Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Sat 11/26/05


Total Messages Posted: 27



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:23 AM - Re: Progress and Root Fairings (Brett Walmsley)
     2. 06:36 AM - Re: Progress and Root Fairings (Rick)
     3. 08:01 AM - b52 (Jim Gilliatt)
     4. 08:34 AM - Re: b52 (Don Pearsall)
     5. 09:33 AM - Frappr Map (Ben Baltrusaitis)
     6. 09:37 AM - The List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! (Matt Dralle)
     7. 09:45 AM - Re: Frappr Map (Don Pearsall)
     8. 10:34 AM - Re: Useful load (Michael Gibbs)
     9. 11:23 AM - Re: UPdate on model 5 Kitfox Long wing parting out (Bruce Harrison)
    10. 11:43 AM - Re: The List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! (Rich Williamson)
    11. 01:38 PM - M4/1200 Speedster Fule system (Donald STEVENSON)
    12. 01:50 PM - Re: M4/1200 Speedster Fule system (Rick)
    13. 02:08 PM - Re: Frappr Map (Michel Verheughe)
    14. 02:24 PM - Re: Frappr Map (Clifford Begnaud)
    15. 02:51 PM - Re: Frappr Map (David Dawe)
    16. 03:52 PM - Re: Frappr Map (AMuller589@aol.com)
    17. 04:36 PM - Re: Frappr Map (Donald STEVENSON)
    18. 04:42 PM - Re: Frappr Mapjust added tonite cool site (Aerobatics@AOL.COM)
    19. 04:44 PM - Re: Frappr Map (Aerobatics@aol.com)
    20. 04:50 PM - inter-rib bracing (Gerald Jantzi)
    21. 05:01 PM - Re: Frappr Map (Donald STEVENSON)
    22. 05:24 PM - Re: M4/1200 Speedster Fule system (Glenn Horne)
    23. 06:25 PM - Re: Frappr Map (Aerobatics@aol.com)
    24. 06:55 PM - Kitfox IV seat (Tc9008@aol.com)
    25. 07:49 PM - Re: Kitfox IV seat (Tim Vader)
    26. 09:14 PM - Re: inter-rib bracing (Rick)
    27. 11:55 PM - trailer suspension (Graeme Toft)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:23:25 AM PST US
    From: "Brett Walmsley" <n93hj@numail.org>
    Subject: Re: Progress and Root Fairings
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <n93hj@numail.org> Guy, I have emailed you some photos of how I finished mine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Buchanan" <bnn@nethere.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Progress and Root Fairings > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> > > All, > I'm coming down to the wire. Today I routed the fuel lines from > the wing to the header tank. I used hose for the first foot to accommodate > wing rotation and the rest was bent aluminum. I thought it was going to be > a nightmare, but it turned out to be clean and easy. The major outstanding > fabrication tasks are wing root fairings, flaperon bearings, and doors. > Regarding wing root fairings, I seem to remember an interesting > idea involving a modeling clay mold and a fiberglass part. My concern is > that I think I need to cover the forward spar pin access holes to eliminate > an entry point. (Unfortunately the sheet metal behind the pin was not close > fit to the window.) I need to fold the wings every time I fly so need a > really easy but waterproof system for the root fairings. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > > Guy Buchanan > K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. > >


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    Time: 06:36:53 AM PST US
    From: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
    Subject: Progress and Root Fairings
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net> Brett, I made a set from fiberglass, but used duct tape to achieve the flow contour I was after. I think a thin layer of clay over the tape or all clay would have worked better. I used the blind rivnuts for the screw attachments and I did cover the pin and the upper part of the door hinge. If you want it water tight might I suggest a thin layer of compressible foam either attached to the underside of the covers or on the windshield and wing. Make your mold as smooth as possible as this will save you a lot of work. If I had to do it again I would try to make them as thin and light as possible, maybe out of carbon fiber, one layer. Oh, used tinnerman washers and machine screws. Hope that helps a little. They were a pain in the rear. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brett Walmsley Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Progress and Root Fairings --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <n93hj@numail.org> Guy, I have emailed you some photos of how I finished mine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Buchanan" <bnn@nethere.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Progress and Root Fairings > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> > > All, > I'm coming down to the wire. Today I routed the fuel lines from > the wing to the header tank. I used hose for the first foot to accommodate > wing rotation and the rest was bent aluminum. I thought it was going to be > a nightmare, but it turned out to be clean and easy. The major outstanding > fabrication tasks are wing root fairings, flaperon bearings, and doors. > Regarding wing root fairings, I seem to remember an interesting > idea involving a modeling clay mold and a fiberglass part. My concern is > that I think I need to cover the forward spar pin access holes to eliminate > an entry point. (Unfortunately the sheet metal behind the pin was not close > fit to the window.) I need to fold the wings every time I fly so need a > really easy but waterproof system for the root fairings. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > > Guy Buchanan > K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. > >


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    Time: 08:01:20 AM PST US
    From: Jim Gilliatt <jim.gilliatt@att.net>
    Subject: b52
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Gilliatt <jim.gilliatt@att.net> Sorry guys, I inadvertantly deleted the model b52 website. Can someone repost it. Thanks, Jim Gilliatt


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    Time: 08:34:28 AM PST US
    From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
    Subject: b52
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net> John King is the one who posted this: http://www.mcgirt.net/RC/VIDEOS/Giant_B52 Don Pearsall -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Gilliatt Subject: Kitfox-List: b52 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Gilliatt <jim.gilliatt@att.net> Sorry guys, I inadvertantly deleted the model b52 website. Can someone repost it. Thanks, Jim Gilliatt


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    Time: 09:33:30 AM PST US
    From: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net>
    Subject: Frappr Map
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net> Hey Kitfox Pilots, We need 11 more members to get to 100 on the Kitfox Frappr Map. http://www.frappr.com/kitfox If you haven't yet done so, please locate yourself and post a picture of your steed. I know of 3 more in PA who are not on the map and I'm sure some of you know people, too. Please pass the word and the link (the link is not searchable on the Frappr site). The Lancair guys have 180. We should be able to beat that because we don't lose 3-10 planes & pilots each year. :>) Also, you are not limited to one picture. Please feel free to post other pictures of your plane that you are proud of. Ben DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 09:37:18 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: The List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed!
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Hi Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors? As a number of people have pointed out, the List seems at least, if not a whole lot more, as valuable as a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical your magazine subscription. We won't even talk about a newsstand price... :-) Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa or M/C on the SSL Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by popping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! I love to feel the love... :-) Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft do not archive


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    Time: 09:45:24 AM PST US
    From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
    Subject: Frappr Map
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net> That mapping system is great, but here is something even more amazing. It is a zoomable satellite imaging system that lets you find just about anything on earth. The major population centers are so well photographed that I could see my car in my driveway. http://earth.google.com/ Don Pearsall -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Baltrusaitis Subject: Kitfox-List: Frappr Map --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net> Hey Kitfox Pilots, We need 11 more members to get to 100 on the Kitfox Frappr Map. http://www.frappr.com/kitfox If you haven't yet done so, please locate yourself and post a picture of your steed. I know of 3 more in PA who are not on the map and I'm sure some of you know people, too. Please pass the word and the link (the link is not searchable on the Frappr site). The Lancair guys have 180. We should be able to beat that because we don't lose 3-10 planes & pilots each year. :>) Also, you are not limited to one picture. Please feel free to post other pictures of your plane that you are proud of. Ben DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 10:34:02 AM PST US
    From: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Useful load
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net> John sez: >Dur to the fact the weak link has been replaced with heavier lift >stuts and fittings The plane now has a gross weight 1200 I didn't realize that your plane was not stock. The guy asking about his model 2's weights may not have realized that your answer didn't apply to his plane either. >why pay for insurance that most of the time the lawyers find >something to nulify it anyway on it in 5 years i would have paid as >much iinsurance as the plane cost me originaly... There were no lawyers involved after my accident--they just paid the claim after verifying that all the paperwork was in order. Good thing too, since my passenger's medical bills came to $125,000. If you don't carry liability insurance that covers in-flight situations I hope you are either independently wealthy and can afford to pay for such things OR you never carry passengers and never crash into people or property on the ground. Liability coverage is typically quite a bit less expensive than hull coverage. It might be worth another look. Mike G. N728KF


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    Time: 11:23:06 AM PST US
    From: "Bruce Harrison" <firestarii@hotmail.com>
    Subject: UPdate on model 5 Kitfox Long wing parting out
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrison" <firestarii@hotmail.com> No, I guess it was my misunderstanding. I thought what you had for sale was the plastic streamline strut material, about 6' per length, that can be attached to the strut tubes for streamlining and drag reduction. I would not have any need for the strut to wing fairings--Thanks for getting back to me on it. >From: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net> >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: UPdate on model 5 Kitfox Long wing parting out >Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:39:08 -0800 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net> > >The paypal account is wingsdown@comcast.net Just add 15.00 for shipping. If >you use paypal I will have your address. Just making sure we are on the >same >sheet of music. These go at the point of attachment at the strut to the >wing. When I read your reply from my original post there was some doubt in >my own mind that maybe you thought it was for something for the entire >strut. Just making sure. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bruce >Harrison >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: UPdate on model 5 Kitfox Long wing parting out > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrison" ><firestarii@hotmail.com> > >I will take the wing strut fairings, set of 4, unused @$50 if they are >still >available. Contact me off list to arrange payment. >bharrisonsc@earthlink.net > > > >From: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net> > >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > >Subject: Kitfox-List: UPdate on model 5 Kitfox Long wing parting out > >Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:13:44 -0800 > > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net> > > > > > > I have had several folks ask what was still available so I thought I > >would > >do an up date. Probably missed something. The response has been great. I > >would like to thank all for the kind comments from the bottom of my >heart. > >This group is the best, great guys and gals. I could never leave this >list > >even if I never fly again. > > > >Rick > > > > The following items are being offered for sale. Prices and offerings > >updated as of 11/22/05. > > > > The engine is broken in and has less than 75 hours. > >If there is something not listed please let me know and we can figure > >something out. I am offering at aapx. 75 percent of new unless >otherwise > >stated or agreed upon. Many of these items are based on 2002 prices. No > >tax and actual UPS shipping only. I accept Pay Pal at >wingsdown@comcast.net > >for fast delivery. I will be posting pics to a web site soon. If you >need > >some right away just let me know. > > > > > > I have decided to sell the engine package less firewall engine mount to > >firewall. It was originally an NSI engine. I have completely rebuilt the > >engine to include the heads. The redrive unit has the latest upgrade from > >NSI, which I believe was new shaft and material, larger bearings and the > >like. Below is a list of mods and parts: > > > >Total run time appx 70 hours, engine was not running at time of nose >wheel > >collapse. Oil pan was damaged by nose strut but can be easily repaired or > >replaced for about 300 dollars. . Engine has since been run, and oil > >changed > >as well as redrive oil. This engine makes over 150HP. I will include > >radiator and necessary plumbing from aircraft. This engine is complete >and > >ready to mount to NSI engine mount for aircraft of your choosing. It was >in > >a model 5 Kitfox. Mounts on engine are included. No break in necessary, >its > >been done. Keep in mind the rotax engine is going for about 20K and does > >not > >make this kind of power nor is it rated for continuous full power > >operation. > > > >New pistons and rings > >All new bearings and seals > >Pistons, pins, rings and block cryogenic treated, not over sized > >Pistons ceramic coated tops molly sides > >Cylinders line honed > >Crank zero run out > >reconditioned rods with new bushings weight matched > >new turbo cam coated by Swain > >reconditioned lifters > >stainless down pipe and stack > >heads have stainless valves, 3 angle valve cut, ceramic tops and >scallops, > >new bronze guides, coated HP springs, reconditioned rockers > >intake manifold special Swain heat dissipating coating > >Oil lines are Teflon > >New Taylor ignition wires > >Stainless headers by Dawley Aviation with special Swain coating, with EGT > >holes > >MOCAL oil thermostat plumbed with lines will provide cooler > >New oil pump > >remote filter mount and Teflon lines > >new water pump > >Turbo completely rebuilt and upgraded to include new compressor section, > >Swain coated exhaust turbine section, hard line cooling line and more. > >Ellison TBI 3A, all fuel lines Teflon to include line to firewall > >Powder coated aluminum valve covers > >Dual electronic ignition and pick ups, programmable > >Alternator with overage voltage unit > >Engine block heater, not that I needed it here in sunny California > > > >I will give the list first shot and then either sell it locally or list >on > >EBay. This is a strong smooth engine. You wont be disappointed. If you >have > >the non-turbo NSI then this would be an easy swap for much more power and > >higher density altitude capabilities. If your serious and would like to >see > >her run let me know ASAP. > > > >ITEMS FOR SALE: > > > >EA-81 TURBO engine with redrive ready to run $10,000 list 2002 price > >with > >out upgrades list 11,500. > > > >Vacuume pump Kit for EA-81 includes pump, drive assy, suction gauge by > >rapco, filter and clamps. $750.00 list at $998.00 > > > >CAP 140 In-flight adjustable three blade hub assembly, includes hub > >assembly, electronics control unit, panel switch and indicator lamp No > >blades $1,100 list $2165 OBO > > > >CAP digital pitch indication gage with latest software upgrade $521.00 >list > >$695.00 SOLD > > > >Header tank aluminum***SOLD > > > >Air oil separators 2 custom aluminum powder coated$288 ea list $385 > > > >Strobe kit with Nav lights multi station comet selectable flash, plus > >collision white belly tail strobe $657.00 List $877 > > > >Strobe Whelen model 70821 red lens anti collision with power pack $181.00 > > > >Garmin 295 GPS with latest data base, extras $500.00 list N/A SOLD > > > >Transponder Garmin GTX 327 solid state with rack, $ 1425.00 list > >$1895.00. > >Pre wired Transcal encoder add $150.00 to price SOLD > > > >Comm Radio Bendix King (97A TSO with mounting rack $825 list $1100.oo >SOLD > > > >E.L.T. Ameri king AK-450 with comm. Capability $138.00 list $184 SOLD > > > >Headset Bose Aviation X like new with case and original box $850.00 list > >$995.00. SOLD > > > >Headset Lightspeed 20X with soft case, very nice $326.00 list $435.00. > >SOLD > > > >Traffic Alert ADT-300 Barley installed in aircraft $490.00 list >$650.00 > >SOLD > > > >Fuel Flow gage JPI-450 with transducer $430.00 list $573.75 SOLD > > > >EGT digital by E.I. $180.00 list $239 I have two $180. each. OBO > > > >Hand Held Com/Nav radio VXA-200 by Yaesu. This unit has it all. Altitude > >indication, density altitude pressure altitude, temperature and VOR >great > >rugged little radio, with extra NMHI battery $465.00 List $620.00 > > > >Com/Nav antenna by Advance Aircraft Electronics model VHF5-1, thin flat > >for > >many applications to include composite aircraft. $94.00 list at $125.00 > >Volt/Amp gage digital by E.I. Electronics international model VA-1A > >$214.00 list $285.00 > > > >Carb Ice temp gage by Westach with sending probe $53.00 lists at $69.80 > > > >Intercom by PS Engineering model PM1000 II With digital cockpit >recorder, > >$335 List $449.00 > > > >Electric Clock MD-90 BLET $169.00 List $226 > > > >Battery RG35AXC with custom aluminum power coated hold down and cables > >$125.00 SOLD > > > >Battery PC680 with aluminum mounting box $75.00 was set up as back up > >battery. SOLD > > > > > >PRIMARY INSTRUMENTS > > > >Air speed indicator W27859 by Winter zero to 180MPH $240.00 list >$320.00 > > > >Directional Gyro model RCA11A-8 non electric TSO $438.00 list $548.00 > > > >Altimeter zero to 20,000 feet model BG-3 $406.00 list $542.00 > > > >Vertical Speed indicator $232.00 list $310.00 > > > >Turn coordinator by Electro gyro corp. model 1394T100-7Z 12-32V $630.00 > >list $840.00 > > > >HSI Attitude Gyro most likely RC Allen , it is vacuum but will have to > >verify model and price > > > >VDO gages > > > >2 1/8 Tachometer, water temp,oil pressure, oil temperature, boost > >0-15psi, > >RPM gage large 3 1/8 maybe 3 not sure, egt 0-1600F > > > >Interior > > > >Oregon Aero temper foam seats, two sets plus extra seat cushion for seat > >height adjustment, done in dark blue Best seats i have ever sat on makes > >the flight very comfortable.$499 list at $670.00 SOLD > > > >Leather interior , this is for a model 5, may work on others, medium >blue, > >carbon fiber seat reinforced seat back included, leather covered front, > >rear > >baggage cover with white embroidered EXPERIMENTAL on opening cover, open > >area under turtle deck, center consol sides, left and right kick panels, > >control stick boots and covers. I may have enough to do the glare shied >but > >will have to check. $1,200 List N/A > > > >Cushions Standard velour in blue and red four cushions total $100.00 >SOLD > > > >Heater cockpit 210CFM high output with two fans $260 list $345 > > > >Airframe > > > >Turtle deck with smoke lexan glass, has scratch in glass $150.00 > > > > > >Cowling upper only not round type, NACCA scoop installed , also two sets >of > >vents aft, oil access and inspection door. $300.00 SALE PENDING > > > >Cargo bay bag with aluminum bottom insert, $95.00 > > > >Long Wings with lift struts and braces, struts fared in, flapperons. >These > >items were damaged. Left substantially more than the right. They will >both > >need have the fabric removed and be inspected, repaired and re-certified > >for > >airworthiness. I would say major damage to the left wing and minor to > >moderate to the right. I can e-mail detail pics of both. Considering the > >cost of new wings at over $4000.00 I think a fair starting point would be > >about $1500 I am open to offers higher or a little lower. Will assist > >freight pick up , no shipping from this end. Personal pick up is fine and >I > >will help you load up. > > > >Wing towing braces $ 55.00 > > > >Electric elevator trim servo, dont really know but figure on 75 percent > >of replacement. > > > >Wheel pants left side only $50.00 > > > >Rudder best offer > > > >Elevator best offer > > > >Control rigging and pulleys best offer > > > >Wheels (2) > > > >Brakes (2) with new pads included > > > >Master cylinders (2) 1 SET SOLD > > > >Fuel control valve by Andair replaced stock unit $180 list $240 > > > >Wing tip light set for fiberglass model 5 tip maybe others, with all wire > >,breakers, switches, clear lenses, dual element lamp assemblies and > >instruction, never installed. 300.00 > > > >Wing strut farings set of four, never installed 50.00 > > > >Left or right flapperon 300 each both for 500.00 > >Right wing, minor damage will provide photos on request, with extended > >fiberglass tip 1,500 > > > >Left wing major damage , tip all but destroyed 500.00 > > > >Faired left or right lift strut 350 each both 600.00 OBO > > > >Airframe with quite a few bends but with the right persons could be put > >back right again, not for the novice or faint of heart. Airframe will > >require recertification and new N-Number. No nose gear. Grove gear >included > >but will require reworking. Deregistered. Will include wings, > >flapperons,lift struts,elevators, rudder and rigging if not previously > >sold. > >First 5,000. takes her. Call for details if interested. Email for home > >number. Add 500 for wheels,brakes,tires. > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:43:07 AM PST US
    From: "Rich Williamson" <rwill1@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: The List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're
    Listed! --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rich Williamson" <rwill1@adelphia.net> and or guilting others to contribute...?? lol... just joking mine is coming ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: The List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> > > Hi Listers, > > The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On > December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a > Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly > thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the > Lists. > > Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of > Contributors? As a number of people have pointed out, the List seems > at least, if not a whole lot more, as valuable as a > building/flying/recreating tool as a typical your magazine > subscription. We won't even talk about a newsstand price... :-) > > Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming > LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a > Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa or > M/C on the SSL Secure Web Site: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > or by popping a personal check in the mail to: > > Matronics Email Lists > c/o Matt Dralle > PO Box 347 > Livermore CA 94551-0347 > > I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a > Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that > its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't > forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped > you! I love to feel the love... :-) > > Best regards, > > Matt Dralle > Email List Administrator > > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft > do not archive > > >


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    Time: 01:38:17 PM PST US
    From: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
    Subject: M4/1200 Speedster Fule system
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com> Hi everyone, Because of the problems with fuel flow from the wing tanks to the header tank under some conditions, I was thinking an electric aux fuel pump might help. Any thoughts on this would be a help as I will soon be ready to cover and would like to make any changes before then, Thanks Don. PS. I have 2 fiberglass 13 gal wing tanks in the kit I am building (Manufactured Mid 1992) and I don't have a lot of faith in them, anything I can or should do ??? Thanks again.


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    Time: 01:50:15 PM PST US
    From: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
    Subject: M4/1200 Speedster Fule system
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net> If I were at that point I would have some nice aluminum tanks built, mount so there is allowance for wing flex. Or have them made from a poly product. Just what I would do. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Donald STEVENSON Subject: Kitfox-List: M4/1200 Speedster Fule system --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com> Hi everyone, Because of the problems with fuel flow from the wing tanks to the header tank under some conditions, I was thinking an electric aux fuel pump might help. Any thoughts on this would be a help as I will soon be ready to cover and would like to make any changes before then, Thanks Don. PS. I have 2 fiberglass 13 gal wing tanks in the kit I am building (Manufactured Mid 1992) and I don't have a lot of faith in them, anything I can or should do ??? Thanks again.


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    Time: 02:08:45 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: Frappr Map
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> On Nov 26, 2005, at 6:32 PM, Ben Baltrusaitis wrote: > We need 11 more members to get to 100 on the Kitfox Frappr Map. > Ben, I think I have messed up things on Frappr. I have a photo, I have a membership with my homeplace on the map. But the photo doesn't have the "map it" text under. Something went wrong. Could you fix it or tell me how to, by private email. TIA. Meanwhile, I'll try to get the Scandinavian Kitfoxers to list themselves in Frappr. http://www.scandinavian-kitfoxes.se/index.htm Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 02:24:55 PM PST US
    From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
    Subject: Re: Frappr Map
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> This is really a nice web site. I enjoy seeing where everyone is located. I just added mine along with a non-standard kitfox picture. Cliff Hey Kitfox Pilots, We need 11 more members to get to 100 on the Kitfox Frappr Map. http://www.frappr.com/kitfox If you haven't yet done so, please locate yourself and post a picture of your steed. I know of 3 more in PA who are not on the map and I'm sure some of you know people, too. Please pass the word and the link (the link is not searchable on the Frappr site). The Lancair guys have 180. We should be able to beat that because we don't lose 3-10 planes & pilots each year. :>) Also, you are not limited to one picture. Please feel free to post other pictures of your plane that you are proud of. Ben DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 02:51:18 PM PST US
    From: "David Dawe" <davedawe@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Frappr Map
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Dawe" <davedawe@msn.com> Hello Cliff I am located in Canada, having problems signing in. Kitfox ll 321 Dave >From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Frappr Map >Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:24:11 -0700 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" ><shoeless@barefootpilot.com> > >This is really a nice web site. I enjoy seeing where everyone is located. I >just added mine along with a non-standard kitfox picture. >Cliff > >Hey Kitfox Pilots, >We need 11 more members to get to 100 on the Kitfox Frappr Map. > >http://www.frappr.com/kitfox > >If you haven't yet done so, please locate yourself and post a picture of >your steed. I know of 3 more in PA who are not on the map and I'm sure some >of you know people, too. Please pass the word and the link (the link is not >searchable on the Frappr site). The Lancair guys have 180. We should be >able >to beat that because we don't lose 3-10 planes & pilots each year. :>) >Also, you are not limited to one picture. Please feel free to post other >pictures of your plane that you are proud of. >Ben >DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 03:52:12 PM PST US
    From: AMuller589@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Frappr Map
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com I have tried four times to put Robert Harms's on but doesn't want to take it. can you manually enter him. I will try to get a smaller picture but for now this will have to do. Kitfox Series V, with 2.2 liter Subaru engine and 68 inch IVO prop. Can cruise at redline of 140 mph on 7 gph of auto gas. Flying out of T-41 (LaPorte, TX). Robert is not on internet so contact him via _amuller589@aol.com_ (mailto:amuller589@aol.com)


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    Time: 04:36:02 PM PST US
    From: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Frappr Map
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com> -Hi Cliff, I too am in Canada, and after many tries to sign in I gave up. I'm also using a Mac. and I can't even see the map. Hope we can overcome the problems Regards, Don, Caledon, Ontario. Canada -- David Dawe <davedawe@msn.com> wro > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Dawe" > <davedawe@msn.com> > > Hello Cliff > > I am located in Canada, having problems signing in. > > Kitfox ll > > 321 > > Dave > > >From: "Clifford Begnaud" > <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> > >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Frappr Map > >Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:24:11 -0700 > > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford > Begnaud" > ><shoeless@barefootpilot.com> > > > >This is really a nice web site. I enjoy seeing > where everyone is located. I > >just added mine along with a non-standard kitfox > picture. > >Cliff > > > >Hey Kitfox Pilots, > >We need 11 more members to get to 100 on the Kitfox > Frappr Map. > > > >http://www.frappr.com/kitfox > > > >If you haven't yet done so, please locate yourself > and post a picture of > >your steed. I know of 3 more in PA who are not on > the map and I'm sure some > >of you know people, too. Please pass the word and > the link (the link is not > >searchable on the Frappr site). The Lancair guys > have 180. We should be > >able > >to beat that because we don't lose 3-10 planes & > pilots each year. :>) > >Also, you are not limited to one picture. Please > feel free to post other > >pictures of your plane that you are proud of. > >Ben > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > > > Click on > about > provided > www.buildersbooks.com, > Admin. > _-> > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:42:53 PM PST US
    From: Aerobatics@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Frappr Mapjust added tonite cool site
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com


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    Time: 04:44:41 PM PST US
    From: Aerobatics@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Frappr Map
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com In a message dated 11/26/2005 6:37:42 PM Central Standard Time, shericom@rogers.com writes: -Hi Cliff, I too am in Canada, and after many tries to sign in I gave up. I'm also using a Mac. and I can't even see the map. Hope we can overcome the problems Regards, Don, Caledon, Ontario. Canada I I am originally from Canada where is Caledon? Dave


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    Time: 04:50:43 PM PST US
    From: Gerald Jantzi <gvjantzi@yahoo.com>
    Subject: inter-rib bracing
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gerald Jantzi <gvjantzi@yahoo.com> can some body tell me does kitfox require inter-rib bracing? I am building older model kit fox 5 also very new at this help will be much appreciated thanks gvjantzi ---------------------------------


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    Time: 05:01:00 PM PST US
    From: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Frappr Map
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com> -Hi Dave, Caledon is just outside my window, I checked and it's still there, Just kidding, I,m about an hour N/W of Toronto, 3 miles from the Brampton Flying Club. Don -- Aerobatics@aol.com wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: > Aerobatics@aol.com > > > In a message dated 11/26/2005 6:37:42 PM Central > Standard Time, > shericom@rogers.com writes: > > -Hi Cliff, I too am in Canada, and after many tries > to > sign in I gave up. I'm also using a Mac. and I > can't > even see the map. Hope we can overcome the problems > Regards, Don, Caledon, Ontario. Canada > > > I I am originally from Canada where is Caledon? > > Dave > > > > Click on > about > provided > www.buildersbooks.com, > Admin. > _-> > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:24:14 PM PST US
    From: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: M4/1200 Speedster Fule system
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net> Don, Glenn Horne here. I have two 13 gal. tanks in my model II. That were 1990 tanks. Built the aircraft but didn't do anything to the tanks. After all finish one (the left) leaked. I slosh the tank(after cleaning it good) with some tank sloshing compound from a company called Caswell Inc. It did the job. If yours are not installed now is the time to slosh them. The company web sit is www.caswellplating.com. On the first page click on the tab that says (repair products) There you will see epoxy gas tank sealer. Hope this helps. Glenn Horne Model II 582 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald STEVENSON" <shericom@rogers.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: M4/1200 Speedster Fule system > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com> > > Hi everyone, Because of the problems with fuel flow > from the wing tanks to the header tank under some > conditions, I was thinking an electric aux fuel pump > might help. Any thoughts on this would be a help as I > will soon be ready to cover and would like to make any > changes before then, Thanks Don. > > PS. I have 2 fiberglass 13 gal wing tanks in the kit I > am building (Manufactured Mid 1992) and I don't have a > lot of faith in them, anything I can or should do ??? > Thanks again. > > >


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    Time: 06:25:33 PM PST US
    From: Aerobatics@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Frappr Map
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com sure I know Brampton! I have a sister in Newmarket... friends in Guelph, London ...... My business is radio control models here in central Il _www.davepatrickmodels.com_ (http://www.davepatrickmodels.com) nice to meet ya Dave


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    Time: 06:55:41 PM PST US
    From: Tc9008@aol.com
    Subject: Kitfox IV seat
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tc9008@aol.com The fiberglass seat has a crack in the center. Is there any support braces I can use or support straps? Travis


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    Time: 07:49:16 PM PST US
    From: "Tim Vader" <vadert@telusplanet.net>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox IV seat
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tim Vader" <vadert@telusplanet.net> Travis Blue Sky Aviation sells a seat sling kit for 35 bucks or you can make one yourself like I did from nylon straps bought at a surplus store. I pop riveted them in place stretching from the lower tube that the seat lip sits on to the upper tube that the seat lip sits on. It's a good idea to have these regardless of a crack. There was talk of a guy losing control of the aircraft after a hard landing where the seat broke and the weight of the pilot and passenger was on the controls preventing them from moving. Tim Vader ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tc9008@aol.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV seat > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tc9008@aol.com > > The fiberglass seat has a crack in the center. Is there any support > braces I > can use or support straps? > Travis > > >


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    Time: 09:14:32 PM PST US
    From: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
    Subject: inter-rib bracing
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net> Well, depends on who you talk to. Some say a waste of time not needed. Others wont fly without it. I don't think it ever was a requirement. Mine was not and no problem after 600 hours. I would recommend you make sure the fabric is well attach to the wing tanks though. Second though I would make a thin aluminum or composite removable closure over the wing tank area. Just what I would do if I were at you junction. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gerald Jantzi Subject: Kitfox-List: inter-rib bracing --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gerald Jantzi <gvjantzi@yahoo.com> can some body tell me does kitfox require inter-rib bracing? I am building older model kit fox 5 also very new at this help will be much appreciated thanks gvjantzi ---------------------------------


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    Time: 11:55:28 PM PST US
    From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
    Subject: trailer suspension
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> Hi Guys, Im considering having a trailer make for my fox and have referenced the plans and photos on sports flight however no one mentions the type of suspension they are using. This must be a fairly critical issue to consider due to loadings that the aircraft would experience on rough surfaces. I felt that a single axle with one leaf spring would be softer riding but I see some people are using dual axles. Can I have some comments from those that have experience with this issue. Thanks Guys. PS Think the frappr idea is great. Nice to know where you all are and what your aircraft look like even if it is mostly 12000 miles away. Cheers. Graeme Toft




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