| Subject: | Parts for Sale for 912S |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Todd Lesh" <theleshfamily@gbronline.com>
I am sorry if the report is true about Skystar.
If anyone is interested in these parts please let me know-I have been
building an Avid.
-brand new Skystar 912/s choke kit-was $52 with shipping-now $35
includes shipping
-brand new 912s Rotax radiator. Is $346 retail plus $20 shipping -now
$310 includes shipping
-radiator brackets for 912S radiator hangs in front of engine like the
Avid-$50
-912S installation DVD-pretty good DVD-$18
email or call 7042315204
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| Subject: | Upper Strut Attach Point |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 06:42 PM 10/17/2005, you wrote:
>Personally, I wouldn't worry about
>those rod end fittings unless you're used to pulling over 5Gs regularly.
I went back and reduced the strut loads by an 80 pound wing weight and 78
pounds of fuel in the inboard 36". This reduced the nominal 1-g strut load
to 636 pounds which improved the eye safety factor to 4.9 and the threaded
rod safety factor to 5.3, both still well below 6. The eye safety factor
reduces the Vno by about 10%, bringing it from 99 mph to 89 mph.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Clevis movement |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Many years ago before Skystar, I think it was Dan Denny that said (if you
have what it takes) you could pull those front pins while the aircraft is in
flight and nothing would happen. Something to do with where the center of
lift is and the configuration of the struts. Of course, I have no knowlege
of anyone who was able to provide proof of that assertion.
Anybody want to give it a whirl?
Deke
>
> Look at where the lower lift strut attach is
> positioned. With the wing generating lift, the front
> spars are pushing inward on the spar carry-thru. The
> rear spars are pulling outward...
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
> From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Clevis movement
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft"
> <msm@byterocky.net>
> >
> >Is that a fact that the wing will stay in its flying
> configuration even if
> >the clevis pins comes out?. I'm having a bit of
> trouble getting my head
> >around that one. Could someone please explain how
> because my gut feel is
> >that the wing would fold back immediately the pin
> was released.
> >
> >Graeme Toft
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "david yeamans" <dafox@ckt.net>
> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Clevis movement
> >
> >
> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "david yeamans"
> <dafox@ckt.net>
> >>
> >> Don,
> >>
> >> I think what you are doing with the front
> spars using Castle Bolts
> >> and nuts with cotter pins
> >> are the best thing anyone can do. I had the same
> problem Bill In Maine
> >> had with the Clevis bolt
> >> creeping up, and didn't notice until I did my
> annual Conditioning
> >> inspection. The Safety pin on
> >> the left wing only, was extra tight and had
> started to wear. I exchanged
> >> it for a cotter pin which
> >> was a lot stronger, but I am going to change it to
> a Castle Bolt and Nut
> >> with cotter pin. I only fold
> >> the wings back once a year so certainly no
> inconvienious . This was a
> >> topic a year ago or so
> >> and there is really nothing to worry about. The
> Clevis bolt could come
> >> clear out while flying, and
> >> aerodynamic's would keep the wing going forward.
> >>
> >>
> >> David Yeamans
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Don Smythe
> >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:05 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Clevis movement
> >>
> >>
> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe"
> <dosmythe@cox.net>
> >>
> >> Loyd,
> >> Good question. I opted to do the same but I
> use castle nuts w/
> >> cotter
> >> pins on the front. I don't torque them down to
> any specific torque but
> >> rather run them down and just add a little more.
> I don't want to squeeze
> >> too much. Any pro's to this procedure would be
> appreciated.
> >>
> >> Don Smythe
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net>
> >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Clevis movement
> >>
> >>
> >> > --> Kitfox-List message posted
> by: "Cudnohufsky's"
> >> <7suds@chartermi.net>
> >> >
> >> > Bill,
> >> > Never had the problem but also never liked the
> idea of the clevised pin
> >> > either. I opted to use a threaded bolt with
> Nylock in the front the
> >> same
> >> > as
> >> > the rear, I liked the idea of keeping
> everything drawn tight, but I
> >> also
> >> > never checked with Skystar to see if there was
> any flaws in my
> >> thinking.
> >> > Anyone else?
> >> > Lloyd
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Chenoweth" <chenoweth@gwi.net>
> >> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Clevis movement
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Chenoweth"
> <chenoweth@gwi.net>
> >> >>
> >> >> Here's a situation I discovered the other day
> and I wonder if anyone
> >> on
> >> >> the list has experienced something similar.
> >> >>
> >> >> The clevis pin that attaches the right front
> spar to the carry thru
> >> wants
> >> >> to work its way up. This may have been going
> on forever but I just
> >> >> noticed that the safety pin was up solidly
> against the spar about 11
> >> >> flight hours ago and pounded the clevis pin
> fully down. The clevis
> >> pin
> >> >> is
> >> >> now about halfway back up. There is obviously
> motion somewhere.
> >> >>
> >> >> There is no obvious looseness in the joint.
> The left wing doesn't
> >> >> manifest this tendency at all. I have a 13
> gallon tank on the right
> >> and
> >> >> fly with it from full to 1/2 full all the
> time. I don't put any gas
> >> in
> >> >> my
> >> >> left tank and have shutoffs to keep the tanks
> from cross feeding. In
> >> >> other words the right wing weighs 50 pounds or
> so more than the left.
> >> >>
> >> >> Other than to note that the safety pins are in
> there for a reason I
> >> have
> >> >> no idea if this is a common event or if my
> plane is unique. Nor do I
> >> >> know
> >> >> if it is a symptom of something bad.
> >> >>
> >> >> So if any one has this happening I'd surely
> like to know and what, if
> >> >> anything, was done to correct it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks very much.
> >> >> Bill in Maine
> >> >> IV-1200 (582) with 160 hours
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
All,
I want to join those that have expressed their sympathy for the
employees of SkyStar and those that have outstanding orders with the
company, this truly is bad news for everyone.
As John McBean indicated, though, support for builders and pilots
will continue. Murle Williams has asked me to let you all know that
he will continue to offer his builder-assist program and his array of
Kitfox and Avid products.
Murle can be reached at:
Web: http://MurleWilliamsAviation.com
E-mail: murle.williams@juno.com
Phone: (602) 978-0553
If any of you feel that you will not be able to complete your
aircraft and have kits or parts you would like to sell, please
contact Murle or myself off-list.
Best of luck to everyone,
Mike G.
N728KF
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| Subject: | Upper Strut Attach Point |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
I agree Guy. That's why I use 5G. 6G is ultimate
(the struts broke at that value) and I don't want to
experience ultimate loading!
--- Original Message ---
From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Upper Strut Attach Point
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan
<bnn@nethere.com>
>
>At 06:42 PM 10/17/2005, you wrote:
>>Personally, I wouldn't worry about
>>those rod end fittings unless you're used to
pulling over 5Gs regularly.
>
>I went back and reduced the strut loads by an 80
pound wing weight and 78
>pounds of fuel in the inboard 36". This reduced the
nominal 1-g strut load
>to 636 pounds which improved the eye safety factor
to 4.9 and the threaded
>rod safety factor to 5.3, both still well below 6.
The eye safety factor
>reduces the Vno by about 10%, bringing it from 99
mph to 89 mph.
>
>
>Guy Buchanan
>K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob
Ducar.
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Carter" <valley361@centurytel.net>
Anyone on the list have a header tank p/n 90064.000 that is surplus to
your needs and would sell? p/n is from S-6 assembly manual.
Jay C.
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| Subject: | Re: VFR Lighting Requirements |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Andrew,
Allow me to make a big mistake here. It's been awhile since I looked
into the lighting thing. In the US, we are required lighting from sunset to
sunrise. In Canada, they are required lighting from twilight to twilight.
I think twilight is 1/2 hours before sunrise to 1/2 hour after sunset. So,
your comment below is for Canada operators only???
Forgive me if I messed this up.
Don Smythe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: VFR Lighting Requirements
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey"
> <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
>
> You only need a good anti-collision light if you plan on flying the 30
> min's
> before/after sunrise/sunset.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Need Series 5 cowling |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
Ron wrote,
>Its time to start my hunt for a Series 5 top & bottom cowl. It must be the
>one for the Lycombing or Continental engine which is the "Cessna" style.
Hi Ron, we have an unused cowl for the Continental 0-200 engine on a Series
5. Problem is we are in Vienna Austria and the freight costs would probably
make this non-viable for you. However keep
it in mind and if you don't source anything locally give me an email and we
will try to work out a
viable deal. Kerry.
S5 builders helper.
Taxied it on Sunday. Ohitsjustwunderbar.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VFR Lighting Requirements |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Don, That is exactly what I meant!
Andrew
>From: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: VFR Lighting Requirements
>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:29:27 -0400
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
>
>Andrew,
> Allow me to make a big mistake here. It's been awhile since I looked
>into the lighting thing. In the US, we are required lighting from sunset
>to
>sunrise. In Canada, they are required lighting from twilight to twilight.
>I think twilight is 1/2 hours before sunrise to 1/2 hour after sunset. So,
>your comment below is for Canada operators only???
> Forgive me if I messed this up.
>
>Don Smythe
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: VFR Lighting Requirements
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey"
> > <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
> >
> > You only need a good anti-collision light if you plan on flying the 30
> > min's
> > before/after sunrise/sunset.
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | NOw have new plane |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
Hi Guys, last weekend I flew to Brisbane and took delivery of my new NSI powered
KF1V 1200. Had an interesting trip home with the weather gods throwing rain,
strong winds and threat of thunder storms at us for the 4 hour trip. Its now
time for me and my new mount to become acquainted with each other so while Im
waiting for the registration to come through, Im going over every inch of her
to learn what makes her tick. It definitely has potential to become a love affair.
Cheers and thanks to all again.
Do not archive
Graeme Toft
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| Subject: | Re: NOw have new plane |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Congrats Graeme. There's nothing like a new "toy" to jump start enthusiasm.
I hope your love affair with it is is long and prosperous! In addition to
Kitfoxers there are also lots of NSI engine owners on this list so you're
among friends.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: NOw have new plane
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Hi Guys, last weekend I flew to Brisbane and took delivery of my new NSI
powered KF1V 1200. Had an interesting trip home with the weather gods
throwing rain, strong winds and threat of thunder storms at us for the 4
hour trip. Its now time for me and my new mount to become acquainted with
each other so while Im waiting for the registration to come through, Im
going over every inch of her to learn what makes her tick. It definitely has
potential to become a love affair.
>
> Cheers and thanks to all again.
> Do not archive
> Graeme Toft
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RV73HL@aol.com
The last time I looked, Lighting is not required for VFR flying..
Howard
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
Is there a case number yet?
>
> I was asked to pass on a message and there is just no easy way to say it
> Unfortunately, SkyStar is officially in Chapter 7 Bankruptcy. Although
> the
> phones are still being answered with voice mail there is no one there to
> get
> the messages and the web is not being monitored This is a Chapter 7 and
> was filed on Friday 10-14-05. People involved should get a letter from
> the
> courts.
>
> As always, we are here to help with any support questions regarding your
> Kitfox.. Although, we cannot provide all the parts we can supply most of
> them please give us a shout if we can help.
>
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com <http://www.sportplanellc.com/>
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NOw have new plane |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Graeme Toft wrote:
> It definitely has potential to become a love affair.
Be careful, Graeme, that kind of love is very addictive! When I am at work,
trying to do some programming, my mind is constantly drifting and I look at the
sky through the window and picture myself dancing in the clouds with my gal! :-)
Cheers and congrats on your new plane.
Michel
do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
case 055344 (off another list) John A.
From: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: SkyStar
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson"
<rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
Is there a case number yet?
>
>I was asked to pass on a message and there is just no easy way to say it
>Unfortunately, SkyStar is officially in Chapter 7 Bankruptcy. Although
>the
>phones are still being answered with voice mail there is no one there to
>get
>the messages and the web is not being monitored This is a Chapter 7 and
>was filed on Friday 10-14-05. People involved should get a letter from
>the
>courts.
>
>As always, we are here to help with any support questions regarding your
>Kitfox.. Although, we cannot provide all the parts we can supply most of
>them please give us a shout if we can help.
>
>
>Fly Safe !!
>John & Debra McBean
>www.sportplanellc.com <http://www.sportplanellc.com/>
>"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
Hi John,
I'm very sorry to hear of this. I don't know what Chapter 7 Bankruptcy
means. Is there some hope for recovery?
Thanks,
Bruce Harrington
Ex-IV-1200 N194KF, but still a promoter of Kitfoxes.
> I was asked to pass on a message and there is just no easy way to say it
> Unfortunately, SkyStar is officially in Chapter 7 Bankruptcy. Although
> the
> phones are still being answered with voice mail there is no one there to
> get
> the messages and the web is not being monitored This is a Chapter 7 and
> was filed on Friday 10-14-05. People involved should get a letter from
> the
> courts.
>
> As always, we are here to help with any support questions regarding your
> Kitfox.. Although, we cannot provide all the parts we can supply most of
> them please give us a shout if we can help.
>
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
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| Subject: | EA-81 turbo with reduction drive FOR SALE |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
I have decided to sell the engine package less firewall engine mount. It
was originally an NSI engine. I have completely rebuilt the engine to
include the heads. The redrive unit has the latest upgrade from NSI, which I
believe was new shaft and material, larger bearings and the like. Below is a
list of mods and parts:
Total run time appx 70 hours, engine was not running at time of nose wheel
collapse. Oil pan was damaged by nose strut but can be easily repaired.
Engine has since been run, and oil changed as well as redrive oil. This
engine makes over 150HP. I will include radiator and necessary plumbing from
aircraft. This engine is complete and ready to mount to NSI engine mount for
aircraft of your choosing. It was in a model 5 Kitfox. Mounts on engine are
included. No break in necessary, its been done. Keep in mind the rotax
engine is going for about 20K and does not make this kind of power nor is it
rated for continuous full power operation.
New pistons and rings
All new bearings and seals
Pistons, pins, rings and block cryogenic treated, not over sized
Pistons ceramic coated tops molly sides
Cylinders line honed
Crank zero run out
reconditioned rods with new bushings weight matched
new turbo cam coated by Swain
reconditioned lifters
stainless down pipe and stack
heads have stainless valves, 3 angle valve cut, ceramic tops and scallops,
new bronze guides, coated HP springs, reconditioned rockers
intake manifold special Swain heat dissipating coating
Oil lines are Teflon
New Taylor ignition wires
Stainless headers by Dawley Aviation with special Swain coating, with EGT
holes
MOCAL oil thermostat plumbed with lines will provide cooler
New oil pump
remote filter mount and Teflon lines
new water pump
Turbo completely rebuilt and upgraded to include new compressor section,
Swain coated exhaust turbine section, hard line cooling line and more.
Ellison TBI 3A, all fuel lines Teflon to include line to firewall
Powder coated aluminum valve covers
Dual electronic ignition and pick ups, programmable
Alternator with overage voltage unit
Engine block heater, not that I needed it here in sunny california
I will give the list first shot and then either sell it locally or list on
EBay. This is a strong smooth engine. You wont be dissapointed. If you have
the non-turbo NSI then this would be an easy swap for much more power and
higher density altitude capabilites. If your serious and would like to see
her run let me know ASAP.
Rick
If you like private emails at wingsdown@comcast.net
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RV73HL@aol.com
Sorry, I meant, VFR, daytime flying....
Howard
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
How about VFR flights at "night"?
Don Smythe
----- Original Message -----
> The last time I looked, Lighting is not required for VFR flying..
>
> Howard
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Joe Bienkowski <joeb47@verizon.net>
Chapter 7 is the liquidation of a company/individual.
This is NOT a restructuring.
It is the liquidation of assets and the dismissal of debts/
Best,
Joe
Bruce Harrington wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
>
>Hi John,
>I'm very sorry to hear of this. I don't know what Chapter 7 Bankruptcy
>means. Is there some hope for recovery?
>Thanks,
>Bruce Harrington
>Ex-IV-1200 N194KF, but still a promoter of Kitfoxes.
>
>
>
>>I was asked to pass on a message and there is just no easy way to say it
>>Unfortunately, SkyStar is officially in Chapter 7 Bankruptcy. Although
>>the
>>phones are still being answered with voice mail there is no one there to
>>get
>>the messages and the web is not being monitored This is a Chapter 7 and
>>was filed on Friday 10-14-05. People involved should get a letter from
>>the
>>courts.
>>
>>As always, we are here to help with any support questions regarding your
>>Kitfox.. Although, we cannot provide all the parts we can supply most of
>>them please give us a shout if we can help.
>>
>>
>>Fly Safe !!
>>John & Debra McBean
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Eric" <iworonko@cox.net>
Hi Folks,
I have been rebuilding a damaged Mod. lV Speedster and was waiting till I got to
the wing before ordering a wing tip from Skystar. Looks like I waited too long.
Does anyone have or know where I can get a left Speedster type wing tip?
Also could use a left flaperon.
Eric
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Anti-Collision lights, Position Lights...
Andrew
>From: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Lighting
>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:06:25 -0400
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
>
>How about VFR flights at "night"?
>
>Don Smythe
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
> > The last time I looked, Lighting is not required for VFR flying..
> >
> > Howard
>
>
Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
John, Were yo able to connect and get a copy of the book you wanted from
SS. I got one if you want it. Mark (formerly of SS) got one for me to send
you if you want it.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: SkyStar
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
> <janderson412@hotmail.com>
>
>
> case 055344 (off another list) John A.
>
>
> From: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: SkyStar
> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:12:21 -0500
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson"
> <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
>
> Is there a case number yet?
>
>
>>
>>I was asked to pass on a message and there is just no easy way to say it
>>Unfortunately, SkyStar is officially in Chapter 7 Bankruptcy. Although
>>the
>>phones are still being answered with voice mail there is no one there to
>>get
>>the messages and the web is not being monitored This is a Chapter 7 and
>>was filed on Friday 10-14-05. People involved should get a letter from
>>the
>>courts.
>>
>>As always, we are here to help with any support questions regarding your
>>Kitfox.. Although, we cannot provide all the parts we can supply most of
>>them please give us a shout if we can help.
>>
>>
>>Fly Safe !!
>>John & Debra McBean
>>www.sportplanellc.com <http://www.sportplanellc.com/>
>>"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>>
>
>
> Read the latest Hollywood gossip @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/entertainment
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Out of curiosity, it was mentioned that there were other parties (standing
in the wings) possibly waiting to take over. Does Chap 7 allow for the
company to continue maybe under a different name or whatever?
Don Smythe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Bienkowski" <joeb47@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: SkyStar
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Joe Bienkowski <joeb47@verizon.net>
>
> Chapter 7 is the liquidation of a company/individual.
>
> This is NOT a restructuring.
>
> It is the liquidation of assets and the dismissal of debts/
>
> Best,
> Joe
>
> Bruce Harrington wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
>>
>>Hi John,
>>I'm very sorry to hear of this. I don't know what Chapter 7 Bankruptcy
>>means. Is there some hope for recovery?
>>Thanks,
>>Bruce Harrington
>>Ex-IV-1200 N194KF, but still a promoter of Kitfoxes.
>>
>>
>>
>>>I was asked to pass on a message and there is just no easy way to say it
>>>Unfortunately, SkyStar is officially in Chapter 7 Bankruptcy. Although
>>>the
>>>phones are still being answered with voice mail there is no one there to
>>>get
>>>the messages and the web is not being monitored This is a Chapter 7 and
>>>was filed on Friday 10-14-05. People involved should get a letter from
>>>the
>>>courts.
>>>
>>>As always, we are here to help with any support questions regarding your
>>>Kitfox.. Although, we cannot provide all the parts we can supply most of
>>>them please give us a shout if we can help.
>>>
>>>
>>>Fly Safe !!
>>>John & Debra McBean
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Hi Don,
I am not a lawyer, so I will gladly offer a legal opinion for free! I think
under a chapter 7, everything becomes an asset that must be sold to satisfy
creditors (mostly Phil Reed in this case), including the Skystar name, web
site domain, etc. So they are free to sell that to someone who wants to
start over again as a brand new business.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Smythe
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: SkyStar
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Out of curiosity, it was mentioned that there were other parties (standing
in the wings) possibly waiting to take over. Does Chap 7 allow for the
company to continue maybe under a different name or whatever?
Don Smythe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Bienkowski" <joeb47@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: SkyStar
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Joe Bienkowski <joeb47@verizon.net>
>
> Chapter 7 is the liquidation of a company/individual.
>
> This is NOT a restructuring.
>
> It is the liquidation of assets and the dismissal of debts/
>
> Best,
> Joe
>
> Bruce Harrington wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
>>
>>Hi John,
>>I'm very sorry to hear of this. I don't know what Chapter 7 Bankruptcy
>>means. Is there some hope for recovery?
>>Thanks,
>>Bruce Harrington
>>Ex-IV-1200 N194KF, but still a promoter of Kitfoxes.
>>
>>
>>
>>>I was asked to pass on a message and there is just no easy way to say it
>>>Unfortunately, SkyStar is officially in Chapter 7 Bankruptcy. Although
>>>the
>>>phones are still being answered with voice mail there is no one there to
>>>get
>>>the messages and the web is not being monitored This is a Chapter 7 and
>>>was filed on Friday 10-14-05. People involved should get a letter from
>>>the
>>>courts.
>>>
>>>As always, we are here to help with any support questions regarding your
>>>Kitfox.. Although, we cannot provide all the parts we can supply most of
>>>them please give us a shout if we can help.
>>>
>>>
>>>Fly Safe !!
>>>John & Debra McBean
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
They jumped on Ch 7 just before the law changed making 7's more difficult. Liquidation
means assets get sold and proceeds applied to satisfy debts. Secured creditors
(those to whom assets are pledged as collateral) are first in line. Others
will get pennies on the dollar, if anything. It's possible that someone
wanting to continue the business could acquire some of the assets. Under Ch 7,
however, I wouldn't bet my fox that there will be a fully functional Skystar
successor anytime soon.
Anybody got a cargo pod to sell?
Don Smythe <dosmythe@cox.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe"
Out of curiosity, it was mentioned that there were other parties (standing
in the wings) possibly waiting to take over. Does Chap 7 allow for the
company to continue maybe under a different name or whatever?
Don Smythe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Bienkowski"
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: SkyStar
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Joe Bienkowski
>
> Chapter 7 is the liquidation of a company/individual.
>
> This is NOT a restructuring.
>
> It is the liquidation of assets and the dismissal of debts/
>
> Best,
> Joe
>
> Bruce Harrington wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington"
>>
>>Hi John,
>>I'm very sorry to hear of this. I don't know what Chapter 7 Bankruptcy
>>means. Is there some hope for recovery?
>>Thanks,
>>Bruce Harrington
>>Ex-IV-1200 N194KF, but still a promoter of Kitfoxes.
>>
>>
>>
>>>I was asked to pass on a message and there is just no easy way to say it
>>>Unfortunately, SkyStar is officially in Chapter 7 Bankruptcy. Although
>>>the
>>>phones are still being answered with voice mail there is no one there to
>>>get
>>>the messages and the web is not being monitored This is a Chapter 7 and
>>>was filed on Friday 10-14-05. People involved should get a letter from
>>>the
>>>courts.
>>>
>>>As always, we are here to help with any support questions regarding your
>>>Kitfox.. Although, we cannot provide all the parts we can supply most of
>>>them please give us a shout if we can help.
>>>
>>>
>>>Fly Safe !!
>>>John & Debra McBean
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
---------------------------------
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| Subject: | Re: Upper Strut Attach Point |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
Thanks Guy
You made my brain hurt.
So, it is the weak point, no?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Buchanan" <bnn@nethere.com>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Upper Strut Attach Point
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
>
> At 06:42 PM 10/17/2005, you wrote:
>>Personally, I wouldn't worry about
>>those rod end fittings unless you're used to pulling over 5Gs regularly.
>
> Well,
> You got me thinking. A bad thing. Blew an entire evening.
> individual strut load of 757 pounds, assuming constant loading over the
> span and both struts loaded equally. (A dubious assumption, at best.) My
> strut ends are Aurora MW-4H-12's, which appear to be custom units,
> consisting of 5/16" bodies with 9/16" wide balls drilled to 1/4. Since
> Skystar supplied AN hardware, this was a reasonable thing to do. Now my
> Aurora catalog shows MW-5 (5/16") spherical bearings have a radial static
> load capacity of 3133 pounds. This gives a reserve factor of 4.1. Yes
> folks, that means the spherical bearing will fail at a load factor of 4.1.
> Hmmm. I wonder what happened to six.
> Next I checked the threads. The 5/16-24 threads have a tensile
> stress area of .058 sq. in. This gives an average stress across the
> threads
> of 13ksi. I checked McMaster Carr for threaded rod and found the following
> three possibilities:
>
> 18-8 Stainless, "minimum tensile strength" = 70ksi, failure
> load factor = 5.4
> Non Rated steel, "minimum tensile strength" = 58ksi, failure
> load factor = 4.5
> Grade B7 steel, "minimum tensile strength" = 125ksi, failure
> load factor = 9.6
>
> Any bets on which Skystar used? I'd bet mild steel.
> I haven't even addressed stress concentration factors or fatigue
> life, though the low strength steels will have superior fatigue life and
> higher crack resistance.
> As an aside, the 1/4" bolt, being AN hardware and therefore 125ksi
> tensile material, is good for about 7.7ksi in shear, giving load factor to
> failure of about 10.2.
> possibility reduce my maximum load factor to about 2.7. This would reduce
> Vno by about 18%. (For example, a K-IV-1200 Vno would go from 99 mph to 81
> mph.) I don't know if Vne would change. Of course you could always modify
> your struts. (Does anybody know what Skystar did in '01 to beef up the
> struts? I saw replacement struts available on the web site.)
> series units, good to 7639 pounds. (I may do this anyway. Make sure the
> ball is custom made to fit the wing fitting. Don't fill with washers.) I'd
> also replace the stud with a larger diameter Grade B7 steel. It looks like
> you might be able to use a 3/8" body (AW-6) with a custom ball. (1/4" hole
> and 7/16" width.) If I can remember tomorrow I'll call Aurora and see
> what's possible.
>
> PS Does anyone have a pair of good pre-'01 K-IV-1200 struts they'd
> give/sell me? I'll pull them and get some answers for us.
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Is that a fact that the wing will stay in its flying configuration even if
the clevis pins comes out?. I'm having a bit of trouble getting my head
around that one. Could someone please explain how because my gut feel is
that the wing would fold back immediately the pin was released.
Graeme Toft
Hi ! Graeme,
me too ! and it concerns me because that point on the
Kitfox might be a concern. My plane was built by a mechanical engineer and
when I picked it up he said to keep that pin greased as it tends chafe. I
would like to see more feedback on what is the best thing to do at this
point because I'm thinking the bolt idea is good. It would need to be a bolt
that does not have thread in the hole in the spar though and I wonder what
the correct grade would be. Also should it be tightened or just take up any
play ?
On the point of the wing staying forward in flight. that's interesting
because just last night I attended a lecture on BAK and it was actually
mentioned about wing attachment bolts. It was stated about the forces
prevailing on these bolts and it was definitely stated there was quite a
strain with the wing drag trying to push the wings back. So I'd be
interested in any views because until convinced otherwise I'm in favour of
the idea the wing will fold back very smartly indeed if that pin fails or
whatever. I can see it needs shear strength rather than tensile.
I await further discussion with interest please.
Rex.
PS
that's not very nice news about Skystar. It will be good to get news
next that someone will take it on. Let's hope !
rexjan@bigpond.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Greaves" <tenorio41@comcast.net>
Anyone got any recommended courses of action to take when you just got screwed
by the chapter 7? About 60 days ago I was told my 912s was about 60 days out.
I think I just got screwed. I hear I should be getting a letter but of course
considering that I ordered a kit and it was 'sent to someone else accidentally',
I have little faith that this letter will be in my box anytime soon...
Anybody else in my sinking boat with me? One question I have is that considering
Skystar told me my engine money was in the hands of Rotax, does this mean I
will get the engine on order? My luck it would arrive in Idaho and be sold off
to pay for this Chapter 7 crap....
I cannot have any respect for the Chapter 7 decision....filing to erase debts to
people that held faith is nothing short of immoral. Hindsight is 20/20 and
I should have never considered a Kitfox. Sad but true. My experience has been
maddening. Luckily I have most of my kit but I would have felt better with
the engine I paid for.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
For all those still owed parts by Skystar: As I said before, I am just an
amateur lawyer, so take this advice as such. I have been "screwed" out of
$15,000 owed to me by a creditor to my business because the creditor
declared CH 7 bankruptcy. Did I get even ONE CENT. NO. Why? Because I was
very far down in the line of creditors, and the first ones to file claims
with the BK court get paid first.
You have to decide if it is worth paying a lawyer to help you make a claim,
and you have to do it fast. I have no idea how much the assets of Skystar
are, and how much the current creditors are owed now, but I have to think
that there will not be much of anything left as it stands right now.
Otherwise they would not have declared Ch 7.
So the time to make a decision is now. Make a claim right now or write it
off as a bad debt.
PS, I saw the final statement in the case of my BK claim. Guess who got the
most money? The creditors? Wrong. The lawyers did.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greaves
Subject: Kitfox-List: Skystar
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Greaves" <tenorio41@comcast.net>
Anyone got any recommended courses of action to take when you just got
screwed by the chapter 7? About 60 days ago I was told my 912s was about 60
days out. I think I just got screwed. I hear I should be getting a letter
but of course considering that I ordered a kit and it was 'sent to someone
else accidentally', I have little faith that this letter will be in my box
anytime soon...
Anybody else in my sinking boat with me? One question I have is that
considering Skystar told me my engine money was in the hands of Rotax, does
this mean I will get the engine on order? My luck it would arrive in Idaho
and be sold off to pay for this Chapter 7 crap....
I cannot have any respect for the Chapter 7 decision....filing to erase
debts to people that held faith is nothing short of immoral. Hindsight is
20/20 and I should have never considered a Kitfox. Sad but true. My
experience has been maddening. Luckily I have most of my kit but I would
have felt better with the engine I paid for.
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| Subject: | Re: rear spar spacer |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
JF, My Classic 4 manual from 1994 says 96 and 3/4 inches from the "Root
end" of the rear spar. Service letter 25A describes the process. You
may end up moving the bracket slightly when you rig the wings on the
fuselage. I just went out and measured this on my classic 4. The
measurement on it is close to 97 inches on both left and right rear spars.
Tom Jones
quichotte_40 wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "quichotte_40" <quichotte_40@msn.com>
>
>hi, I`m building the wings for my c4 and it is not clear to me if the
>rear spar bracket location dimension of 96 1/4 should be measured
>from the rear spar root location with or without the 1/2 inch spacer
>on the wing fixture. Should the dimension be taken from the spar
>tube beginning or from behind the spacer. thank`s to all. JF
>Hebert
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| Subject: | Skystar website service letters and bullitins |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
I just checked and found the service letters and bulletins still
accessible on Skystars website. If you have not done so already, it
might be prudent to print off those that apply to your kitfox. Go to
www.skystar.com and click on "technical Support". There is a key at the
beginning of the list that tells which plane each letter or bulletin
applies to.
Tom Jones
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Thought. If the wing is hard against the false rib when the pin is in, i.e.
you have to pull the wing tip hard forward to get the front pin in, the pin
will be under tension and tend not to work. But if there is a slight gap
between the false and last wing rib, i.e the pin slips in easily, it would
be more likely to work. Perhaps putting a rubber seal packer between the
false and last rib would reduce the chance of pin movement?? John A.
From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Wing clevis pin
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Is that a fact that the wing will stay in its flying configuration even if
the clevis pins comes out?. I'm having a bit of trouble getting my head
around that one. Could someone please explain how because my gut feel is
that the wing would fold back immediately the pin was released.
Graeme Toft
Hi ! Graeme,
me too ! and it concerns me because that point on the
Kitfox might be a concern. My plane was built by a mechanical engineer and
when I picked it up he said to keep that pin greased as it tends chafe. I
would like to see more feedback on what is the best thing to do at this
point because I'm thinking the bolt idea is good. It would need to be a bolt
that does not have thread in the hole in the spar though and I wonder what
the correct grade would be. Also should it be tightened or just take up any
play ?
On the point of the wing staying forward in flight. that's interesting
because just last night I attended a lecture on BAK and it was actually
mentioned about wing attachment bolts. It was stated about the forces
prevailing on these bolts and it was definitely stated there was quite a
strain with the wing drag trying to push the wings back. So I'd be
interested in any views because until convinced otherwise I'm in favour of
the idea the wing will fold back very smartly indeed if that pin fails or
whatever. I can see it needs shear strength rather than tensile.
I await further discussion with interest please.
Rex.
PS
that's not very nice news about Skystar. It will be good to get news
next that someone will take it on. Let's hope !
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Re: Skystar website service letters and bullitins |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
I did just that. I wonder is there a way to save this info for others
down the road
on Matronics or possible Sportflight?
David Estapa
Woodstock, GA
S5 N97DE
Do not archive
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:55:41 -0700 Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
writes:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
>
> I just checked and found the service letters and bulletins still
> accessible on Skystars website. If you have not done so already, it
>
> might be prudent to print off those that apply to your kitfox. Go
> to
> www.skystar.com and click on "technical Support". There is a key at
> the
> beginning of the list that tells which plane each letter or bulletin
>
> applies to.
> Tom Jones
>
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>
>
>
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| Subject: | Skystar website service letters and bullitins |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Sport Plane LLC will most likely have the SL's and SB's on our web... it may
take a little time but I have them. There are also some other things as
well that will be up in the future....
Sport Plane will continue to support the Kitfox family to the best of our
ability......
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David Estapa
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Skystar website service letters and bullitins
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
I did just that. I wonder is there a way to save this info for others
down the road
on Matronics or possible Sportflight?
David Estapa
Woodstock, GA
S5 N97DE
Do not archive
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:55:41 -0700 Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
writes:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
>
> I just checked and found the service letters and bulletins still
> accessible on Skystars website. If you have not done so already, it
>
> might be prudent to print off those that apply to your kitfox. Go
> to
> www.skystar.com and click on "technical Support". There is a key at
> the
> beginning of the list that tells which plane each letter or bulletin
>
> applies to.
> Tom Jones
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Upper Strut Attach Point |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 06:08 PM 10/18/2005, you wrote:
>Thanks Guy
>You made my brain hurt.
>So, it is the weak point, no?
Maybe. I noticed the wing strut fittings have all of about 1/4" of material
bearing on the bolt. Unless that material's quite strong there's not much
strength there, as well.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Skystar website service letters and bullitins |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 08:59 PM 10/18/2005, you wrote:
>Sport Plane will continue to support the Kitfox family to the best of our
>ability......
John,
Any idea who I would contact regarding purchasing Skystar assets?
Thanks,
Guy Buchanan
16718 Peace Valley Lane
Ramona, CA 92065-7046
USA
1-760-789-4482
1-760-809-6145: Cell
bnn@nethere.com
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