Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:20 AM - Series 7 tanks (Greaves)
2. 06:01 AM - Re: need builders manual (glen rowland)
3. 06:02 AM - Re: Promotional Videos (David Dawe)
4. 06:24 AM - Data Plate (Donna and Roger McConnell)
5. 06:50 AM - Re: Data Plate (Don Smythe)
6. 06:56 AM - Re: Data Plate (daniel johnson)
7. 07:19 AM - Re: skystar demise (Marco Menezes)
8. 07:23 AM - Re: Data Plate (Ron Liebmann)
9. 07:32 AM - Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos (Marco Menezes)
10. 07:34 AM - Re: Tail light (Ron Liebmann)
11. 07:35 AM - Re: Data Plate (Lowell Fitt)
12. 08:06 AM - Re: Data Plate (Randy Daughenbaugh)
13. 08:07 AM - Re: Data Plate (Donna and Roger McConnell)
14. 08:10 AM - Re: need builders manual (glen rowland)
15. 09:13 AM - Re: Tail light (ron schick)
16. 02:24 PM - Re: Data Plate (John Anderson)
17. 02:44 PM - Re: Data Plate (Michel Verheughe)
18. 02:59 PM - Data Plate (Jeffrey Puls)
19. 03:19 PM - Congratulations (Rex & Jan Shaw)
20. 03:59 PM - DVD's (Rex & Jan Shaw)
21. 04:06 PM - Re: Data Plate (Donna and Roger McConnell)
22. 04:47 PM - Re: Data Plate (Don Smythe)
23. 04:53 PM - Re: Data Plate (Don Smythe)
24. 07:20 PM - Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos (Ronald K. Stevens)
25. 09:00 PM - Re: Data Plate (ron schick)
26. 09:42 PM - Re: Series 7 tanks (Jeff Smathers)
27. 11:12 PM - Re: Data Plate (Joel Mapes)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Greaves" <tenorio41@comcast.net>
Anyone know of a good supplier for S7 tanks?
Two of the missing parts from my kit.
I need the following but it sounds like Mcbean can help me out.
Landing gear
Wheels/brakes.
Muffler and headers for 912S
Windshield and turtledeck.
Nosegear strut (if I decide against t-dragger sometime).
Seems most of this stuff easily obtainable but just concerned about the tanks.
Regards,
Wade Greaves
Oregon City
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| Subject: | need builders manual |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "glen rowland" <grav8@mybluelight.com>
Hope you can read this before you go make those coppies because some great guy
on the list just e-mailed the chapter I need in pdf format. I will still pay for
the coppies or postage if you have started. thanks Glen.
Hope you can read this before you go make those coppies because some great guy
on the list just e-mailed the chapter I need in pdf format. I will still pay for
the coppies or postage if you have started. thanks Glen.
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| Subject: | Re: Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Dawe" <davedawe@msn.com>
I have a Kitfox ll, serial # 321.
I would be interested in DVD.
>From: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Promotional Videos
>Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:47:29 -0700 (PDT)
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>
>Hello Dee,
> The earliest video that I have doesn't specifically
>mention a model number. I do have the spec sheet that
>came with the video and it says 950lb gross weight and
>cabin width increased to 39 1/2" wide. The available
>engines at that time were the Rotax 503, 532LC, and
>the KFM 4 cylinder. Does that indicate whether it is a
>model 2 or 3?
>Thanks,
>Grant Fluent
>Newcastle, NE
>Classic IV 912S
>
>
>--- Dee Young <henrysfork1@msn.com> wrote:
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young"
> > <henrysfork1@msn.com>
> >
> > Grant do you have a copy of the promotional tape for
> > the model ll?
> >
> > Dee
> >
> > Do Not Archive
> >
> >
> >
> > browse
> > Subscriptions page,
> > FAQ,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
This will sound like a silly question to some of the more experienced
builders but I need some advice on the best and least obtrusive way to
attach the data plate on a fabric airframe. I could drill through the fabric
and into the frame in two maybe three places and pop rivet it on but
drilling into the frame sure sounds extreme. Has anyone used a good RTV
adhesive to do this? Will it hold? I am looking in the area on the left side
under the horizontal stab. to do this.
Roger Mac
S7/912S
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
I fabricated an alum plate (about 1/2" bigger than the data plate).
Pre-drilled holes to match the data plate. Place the alum plate on the
inside of the fabric and then pop rivet the data plate through the fabric to
the alum plate. I can't remember if I applied some Poly Brush to the alum
plate or not?
Don Smythe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Data Plate
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
> <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
> This will sound like a silly question to some of the more experienced
> builders but I need some advice on the best and least obtrusive way to
> attach the data plate on a fabric airframe. I could drill through the
> fabric
> and into the frame in two maybe three places and pop rivet it on but
> drilling into the frame sure sounds extreme. Has anyone used a good RTV
> adhesive to do this? Will it hold? I am looking in the area on the left
> side
> under the horizontal stab. to do this.
>
>
> Roger Mac
>
> S7/912S
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "daniel johnson" <kitfox91je@hotmail.com>
Mine has hung on under the horizontal since...92..and 500hrs I didn't build
it but i'll go look when im out there today and see how it was done...dan
>From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Data Plate
>Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:24:24 -0500
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
><rdmac@swbell.net>
>
>This will sound like a silly question to some of the more experienced
>builders but I need some advice on the best and least obtrusive way to
>attach the data plate on a fabric airframe. I could drill through the
>fabric
>and into the frame in two maybe three places and pop rivet it on but
>drilling into the frame sure sounds extreme. Has anyone used a good RTV
>adhesive to do this? Will it hold? I am looking in the area on the left
>side
>under the horizontal stab. to do this.
>
>
> Roger Mac
>
> S7/912S
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: skystar demise |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Hi Tony.
Search Matronics archives for the string on Skystar's Bankruptcy. Also check EAA
website for good background story. Yes, secured creditors and priority claims
get first crack at assets. Unsecured creditors (probably you) will get a pro-rata
share of what's left. Cents on the dollar, more likely zero.
Later, if you have any specific questions contact me off-list.
tony fiacco <tony_fiacco@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: tony fiacco
hello
my name is tony fiacco i live in new york.
i just received my notice of chapter 7 bankrupcy from skystar, ive been battling,
along with others for two years awaiting over 4,000 worth of parts.
i am reaching out via this forum to see what i should do at this point, i apoligize,
im a new member and its obvious by one days postings that there already
has been discussion on this.
can anyone answer my question? i would appreciate it.
i called the bankrupcy trustee and she told me i was not alone by far, how many
people are involved in this and how much money are we talking?
what are the chances of getting any part of the 4,000 worth of parts that were
never shipped to me? or will they pay the suppliers mortgage holders first?
should i go to the meeting of creditors that is being held soon?
any information would be appreciated.
thank-you
tony fiacco
wanna be kitfox builder
---------------------------------
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Liebmann" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
My data plate is riveted to the metal cover plate that is just under the
stabilizer.
Ron N55KF
> Mine has hung on under the horizontal since...92..and 500hrs I didn't
> build
> it but i'll go look when im out there today and see how it was done...dan
>
>
>>From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Kitfox-List: Data Plate
>>Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:24:24 -0500
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
>><rdmac@swbell.net>
>>
>>This will sound like a silly question to some of the more experienced
>>builders but I need some advice on the best and least obtrusive way to
>>attach the data plate on a fabric airframe. I could drill through the
>>fabric
>>and into the frame in two maybe three places and pop rivet it on but
>>drilling into the frame sure sounds extreme. Has anyone used a good RTV
>>adhesive to do this? Will it hold? I am looking in the area on the left
>>side
>>under the horizontal stab. to do this.
>>
>>
>> Roger Mac
>>
>> S7/912S
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Lowell is right. Grant's source materials, the promo videos, are intellectual property
- assets belonging to Skystar. These are now under control of the Trustee
in Bankruptcy. Value added by Grant, i.e. production value, is his however.
This muddies the picture.
It's unlikely that Trustee would come after Grant for "giving away" DVD's at cost.
This asset is of dubious value (to anyone but us) and probably not worth ligitating
over. More likely the Trustee would abandon it, if she even becomes
aware of it. Nonetheless, to be absolutely safe, Grant should wait until the case
is discharged before charging for DVD's.
<lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt"
I might respectfully disagree here. The copywrite is owned by Skystar and I
suspect would be considered an asset to be handled by the bankruptcy judge
to hopefully compensate claimants. We have guys on the list that will lose
sizeable investments due to the bankruptcy, maybe one of them should be
first in line for this potentially valuable asset. I was at the factory on
the day bankruptcy was filed as well as the day after, I could have
wandered through the place with sticky fingers and no one would have been
the wiser. My biggest concern is for the guys waiting in line for the
crumbs. I hope some do in fact filter down.
:Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Pearsall"
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Promotional Videos
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
>
>
> Grant,
> I don't know about LEGALLY, as I am sure that the material was
> copyrighted,
> but reality should intrude here. There is no one left to tell you that you
> can't distribute it.
>
> Don Pearsall
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Grant Fluent
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Promotional Videos
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent
>
> Hello All,
> About a year ago, I completed a video project
> putting all of the Kitfox promotional videos that I
> could find on two DVDs. The two completed DVDs were
> sent to Frank Miller for his approval for me to
> distribute to the Kitfox list but he never responded.
> With what has now happened to Skystar, can I legally
> send these DVDs out? Any lawyers here? If so, is
> there anyone on here that is interested in viewing
> them?
> Thanks,
> Grant Fluent
> Newcastle, NE
> Classic IV 912S
>
>
>
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Liebmann" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
I mounted an old style Grimes clear lens tail light on the tip of my fin,
facing rearwards of course. Had to make a mounting piece out of aluminum for
it to sit on. Still looks great after 14 years.
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tail light
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
>
> Ron all the lights can be incorporated into the one light fixture on the
> wing tip . Each side has a backwards facing solid on light for the tail
> position light center strobe on each side then forward facing red and
> green
> Port / Starboard lights This is what i have and also a red strobe on top
> of
> the fuselage just behind the turtle deck and it passed inspection just
> fine
>
> Take care fly safe fly slow fly low
>
> John Perry
> kitfox 2 N718PD
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: ron schick
> Date: 10/21/05 23:32:15
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Tail light
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
> I have seen several Kitfoxes in the pictures with wingtip nav lights, but
> no
> landing or tail light. I am building fiberglass mounts for a rudder
> mounted
> tail light and wing tip navs. What is the minimum for night vfr? We
> just
> heard this discusion and it was described only as "position lights" Can't
> locate my FAR-AIM to check. Ron NB Ore.
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Roger, I attached mine to the access cover below the horizontal stabilizer.
At least for vintage 1998 that was acceptable.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Data Plate
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
> <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
> This will sound like a silly question to some of the more experienced
> builders but I need some advice on the best and least obtrusive way to
> attach the data plate on a fabric airframe. I could drill through the
> fabric
> and into the frame in two maybe three places and pop rivet it on but
> drilling into the frame sure sounds extreme. Has anyone used a good RTV
> adhesive to do this? Will it hold? I am looking in the area on the left
> side
> under the horizontal stab. to do this.
>
>
> Roger Mac
>
> S7/912S
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Roger,
I just riveted it to the fiberglass just in front of the left side door.
Used backer washers.
What Gross Weight are you going with? 1320? 1550? You may have a more
valuable plane at 1320 lbs.
Randy
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donna and Roger
McConnell
Subject: Kitfox-List: Data Plate
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
<rdmac@swbell.net>
This will sound like a silly question to some of the more experienced
builders but I need some advice on the best and least obtrusive way to
attach the data plate on a fabric airframe. I could drill through the fabric
and into the frame in two maybe three places and pop rivet it on but
drilling into the frame sure sounds extreme. Has anyone used a good RTV
adhesive to do this? Will it hold? I am looking in the area on the left side
under the horizontal stab. to do this.
Roger Mac
S7/912S
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Thanks guys, all great ideas. I think I'll go with Don's. This list is
better than having an A&P looking over your shoulder.
Roger Mac
N619RM (ready for inspection)
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Data Plate
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Roger, I attached mine to the access cover below the horizontal stabilizer.
At least for vintage 1998 that was acceptable.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Data Plate
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
> <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
> This will sound like a silly question to some of the more experienced
> builders but I need some advice on the best and least obtrusive way to
> attach the data plate on a fabric airframe. I could drill through the
> fabric
> and into the frame in two maybe three places and pop rivet it on but
> drilling into the frame sure sounds extreme. Has anyone used a good RTV
> adhesive to do this? Will it hold? I am looking in the area on the left
> side
> under the horizontal stab. to do this.
>
>
> Roger Mac
>
> S7/912S
>
>
>
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| Subject: | need builders manual |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "glen rowland" <grav8@mybluelight.com>
Sorry folks. That last message from me was to an individual I didn't mean to post
it to the list...
Sorry folks. That last message from me was to an individual I didn't mean to post
it to the list...
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Thanks for all of the information. Yes I do plan on flying at night. I also
plan on some limited aerobatics. That is why I want to build in anything
needed to get these allowed in my operating limitations when inspected.
Thanks again everyone, It sounds like I have plenty of lights.
Ron NB Ore
do not archive
>From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Tail light
>Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:52:21 -0700
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
>Ron, the requirement is in part 23.1389. 1 rear white light, red on left,
>green on right. And the FAR also describes the range each light must cover.
>Not required unless you are flying from sunset to sunrise.
>
>Don Pearsall
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron schick
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Tail light
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
>I have seen several Kitfoxes in the pictures with wingtip nav lights, but
>no
>
>landing or tail light. I am building fiberglass mounts for a rudder
>mounted
>
>tail light and wing tip navs. What is the minimum for night vfr? We just
>heard this discusion and it was described only as "position lights" Can't
>locate my FAR-AIM to check. Ron NB Ore.
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Where abouts on the fuse should the data plate be fixed? John A.
From: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Data Plate
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
I fabricated an alum plate (about 1/2" bigger than the data plate).
Pre-drilled holes to match the data plate. Place the alum plate on the
inside of the fabric and then pop rivet the data plate through the fabric to
the alum plate. I can't remember if I applied some Poly Brush to the alum
plate or not?
Don Smythe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Data Plate
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
><rdmac@swbell.net>
>
>This will sound like a silly question to some of the more experienced
>builders but I need some advice on the best and least obtrusive way to
>attach the data plate on a fabric airframe. I could drill through the
>fabric
>and into the frame in two maybe three places and pop rivet it on but
>drilling into the frame sure sounds extreme. Has anyone used a good RTV
>adhesive to do this? Will it hold? I am looking in the area on the left
>side
>under the horizontal stab. to do this.
>
>
> Roger Mac
>
> S7/912S
>
>
Discover fun and games at @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/kids
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
> I am looking in the area on the left side
> under the horizontal stab. to do this.
Roger, mine is pop rivetted in the triangular aluminium plate under the
horizontal stab, on the left side. I have a model 3 that has that plate and I
guess you plane doesn't, otherwise you wouldn't be asking, am I right?
Cheers,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
When the FAA inspected my plane they made me affix my data plate to the inside
of the stainless steel firewall behind the co-pilots ruddder pedals. They stated
that if there was a fire the plate would stay intact with the surface and in
all likelehood would survive. I may not but it would. Jeff Cklassic IV Ohio
Jeffrey Puls
pulsair@mindspring.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Hi all,
>
> In the midst of all the doom and gloom, I hope you won't mind a
> little bit of good personal news. It's been 14 months since the
> accident that destroyed my beloved Kitfox IV and I've spent the time
> recovering from two shattered legs and severe facial injuries.
>
> It's taken 7 surgeries so far (one more anticipated) and a lot of
> physical therapy, but yesterday I went down to the local AME and was
> issued a class III medical certificate! I just need a flight review
> and I'll be legal to act as pilot in command once again. Where's
> that horse, I'm ready to get back on it!
>
> Thanks for your indulgence,
>
> Mike G.
> N728KF
Congratulations Mike, you are an inspiration to us all. Your presence on
this list is also most valuable so I'm pleased you will be around for a
while yet. Hope you soon find new wings and may they be Kitfox. It takes
more than the collapse of Skystar to put me off. As you say Kitfox is the
best.
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Hello All,
About a year ago, I completed a video project
putting all of the Kitfox promotional videos that I
could find on two DVDs. The two completed DVDs were
sent to Frank Miller for his approval for me to
distribute to the Kitfox list but he never responded.
With what has now happened to Skystar, can I legally
send these DVDs out? Any lawyers here? If so, is
there anyone on here that is interested in viewing
them?
Hi ! Grant,
if you get rolling on this I would be interested for one in
those DVD's.
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Michel,
Yes indeed the Model 7 has cover plates on both sides at the
horizontal stab. And the cover is probable as good as any place to attach
the data plate. I just think that if I were to loose that cover then the
plate is lost too. I would prefer to attach it to something that doesn't get
removed. And Don's idea seems easy enough to do. But I appreciate your
input.
Best Regards
Roger Mac
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Data Plate
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
> I am looking in the area on the left side
> under the horizontal stab. to do this.
Roger, mine is pop rivetted in the triangular aluminium plate under the
horizontal stab, on the left side. I have a model 3 that has that plate and
I
guess you plane doesn't, otherwise you wouldn't be asking, am I right?
Cheers,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
I believe the FAA wants the plate to be near the rear of the plane. In case
of an emergency landing/fire the rear of the plane would be more survivable
therefore, saving the plate.
Don Smythe
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Data Plate
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
> <janderson412@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Where abouts on the fuse should the data plate be fixed? John A.
>
>
> From: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Data Plate
> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:49:35 -0400
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
>
> I fabricated an alum plate (about 1/2" bigger than the data plate).
> Pre-drilled holes to match the data plate. Place the alum plate on the
> inside of the fabric and then pop rivet the data plate through the fabric
> to
> the alum plate. I can't remember if I applied some Poly Brush to the alum
> plate or not?
>
> Don Smythe
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Data Plate
>
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
>><rdmac@swbell.net>
>>
>>This will sound like a silly question to some of the more experienced
>>builders but I need some advice on the best and least obtrusive way to
>>attach the data plate on a fabric airframe. I could drill through the
>>fabric
>>and into the frame in two maybe three places and pop rivet it on but
>>drilling into the frame sure sounds extreme. Has anyone used a good RTV
>>adhesive to do this? Will it hold? I am looking in the area on the left
>>side
>>under the horizontal stab. to do this.
>>
>>
>> Roger Mac
>>
>> S7/912S
>>
>>
>
>
> Discover fun and games at @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/kids
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
It seems I remember that the data plate should be attached so it cannot be
easily removed. Putting the plate on a removable piece of the airplane
didn't seem to meet the intent of the law.
Don Smythe
----- Original Message -----
> the data plate. I just think that if I were to loose that cover then the
> plate is lost too. I would prefer to attach it to something that doesn't
> get
> removed.
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Promotional Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ronald K. Stevens" <rkstevens@verizon.net>
Grant,
I'd certainly be interested in getting a copy. Just let me know where
to send the check and how much you'd like for it.
Thanks,
Ron Stevens
Series 6
Grant Fluent wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>
>Hello All,
> About a year ago, I completed a video project
>putting all of the Kitfox promotional videos that I
>could find on two DVDs. The two completed DVDs were
>sent to Frank Miller for his approval for me to
>distribute to the Kitfox list but he never responded.
>With what has now happened to Skystar, can I legally
>send these DVDs out? Any lawyers here? If so, is
>there anyone on here that is interested in viewing
>them?
>Thanks,
>Grant Fluent
>Newcastle, NE
>Classic IV 912S
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
I agree that it should be permanently attached. My neighbor (RV6) had to
move his from an inspection cover to the main fuselage to pass his aw
inspection. On the Kitfox with fabric your dar may insist it be riveted to
metal. I plan on a flange under the fabric to satisfy the requirement
>From: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Data Plate
>Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:50:34 -0400
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
>
>It seems I remember that the data plate should be attached so it cannot be
>easily removed. Putting the plate on a removable piece of the airplane
>didn't seem to meet the intent of the law.
>
>Don Smythe
>
>----- Original Message -----
> > the data plate. I just think that if I were to loose that cover then the
> > plate is lost too. I would prefer to attach it to something that doesn't
> > get
> > removed.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Series 7 tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jeff Smathers <jsmathers@cybcon.com>
Hi Wade,
I just put my KF5 away for the winter....I know it's kinda' early and all
but I am saving some pennies for another kit project. I was thinking of a
KF7 but that status changed a bit last week.....
Come on by sometime, I'm in Molalla.
Jeff Smathers KF5 N456JT NSI Subaru EA-81 and CAP140
Greaves wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Greaves" <tenorio41@comcast.net>
>
> Anyone know of a good supplier for S7 tanks?
> Two of the missing parts from my kit.
> I need the following but it sounds like Mcbean can help me out.
> Landing gear
> Wheels/brakes.
> Muffler and headers for 912S
> Windshield and turtledeck.
> Nosegear strut (if I decide against t-dragger sometime).
> Seems most of this stuff easily obtainable but just concerned about the tanks.
> Regards,
> Wade Greaves
> Oregon City
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Joel Mapes" <foxfloatflyer@hotmail.com>
I'm about to attach my data plate as well. FAA AC20-27F states that the data
plate may must be attached so that it cannot be removed during normal
service. The Seattle FSDO advised me that the tail access covers on my model
5 were not a suitable location for the data plate. AC20-27F further states
that the data plate should be adjacent to the aft of the rear-most entrance
door or on the fuselage near the tail surface. I am planning to use Don's
method of riveting through a backing plate aft of the pilot side door. I
want people to see that it was built by me.
Joel
Model 5 912 GTA CS prop Aerocomp amphibs
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