Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 05:41 AM - Re: A Little Good News (Colin Durey)
2. 05:41 AM - Re: 13 gal tank (kitfoxjunky)
3. 05:44 AM - Re: A Little Good News (kitfoxjunky)
4. 07:21 AM - Re: A Little Good News (Don Smythe)
5. 08:50 AM - Re: Need Series 5 cowling (Bruce Harrison)
6. 09:19 AM - Re: 13 gal tank (Paul Seehafer)
7. 09:27 AM - Future engine choice? (Rex Hefferan)
8. 09:39 AM - Where will we get parts in the future? (Paul Seehafer)
9. 09:46 AM - Parts? Eurofox is an Avid, not a Kitfox (Paul Seehafer)
10. 10:11 AM - Re: Where will we get parts in the future? (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
11. 10:21 AM - Re: Where will we get parts in the future? (jdmcbean)
12. 10:48 AM - Kitfox Promotional Videos (Grant Fluent)
13. 11:20 AM - Re: Where will we get parts in the future? (Alan & Linda Daniels)
14. 11:23 AM - Re: Need Series 5 cowling (Ron Liebmann)
15. 11:57 AM - Re: 13 gal tank (daniel johnson)
16. 12:15 PM - Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos (Blackwell, Rodney)
17. 12:45 PM - Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos (Jeffrey Puls)
18. 12:56 PM - Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos (Jim Gilliatt)
19. 12:58 PM - Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos (Don Pearsall)
20. 01:00 PM - Re: Future engine choice? (Randy Daughenbaugh)
21. 01:01 PM - Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos (daniel johnson)
22. 01:49 PM - Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos (Grant Fluent)
23. 02:11 PM - Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos (Grant Fluent)
24. 02:21 PM - Grant Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos (Harris, Robert)
25. 02:29 PM - Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos (daniel johnson)
26. 03:34 PM - Promotional Videos (Dee Young)
27. 03:55 PM - Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos (Brett Walmsley)
28. 05:09 PM - skystar demise (tony fiacco)
29. 05:19 PM - Re: Where will we get parts in the future? (Lowell Fitt)
30. 05:25 PM - Re: NOw have new plane (QSS)
31. 05:28 PM - Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos (Lowell Fitt)
32. 06:19 PM - Re: Where will we get parts in the future? (Alan & Linda Daniels)
33. 06:30 PM - Re: Where will we get parts in the future? (jdmcbean)
34. 06:47 PM - Re: Promotional Videos (Grant Fluent)
35. 07:04 PM - Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos (Kfyellowbird@cs.com)
36. 07:56 PM - Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos (Grant Fluent)
37. 08:01 PM - Re: Promotional Videos (Dee Young)
38. 08:02 PM - Looking for Michael Meyers (Zimmermans)
39. 08:09 PM - aero-news (Alan & Linda Daniels)
40. 08:14 PM - Re: Promotional Videos (daniel johnson)
41. 08:37 PM - Re: NOw have new plane (Colin Durey)
42. 09:16 PM - Tail light (ron schick)
43. 09:55 PM - Re: Tail light (John Perry)
44. 09:55 PM - Re: Tail light (Don Pearsall)
45. 09:57 PM - Re: Tail light (John Perry)
46. 10:41 PM - Re: Tail light (jdmcbean)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | A Little Good News |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey" <colin@ptclhk.com>
Good news Mike! Glad to hear you've still got the desire to aviate.
Colin Durey
Sydney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gibbs
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: A Little Good News
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> In the midst of all the doom and gloom, I hope you won't mind a
> little bit of good personal news. It's been 14 months since the
> accident that destroyed my beloved Kitfox IV and I've spent the time
> recovering from two shattered legs and severe facial injuries.
>
> It's taken 7 surgeries so far (one more anticipated) and a lot of
> physical therapy, but yesterday I went down to the local AME and was
> issued a class III medical certificate! I just need a flight review
> and I'll be legal to act as pilot in command once again. Where's
> that horse, I'm ready to get back on it!
>
> Thanks for your indulgence,
>
> Mike G.
> N728KF
>
> Do not archive.
>
>
Regards
Colin Durey
Pacific Technology Corporation Ltd
+61-418-677073 (M)
+61-2-945466162 (F)
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Serialize complete at 10/21/2005 08:41:00 AM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
I have been contemplating the same upgrade. My plane has standard 6 gal
tanks. On floats, heading into the bush, I only have realistically one
hour of penetration before fuel is an issue, unless I carry jerry cans in
the floats. I would love to replace one or both of my wing tanks. If you
can keep me abreast of how you make out, and perhaps snap a digital photo
now and again I would really appreciate it.
Gary Walsh
KF IV Anphib 912S
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
do not archive
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Hm Doud" <hmdoud@ev1.net>
I'll bet there are some Kitfoxers out here who have replaced the 6 gal.
gas tank with a 13 gal tank????
I want to replace my right hand tank (a 6 gal) with a 13 gal. tank that I
have. The left hand tank has already been replaced with the13 gal tank,
before I bought the plane. I haven't cut the fabric out of the RH wing
yet, as I wonder how to cut the convex saddles on the tank, from the round
front and rear spars. The adhesive that was used to fasten in the tank,
when the plane was built, seems to be pretty strong.
Has anyone out there made the change and how did you do it?
Herbert Doud
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: A Little Good News |
Serialize complete at 10/21/2005 08:43:04 AM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Excellent. Flying is great therepy. I bet your healing rate goes through
the roof once you are back in the air.
Gary Walsh
KF IV Anphib 912S
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
do not archive
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: A Little Good News |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Tom,
There is something about tearing a perfectly good Kitfox apart that
doesn't quite agree with me. On the other hand, it would probably bring in
more bucks in the long run.
Do Not Archive
Don Smythe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: A Little Good News
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
>
> It may now be worth more parted out and sold part by part.
> Tom Jones
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Need Series 5 cowling |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrison" <firestarii@hotmail.com>
Do you still have the round cowl available? Would it fit a III?
We might be able to work something out as I have the molds for the Cessna
style cowl. A friend and I are trying to learn the process of gel coating
and producing cowls with these molds. Still too early to know if we will be
successful.
>From: rliebmann@comcast.net
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Need Series 5 cowling
>Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:18:02 +0000
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: rliebmann@comcast.net
>
>Hi Listers,
>
>Its time to start my hunt for a Series 5 top & bottom cowl. It must be the
>one for the Lycombing or Continental engine which is the "Cessna" style.
>
>I have a round cowl set which would be good for a Rotax 912 engine for sale
>too.
>
>Thanks, Ron N55KF
>
>
>Hi Listers,
>
>Its time to start my hunt for a Series 5 top bottom cowl. It must be the
>one for the Lycombing or Continental engine which is the "Cessna" style.
>
>I have a round cowl set which would be good for a Rotax 912 engine for sale
>too.
>
>Thanks, Ron N55KF
>
>
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Gary,
I think it is Murle Williams that sells a larger header tank that fits
behind the seat, but yet not affecting the baggage area because it fits
tight against the seatback. Another option? I once saw someone that made a
removable long range tank that went behind the seat below the turtledeck
area for their Avid. Some people say they don't want fuel in the fuselage
with them, but think about where it is in relationship to your head now
(with wing tanks).
If it were me I'd consider building or buying a rear fuselage auxiliary tank
or larger header tank before I started tearing my wings apart. That could
be a very large project.
Just my two cents worth...
Paul Seehafer
----- Original Message -----
From: "kitfoxjunky" <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 13 gal tank
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
> <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>
> I have been contemplating the same upgrade. My plane has standard 6 gal
> tanks. On floats, heading into the bush, I only have realistically one
> hour of penetration before fuel is an issue, unless I carry jerry cans in
> the floats. I would love to replace one or both of my wing tanks. If you
> can keep me abreast of how you make out, and perhaps snap a digital photo
> now and again I would really appreciate it.
>
> Gary Walsh
> KF IV Anphib 912S
> C-GOOT
> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
> do not archive
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Hm Doud" <hmdoud@ev1.net>
>
> I'll bet there are some Kitfoxers out here who have replaced the 6 gal.
> gas tank with a 13 gal tank????
>
> I want to replace my right hand tank (a 6 gal) with a 13 gal. tank that I
> have. The left hand tank has already been replaced with the13 gal tank,
> before I bought the plane. I haven't cut the fabric out of the RH wing
> yet, as I wonder how to cut the convex saddles on the tank, from the round
> front and rear spars. The adhesive that was used to fasten in the tank,
> when the plane was built, seems to be pretty strong.
>
> Has anyone out there made the change and how did you do it?
>
> Herbert Doud
>
>
>
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Future engine choice? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex Hefferan <kitfox-m2@earthlink.net>
November 27, 2004 A white paper on a revolutionary new approach to engine
design has been released at the Global Powertrain Conference (GPC) in
Dearborn, Michigan, USA. Quasiturbine technology uses photo-detonation for
low-power-efficiency and requires low octane, additive-free gasoline or
diesel fuel. It is also multi-fuel compatible (including direct hydrogen
combustion) and offers a drastic reduction in existing propulsion system
weight, size, maintenance and costs. Utilised within the internal combustion
engine, the photo-detonation process could save half the gasoline now
consumed by vehicles and provide substantial environmental benefits.
The Quasiturbine looks at first like a rotary engine with a deformable rotor
made of four identical blades, but because it has no crankshaft and does not
follow sinusoidal motion, it has properties far different from the piston
and the Wankel rotary piston engine. The Quasiturbine engine has been
developed to simultaneously optimize the 14 most important engine
parameters, including compatibility with the revolutionary photo-detonation
mode (knocking), which the piston engine cannot effectively tolerate. When
taken together, these improvements increase fuel efficiency while
simultaneously reducing exhaust emissions.
Inspired by the turbine, it perfects the piston, and improves on the Wankel.
For more information visit following websites,
http://quasiturbine.promci.qc.ca/
http://www.gizmag.com/go/3501/
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Where will we get parts in the future? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
----- Original Message ----- >
> It may now be worth more parted out and sold part by part.
> Tom Jones
Ok guys, lets not be too hard on ourselves here. Before everyone gives
their airplanes away or parts them out, here's a snippet from the Avid Forum
right after Avid went out of business that might make you all feel better.
I'm sure someone will pick up the pieces and supply Kitfox parts much the
same as Airdale did for Avid. We have a lot of capable and experienced
people in this group that may have been looking for this opportunity to open
up? And when you think about it, many certified aircraft flying today are
no longer supported by their manufacturers, yet they continue to fly just
the same utilizing aftermarket suppliers (eg Stinson, Taylorcraft, Funk,
Bellanca, old Pipers, Lake, etc, etc)
Paul Seehafer
(Here's the message sent to the Avid group a couple years ago)
--- In avid_flyer@yahoogroups.com, "englishav8r" <ukav8r@m...> wrote:
>>
>> Airdale can make and supply ALL the parts for a Standard Avid Flyer.
>> (A,B,C, MkIV D, E, Speedwings and Aerobatic Speedwings)
>> All the Wing Parts for Magnum, and Catalina. (Ribs, Tanks, Flaperons
>> etc..)
>> BUT the original Avid Flyer is now nearly 20 years old, Cuyuna powered
>> and some of the original parts are Difficult or too expensive for a
>> builder to afford!
>>
>> Most of the parts are made to order as it is just NOT economical to
>> have on the shelf stock on some. But we do have short Batch runs on
>> certain high cost items in an effort to keep the labor time down..
>> (Flaperons, Landing Gear, Bungees, Ribs, Fiberglass parts)
>>
>> Raw material costs vary on a week by week basis--especailly when its
>> small numbers--hence when are part is required we quote at todays
>> prices...
>>
>> One of the biggest problems are Part finished and used kits out there---
>> Many times we get requests for a Bellcrank, push pull rod, bracket
>> etc....In this instance we have to duplicate as per original---usually
>> from an original we then work on a time and materials basis
>> but we persevere and try to help every one out there.
>> We support you and you support us...that's the name of the game..
>>
>> We are able to supply an Avid "MkIV" kit right from nose to tail...
>> this we already do for the European Market where it is recognised as
>> the same type---for certification purposes..BUT fuselage is slightly
>> different---longer / wider---
>>
>> So in a Nutshell.
>>
>> If Its On Your Avid, AIRDALE Probably Makes It---
>>
>> Maybe this is the Simple message that should go on our web page?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Steve at Airdale....
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Parts? Eurofox is an Avid, not a Kitfox |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Don't mean to be the bearer of bad news, but a Eurofox is nothing much more
than a Avid Model C with a modified Riblett wing that utilizes metal rather
than wood. So while the structure is similar to a Kitfox in concept, it is
much closer to an Avid than anything, and consequently I doubt few parts
would interchange with a Kitfox. Incidentally, even the american
distributor admits that the Eurofox is based on an Avid, not a Kitfox...
Paul Seehafer
(original message)
> This makes me happy. I had forgotten about the Eurofox. Hopefully it's
> close enough to supply ground-loop parts.
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Where will we get parts in the future? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
following up on Paul's comment, (John step in here) but Skystar did not appear
to do much actual fabrication beyond the weldments. And I doubt than many of
us (you) are missing weldments, perhaps with the exception of motor mounts. There
exists a cadre of suppliers to Skystar with the capability of producing the
components that are missing out in the garages of the list members. What is
needed is someone to pull from those suppliers in committment to deliver......
John McBean is a prime candidate to pull it all together..
John Kerr
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer"
>
> ----- Original Message ----- >
> > It may now be worth more parted out and sold part by part.
> > Tom Jones
>
> Ok guys, lets not be too hard on ourselves here. Before everyone gives
> their airplanes away or parts them out, here's a snippet from the Avid Forum
> right after Avid went out of business that might make you all feel better.
> I'm sure someone will pick up the pieces and supply Kitfox parts much the
> same as Airdale did for Avid. We have a lot of capable and experienced
> people in this group that may have been looking for this opportunity to open
> up? And when you think about it, many certified aircraft flying today are
> no longer supported by their manufacturers, yet they continue to fly just
> the same utilizing aftermarket suppliers (eg Stinson, Taylorcraft, Funk,
> Bellanca, old Pipers, Lake, etc, etc)
>
> Paul Seehafer
>
>
> (Here's the message sent to the Avid group a couple years ago)
>
> --- In avid_flyer@yahoogroups.com, "englishav8r" wrote:
> >>
> >> Airdale can make and supply ALL the parts for a Standard Avid Flyer.
> >> (A,B,C, MkIV D, E, Speedwings and Aerobatic Speedwings)
> >> All the Wing Parts for Magnum, and Catalina. (Ribs, Tanks, Flaperons
> >> etc..)
> >> BUT the original Avid Flyer is now nearly 20 years old, Cuyuna powered
> >> and some of the original parts are Difficult or too expensive for a
> >> builder to afford!
> >>
> >> Most of the parts are made to order as it is just NOT economical to
> >> have on the shelf stock on some. But we do have short Batch runs on
> >> certain high cost items in an effort to keep the labor time down..
> >> (Flaperons, Landing Gear, Bungees, Ribs, Fiberglass parts)
> >>
> >> Raw material costs vary on a week by week basis--especailly when its
> >> small numbers--hence when are part is required we quote at todays
> >> prices...
> >>
> >> One of the biggest problems are Part finished and used kits out there---
> >> Many times we get requests for a Bellcrank, push pull rod, bracket
> >> etc....In this instance we have to duplicate as per original---usually
> >> from an original we then work on a time and materials basis
> >> but we persevere and try to help every one out there.
> >> We support you and you support us...that's the name of the game..
> >>
> >> We are able to supply an Avid "MkIV" kit right from nose to tail...
> >> this we already do for the European Market where it is recognised as
> >> the same type---for certification purposes..BUT fuselage is slightly
> >> different---longer / wider---
> >>
> >> So in a Nutshell.
> >>
> >> If Its On Your Avid, AIRDALE Probably Makes It---
> >>
> >> Maybe this is the Simple message that should go on our web page?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Steve at Airdale....
>
>
>
>
>
>
following up on Paul's comment, (John step in here) but Skystar did not appear
to do much actual fabrication beyond the weldments. And I doubt than many of us
(you) are missing weldments, perhaps with the exception of motor mounts. There
exists a cadre of suppliers to Skystar with the capability of producing the
components that are missing out in the garages of the list members. What is needed
is someone to pull from those suppliers in committment to deliver......
John McBean is a prime candidate to pull it all together..
John Kerr
-------------- Original message --------------
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <AV8RPS@TZNET.COM>
----- Original Message -----
It may now be worth more parted out and sold part by part.
Tom Jones
Ok guys, lets not be too hard on ourselves here. Before everyone gives
their airplanes away or parts them out, here's a snippet from the Avid Forum
right after Avid went out of business that might make you all feel better.
I'm sure someone will pick up the pieces and supply Kitfox parts much the
same as Airdale did for Avid. We have a lot of capable and experienced
people in this group that may have been looking for this opportunity to open
up? And when you think about it, many certified aircraft flying today are
no longer supported b
y their manufacturers, yet they continue to fly just
the same utilizing aftermarket suppliers (eg Stinson, Taylorcraft, Funk,
Bellanca, old Pipers, Lake, etc, etc)
Paul Seehafer
(Here's the message sent to the Avid group a couple years ago)
--- In avid_flyer@yahoogroups.com, "englishav8r" <UKAV8R@M...>wrote:
Airdale can make and supply ALL the parts for a Standard Avid Flyer.
(A,B,C, MkIV D, E, Speedwings and Aerobatic Speedwings)
All the Wing Parts for Magnum, and Catalina. (Ribs, Tanks, Flaperons
etc..)
BUT the original Avid Flyer is now nearly 20 years old, Cuyuna powered
and some of the original parts are Difficult or too expensive for a
builder to afford!
Most of the parts are made to order as it is just NOT econo
mical to
have on the shelf stock on some. But we do have short Batch runs on
certain high cost items in an effort to keep the labor time down..
(Flaperons, Landing Gear, Bungees, Ribs, Fiberglass parts)
Raw material costs vary on a week by week basis--especailly when its
small numbers--hence when are part is required we quote at todays
prices...
One of the biggest problems are Part finished and used kits out there---
Many times we get requests for a Bellcrank, push pull rod, bracket
etc....In this instance we have to duplicate as per original---usually
from an original we then work on a time and materials basis
but we persevere and try to help every one out there.
We support you and you support us...that's the name of the game.
.
We are able to supply an Avid "MkIV" kit right from nose to tail...
this we already do for the European Market where it is recognised as
the same type---for certification purposes..BUT fuselage is slightly
different---longer / wider---
So in a Nutshell.
If Its On Your Avid, AIRDALE Probably Makes It---
Maybe this is the Simple message that should go on our web page?
Regards,
Steve at Airdale....
,
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Where will we get parts in the future? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Snip... I'm sure someone will pick up the pieces and supply Kitfox parts
much the same as Airdale did for Avid.
We have been helping Kitfoxers for the last 2 years from a technical side
(not only on the list) and with some parts... We are also trying to gather
parts to support the Kitfox family. As most of you know Debra and I both
worked at SkyStar until 2 years ago when we started Sport Plane LLC. We are
going to do our best to continue the support. If you are in need, or are
looking for something give us a shout. I know Steve at Airdale and have
worked with him in the past... Unfortunately our web is not 100% current
so if you do not see it there give us a call or email. We are established
with several vendors and can get most parts from wheels and brakes to gas
cap fairings.
I have been on the list personally to help whenever I can... I'm not going
anywhere.. Need parts ? Let us know if can help. We may not be able to help
right away but given a little time and support we can get there.
www.sportplanellc.com
John McBean
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Seehafer
Subject: Kitfox-List: Where will we get parts in the future?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
----- Original Message ----- >
> It may now be worth more parted out and sold part by part.
> Tom Jones
Ok guys, lets not be too hard on ourselves here. Before everyone gives
their airplanes away or parts them out, here's a snippet from the Avid Forum
right after Avid went out of business that might make you all feel better.
I'm sure someone will pick up the pieces and supply Kitfox parts much the
same as Airdale did for Avid. We have a lot of capable and experienced
people in this group that may have been looking for this opportunity to open
up? And when you think about it, many certified aircraft flying today are
no longer supported by their manufacturers, yet they continue to fly just
the same utilizing aftermarket suppliers (eg Stinson, Taylorcraft, Funk,
Bellanca, old Pipers, Lake, etc, etc)
Paul Seehafer
(Here's the message sent to the Avid group a couple years ago)
--- In avid_flyer@yahoogroups.com, "englishav8r" <ukav8r@m...> wrote:
>>
>> Airdale can make and supply ALL the parts for a Standard Avid Flyer.
>> (A,B,C, MkIV D, E, Speedwings and Aerobatic Speedwings)
>> All the Wing Parts for Magnum, and Catalina. (Ribs, Tanks, Flaperons
>> etc..)
>> BUT the original Avid Flyer is now nearly 20 years old, Cuyuna powered
>> and some of the original parts are Difficult or too expensive for a
>> builder to afford!
>>
>> Most of the parts are made to order as it is just NOT economical to
>> have on the shelf stock on some. But we do have short Batch runs on
>> certain high cost items in an effort to keep the labor time down..
>> (Flaperons, Landing Gear, Bungees, Ribs, Fiberglass parts)
>>
>> Raw material costs vary on a week by week basis--especailly when its
>> small numbers--hence when are part is required we quote at todays
>> prices...
>>
>> One of the biggest problems are Part finished and used kits out there---
>> Many times we get requests for a Bellcrank, push pull rod, bracket
>> etc....In this instance we have to duplicate as per original---usually
>> from an original we then work on a time and materials basis
>> but we persevere and try to help every one out there.
>> We support you and you support us...that's the name of the game..
>>
>> We are able to supply an Avid "MkIV" kit right from nose to tail...
>> this we already do for the European Market where it is recognised as
>> the same type---for certification purposes..BUT fuselage is slightly
>> different---longer / wider---
>>
>> So in a Nutshell.
>>
>> If Its On Your Avid, AIRDALE Probably Makes It---
>>
>> Maybe this is the Simple message that should go on our web page?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Steve at Airdale....
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Hello All,
About a year ago, I completed a video project
putting all of the Kitfox promotional videos that I
could find on two DVDs. The two completed DVDs were
sent to Frank Miller for his approval for me to
distribute to the Kitfox list but he never responded.
With what has now happened to Skystar, can I legally
send these DVDs out? Any lawyers here? If so, is
there anyone on here that is interested in viewing
them?
Thanks,
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Where will we get parts in the future? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
I agree with John. He can get you almost anything you need. Skystar did
not make most of its stuff in house, and what they did from what I
understand was on jigs that were leased from the previous owner. While
this has been hard on those of us that have lost money and struggled
with this for some time, it does give some closure and allows us to move
on. The suspense is over and now someone will undoubtedly pick up the
pieces and make it better than it has been for years. The Fox is still
the best plane of its type out there and I am sure it will live on.
The real pain is for those that paid for kits and did not get them. If
you paid for a kit recently and did not get it you might consider
contacting the postal inspector. It is not who you would expect to
investigate this type of thing but they are the best at this type of
thing. They have unlimited budgets to call witnesses and investigate
over the entire county, and e-mail, checks, letters, contracts,
advertising and the like fall under mail fraud. A friend and I bought
an aircraft engine from a company that did not have what it said it had.
I pursued it with the postal inspectors and the head of that company got
54 months in federal prison. While I am sure that the principals in
Skystar are suffering a lot, and have lost everything they own, that is
still no excuse for taking money for items they know they can not
deliver. If that is in fact the case they need to go to jail.
Alan
jdmcbean wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
>Snip... I'm sure someone will pick up the pieces and supply Kitfox parts
>much the same as Airdale did for Avid.
>
>We have been helping Kitfoxers for the last 2 years from a technical side
>(not only on the list) and with some parts... We are also trying to gather
>
>
>
>
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Need Series 5 cowling |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Liebmann" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
Hi Bruce,
The Series 5 cowling is too big for the III. I have found 2 Series 5
"Lycombing" style cowls from "listers" so I will probably buy one of them. I
think its great that you have the molds for the cowling. I think that they
will bring you $$$ in the fuure allowing you to make and sell them.
I'll follow your progress if you let the list know when you start making
them.
Take care, Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Harrison" <firestarii@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Need Series 5 cowling
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrison"
> <firestarii@hotmail.com>
>
> Do you still have the round cowl available? Would it fit a III?
>
> We might be able to work something out as I have the molds for the Cessna
> style cowl. A friend and I are trying to learn the process of gel coating
> and producing cowls with these molds. Still too early to know if we will
> be
> successful.
>
>
>>From: rliebmann@comcast.net
>>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Need Series 5 cowling
>>Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:18:02 +0000
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: rliebmann@comcast.net
>>
>>Hi Listers,
>>
>>Its time to start my hunt for a Series 5 top & bottom cowl. It must be the
>>one for the Lycombing or Continental engine which is the "Cessna" style.
>>
>>I have a round cowl set which would be good for a Rotax 912 engine for
>>sale
>>too.
>>
>>Thanks, Ron N55KF
>>
>>
>>Hi Listers,
>>
>>Its time to start my hunt for a Series 5 top bottom cowl. It must be the
>>one for the Lycombing or Continental engine which is the "Cessna" style.
>>
>>I have a round cowl set which would be good for a Rotax 912 engine for
>>sale
>>too.
>>
>>Thanks, Ron N55KF
>>
>>
>
>
>
Message 15
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "daniel johnson" <kitfox91je@hotmail.com>
About fuel..it might not work on a floatplane with rigging...but could you
seal up a bag pod and use it as a tank? you'd need a transfer pump...but it
might be kind of a neat option. Just a thought..dan.
>From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 13 gal tank
>Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:17:03 -0500
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>
>Gary,
>
>I think it is Murle Williams that sells a larger header tank that fits
>behind the seat, but yet not affecting the baggage area because it fits
>tight against the seatback. Another option? I once saw someone that made
>a
>removable long range tank that went behind the seat below the turtledeck
>area for their Avid. Some people say they don't want fuel in the fuselage
>with them, but think about where it is in relationship to your head now
>(with wing tanks).
>
>If it were me I'd consider building or buying a rear fuselage auxiliary
>tank
>or larger header tank before I started tearing my wings apart. That could
>be a very large project.
>
>Just my two cents worth...
>
>Paul Seehafer
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "kitfoxjunky" <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 13 gal tank
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
> > <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
> >
> > I have been contemplating the same upgrade. My plane has standard 6 gal
> > tanks. On floats, heading into the bush, I only have realistically one
> > hour of penetration before fuel is an issue, unless I carry jerry cans
>in
> > the floats. I would love to replace one or both of my wing tanks. If
>you
> > can keep me abreast of how you make out, and perhaps snap a digital
>photo
> > now and again I would really appreciate it.
> >
> > Gary Walsh
> > KF IV Anphib 912S
> > C-GOOT
> > www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Hm Doud" <hmdoud@ev1.net>
> >
> > I'll bet there are some Kitfoxers out here who have replaced the 6 gal.
> > gas tank with a 13 gal tank????
> >
> > I want to replace my right hand tank (a 6 gal) with a 13 gal. tank that
>I
> > have. The left hand tank has already been replaced with the13 gal
>tank,
> > before I bought the plane. I haven't cut the fabric out of the RH wing
> > yet, as I wonder how to cut the convex saddles on the tank, from the
>round
> > front and rear spars. The adhesive that was used to fasten in the tank,
> > when the plane was built, seems to be pretty strong.
> >
> > Has anyone out there made the change and how did you do it?
> >
> > Herbert Doud
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Message 16
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Blackwell, Rodney" <rblackwell@ppg.com>
Grant, I would be interested. I loaned out the two VHS tapes out many times and
ended up losing them, because I couldn't remember who I loaned them too. The
one with the speedster doing acrobatics is the one I miss the most. Thanks,
RB Model III 582
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Grant Fluent
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Promotional Videos
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Hello All,
About a year ago, I completed a video project
putting all of the Kitfox promotional videos that I
could find on two DVDs. The two completed DVDs were
sent to Frank Miller for his approval for me to
distribute to the Kitfox list but he never responded.
With what has now happened to Skystar, can I legally
send these DVDs out? Any lawyers here? If so, is
there anyone on here that is interested in viewing
them?
Thanks,
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
Message 17
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Grant,
Count me in. Jeff Classic IV. Ohio
> [Original Message]
> From: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 10/21/2005 1:47:31 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Promotional Videos
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello All,
> About a year ago, I completed a video project
> putting all of the Kitfox promotional videos that I
> could find on two DVDs. The two completed DVDs were
> sent to Frank Miller for his approval for me to
> distribute to the Kitfox list but he never responded.
> With what has now happened to Skystar, can I legally
> send these DVDs out? Any lawyers here? If so, is
> there anyone on here that is interested in viewing
> them?
> Thanks,
> Grant Fluent
> Newcastle, NE
> Classic IV 912S
>
>
Message 18
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Gilliatt <jim.gilliatt@att.net>
Grant Fluent wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>
>Hello All,
> About a year ago, I completed a video project
>putting all of the Kitfox promotional videos that I
>could find on two DVDs. The two completed DVDs were
>sent to Frank Miller for his approval for me to
>distribute to the Kitfox list but he never responded.
>With what has now happened to Skystar, can I legally
>send these DVDs out? Any lawyers here? If so, is
>there anyone on here that is interested in viewing
>them?
>Thanks,
>Grant Fluent
>Newcastle, NE
>Classic IV 912S
>
>
>
>
Grant,
Count me in also.
Jim Gilliatt
West Greenwich, RI Series 7
Message 19
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Grant,
I don't know about LEGALLY, as I am sure that the material was copyrighted,
but reality should intrude here. There is no one left to tell you that you
can't distribute it.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Grant Fluent
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Promotional Videos
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Hello All,
About a year ago, I completed a video project
putting all of the Kitfox promotional videos that I
could find on two DVDs. The two completed DVDs were
sent to Frank Miller for his approval for me to
distribute to the Kitfox list but he never responded.
With what has now happened to Skystar, can I legally
send these DVDs out? Any lawyers here? If so, is
there anyone on here that is interested in viewing
them?
Thanks,
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
Message 20
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Future engine choice? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Rex,
Thanks for pointing this out. It does look like it would be great for
airplanes. I suspect that there is 8 - 10 years of development until it is
available though.
I am surprised that I hadn't heard of it before.
Another link with a useful explanation:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/quasiturbine3.htm
Randy
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Hefferan
Subject: Kitfox-List: Future engine choice?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex Hefferan <kitfox-m2@earthlink.net>
November 27, 2004 A white paper on a revolutionary new approach to engine
design has been released at the Global Powertrain Conference (GPC) in
Dearborn, Michigan, USA. Quasiturbine technology uses photo-detonation for
low-power-efficiency and requires low octane, additive-free gasoline or
diesel fuel. It is also multi-fuel compatible (including direct hydrogen
combustion) and offers a drastic reduction in existing propulsion system
weight, size, maintenance and costs. Utilised within the internal combustion
engine, the photo-detonation process could save half the gasoline now
consumed by vehicles and provide substantial environmental benefits.
The Quasiturbine looks at first like a rotary engine with a deformable rotor
made of four identical blades, but because it has no crankshaft and does not
follow sinusoidal motion, it has properties far different from the piston
and the Wankel rotary piston engine. The Quasiturbine engine has been
developed to simultaneously optimize the 14 most important engine
parameters, including compatibility with the revolutionary photo-detonation
mode (knocking), which the piston engine cannot effectively tolerate. When
taken together, these improvements increase fuel efficiency while
simultaneously reducing exhaust emissions.
Inspired by the turbine, it perfects the piston, and improves on the Wankel.
For more information visit following websites,
http://quasiturbine.promci.qc.ca/
http://www.gizmag.com/go/3501/
Message 21
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "daniel johnson" <kitfox91je@hotmail.com>
Put me in as a yes. Dan Johnson..Ohio
>From: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Promotional Videos
>Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:45:17 -0400
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
>
>Grant,
>Count me in. Jeff Classic IV. Ohio
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Date: 10/21/2005 1:47:31 PM
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Promotional Videos
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Hello All,
> > About a year ago, I completed a video project
> > putting all of the Kitfox promotional videos that I
> > could find on two DVDs. The two completed DVDs were
> > sent to Frank Miller for his approval for me to
> > distribute to the Kitfox list but he never responded.
> > With what has now happened to Skystar, can I legally
> > send these DVDs out? Any lawyers here? If so, is
> > there anyone on here that is interested in viewing
> > them?
> > Thanks,
> > Grant Fluent
> > Newcastle, NE
> > Classic IV 912S
> >
> >
>
>
Message 22
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Don,
That is the same thing I was thinking. I wouldn't
think anyone would be upset because someone is helping
to promote their product - or at least now helping it
maintain popularity...
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
--- Don Pearsall <donpearsall@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
> <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
> Grant,
> I don't know about LEGALLY, as I am sure that the
> material was copyrighted,
> but reality should intrude here. There is no one
> left to tell you that you
> can't distribute it.
>
> Don Pearsall
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Grant Fluent
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Promotional Videos
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent
> <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello All,
> About a year ago, I completed a video project
> putting all of the Kitfox promotional videos that I
> could find on two DVDs. The two completed DVDs were
> sent to Frank Miller for his approval for me to
> distribute to the Kitfox list but he never
> responded.
> With what has now happened to Skystar, can I legally
> send these DVDs out? Any lawyers here? If so, is
> there anyone on here that is interested in viewing
> them?
> Thanks,
> Grant Fluent
> Newcastle, NE
> Classic IV 912S
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 23
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Hello All,
There appears to be some interest in seeing the
promotional videos that I have put on two DVD's. For
anyone that wants to buy one, I will mail them out for
$5. This will cover the postage, dvd media, my time,
and wear & tear on my dvd burner.
If you'd rather watch them and mail them on to the
next person, we can do that too. Keep in mind it will
cost over a $1 for postage and your time to package it
and mail it to the next person.
Send me an email off list if you'd like to buy the
dvd's or just watch them and mail them on to the next
person. I'll keep the two lists and put the names in
the order that they were received. For the 8 people
that have already expressed interest, let me know what
you'd like to do.
Thanks,
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
--- Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent
> <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello All,
> About a year ago, I completed a video project
> putting all of the Kitfox promotional videos that I
> could find on two DVDs. The two completed DVDs were
> sent to Frank Miller for his approval for me to
> distribute to the Kitfox list but he never
> responded.
> With what has now happened to Skystar, can I legally
> send these DVDs out? Any lawyers here? If so, is
> there anyone on here that is interested in viewing
> them?
> Thanks,
> Grant Fluent
> Newcastle, NE
> Classic IV 912S
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 24
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Hi Grant,
I would love a copy of the Kitfox promotional videos and will pay you for
your time, shipping and materials. Please mail them to the address below
with the amount I owe you.
P.S. I've watched the 2002 Alaska video many times and love it.
Robert Harris
122 Escondido Ave, Suite 201
Vista, CA 92084
760-415-1891
Message 25
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "daniel johnson" <kitfox91je@hotmail.com>
Hi Grant..i'd love to have a copy to keep. I'll send a check ..whats your
address? Dan Johnson..and thanks for doing this. Dan Johnson 1395
Dillingham Court Columbus Ohio 43228
>From: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Promotional Videos
>Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:10:23 -0700 (PDT)
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>
>Hello All,
> There appears to be some interest in seeing the
>promotional videos that I have put on two DVD's. For
>anyone that wants to buy one, I will mail them out for
>$5. This will cover the postage, dvd media, my time,
>and wear & tear on my dvd burner.
> If you'd rather watch them and mail them on to the
>next person, we can do that too. Keep in mind it will
>cost over a $1 for postage and your time to package it
>and mail it to the next person.
> Send me an email off list if you'd like to buy the
>dvd's or just watch them and mail them on to the next
>person. I'll keep the two lists and put the names in
>the order that they were received. For the 8 people
>that have already expressed interest, let me know what
>you'd like to do.
>Thanks,
>Grant Fluent
>Newcastle, NE
>Classic IV 912S
>
>
>--- Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent
> > <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Hello All,
> > About a year ago, I completed a video project
> > putting all of the Kitfox promotional videos that I
> > could find on two DVDs. The two completed DVDs were
> > sent to Frank Miller for his approval for me to
> > distribute to the Kitfox list but he never
> > responded.
> > With what has now happened to Skystar, can I legally
> > send these DVDs out? Any lawyers here? If so, is
> > there anyone on here that is interested in viewing
> > them?
> > Thanks,
> > Grant Fluent
> > Newcastle, NE
> > Classic IV 912S
> >
> >
> >
> > browse
> > Subscriptions page,
> > FAQ,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 26
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Grant do you have a copy of the promotional tape for the model ll?
Dee
Do Not Archive
Message 27
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
I am...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Fluent" <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Promotional Videos
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello All,
> About a year ago, I completed a video project
> putting all of the Kitfox promotional videos that I
> could find on two DVDs. The two completed DVDs were
> sent to Frank Miller for his approval for me to
> distribute to the Kitfox list but he never responded.
> With what has now happened to Skystar, can I legally
> send these DVDs out? Any lawyers here? If so, is
> there anyone on here that is interested in viewing
> them?
> Thanks,
> Grant Fluent
> Newcastle, NE
> Classic IV 912S
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 28
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: tony fiacco <tony_fiacco@yahoo.com>
hello
my name is tony fiacco i live in new york.
i just received my notice of chapter 7 bankrupcy from skystar, ive been battling,
along with others for two years awaiting over 4,000 worth of parts.
i am reaching out via this forum to see what i should do at this point, i apoligize,
im a new member and its obvious by one days postings that there already
has been discussion on this.
can anyone answer my question? i would appreciate it.
i called the bankrupcy trustee and she told me i was not alone by far, how many
people are involved in this and how much money are we talking?
what are the chances of getting any part of the 4,000 worth of parts that were
never shipped to me? or will they pay the suppliers mortgage holders first?
should i go to the meeting of creditors that is being held soon?
any information would be appreciated.
thank-you
tony fiacco
wanna be kitfox builder
---------------------------------
Message 29
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Where will we get parts in the future? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
I have to disagree with Alan in one respect. Skystar was in the process of
bringing everything they could manufacture in house including Aluminum gear
(sent out for gun drilling and heat treating) and they were very near to
being able to produce poly wing tanks. They bent their own tail springs,
fabricated the flaperons and all the tooling is in fact presently owned by
Skystar - soon to be owned by Phil Reed, lien holder. The only things they
outsourced for the basic kit was the wheels / brakes covering materials and
hardware. Selling engines IMHO was their downfall, but that decision was
made by souls long gone.. Without a doubt, the parts will eventually become
available if not from one vendor - a successor to Skystar - then from a
number of specialty suppliers. Fly carefully and builders try to be
patient.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan & Linda Daniels" <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Where will we get parts in the future?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
> <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
> I agree with John. He can get you almost anything you need. Skystar did
> not make most of its stuff in house, and what they did from what I
> understand was on jigs that were leased from the previous owner. While
> this has been hard on those of us that have lost money and struggled
> with this for some time, it does give some closure and allows us to move
> on. The suspense is over and now someone will undoubtedly pick up the
> pieces and make it better than it has been for years. The Fox is still
> the best plane of its type out there and I am sure it will live on.
>
> The real pain is for those that paid for kits and did not get them. If
> you paid for a kit recently and did not get it you might consider
> contacting the postal inspector. It is not who you would expect to
> investigate this type of thing but they are the best at this type of
> thing. They have unlimited budgets to call witnesses and investigate
> over the entire county, and e-mail, checks, letters, contracts,
> advertising and the like fall under mail fraud. A friend and I bought
> an aircraft engine from a company that did not have what it said it had.
> I pursued it with the postal inspectors and the head of that company got
> 54 months in federal prison. While I am sure that the principals in
> Skystar are suffering a lot, and have lost everything they own, that is
> still no excuse for taking money for items they know they can not
> deliver. If that is in fact the case they need to go to jail.
>
> Alan
>
> jdmcbean wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>>
>>Snip... I'm sure someone will pick up the pieces and supply Kitfox parts
>>much the same as Airdale did for Avid.
>>
>>We have been helping Kitfoxers for the last 2 years from a technical side
>>(not only on the list) and with some parts... We are also trying to gather
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Message 30
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | NOw have new plane |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
Hi Colin, I was 20 miles short of Maryborough when I had to divert to
Gympy due to weather. It was a pretty ordinary weekend weather wise but
finally got through to Yeppoon on Sunday. Look after those fingers, you
only have another 9. The plane I have purchased is currently being
deregistered from VH and I will slot it into the 19 category with the
RAA. My current fox is already in that category and I finds its easy to
maintain it as no special requirements are needed to do the work. That's
a good move installing an electric trim. My old plane doesnt have one
and you do have to fly it all the time. OK if you want a bit of nose
done because you can put on a touch of flapperon to off set the nose
high attitude but if its the other way as mine is you are hands on the
whole time. The new plane does have electric trim fitted and I found it
brilliant in comparison. Have you decided on an engine yet?. I have
flown 3 foxes now and all had different engines but all performed well
depending on how far you where going and how much room you needed for
landings. My Model 1 has a 582 which is amazing in climb and short field
performance due to the power weight ratio but the new 1V with the NSI is
great for cross country but needs a bit more room due to weight.. They
are a wonderful little plane and very forgiving both in flight and on
the ground. All the best with the build, its certainly a big job.
Regards
Graeme Toft
Queensland Safety Solutions
Ph: 07 49397011
Mob: 0411476527
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin Durey
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NOw have new plane
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey" <colin@ptclhk.com>
Rex,
Congrats on the new plane!!
I was in Maryborough last weekend, and came through Brisbane on my way
home, on Monday evening, so "missed you by that much".
I'm still progressing with the kit, but have to take it a bit easy at
the
moment... I was using a straight-edge and a Stanely Knife to trim some
plywood and slightly trimmed the end of my left index finger... ouch!
I have decided to the fully streamline the empennage and install an
electric elevator trim, so have spent a fair amount of time designing
the
rib templates and the trim mechanism. When my finger permits, I'll be
back
into it again.
You mention registration change. What are you converting it to.. AUF or
GA?
Deeply envious of your closeness to flight. I'm still some months away.
Cheers
Colin Durey
Sydney.
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Hi Guys, last weekend I flew to Brisbane and took delivery of my new
NSI
> powered KF1V 1200. Had an interesting trip home with the weather gods
> throwing rain, strong winds and threat of thunder storms at us for the
4
> hour trip. Its now time for me and my new mount to become acquainted
with
> each other so while Im waiting for the registration to come through,
Im
> going over every inch of her to learn what makes her tick. It
definitely
> has potential to become a love affair.
>
> Cheers and thanks to all again.
> Do not archive
> Graeme Toft
>
>
Regards
Colin Durey
Pacific Technology Corporation Ltd
+61-418-677073 (M)
+61-2-945466162 (F)
--
19/10/2005
--
19/10/2005
Message 31
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
I might respectfully disagree here. The copywrite is owned by Skystar and I
suspect would be considered an asset to be handled by the bankruptcy judge
to hopefully compensate claimants. We have guys on the list that will lose
sizeable investments due to the bankruptcy, maybe one of them should be
first in line for this potentially valuable asset. I was at the factory on
the day bankruptcy was filed as well as the day after, I could have
wandered through the place with sticky fingers and no one would have been
the wiser. My biggest concern is for the guys waiting in line for the
crumbs. I hope some do in fact filter down.
:Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Promotional Videos
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
> <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
> Grant,
> I don't know about LEGALLY, as I am sure that the material was
> copyrighted,
> but reality should intrude here. There is no one left to tell you that you
> can't distribute it.
>
> Don Pearsall
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Grant Fluent
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Promotional Videos
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello All,
> About a year ago, I completed a video project
> putting all of the Kitfox promotional videos that I
> could find on two DVDs. The two completed DVDs were
> sent to Frank Miller for his approval for me to
> distribute to the Kitfox list but he never responded.
> With what has now happened to Skystar, can I legally
> send these DVDs out? Any lawyers here? If so, is
> there anyone on here that is interested in viewing
> them?
> Thanks,
> Grant Fluent
> Newcastle, NE
> Classic IV 912S
>
>
>
Message 32
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Where will we get parts in the future? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
Its nice to be back and hear from you Lowell. My point is that if you
prang a gear Grove can still supply them, if you need a cowl, fuel tank,
windshield, or most other parts John can have one made by the original
supplier for you. They were bringing everything in house because nobody
would sell to them anymore IMHO. Almost nobody has those items that they
built themselves. The only part that I see that is a problem is the
flaperons which are sort of special, made on jigs in-house. I may be
wrong on the lease of the fabrication jigs, but my understanding is that
Phil has or will have control of them, and the only way they have value
is if someone is using them. Phil Reed has a lot in this and he is no
dummy by a long shot. As I said the pain is with those that did not get
what they paid for. Our group is still out something like 3 engines.
Alan
Lowell Fitt wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
>I have to disagree with Alan in one respect. Skystar was in the process of
>bringing everything they could manufacture in house including Aluminum gear
>(sent out for gun drilling and heat treating) and they were very near to
>being able to produce poly wing tanks. They bent their own tail springs,
>fabricated the flaperons and all the tooling is in fact presently owned by
>Skystar - soon to be owned by Phil Reed, lien holder. The only things they
>outsourced for the basic kit was the wheels / brakes covering materials and
>hardware. Selling engines IMHO was their downfall, but that decision was
>made by souls long gone.. Without a doubt, the parts will eventually become
>available if not from one vendor - a successor to Skystar - then from a
>number of specialty suppliers. Fly carefully and builders try to be
>patient.
>
>Lowell
>
>
>
>
Message 33
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Where will we get parts in the future? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
We are also a Grove distributor....
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
Daniels
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Where will we get parts in the future?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
Its nice to be back and hear from you Lowell. My point is that if you
prang a gear Grove can still supply them, if you need a cowl, fuel tank,
windshield, or most other parts John can have one made by the original
supplier for you. They were bringing everything in house because nobody
would sell to them anymore IMHO. Almost nobody has those items that they
built themselves. The only part that I see that is a problem is the
flaperons which are sort of special, made on jigs in-house. I may be
wrong on the lease of the fabrication jigs, but my understanding is that
Phil has or will have control of them, and the only way they have value
is if someone is using them. Phil Reed has a lot in this and he is no
dummy by a long shot. As I said the pain is with those that did not get
what they paid for. Our group is still out something like 3 engines.
Alan
Lowell Fitt wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
>I have to disagree with Alan in one respect. Skystar was in the process of
>bringing everything they could manufacture in house including Aluminum gear
>(sent out for gun drilling and heat treating) and they were very near to
>being able to produce poly wing tanks. They bent their own tail springs,
>fabricated the flaperons and all the tooling is in fact presently owned by
>Skystar - soon to be owned by Phil Reed, lien holder. The only things they
>outsourced for the basic kit was the wheels / brakes covering materials and
>hardware. Selling engines IMHO was their downfall, but that decision was
>made by souls long gone.. Without a doubt, the parts will eventually
become
>available if not from one vendor - a successor to Skystar - then from a
>number of specialty suppliers. Fly carefully and builders try to be
>patient.
>
>Lowell
>
>
Message 34
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Hello Dee,
The earliest video that I have doesn't specifically
mention a model number. I do have the spec sheet that
came with the video and it says 950lb gross weight and
cabin width increased to 39 1/2" wide. The available
engines at that time were the Rotax 503, 532LC, and
the KFM 4 cylinder. Does that indicate whether it is a
model 2 or 3?
Thanks,
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
--- Dee Young <henrysfork1@msn.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young"
> <henrysfork1@msn.com>
>
> Grant do you have a copy of the promotional tape for
> the model ll?
>
> Dee
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 35
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Kfyellowbird@cs.com
Hi Grant,
I would love to have a copy of the DVDs. I'm nearing completion of a Lite 2,
912S, with all the options.
Lowell Schaper
6530 County Road 26
Minnetrista, MN 55364
763.479.2630
Message 36
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Thanks for your input Lowell. You make a very valid
point. So far, the response from people wanting to see
these videos has been overwhelming. Skystar no longer
offered any of these videos when they were in business
so I guess I don't see any harm in sending these out
to anyone who wants to see them. I am by no means
making a profit from this and would just like to help
out fellow builders/flyers.
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
--- Lowell Fitt <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt"
> <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I might respectfully disagree here. The copywrite
> is owned by Skystar and I
> suspect would be considered an asset to be handled
> by the bankruptcy judge
> to hopefully compensate claimants. We have guys on
> the list that will lose
> sizeable investments due to the bankruptcy, maybe
> one of them should be
> first in line for this potentially valuable asset.
> I was at the factory on
> the day bankruptcy was filed as well as the day
> after, I could have
> wandered through the place with sticky fingers and
> no one would have been
> the wiser. My biggest concern is for the guys
> waiting in line for the
> crumbs. I hope some do in fact filter down.
>
> :Lowell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Promotional Videos
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
> > <donpearsall@comcast.net>
> >
> > Grant,
> > I don't know about LEGALLY, as I am sure that the
> material was
> > copyrighted,
> > but reality should intrude here. There is no one
> left to tell you that you
> > can't distribute it.
> >
> > Don Pearsall
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Grant Fluent
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Promotional Videos
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent
> <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Hello All,
> > About a year ago, I completed a video project
> > putting all of the Kitfox promotional videos that
> I
> > could find on two DVDs. The two completed DVDs
> were
> > sent to Frank Miller for his approval for me to
> > distribute to the Kitfox list but he never
> responded.
> > With what has now happened to Skystar, can I
> legally
> > send these DVDs out? Any lawyers here? If so, is
> > there anyone on here that is interested in viewing
> > them?
> > Thanks,
> > Grant Fluent
> > Newcastle, NE
> > Classic IV 912S
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 37
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Grant
Your information is good. The KFM was offered only for the model ll and then for
just a short time. I believe there were a total of 8 engines sold in the US.
Just for your information the 503, 532, 582 and 912 was also available options
for the model ll. I have a tape that demonstrates some of the flying characteristics,
take off and landings on short fields. It ends with a flight thru the
AG fields at low altitude along about dusk. I didn't want this information
lost especially with Kitfox closing its doors and not knowing its future. Sounds
as though you have it covered covered pretty well. Thanks for your reply
Dee
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Grant Fluent<mailto:gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Promotional Videos
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com<mailto:gjfpilot@yahoo.com>>
Hello Dee,
The earliest video that I have doesn't specifically
mention a model number. I do have the spec sheet that
came with the video and it says 950lb gross weight and
cabin width increased to 39 1/2" wide. The available
engines at that time were the Rotax 503, 532LC, and
the KFM 4 cylinder. Does that indicate whether it is a
model 2 or 3?
Thanks,
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
--- Dee Young <henrysfork1@msn.com<mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com>> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young"
> <henrysfork1@msn.com<mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com>>
>
> Grant do you have a copy of the promotional tape for
> the model ll?
>
> Dee
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 38
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Looking for Michael Meyers |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Zimmermans" <jezim@pro-ns.net>
I want to contact Michael Meyers with a question about his Kitfox on Sportflight.
His AOL address is no longer good. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim
jezim@pro-ns.net
Message 39
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
Check out www.aero-news.net for more details of Skystar
Message 40
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "daniel johnson" <kitfox91je@hotmail.com>
Another good point is that the model 1-3 and 4-1050...at least are outdated
and who could care if the people that already own them have a video of them.
even if a startup happens..i think the best comment made so far is that
reality should play a factor...in other words..a bunch of us would really,
really love to have this video...everyone be cool, big smile....dan
>From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Promotional Videos
>Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:00:52 -0600
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
>
>Grant
>Your information is good. The KFM was offered only for the model ll and
>then for just a short time. I believe there were a total of 8 engines sold
>in the US. Just for your information the 503, 532, 582 and 912 was also
>available options for the model ll. I have a tape that demonstrates some of
>the flying characteristics, take off and landings on short fields. It ends
>with a flight thru the AG fields at low altitude along about dusk. I didn't
>want this information lost especially with Kitfox closing its doors and not
>knowing its future. Sounds as though you have it covered covered pretty
>well. Thanks for your reply
>
>Dee
>
>Do not archive
>
>----- Original Message -----
> From: Grant Fluent<mailto:gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Promotional Videos
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent
><gjfpilot@yahoo.com<mailto:gjfpilot@yahoo.com>>
>
> Hello Dee,
> The earliest video that I have doesn't specifically
> mention a model number. I do have the spec sheet that
> came with the video and it says 950lb gross weight and
> cabin width increased to 39 1/2" wide. The available
> engines at that time were the Rotax 503, 532LC, and
> the KFM 4 cylinder. Does that indicate whether it is a
> model 2 or 3?
> Thanks,
> Grant Fluent
> Newcastle, NE
> Classic IV 912S
>
>
> --- Dee Young <henrysfork1@msn.com<mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com>> wrote:
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young"
> > <henrysfork1@msn.com<mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com>>
> >
> > Grant do you have a copy of the promotional tape for
> > the model ll?
> >
> > Dee
> >
> > Do Not Archive
> >
> >
> >
> > browse
> > Subscriptions page,
> > FAQ,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Message 41
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | NOw have new plane |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey" <colin@ptclhk.com>
Graeme,
I have a 912 (85hp), can't remember if its an S or a UL just off hand.
I'll check tonight. It was in the part finished kit we bought.
I've looked at quite few suggestions for electric trim, but am not so
impressed with many of them. I've designed one that uses a small DC motor
and a syncroflex belt. The mechanism fits entirely inside the elevator
with just a small flexible cable coming back into the fuselage at the
horizointal stab mounting area. I am planning to fit an encoder to the
motor so that I can display the trim setting on the instrument panel.
I look forward to meeting you some time soon.
Regards
Colin Durey
Pacific Technolgy Corp HK
0418-677073
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Hi Colin, I was 20 miles short of Maryborough when I had to divert to
> Gympy due to weather. It was a pretty ordinary weekend weather wise but
> finally got through to Yeppoon on Sunday. Look after those fingers, you
> only have another 9. The plane I have purchased is currently being
> deregistered from VH and I will slot it into the 19 category with the
> RAA. My current fox is already in that category and I finds its easy to
> maintain it as no special requirements are needed to do the work. That's
> a good move installing an electric trim. My old plane doesnt have one
> and you do have to fly it all the time. OK if you want a bit of nose
> done because you can put on a touch of flapperon to off set the nose
> high attitude but if its the other way as mine is you are hands on the
> whole time. The new plane does have electric trim fitted and I found it
> brilliant in comparison. Have you decided on an engine yet?. I have
> flown 3 foxes now and all had different engines but all performed well
> depending on how far you where going and how much room you needed for
> landings. My Model 1 has a 582 which is amazing in climb and short field
> performance due to the power weight ratio but the new 1V with the NSI is
> great for cross country but needs a bit more room due to weight.. They
> are a wonderful little plane and very forgiving both in flight and on
> the ground. All the best with the build, its certainly a big job.
>
> Regards
> Graeme Toft
> Queensland Safety Solutions
> Ph: 07 49397011
> Mob: 0411476527
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin Durey
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NOw have new plane
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey" <colin@ptclhk.com>
>
> Rex,
>
> Congrats on the new plane!!
>
> I was in Maryborough last weekend, and came through Brisbane on my way
> home, on Monday evening, so "missed you by that much".
>
> I'm still progressing with the kit, but have to take it a bit easy at
> the
> moment... I was using a straight-edge and a Stanely Knife to trim some
> plywood and slightly trimmed the end of my left index finger... ouch!
>
> I have decided to the fully streamline the empennage and install an
> electric elevator trim, so have spent a fair amount of time designing
> the
> rib templates and the trim mechanism. When my finger permits, I'll be
> back
> into it again.
>
> You mention registration change. What are you converting it to.. AUF or
> GA?
>
> Deeply envious of your closeness to flight. I'm still some months away.
>
> Cheers
>
> Colin Durey
> Sydney.
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>>
>> Hi Guys, last weekend I flew to Brisbane and took delivery of my new
> NSI
>> powered KF1V 1200. Had an interesting trip home with the weather gods
>> throwing rain, strong winds and threat of thunder storms at us for the
> 4
>> hour trip. Its now time for me and my new mount to become acquainted
> with
>> each other so while Im waiting for the registration to come through,
> Im
>> going over every inch of her to learn what makes her tick. It
> definitely
>> has potential to become a love affair.
>>
>> Cheers and thanks to all again.
>> Do not archive
>> Graeme Toft
>>
>>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Colin Durey
> Pacific Technology Corporation Ltd
> +61-418-677073 (M)
> +61-2-945466162 (F)
>
>
> --
> 19/10/2005
>
>
> --
> 19/10/2005
>
>
Regards
Colin Durey
Pacific Technology Corporation Ltd
+61-418-677073 (M)
+61-2-945466162 (F)
Message 42
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
I have seen several Kitfoxes in the pictures with wingtip nav lights, but no
landing or tail light. I am building fiberglass mounts for a rudder mounted
tail light and wing tip navs. What is the minimum for night vfr? We just
heard this discusion and it was described only as "position lights" Can't
locate my FAR-AIM to check. Ron NB Ore.
Message 43
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
Ron all the lights can be incorporated into the one light fixture on the
wing tip . Each side has a backwards facing solid on light for the tail
position light center strobe on each side then forward facing red and green
Port / Starboard lights This is what i have and also a red strobe on top of
the fuselage just behind the turtle deck and it passed inspection just fine
Take care fly safe fly slow fly low
John Perry
kitfox 2 N718PD
-------Original Message-------
From: ron schick
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tail light
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
I have seen several Kitfoxes in the pictures with wingtip nav lights, but no
landing or tail light. I am building fiberglass mounts for a rudder mounted
tail light and wing tip navs. What is the minimum for night vfr? We just
heard this discusion and it was described only as "position lights" Can't
locate my FAR-AIM to check. Ron NB Ore.
Message 44
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Ron, the requirement is in part 23.1389. 1 rear white light, red on left,
green on right. And the FAR also describes the range each light must cover.
Not required unless you are flying from sunset to sunrise.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron schick
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tail light
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
I have seen several Kitfoxes in the pictures with wingtip nav lights, but no
landing or tail light. I am building fiberglass mounts for a rudder mounted
tail light and wing tip navs. What is the minimum for night vfr? We just
heard this discusion and it was described only as "position lights" Can't
locate my FAR-AIM to check. Ron NB Ore.
Message 45
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
Also landing lights are form Wallmart high intensity offroad mini lights $15
bucks for the pair. Mounted inside the cowl one set for taxi and the other
set for landing configuration Works Awsome on the darkest of nights with no
moon.
John Perry
-------Original Message-------
From: ron schick
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tail light
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
I have seen several Kitfoxes in the pictures with wingtip nav lights, but no
landing or tail light. I am building fiberglass mounts for a rudder mounted
tail light and wing tip navs. What is the minimum for night vfr? We just
heard this discusion and it was described only as "position lights" Can't
locate my FAR-AIM to check. Ron NB Ore.
Message 46
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Ron,
Take a look.. frst item on the pg.. http://sportplanellc.com/Products.htm
front is green (or red), rear is white and the center is strobe.... Meets
the position light requirement.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ron schick
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tail light
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
I have seen several Kitfoxes in the pictures with wingtip nav lights, but no
landing or tail light. I am building fiberglass mounts for a rudder mounted
tail light and wing tip navs. What is the minimum for night vfr? We just
heard this discusion and it was described only as "position lights" Can't
locate my FAR-AIM to check. Ron NB Ore.
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|