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1. 05:17 AM - Re: Kitfox 6 airfoil (Paul Seehafer)
2. 05:39 AM - SV: Spins (Michel Verheughe)
3. 06:13 AM - 912UL (kalbrecht1221@earthlink.net)
4. 07:14 AM - Re: 912UL (kurt schrader)
5. 07:39 AM - Re: 912UL (Roger Standley)
6. 09:18 AM - Re: 912UL (John Disher)
7. 10:20 AM - What's your Phone Number NSI engine and parts (Harris, Robert)
8. 03:36 PM - Re: CAM 100's (kurt schrader)
9. 04:41 PM - 912UL Static RPM (HALME@aol.com)
10. 04:41 PM - 6061 (John Anderson)
11. 05:21 PM - Re: 912UL Static RPM (Brett Walmsley)
12. 06:15 PM - Hey Kitfox forum ;) (Sid Hausding)
13. 07:14 PM - Re: Hey Kitfox forum ;) (Ted Palamarek)
14. 08:41 PM - Re: 912UL Static RPM (Lowell Fitt)
15. 09:07 PM - Re: Hey Kitfox forum ;) (Don Pearsall)
16. 10:21 PM - Re: SV: Kitfox movies (James Shumaker)
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 6 airfoil |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Ron:
I sent you information from Harry Ribblett's original description of the
Avid aifoil rework, including the original and the new airfoil number. The
new number he states is GA35 A614 (fwiw).
Paul Seehafer
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rkstevens@verizon.net>
>
> Does anybody have handy the Kitfox 6 (5 thru 7 would work too) NACA
> airfoil number/designation? I can't seem to find it anywhere. I need it
> for my son's school science project.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron
> Series 6 NSI Turbo CAP 140
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Alan & Linda Daniels [aldaniels@fmtc.com]
> If you get stupid slow and cross
> controlled this plane will aggressively enter a spin.
If, by "aggressively," you mean "quickly" then you have answered my question. Thank
you, Alan.
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kalbrecht1221@earthlink.net" <kalbrecht1221@earthlink.net>
I have a KitfoxIV with Rotax 912UL and am having problems!
I have new MIL H6000 fuel lines - what is an alternative for 93 Octane auto fuel?
The engine looses power @4600-5000RPM's and the carb bowls have only 1/4" of fuel
at that point.
I've checked the fuel pump and it is normal at 4.5PSI.
The carbs were rebuilt by Lockwood.
I will now check the NEW fuel lines for flow or obstruction.
I need help - what else can I do?
Thanks,
Glen Albrecht
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Glen,
That is a real problem. Others have had fuel line
problems with the Mil spec hoses. Your's may be the
same cause. Let us know what you find with the hose
flow checks.
I am using Tygon lines on my plane now. I have
polyurethane hoses already to change out on my next
annual. I am going to try Bing hoses later. You can
get Bing, Tygon and Polyurethane hose from Aircraft
Spruce. Check the specks for what you like and change
to one of them. Bing seems to have the best specs to
me and I'll probably end up keeping them. I'm just
"experimenting" with each to see.
Kurt S. S-5
--- "kalbrecht1221@earthlink.net"
<kalbrecht1221@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I have a KitfoxIV with Rotax 912UL and am having
> problems!
>
> I have new MIL H6000 fuel lines - what is an
> alternative for 93 Octane auto fuel?
>
> The engine looses power @4600-5000RPM's and the carb
> bowls have only 1/4" of fuel at that point.
>
> I've checked the fuel pump and it is normal at
> 4.5PSI.
>
> The carbs were rebuilt by Lockwood.
>
> I will now check the NEW fuel lines for flow or
> obstruction.
>
> I need help - what else can I do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glen Albrecht
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger Standley" <taildragon@msn.com>
Glen,
Most of us that are burning auto fuel have switched to SAE30R9 fuel injection lines
available at your local auto parts store.
----- Original Message -----
From: kalbrecht1221@earthlink.net<mailto:kalbrecht1221@earthlink.net>
To: kitfox-list<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:12 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: 912UL
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kalbrecht1221@earthlink.net<mailto:kalbrecht1221@earthlink.net>" <kalbrecht1221@earthlink.net<mailto:kalbrecht1221@earthlink.net>>
I have a KitfoxIV with Rotax 912UL and am having problems!
I have new MIL H6000 fuel lines - what is an alternative for 93 Octane auto fuel?
The engine looses power @4600-5000RPM's and the carb bowls have only 1/4" of
fuel at that point.
I've checked the fuel pump and it is normal at 4.5PSI.
The carbs were rebuilt by Lockwood.
I will now check the NEW fuel lines for flow or obstruction.
I need help - what else can I do?
Thanks,
Glen Albrecht
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Disher" <jdisher@intergate.com>
I haven't followed this real close, but to a degree it sounds a little like
something I ran into a number of years ago. I had two incidents where on a
max or long heavy take-off effort, the engine fell down to very low RPM and
virtually no power at about 200 feet. (Just about the time I was out over
the swamp.) I didn't touch the throttle and made a very slow easy turn back
to the airport. A couple of on-lookers were very surprised that I managed to
make it back to the runway. One even asked if I carried toilet paper in the
plane.
I was sure it was a fuel problem, but I couldn't find anything wrong. The
first one destroyed a lot of confidence in the little plane, the second one
really un-nerved me. I called Skystar, I asked everybody I knew, but no one
had a solution. I started pouring over the maintenance and overhaul manuals
and all of a sudden there it was. A notation that said something to the
effect of "Do not block or change the length of the carb bowl vent tube as
it might upset the pressure differential for the carburetor."
Well, the lights went on, because about a month before the first incident, I
had noticed one day that if the left carb needle and seat stuck and flooded
that carb, the gasoline would run right down on the muffler, so I lengthened
the hose so it could be re-routed out of the way.
I took the plane out on the ramp and tied it down very securely ands did max
effort run-ups to simulate a take-off of as hot high density day. I did 10
of them and on three occasions, the engine would falter after a while and on
all of them the EGT on the left bank of cylinders would drop drastically.
(Now you have time to pay attention to these things.) Then I put the short
hose back on and did 10 more with no problem at all. Seeing that was the
problem, I fastened the lower portion of my log hose to the firewall and
fastened a small funnel in the top and just laid the vent tube in the funnel
Now if it leaks or overflows, it runs down and out of the way, and I have
not upset anything on the carb.
I don't know whether this is anything like the problems folks are having,
but check that vent hose. It's critical
-------Original Message-------
From: kurt schrader
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912UL
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo
com>
Glen,
That is a real problem. Others have had fuel line
problems with the Mil spec hoses. Your's may be the
same cause. Let us know what you find with the hose
flow checks.
I am using Tygon lines on my plane now. I have
polyurethane hoses already to change out on my next
annual. I am going to try Bing hoses later. You can
get Bing, Tygon and Polyurethane hose from Aircraft
Spruce. Check the specks for what you like and change
to one of them. Bing seems to have the best specs to
me and I'll probably end up keeping them. I'm just
"experimenting" with each to see.
Kurt S. S-5
--- "kalbrecht1221@earthlink.net"
<kalbrecht1221@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I have a KitfoxIV with Rotax 912UL and am having
> problems!
>
> I have new MIL H6000 fuel lines - what is an
> alternative for 93 Octane auto fuel?
>
> The engine looses power @4600-5000RPM's and the carb
> bowls have only 1/4" of fuel at that point.
>
> I've checked the fuel pump and it is normal at
> 4.5PSI.
>
> The carbs were rebuilt by Lockwood.
>
> I will now check the NEW fuel lines for flow or
> obstruction.
>
> I need help - what else can I do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glen Albrecht
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| Subject: | What's your Phone Number NSI engine and parts |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Rick,
I'm really sorry about your plane. I believe I saw pictures of it on the
internet in the past and it was beautiful.
Can you please e-mail the best phone numbers to call you? My friend lives
near Temecula and is building a model V. He does not use the internet so I
printed out your earlier e-mail for him.
Robert
Cell 760-415-1810
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Thanks Alan,
It is good to see more engine options that work well.
Sounds like you got a winner.
Kurt S.
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--- Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com> wrote:
> I did have to make a bump on the cowl for the bottom
> of the redrive, and
> one for the starter, which is why I would consider
> using a prop
> extension and a stock cowl next time. I solved the
> cooling problem with
> a 3 inch intake hole made from plastic pipe glassed
> in just below the
> normal intake, right in front of the two radiators.
> I tried all sorts
> of ducting, but what works best is just the basic
> opening in front of
> the radiator with lots of room for air to get out. I
> normally fly the
> planes I am working on and my wife uses the CAM
> powered plane. That is
> the only one she wants to fly. It really has been
> simple and reliable.
> She only burns about 3 gph, but she is not as high
> strung as I am .
> Knowing what I know now it is probably one of the
> simplest engines to
> install. The only down side is the weight. My plane
> came in at 912
> pounds, but that includes a BRS. The fuel injected
> CAM 125 is what I
> think is the ticket. It is close to the same weight
> and puts out over
> 130 hp. That's 2.4 to 1 redrive power so it should
> really get off and
> climb. I am trying to work a deal to get one using
> my redrive and try it.
__________________________________
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| Subject: | 912UL Static RPM |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: HALME@aol.com
We have just started running the 912UL, with a GSC three blade prop. What
static RPM
at sea level should we expect. We are getting 5200 with the pitch set at 10
degrees.
Thanks
Hal Merry
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Does anyone know of a good sauce for 6061 T6 bar. I need a piece of 8"dia
about 4.5" long?
Become a fitness fanatic @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/health
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| Subject: | Re: 912UL Static RPM |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
Food for thought.
Borrow or buy (they're cheap) a photo tach used by RC builders and verify
your tach is correct. Remember to do the math for the gear box.
----- Original Message -----
From: <HALME@aol.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: 912UL Static RPM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: HALME@aol.com
>
> We have just started running the 912UL, with a GSC three blade prop. What
> static RPM
> at sea level should we expect. We are getting 5200 with the pitch set at
> 10
> degrees.
>
> Thanks
>
> Hal Merry
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Hey Kitfox forum ;) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Sid Hausding <avidsid@yahoo.com>
Sid Hausding has invited you to join hi5. By joining hi5, you will be connected
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| Subject: | Hey Kitfox forum ;) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
Fellows; Don't click on any of the links below --- this is a
scam to get into and steal your address book then the same
message is sent to all the people in your address book plus
you start getting crap from all over.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Ted
Edmonton, Ab
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Sid Hausding
Subject: Kitfox-List: Hey Kitfox forum ;)
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Sid Hausding
<avidsid@yahoo.com>
Sid Hausding has invited you to join hi5. By joining hi5,
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| Subject: | Re: 912UL Static RPM |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
I have had three of these optical tachs. the first one was great, but it
disappeared, the second one was junk - the numbers never stabilized. The
new one is even better than the first one and surprizingly it is smaller and
cheaper - Hanger 9 Micro Digital Tach.
I use a spreadsheet to create a conversion chart for the RPMs I am
interested in and tape it on the unit. The Rotax tachs will vary as much as
200 RPM as the ambient temperatures change.
About the RPMs, I can't remember.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912UL Static RPM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
>
> Food for thought.
> Borrow or buy (they're cheap) a photo tach used by RC builders and verify
> your tach is correct. Remember to do the math for the gear box.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <HALME@aol.com>
> To: <Kitfox-List@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: 912UL Static RPM
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: HALME@aol.com
>>
>> We have just started running the 912UL, with a GSC three blade prop.
>> What
>> static RPM
>> at sea level should we expect. We are getting 5200 with the pitch set at
>> 10
>> degrees.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Hal Merry
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Hey Kitfox forum ;) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Thanks for the warning, Ted.
Sid, did you send this deliberately? If not, maybe some Trojan or virus has
taken over your computer. Check it out.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted Palamarek
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Hey Kitfox forum ;)
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
Fellows; Don't click on any of the links below --- this is a
scam to get into and steal your address book then the same
message is sent to all the people in your address book plus
you start getting crap from all over.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Ted
Edmonton, Ab
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Sid Hausding
Subject: Kitfox-List: Hey Kitfox forum ;)
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Sid Hausding
<avidsid@yahoo.com>
Sid Hausding has invited you to join hi5. By joining hi5,
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox movies |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Micheal
The problem of overspeeding is probably the greatest danger. The most likely problem
scenerio is getting upside down and going too fast. The recovery technique
is to roll upright and then pull out without over loading the wings. As
the aircraft goes over the redline, the g load tolerance actually decreases and
if the air is not smooth, the gust factor increases the shock load so the pull
up load has to be decreased even futher. The model III is slow to roll and
will point the nose down in a roll to a degree that will not let the roll be
completed before a recovery pull up must be initiated (as compared to aerobatic
aircraft).
Is that what you were wondering?
Jim Shumaker
Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe
> From: Alan & Linda Daniels [aldaniels@fmtc.com]
> I know that we have also discussed
> the aggressive spin entry of the Fox several years ago also.
Could you explain this a bit deeper, please? I will NEVER do aerobatics in my Kitfox,
I just want to know what to expect if I am not careful.
Cheers,
Michel
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