Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:19 AM - Re: M4/1200 Speedster Fule system (Bradley M Webb)
2. 07:21 AM - Re: Indicated Airspeed Differential Pressure (Lowell Fitt)
3. 08:13 AM - Re: Hydraulic Lock (Randy Daughenbaugh)
4. 08:44 AM - Static source location (Gary Olson)
5. 09:15 AM - Re: Static source location (AMuller589@aol.com)
6. 10:27 AM - Re: Static source location (Gary Olson)
7. 10:46 AM - HomeBuiltHelp Videos (Grant Fluent)
8. 11:32 AM - Re: Static source location (AMuller589@aol.com)
9. 11:34 AM - Re: HomeBuiltHelp Videos (clemwehner)
10. 03:35 PM - Lowell Re: Indicated Airspeed Differential (Harris, Robert)
11. 03:54 PM - OFF TOPIC - Cool Aviation Videos (kitfoxjunky)
12. 05:55 PM - Re: Static source location (James Shumaker)
13. 06:23 PM - Re: Flaperon Construction (Guy Buchanan)
14. 07:39 PM - Re: Indicated Airspeed Differential Pressure (Colin Durey)
15. 11:50 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com)
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| Subject: | M4/1200 Speedster Fule system |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
I second that. Don't forget the KISS principle.
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: M4/1200 Speedster Fule system
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 08:46 PM 11/29/2005, you wrote:
...
>But with as many as eight airplanes in loose formation, we
>probably have a combined total of well over 1000 hours flying together from
>the California to the Canadian border above Idaho, to Oshkosh, to the
>Arizona fly-in and we have had no Kitfox design issues - not a one - and
>most of the guys built according to the plans. No special glues, no
braided
>hose, no aux fuel pumps (except me). This isn't to say that a lot of this
>stuff is wrong or bad, it's just that most if it is really not necessary -
>by experience. (again my opinion)
>
>Lowell
Lowell, you have won the award for the best post in a long time.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Indicated Airspeed Differential Pressure |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Cy,
I made the water manometer and checked mine out several years ago. I found
a formula on the web and made up a spreadsheet - Quatro Pro.
Since we can't send attachments on the list, i will send one direct and to
anyone else that might want one.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: <cygan@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Indicated Airspeed Differential Pressure
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: cygan@optusnet.com.au
>
>
> G'Day from Australia,
>
> Does anyone have a differential pressure graph to check an ASI?
>
> Thanx.
>
> cy
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Jeff,
I think you are getting good advice. I just want to address the numbers of
revolutions needed to push the oil from crankcase to the oil tank.
I find it depends upon the ambient temperature. In cold weather it takes me
about 28 blades (3 blade prop) to get the oil back to the tank. In warm
weather it takes only 6 or 7 blades. I think this is due to less blow-by at
lower temperatures.
Take the lid off the oil tank. You will hear impolite noises when you have
all the oil in the tank and the air pushes through the oil.
Randy Series 5/7 912S
.
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Shumaker
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hydraulic Lock
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker
<jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Hi Jeff
Rick had correct answers to your questions. As far as how many times the
prop must be pullled through is dependent on how much air leaks out of the
cylinders and into the crankcase. The pressure in the crankcase then pushes
the oil out of the rear oil outlet into the oil tank. There the oil is
seperated from the air and the low tube in oil tank the sucks the oil out of
the tank, through the oil cooler (or oil cooler bypass) through the oil
filter and into the oil pump. Then through the galleys and back into the
crankcase where it all starts over.
Jim Shumaker
Jeffrey Puls <pulsair@mindspring.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls"
I went out to the airport to fly the Fox. It has been a while so I cycled
the prop by hand. On the third revolution the prop locked. I removed the
number four lower plug and oil came out. I changed my oil on the annual and
followed the precise instructions in the maintenance manual on page 27
(12-00-00). I vented the lubrication by precisely following the instructions
on page 28 (12-00-00). On page 26 (12-00-00) it discusses checking the oil
and it states in part, "Before checking the oil make sure that there is no
oil in the crankcase. Prior to oil level check turn the propeller several
times by hand to transfer all the oil from the engine to the oil tank."
If turning the prop is suppose to remove oil from the crankcase how can oil
be coming from the spark plug hole. I am confused. Does anyone have any idea
what is going on? I have 240 hours TT on the engine. Could I have an oil
hose routed wrong? Did I wait too long between flights to start the engine?
How many revolutions does it take to suck the oil out? Have I damaged the
engine? Thanks, Jeff Classic IV 912UL
Jeffrey Puls
pulsair@mindspring.com
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| Subject: | Static source location |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
I have heard from a couple of different people that they have had a problem getting
accurate readings from their instruments because of the location of the static
port. Is there anything wrong with taking the static pressures from within
the cockpit?
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: Static source location |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com
we suspected static port problems when our IAS was 6 mph higher than true
and we tried it inside the cockpit. it read about 20 feet high. the way you can
tell if your static port is in an area of pressure differential is to
observe the altimeter during take off roll and immediately after t.o.but before
climbing more than a few feet. if your altimeter shows a climb in the roll,
rotation, or initial climb attitude it is not in the correct location. On our
Kitfox V and a friends IV, a good position is halfway between the lower
fuselage and the bottom of the window next to the pilot and copilot butts.
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| Subject: | Re: Static source location |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
I am building the S7, and according to the manual, they state that the proper place
is 24" forward of the leading edge of the horizontal stab. and 2 1/2" up
from the bottom fuselage tube. I am kind of concerned that this may be affected
by the slipstream, and that is what I have heard others say.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com
we suspected static port problems when our IAS was 6 mph higher than true
and we tried it inside the cockpit. it read about 20 feet high. the way you can
tell if your static port is in an area of pressure differential is to
observe the altimeter during take off roll and immediately after t.o.but before
climbing more than a few feet. if your altimeter shows a climb in the roll,
rotation, or initial climb attitude it is not in the correct location. On our
Kitfox V and a friends IV, a good position is halfway between the lower
fuselage and the bottom of the window next to the pilot and copilot butts.
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| Subject: | HomeBuiltHelp Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Hello All,
A while back, there was talk about the Rotax 912
installation video from HomebuiltHelp. Has anyone seen
the electrical wiring video from them? If so, is it
worth purchasing? I have emailed them inquiring about
it but have not been able to get a response.
Thanks!
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
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| Subject: | Re: Static source location |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com
I would certainly use their recommendation then check it during testing by
observing the behavior of the altimeter. It isn't that much trouble to move it
and all you need to do is disconnect the altimeter to test for inside
accuracy.
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| Subject: | HomeBuiltHelp Videos |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net>
Grant,
I have their electrical wiring video and I think it is pretty good. I am
an electronics type (Ham) so wiring stuff is very familiar to me. I did
learn some things from the video and think it is worth the price. It is
not fancy pro-level production but they do a good job on it and get the
information across.
Clem
Lawton, OK
KF-IV, 912 still under construction
You Wrote: Has anyone seen
the electrical wiring video from them? If so, is it
worth purchasing?
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
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Pressure
| Subject: | Indicated Airspeed Differential |
Pressure
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Hi Lowell,
Would you please e-mail the spreadsheet you made?
Thanks Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Indicated Airspeed Differential Pressure
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Cy,
I made the water manometer and checked mine out several years ago. I found
a formula on the web and made up a spreadsheet - Quatro Pro.
Since we can't send attachments on the list, i will send one direct and to
anyone else that might want one.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: <cygan@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Indicated Airspeed Differential Pressure
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: cygan@optusnet.com.au
>
>
> G'Day from Australia,
>
> Does anyone have a differential pressure graph to check an ASI?
>
> Thanx.
>
> cy
>
>
>
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| Subject: | OFF TOPIC - Cool Aviation Videos |
Serialize complete at 12/01/2005 06:52:28 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Hi Guys
I know many homebuilders got the bug with radio control planes. Not sure
how many monitor the hobby still..but the effort put forth is getting so
close to what it takes to create a kit airplane. Check these out....
http://video.helifreak.com/tmp/06261831a52a0d1ecc92dffc909eb037/B2911062004.wmv
Make sure you watch the last few frames of the above B29 footage.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/billhempelwildonetwo.cfm
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/billhempelwildtwo.cfm
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/billhempelwildonethree.cfm
Gary Walsh
KF IV Anphib 912S
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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| Subject: | Re: Static source location |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Yes there is a problem taking the static pressure from within the cockpit. It
is inconsistant, unreliable and inacurate. The static port location as tested
by the factory is very good.
Jim Shumaker
Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson
I have heard from a couple of different people that they have had a problem getting
accurate readings from their instruments because of the location of the static
port. Is there anything wrong with taking the static pressures from within
the cockpit?
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperon Construction |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 09:00 PM 11/30/2005, you wrote:
>So, I did not notice that there was any excessive loads on the flaperon
>bearings.
Thanks Eric.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Indicated Airspeed Differential Pressure |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey" <colin@ptclhk.com>
Hi Lowell,
I'd apreciate a copy of the data and any info on the test setup you used.
I'm a couple of months away from needing it, but it would be good to have
it ready for when I do.
regards
Colin Durey
Sydney.
v> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Cy,
>
> I made the water manometer and checked mine out several years ago. I
> found
> a formula on the web and made up a spreadsheet - Quatro Pro.
>
> Since we can't send attachments on the list, i will send one direct and
> to
> anyone else that might want one.
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cygan@optusnet.com.au>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Indicated Airspeed Differential Pressure
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: cygan@optusnet.com.au
>>
>>
>> G'Day from Australia,
>>
>> Does anyone have a differential pressure graph to check an ASI?
>>
>> Thanx.
>>
>> cy
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
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