Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:26 AM - Re: CO2 Exposure (Fox5flyer)
2. 06:43 AM - CO exposure WAS: CO2 Exposure (Michel Verheughe)
3. 08:12 AM - Re: CO Exposure (Paul Wilson)
4. 10:08 AM - Low fuel alarm for header tank (Donald STEVENSON)
5. 10:58 AM - 7 door latches (cirrus10)
6. 12:30 PM - Re: Low fuel alarm for header tank (Marco Menezes)
7. 01:16 PM - Re: Low fuel alarm for header tank (Lou Landucci)
8. 01:17 PM - Engine Mounts (Lou Landucci)
9. 03:13 PM - Re: Engine Mounts (jdmcbean)
10. 03:39 PM - Rudder Adjustment lever attach points (D& D Syverson)
11. 04:09 PM - Re: Low fuel alarm for header tank (Richard Chandler)
12. 05:37 PM - Re: Engine Mounts (Brian Leach)
13. 06:45 PM - Re: Low fuel alarm for header tank (Alan & Linda Daniels)
14. 07:11 PM - Re: CO2 Exposure (John King)
15. 07:59 PM - Re: Low fuel alarm for header tank (flier)
16. 08:10 PM - 2005 List of Contributors (Update)... (Matt Dralle)
17. 09:56 PM - Re: Low fuel alarm for header tank (Mo)
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| Subject: | Re: CO2 Exposure |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Thanks for the good explanation John. I've heard that very small amounts of
CO over a long period of time can be cumulative, such as a very small leak
in a furnace heat exchanger or exhaust manifold. I was told that it can
continue to accumulate and reach a threshold where it suddenly can create
incapacitation. Is this true or does the fresh air received when not
exposed tend to clear the blood of the CO content. For example, a very
small leak in an airplane exhaust heater when the airplane is only flown
once or twice a week for an hour or so each time. Could this be a problem?
What are typical symptoms of mild CO poisoning?
Deke
> You are a very lucky person after that carbon monoxide (CO) exposure. Red
> blood cell hemoglobin and tissue cell cytochromes have a greater affinity
> (binding power) for CO than oxygen, so the CO not only blocks any oxygen
from the
> cells it also prevents the cell oxygen carrier (hemoglobin) and the
tissue
> cell metabolism from working. All this adds up to CO even in small
> concentrations selectively poisoning your cells. It takes high oxygen
concentrations to
> slowly reverse the effects of CO.
>
> Glad you got out of that garage in time and were taken care of quickly.
>
> John Greaves, M.D.
> VariEze N81JG
> Redding, CA
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| Subject: | CO exposure WAS: CO2 Exposure |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Fox5flyer [morid@northland.lib.mi.us]
> I've heard that very small amounts of
> CO over a long period of time can be cumulative
I am also looking forward to that answer from John, Deke, because, from what I
understand, my detector will change colour when a) a large amount of CO escapes
or b) a small amount over a long time.
The latter could be dangerous as I also understand that the main problem with CO
is that it takes such a long time to get out of your body.
In any case, with a Kitfox, if I get a headache, or any other sign that I am in
trouble, I would open both doors and seek the closest landing place with them
open - something that can't be done with many aircraft.
Cheers,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul Wilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
A smart thing I did was put a CO detector in my garage. There have been
times when a test start was required with the door closed due to bad
weather. The alarm (Nighthawk) went off on the third restart and I just
left and came back when the weather got reasonable and aired out the
building. The alarm goes off at a part per million that is still safe and
it has a readout to tell me what the level is. It would be a wise addition
to a hanger as well because one can never tell when a breeze would cause CO
from an engine warm up to fill the hanger.
Never heard of a CO2 detector. Maybe I just have not paid attention.
BTW, The Nighthawk has a 9v backup battery and could be used in your plane
is the airplane installed one is suspect. Like if you have symptoms and it
indicated no CO. The direct readout would give some degree of comfort. Its
to darn heavy to leave in the plane for long as its designed for household use.
Paul
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| Subject: | Low fuel alarm for header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
Can anyone give me information on some kind of alarm
to indicate low fuel in an alum. header tank. I have
been told that this is available, but have not been
able to find anything on it, Thanks, Don
Stevenson,Ontario Canada, M4/1200/912
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "cirrus10" <cirrus10@qwest.net>
Does anyone have access to the double pin door latches used on the later 7's?
Thanks,
Ed
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| Subject: | Re: Low fuel alarm for header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Hi Don. ACS has 2 varieties, optical and mechanical. Since your tank is opaque,
either type should work but the mechanical one (float-type) is less expensive.
I wired mine up with a orange, panel mounted LED I got at AutoZone. It's easy.
Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON
Can anyone give me information on some kind of alarm
to indicate low fuel in an alum. header tank. I have
been told that this is available, but have not been
able to find anything on it, Thanks, Don
Stevenson,Ontario Canada, M4/1200/912
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Low fuel alarm for header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lou Landucci" <lou@rkraney.com>
My name is Lou Landucci and I have a Kitfox Classic IV Speedster
with a 912S-UL (100HP) Rotax engine. I need new motor mounts and have no
idea where to get them. Any suggestions? I was able to remove the old
ones, which were compromised by a small oil leak.
I need the (4) engine mount rubber donut washer assemblies. Each
mount consists of two large rubber donut washers, one small rubber donut
washer and a metal spacer. I can reuse the metal spacers (these were the
updated ones that Skystar put out a while back), but all of the rubber will
get replaced. Can you direct me to a source or a direct replacement as
Skystar is no more? They were skystar items; the skystar part numbers are
as follows:
(8) 44023.000 Rubber washer 2.35" D912INSTL
(4) 44024.000 Rubber washer 1.44D R912dvxn
I appreciate any help from you or anyone on the group.
Regards,
Also, the small peg, which protrudes off of the upper right engine
mount, which is used to secure the CDI box broke off. I am taking the
engine mount off of the plane to get that welded. My question is; do I have
to strip all of the powder coating off and have the engine mount analyzed
for additional cracks? Any advice?
Lou Landucci
713 206 9991
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marco Menezes
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm for header tank
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Hi Don. ACS has 2 varieties, optical and mechanical. Since your tank is
opaque, either type should work but the mechanical one (float-type) is less
expensive. I wired mine up with a orange, panel mounted LED I got at
AutoZone. It's easy.
Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON
Can anyone give me information on some kind of alarm
to indicate low fuel in an alum. header tank. I have
been told that this is available, but have not been
able to find anything on it, Thanks, Don
Stevenson,Ontario Canada, M4/1200/912
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lou Landucci" <lou@rkraney.com>
My name is Lou Landucci and I have a Kitfox Classic IV Speedster with a
912S-UL (100HP) Rotax engine. I need new motor mounts and have no idea
where to get them. Any suggestions? I was able to remove the old ones,
which were compromised by a small oil leak.
I need the (4) engine mount rubber donut washer assemblies. Each
mount consists of two large rubber donut washers, one small rubber donut
washer and a metal spacer. I can reuse the metal spacers (these were the
updated ones that Skystar put out a while back), but all of the rubber will
get replaced. Can you direct me to a source or a direct replacement as
Skystar is no more? They were skystar items; the skystar part numbers are
as follows:
(8) 44023.000 Rubber washer 2.35" D912INSTL
(4) 44024.000 Rubber washer 1.44D R912dvxn
I appreciate any help from you or anyone on the group.
Regards,
Also, the small peg, which protrudes off of the upper right engine
mount, which is used to secure the CDI box broke off. I am taking the
engine mount off of the plane to get that welded. My question is; do I have
to strip all of the powder coating off and have the engine mount analyzed
for additional cracks? Any advice?
Lou Landucci
713 206 9991
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
We are working on getting these.. Should know more shortly.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lou Landucci
Subject: Kitfox-List: Engine Mounts
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lou Landucci" <lou@rkraney.com>
My name is Lou Landucci and I have a Kitfox Classic IV Speedster with a
912S-UL (100HP) Rotax engine. I need new motor mounts and have no idea
where to get them. Any suggestions? I was able to remove the old ones,
which were compromised by a small oil leak.
I need the (4) engine mount rubber donut washer assemblies. Each
mount consists of two large rubber donut washers, one small rubber donut
washer and a metal spacer. I can reuse the metal spacers (these were the
updated ones that Skystar put out a while back), but all of the rubber will
get replaced. Can you direct me to a source or a direct replacement as
Skystar is no more? They were skystar items; the skystar part numbers are
as follows:
(8) 44023.000 Rubber washer 2.35" D912INSTL
(4) 44024.000 Rubber washer 1.44D R912dvxn
I appreciate any help from you or anyone on the group.
Regards,
Also, the small peg, which protrudes off of the upper right engine
mount, which is used to secure the CDI box broke off. I am taking the
engine mount off of the plane to get that welded. My question is; do I have
to strip all of the powder coating off and have the engine mount analyzed
for additional cracks? Any advice?
Lou Landucci
713 206 9991
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| Subject: | Rudder Adjustment lever attach points |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
Good afternoon,
I felt I should share this information in case someone else may have a similar
situation. I ordered the adjustable rudder pedal option for my model 7. I
also skipped the powder coating since I wanted to be real sure that I could
inspect the welds.
Here is what happened. The fuselage has two U shaped brackets welded to the
fuselage tubes for attaching the rudder adjustment levers. One of them
cracked off at the bend with less than 5 pounds of pressure. There appears to
be two problems which caused this. 1) The bends appeared to be rather sharp,
with very little radius so the metal was cracked with less than 20% of the
thickness remaining. 2) The welding had eroded a significant amount of the
metal on the outside angle of the bend. At any rate, I thought about how
exciting this might be on a first flight (or any subsequent flight) if it
were not discovered. The obvious fix was to check both sides of both brackets
and re-weld the brackets. Better to get it resolved before the fabric is on!
I am not sure if all kitfoxes are built with the U-shaped brackets for the
rudder adjustment pivot points. I may have the only kit with this problem,
but I don't know. I shared this with Skystar's MGMT, but I never saw any
service reports issued. I felt I needed to share this with other builders in
case it might be a problem for others.
Sincerely,
Dave
St Paul, MN
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| Subject: | Low fuel alarm for header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Chandler" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
Don,
I have the optical one supplied by Skystar, with panel light and test
button. Make me a reasonable offer off line and its yours. Things have
been a little crazy so may not be able to get it right out. Still trying
to get out to the airport for another fellow.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marco
Menezes
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm for header tank
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Hi Don. ACS has 2 varieties, optical and mechanical. Since your tank is
opaque, either type should work but the mechanical one (float-type) is
less expensive. I wired mine up with a orange, panel mounted LED I got
at AutoZone. It's easy.
Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON
Can anyone give me information on some kind of alarm
to indicate low fuel in an alum. header tank. I have
been told that this is available, but have not been
able to find anything on it, Thanks, Don
Stevenson,Ontario Canada, M4/1200/912
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Mounts |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brian Leach" <leach@infogen.net.nz>
Steve Winder at Airdale has them in stock.
Brian Leach
New Zealand.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lou Landucci <lou@rkraney.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Engine Mounts
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lou Landucci" <lou@rkraney.com>
>
> My name is Lou Landucci and I have a Kitfox Classic IV Speedster with a
> 912S-UL (100HP) Rotax engine. I need new motor mounts and have no idea
> where to get them. Any suggestions? I was able to remove the old ones,
> which were compromised by a small oil leak.
> I need the (4) engine mount rubber donut washer assemblies. Each
> mount consists of two large rubber donut washers, one small rubber donut
> washer and a metal spacer. I can reuse the metal spacers (these were the
> updated ones that Skystar put out a while back), but all of the rubber
will
> get replaced. Can you direct me to a source or a direct replacement as
> Skystar is no more? They were skystar items; the skystar part numbers are
> as follows:
>
> (8) 44023.000 Rubber washer 2.35" D912INSTL
> (4) 44024.000 Rubber washer 1.44D R912dvxn
>
> I appreciate any help from you or anyone on the group.
> Regards,
> Also, the small peg, which protrudes off of the upper right engine
> mount, which is used to secure the CDI box broke off. I am taking the
> engine mount off of the plane to get that welded. My question is; do I
have
> to strip all of the powder coating off and have the engine mount analyzed
> for additional cracks? Any advice?
>
>
> Lou Landucci
> 713 206 9991
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Low fuel alarm for header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
There is also a float type that works also, and is inexpensive. This was
discussed before and someone or the archives have the part numbers and
where to order. I can hunt it up for you if you need.
Alan
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CO2 Exposure |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
Deke,
I don't know about a mild case of CO2 poisoning, but the doctor told me
in my case that the headache was the first symptom.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Fox5flyer wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
>
>What are typical symptoms of mild CO poisoning?
>Deke
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Low fuel alarm for header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
Float switch from Compac Engineering at (916) 872-2042. It's part number
15-650-AC and it runs ~$35.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard
Chandler
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm for header tank
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Chandler"
<wingsdown@comcast.net>
Don,
I have the optical one supplied by Skystar, with panel light and test
button. Make me a reasonable offer off line and its yours. Things have
been a little crazy so may not be able to get it right out. Still trying
to get out to the airport for another fellow.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marco
Menezes
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm for header tank
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Hi Don. ACS has 2 varieties, optical and mechanical. Since your tank is
opaque, either type should work but the mechanical one (float-type) is
less expensive. I wired mine up with a orange, panel mounted LED I got
at AutoZone. It's easy.
Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON
Can anyone give me information on some kind of alarm
to indicate low fuel in an alum. header tank. I have
been told that this is available, but have not been
able to find anything on it, Thanks, Don
Stevenson,Ontario Canada, M4/1200/912
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | 2005 List of Contributors (Update)... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
There seemed to a number of members that were having a problem viewing the List
of Contributors this year, particularly for those using some versions of Outlook
and some web-based email clients. Just to make sure that everyone is properly
acknowledged for their generous support of the Lists this year, I have made
a simple web page with the current contributees as of 12/06/05. This can viewed
here:
http://www.matronics.com/ListOfContributors2005.html
Thank you to everyone that made a contribution this year. The Contribution web
site with all of this year's great gifts is still open for those of you that
would like to show your last minute support!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thanks again to everyone that supported the Lists this year!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email Lists Administrator
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| Subject: | Re: Low fuel alarm for header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mo" <mo44d@comcast.net>
Murle Williams sells a 1.9 gallon aluminum header tank with a built in low
fuel alarm for $225.00.
http://sonoragraphics.com/williamsaviation/headertank.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald STEVENSON" <shericom@rogers.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm for header tank
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
>
> Can anyone give me information on some kind of alarm
> to indicate low fuel in an alum. header tank. I have
> been told that this is available, but have not been
> able to find anything on it, Thanks, Don
> Stevenson,Ontario Canada, M4/1200/912
>
>
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