---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/20/05: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:22 AM - Re: How hot it gets? (kurt schrader) 2. 12:53 AM - AW: Construction manual (Werner Keiper) 3. 04:20 AM - Re: AW: Construction manual (Dan Billingsley) 4. 06:13 AM - Pin Map of kitfox owners (Marwynne Kuhn) 5. 08:14 AM - Re: Pin Map of kitfox owners (John King) 6. 08:33 AM - Re: AW: Construction manual (kurt schrader) 7. 08:44 AM - Re: AW: Construction manual (Dan Billingsley) 8. 08:47 AM - Re: Wing tank venting (Bradley M Webb) 9. 08:47 AM - Re: AW: Construction manual (jdmcbean) 10. 09:15 AM - Re: How hot it gets? (Vic Jacko) 11. 09:35 AM - Re: AW: Construction manual (Marco Menezes) 12. 10:03 AM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 11/19/05 (Jim Carriere) 13. 10:20 AM - Re: How hot it gets? (Jim Carriere) 14. 10:42 AM - Re: Pin Map of kitfox owners (Clem Nichols) 15. 11:09 AM - Re: How hot it gets? (Michel Verheughe) 16. 11:13 AM - Re: Pin Map of kitfox owners (Michel Verheughe) 17. 11:41 AM - Re: Wing tank venting (Graeme Toft) 18. 03:42 PM - Re: Pin Map of kitfox owners (Fox5flyer) 19. 03:55 PM - nsi subaru ea81 120 hp ignition system (John Perry) 20. 05:37 PM - Re: nsi subaru ea81 120 hp ignition system (Fox5flyer) 21. 05:49 PM - Re: nsi subaru ea81 120 hp ignition system (Ronald K. Stevens) 22. 06:08 PM - Re: Kitfox tires (ron schick) 23. 06:16 PM - NSI (Clem Nichols) 24. 06:35 PM - Re: nsi subaru ea81 120 hp ignition system (John Perry) 25. 09:49 PM - Re: How hot it gets? (Guy Buchanan) 26. 10:42 PM - Re: How hot it gets? (Lowell Fitt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:22:56 AM PST US From: kurt schrader Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: How hot it gets? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader Just a quick note. Gotta go to S. America soon. Have your tried a level slip to control speed with full throttle? You can also do tight turns (60 degrees AOB) pulling some "G's" to decend if necesary. That bleeds speed off pretty good and the engine can keep going. But climbing first, if you aren't near a place to land, is the best first step. That gives you minutes to think right away before any other actions. Spring loaded to full throttle is better than going to idle if the cable breaks. :-) Old airplanes didn't have a throttle. They just "blipped" the ignition off and on to control the engine. Those were low compression engines though. Doing that at full throttle might blow the heads off a modern engine. Haven't got the time to think thru it all right now, but I think you could: 1. Don't Panic! You don't die at VNE. It is just more risky to exceed it. 2. Climb. Open the doors for drag, if it is warm. 3. Navigate if you can. Check your fuel to see how much time you have before it is a real problem. 4. Communicate 5. Slip to level off? 6. Tight turns over the field to descend. 7. Remember, as long as you have fuel and daylight, don't hurry it. 8. Long runways are nicer if you have a choice. You can kill the ignition and slow down right above the runway to land nicely anywhere on it. If you check your fuel and see that you have plenty, then take the time to come up with more ideas to control speed and try them in flight. Everything is working. You just can't slow down. That is all for now my friend. Rest time. Kurt S. --- Michel Verheughe wrote: > Hello Kurt, > > On Nov 18, 2005, at 6:19 AM, kurt schrader wrote: > > > > It is barely 66F tonight in Florida. Ha ha. :-) > > Here, it is about 0 degrees C and beautiful flying > weather! CAVOK and no wind. > > > Any slack available to use to put a crimp on > > before or after the soldered end? > > > I guess I could get some slack on the wire itself, > fixing the sleeve at > a different point. But I'll never be 100% sure the > wire will always > hold, it could come loose at the throttle handle or > the "inverter." As > opposed to the 582, the Jabiru pulls the carb to > WOT, if the cable > breaks. My problem is that, at WOT and level, I bust > the red line. So, > if something like that should happen, my intention > is to: > 1) Declare an emergency to ATC. > 2) Climb, to keep the speed under Vne. > 3) Eventually ask for QDM to the nearest airfield > (emergency situations makes your brain soft and I'd > rather ask for help that sorting out maps > on my own. > 4) Get high enough so that I can make a landing with > the engine off. > The problem is, if the carb is stuck at WOT, I don't > think I'll be able to start again in flight. > I think I'll have only one chance. > > What do you think, my experienced friend? Something > wrong or missing > in my "emergency procedure list?" > > Cheers, > Michel __________________________________ http://farechase.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:53:41 AM PST US From: "Werner Keiper" Subject: AW: Kitfox-List: Construction manual --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Werner Keiper" Hi Jeff, Can you also email me the PDF version of the Construction manual? Thank you ! Werner Keiper E-Mail: werner@keiper-koerdorf.de -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Jeff Sattin Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. November 2005 03:12 An: kitfox-list@matronics.com Betreff: RE: Kitfox-List: Construction manual --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeff Sattin" Dave, I have a PDF version of the manual I can forward by email. Jeff Sattin -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of D& D Syverson Subject: Kitfox-List: Construction manual --> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson --> Good evening, Does anyone know where a person can get a copy of, rent, borrow, or get access to a firewall forward construction manual for a Model 7 configured for a rotax 912ULS? I have the complete firewall forward parts for the rotax engine. Anyone close to my neighborhood (Minnesota) with a manual? This was one of the items I lost in the bankruptcy deal. I have the main construction manual, but am missing the part for the firewall forward. I am sure that was supposed to come with the engine. Didn't get the engine I purchased so didn't get the manual either. Sincerely, Dave S. St Paul, MN ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:20:06 AM PST US From: Dan Billingsley Subject: Re: AW: Kitfox-List: Construction manual --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dan Billingsley Jeff, I think a lot of guys could benefit from that PDF file. How about puting it on one of the common sites? Maybe John McBean's site would be a good place to go for it? John? Dan B. Werner Keiper wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Werner Keiper" Hi Jeff, Can you also email me the PDF version of the Construction manual? Thank you ! Werner Keiper E-Mail: werner@keiper-koerdorf.de -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Jeff Sattin Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. November 2005 03:12 An: kitfox-list@matronics.com Betreff: RE: Kitfox-List: Construction manual --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeff Sattin" Dave, I have a PDF version of the manual I can forward by email. Jeff Sattin -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of D& D Syverson Subject: Kitfox-List: Construction manual --> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson --> Good evening, Does anyone know where a person can get a copy of, rent, borrow, or get access to a firewall forward construction manual for a Model 7 configured for a rotax 912ULS? I have the complete firewall forward parts for the rotax engine. Anyone close to my neighborhood (Minnesota) with a manual? This was one of the items I lost in the bankruptcy deal. I have the main construction manual, but am missing the part for the firewall forward. I am sure that was supposed to come with the engine. Didn't get the engine I purchased so didn't get the manual either. Sincerely, Dave S. St Paul, MN ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:22 AM PST US From: "Marwynne Kuhn" Subject: Kitfox-List: Pin Map of kitfox owners --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marwynne Kuhn" Just signed up ! We are located at Hilltop Lakes Texas (0TE4) See ya Marwynne ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:55 AM PST US From: John King Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Pin Map of kitfox owners --> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King Ben, Great idea. Nice to see that the map is world wide. Would like to see more pilots outside the USA sign up. Where are the Norway guys??? -- John King Warrenton, VA Ben Baltrusaitis wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" > >The Starduster group I belong to just created a pin map of owners and it is growing. >I created on for the Kitfoxes. Please add your name, picture, and comments to this and let's keep track of the Kitfoxes! > >http://www.frappr.com/kitfox > >Also, I hope everyone has a wonderful Thanksgiving! >Ben > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:00 AM PST US From: kurt schrader Subject: Re: AW: Kitfox-List: Construction manual --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader The question comes up as to whether we are violating a copyright for a company that is no longer there? Before we avoided copying and passing this stuff on, but are we legally OK now that SS is no more? Don't want John McB, or whomever, in trouble for doing it... kurt S. --- Dan Billingsley wrote: > > Jeff, > I think a lot of guys could benefit from that PDF > file. How about puting it on one of the common > sites? Maybe John McBean's site would be a good > place to go for it? John? > Dan B.-koerdorf.de __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:54 AM PST US From: Dan Billingsley Subject: Re: AW: Kitfox-List: Construction manual --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dan Billingsley Good question...and a valid one. Thought about that after my post. Thanks Kurt kurt schrader wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader The question comes up as to whether we are violating a copyright for a company that is no longer there? Before we avoided copying and passing this stuff on, but are we legally OK now that SS is no more? Don't want John McB, or whomever, in trouble for doing it... kurt S. --- Dan Billingsley wrote: > > Jeff, > I think a lot of guys could benefit from that PDF > file. How about puting it on one of the common > sites? Maybe John McBean's site would be a good > place to go for it? John? > Dan B.-koerdorf.de __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:08 AM PST US From: "Bradley M Webb" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Wing tank venting --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" Two routes you can take...place shutoff valves at each tank outlet, or get one-way check valves and place them in-line. I understand PCV valves are good for this, and can be replaced at condition (annual) inspection easily and cheaply. Bradley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Wing tank venting --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" Might check to see how level your parking area is. Then if you install at least one fuel shutoff to the header tank, it wont transfer. Also make filling easier. Be sure and put a remove before flight flag on the shut off valve. Worked for me. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Graeme Toft Subject: Kitfox-List: Wing tank venting --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" Hi guys, I have done a search of the archieves for an answer to this question but have been unsuccessful. My right wing tanks fills from my left leaving more in the right than the left. This creates a problem when folding the wing because it vents very quickly all over my beautiful new plane. Is there any way that the tanks can compensate equally when running through a gascolator so I dont have to drain excess fuel before folding the wings. I have found that 20Liters left per side is OK but when it all drains across I end up with 40 in one and very little in the other. The paint work has already been affected by this happening twice. Cheers Graeme Toft ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:54 AM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: AW: Kitfox-List: Construction manual --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" That is the only reason I do not have the SL's and SB's up currently... Or even some other things that could be useful. Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kurt schrader Subject: Re: AW: Kitfox-List: Construction manual --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader The question comes up as to whether we are violating a copyright for a company that is no longer there? Before we avoided copying and passing this stuff on, but are we legally OK now that SS is no more? Don't want John McB, or whomever, in trouble for doing it... kurt S. --- Dan Billingsley wrote: > > Jeff, > I think a lot of guys could benefit from that PDF > file. How about puting it on one of the common > sites? Maybe John McBean's site would be a good > place to go for it? John? > Dan B.-koerdorf.de __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:15:20 AM PST US From: "Vic Jacko" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: How hot it gets? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" Many years ago in the infancy of aviation most engines ran at full throttle all the time. The speed of the engine was controlled by turning the mags off and on to regulate the engine rpm. In actual footage in early movies you can hear the engine sputtering as the mags are modulated. ( I am assuming most engines had two mags) I am not suggesting this will work well without causing damage to the engine but in an emergency one does what one must to save the bacon. IMHO, Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: "kurt schrader" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: How hot it gets? > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > > > Just a quick note. Gotta go to S. America soon. > > Have your tried a level slip to control speed with > full throttle? You can also do tight turns (60 > degrees AOB) pulling some "G's" to decend if necesary. > That bleeds speed off pretty good and the engine can > keep going. But climbing first, if you aren't near a > place to land, is the best first step. That gives you > minutes to think right away before any other actions. > > Spring loaded to full throttle is better than going to > idle if the cable breaks. :-) > > Old airplanes didn't have a throttle. They just > "blipped" the ignition off and on to control the > engine. Those were low compression engines though. > Doing that at full throttle might blow the heads off a > modern engine. > > Haven't got the time to think thru it all right now, > but I think you could: > > 1. Don't Panic! You don't die at VNE. It is just > more risky to exceed it. > 2. Climb. Open the doors for drag, if it is warm. > 3. Navigate if you can. Check your fuel to see how > much time you have before it is a real problem. > 4. Communicate > 5. Slip to level off? > 6. Tight turns over the field to descend. > 7. Remember, as long as you have fuel and daylight, > don't hurry it. > 8. Long runways are nicer if you have a choice. You > can kill the ignition and slow down right above the > runway to land nicely anywhere on it. > > If you check your fuel and see that you have plenty, > then take the time to come up with more ideas to > control speed and try them in flight. Everything is > working. You just can't slow down. > > That is all for now my friend. Rest time. > > Kurt S. > > --- Michel Verheughe wrote: > >> Hello Kurt, >> >> On Nov 18, 2005, at 6:19 AM, kurt schrader wrote: >> > >> > It is barely 66F tonight in Florida. Ha ha. :-) >> >> Here, it is about 0 degrees C and beautiful flying >> weather! CAVOK and no wind. >> >> > Any slack available to use to put a crimp on >> > before or after the soldered end? >> > >> I guess I could get some slack on the wire itself, >> fixing the sleeve at >> a different point. But I'll never be 100% sure the >> wire will always >> hold, it could come loose at the throttle handle or >> the "inverter." As >> opposed to the 582, the Jabiru pulls the carb to >> WOT, if the cable >> breaks. My problem is that, at WOT and level, I bust >> the red line. So, >> if something like that should happen, my intention >> is to: >> 1) Declare an emergency to ATC. >> 2) Climb, to keep the speed under Vne. >> 3) Eventually ask for QDM to the nearest airfield >> (emergency situations makes your brain soft and I'd >> rather ask for help that sorting out maps >> on my own. >> 4) Get high enough so that I can make a landing with >> the engine off. >> The problem is, if the carb is stuck at WOT, I don't >> think I'll be able to start again in flight. >> I think I'll have only one chance. >> >> What do you think, my experienced friend? Something >> wrong or missing >> in my "emergency procedure list?" >> >> Cheers, >> Michel > > > __________________________________ > http://farechase.yahoo.com > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:19 AM PST US From: Marco Menezes Subject: Re: AW: Kitfox-List: Construction manual --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes Skystar's assets, which include intellectual property such as its manuals, "belong" to the bankruptcy estate, now under control of the Bankruptcy trustee. Theoretically, there could be a question of copywrite infringement by publishing these manuals w/o permission. As a practical matter, I doubt anyone will do anything about it but the risk is there. kurt schrader wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader The question comes up as to whether we are violating a copyright for a company that is no longer there? Before we avoided copying and passing this stuff on, but are we legally OK now that SS is no more? Don't want John McB, or whomever, in trouble for doing it... kurt S. --- Dan Billingsley wrote: > > Jeff, > I think a lot of guys could benefit from that PDF > file. How about puting it on one of the common > sites? Maybe John McBean's site would be a good > place to go for it? John? > Dan B.-koerdorf.de __________________________________ Marco Menezes Model 2 582 N99KX ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:03:40 AM PST US From: Jim Carriere Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 11/19/05 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Carriere > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tom Jones > > Sam, > Hysol EA9460 is used on the wings by most builders now instead of > 3M > Scotch weld. It is a two part (Part A and Part B) and much easier > to > work with than the Scotchweld. It should be available from most > any of > the homebuilder's suppliers such as Aircraft spruce. You most > likely > will find the leads here on this list for hardware. John McBean > can get > you the Spars. A couple weeks ago someone said they may have a > left > flapperon I think. Tom, I haven't seen 9460 in the Aircraft Spruce (or Wicks) catalog. Both carry a similar product, Hysol 9430. John McBean carries 9460 (you're the man, John!). I've only used 9460 myself, since it came with my kit, and I am completely satisfied with it. 9430 and 9460 are quite similar, they both have a 40 minute pot life, they are both "high performance." The differences- 9430 has better shear and peel strength, 9430 is mixed 4:1, 9460 is 1:1 (volume or weight), and 9430 is thicker (before it cures, obviously). So which is better? That depends. Some glue realities: bond strength is usually limited by surface preparation and the materials being bonded. With either of these the wood will breaks before the glue. Bond strength in wood depends on the glue's ability to penetrate the surface. Although 9430 is stronger, but 9460 may be more effective for wood since it is thinner (can get into wood grain better), don't hold me to this. I think since 9460 is mixed 1:1 is much easier to mix accurately, especially if you get it in a double syringe. Since the components have the consistency of toothpaste, you can't exactly pour them into a measuring cup, instead you make two globs that are exactly the same size (as opposed to one glob exactly four times the size of another glob). By the way, the numbers I found for T-88 show it's strength to be about the same as 9430. Again, I've never used either, just throwing out another data point. Jim in NW FL Series 7 in progress References, if you're still reading: Hysol specs: www.loctite.at/int_henkel/loctite_us/binarydata/pdf/LT3355v5_FullCatalog.pdf T-88 specs (found with Google): http://www.mertons.com/Epoxy/epoxy_resins/T88.html __________________________________ http://farechase.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:20:32 AM PST US From: Jim Carriere Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: How hot it gets? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Carriere > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe > So, > if something like that should happen, my intention is to: > 1) Declare an emergency to ATC. > 2) Climb, to keep the speed under Vne. > 3) Eventually ask for QDM to the nearest airfield (emergency > situations > makes your brain soft and I'd rather ask for help that sorting out > maps > on my own. > 4) Get high enough so that I can make a landing with the engine > off. > The problem is, if the carb is stuck at WOT, I don't think I'll be > able > to start again in flight. I think I'll have only one chance. > > What do you think, my experienced friend? Something wrong or > missing > in my "emergency procedure list?" Not too bad, I'll add a couple. On 2) Climb- consider climbing at best rate airspeed until you are within glide distance of a suitable landing site. 2.5) (?) Clean- retract the flaps. (A good idea with any engine problem because it will help the climb rate and extend the glide distance if the engine does fail.) 5) Tighten the straps (just in case). 6) If/when you secure the engine, remember to turn off the fuel valve and aux pump (just in case). I agree with your remark about emergency situations and the brain getting soft. Human factors are sometimes a wildcard. Jim in NW FL Series 7 in progress __________________________________ http://farechase.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:42:28 AM PST US From: "Clem Nichols" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Pin Map of kitfox owners --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" Ben: A great idea. Thanks for getting it going. Clem Nichols Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Baltrusaitis" Subject: Kitfox-List: Pin Map of kitfox owners > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" > > The Starduster group I belong to just created a pin map of owners and it > is growing. > I created on for the Kitfoxes. Please add your name, picture, and comments > to this and let's keep track of the Kitfoxes! > > http://www.frappr.com/kitfox > > Also, I hope everyone has a wonderful Thanksgiving! > Ben > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:09:43 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: How hot it gets? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe Thanks for your comments, Kurt and Jim. Side slipping to reduce the speed at involuntary WOT was also in my mind. Have a nice time in South America, gringo Kurt and see you soon! Cheers, Michel do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:13:02 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Pin Map of kitfox owners --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe > > Great idea. Nice to see that the map is world wide. Would like to see > more pilots outside the USA sign up. Where are the Norway guys??? > ... hang on to you knickers, John ... I am working at it! :-) The truth is that I am on a Macintosh, trying to make sense of that site with Safari, the Mac browser and ... hum, I think this site was create solely for the pleasure of Microsoft worshipers. Time to get IE out of its folder! :-) ... I think I should be there now. Cheers, Michel do not archive ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:41:27 AM PST US From: "Graeme Toft" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Wing tank venting --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" Great idea, thanks guys. Do not archive Graeme Toft ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bradley M Webb" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Wing tank venting > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" > > Two routes you can take...place shutoff valves at each tank outlet, or get > one-way check valves and place them in-line. I understand PCV valves are > good for this, and can be replaced at condition (annual) inspection easily > and cheaply. > > Bradley > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Wing tank venting > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" > > Might check to see how level your parking area is. Then if you install at > least one fuel shutoff to the header tank, it wont transfer. Also make > filling easier. Be sure and put a remove before flight flag on the shut > off > valve. Worked for me. > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Graeme Toft > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Wing tank venting > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" > > Hi guys, I have done a search of the archieves for an answer to this > question but have been unsuccessful. My right wing tanks fills from my > left > leaving more in the right than the left. This creates a problem when > folding > the wing because it vents very quickly all over my beautiful new plane. Is > there any way that the tanks can compensate equally when running through a > gascolator so I dont have to drain excess fuel before folding the wings. I > have found that 20Liters left per side is OK but when it all drains across > I > end up with 40 in one and very little in the other. The paint work has > already been affected by this happening twice. > > Cheers > > Graeme Toft > > > -- > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:42:12 PM PST US From: "Fox5flyer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Pin Map of kitfox owners --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" Great site Ben. Nice to have a place where we can show off a little and see where everyone else is located. On behalf of the Kitfox folks, Thank You! Deke Morisse Kitfox List CoAdministrator ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Baltrusaitis" Subject: Kitfox-List: Pin Map of kitfox owners > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" > > The Starduster group I belong to just created a pin map of owners and it is growing. > I created on for the Kitfoxes. Please add your name, picture, and comments to this and let's keep track of the Kitfoxes! > > http://www.frappr.com/kitfox > > Also, I hope everyone has a wonderful Thanksgiving! > Ben > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:55:55 PM PST US From: "John Perry" Subject: Kitfox-List: nsi subaru ea81 120 hp ignition system --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" Help everyone i have a friend who just bought a kitfox with this nsi engine and it is having ignition problems. Where do we go to get a new ignition pickup for the dual ignition and the other parts for the ignition system Need help ASAP as he is grounded in a strange town and wants to get home . thanks all John Perry ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:37:21 PM PST US From: "Fox5flyer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: nsi subaru ea81 120 hp ignition system --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" Those iginitions (Electromotive) are pretty much bullet proof, however there have been some rare failures. Have him throw a new set of spark plugs in before he does anything else. A bad plug can start and run fine, but start missing under heavy load such as takeoff power. Finding a pickup might be a challenge. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Perry" Subject: Kitfox-List: nsi subaru ea81 120 hp ignition system > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" > > Help everyone i have a friend who just bought a kitfox with this nsi engine > and it is having ignition problems. Where do we go to get a new ignition > pickup for the dual ignition and the other parts for the ignition system > Need help ASAP as he is grounded in a strange town and wants to get home . > > thanks all > John Perry > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:49:49 PM PST US From: "Ronald K. Stevens" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: nsi subaru ea81 120 hp ignition system --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ronald K. Stevens" The ignition system is made in Northern Virginia. I believe it's an Electromotive ignition. Don't tell 'em it's for an airplane - say it's for a race car, boat, air boat, or whatever. If you can describe the pickup to them, they may be able to provide some help. Electromotive is still in business - unlike NSI (arrgh..I have one too -- I'm a little worried about parts availability myself) Next best option would be to try a speed shop. You would most likely have to show them the original pickup so they could match it up. Best of luck. Ron -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Perry Subject: Kitfox-List: nsi subaru ea81 120 hp ignition system --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" Help everyone i have a friend who just bought a kitfox with this nsi engine and it is having ignition problems. Where do we go to get a new ignition pickup for the dual ignition and the other parts for the ignition system Need help ASAP as he is grounded in a strange town and wants to get home . thanks all John Perry ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:08:19 PM PST US From: "ron schick" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox tires --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" Walmart supersrores can order the ribbed turfglides and sometimes stock the zigzagged turfglides. Ron NB Ore >From: Tc9008@aol.com >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox tires >Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 20:13:23 EST > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tc9008@aol.com > >I want to put larger tires on my KF IV. I have 600x6 on now. Where should I >look for them? >Travis > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:16:42 PM PST US From: "Clem Nichols" Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" I don't know if it's true or not, but one of the members on the Yahoo Subaru group said that NSI was being reorganized, and would be known as Maxwell Propulsion Systems beginning about the first of the year. No hits, however, when I googled the name. I, for one, hope it's true, and that they'll provide better service than NSI. Clem Nichols ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:35:00 PM PST US From: "John Perry" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: nsi subaru ea81 120 hp ignition system --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" thanks Deke any idea if the dual ignition box that then runs to the single plugs is made by electromotive also ? we have eliminated it to this box now .. Thanks for everyones help . John Perry ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:49:48 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: How hot it gets? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan At 02:08 PM 11/19/2005, you wrote: >4) Get high enough so that I can make a landing with the engine off. >The problem is, if the carb is stuck at WOT, I don't think I'll be able >to start again in flight. I think I'll have only one chance. I don't know why. In early WW I the aircraft were full throttle all the time and power was controlled by turning the ignition on and off. Why couldn't you do the same? Guy Buchanan K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 10:42:08 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: How hot it gets? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Not sure how the other engines are configured, but the Rotax engines use what I think are called bugnuts - the screw in devices that hold the cables to the carburetor arm. With these things you can easily change out the cables at annual in five minutes or so - mine takes about three feet of 1/16" cable available at the local hardware store. An extremely unlikely chance of cable breakage in a years time and a really good check of cable clamping. Will need carb balancing, but that should be part of the annual anyway. Has anyone ever heard of a runaway engine due to cable failure? Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Buchanan" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: How hot it gets? > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan > > At 02:08 PM 11/19/2005, you wrote: >>4) Get high enough so that I can make a landing with the engine off. >>The problem is, if the carb is stuck at WOT, I don't think I'll be able >>to start again in flight. I think I'll have only one chance. > > I don't know why. In early WW I the aircraft were full throttle all the > time and power was controlled by turning the ignition on and off. Why > couldn't you do the same? > > > Guy Buchanan > K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. > > Do not archive > > >