Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Wed 12/07/05


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:44 AM - Re: 2005 List of Contributors (Update)... (Jim Burke)
     2. 07:19 AM - Re: Engine Mounts (Lou Landucci)
     3. 07:41 AM - Francesco's Safari (Fox5flyer)
     4. 07:53 AM - Re: Francesco's Safari (Don Pearsall)
     5. 08:57 AM - Re: Low fuel alarm for header tank (Michael Gibbs)
     6. 09:30 AM - Re: Francesco's Safari (Jose M. Toro)
     7. 09:34 AM - Re: Francesco's Safari (Guy Buchanan)
     8. 10:36 AM - Re: Francesco's Safari (Fox5flyer)
     9. 10:36 AM - Re: Francesco's Safari (Alan & Linda Daniels)
    10. 01:14 PM - Re: Kitfox-Brazil flying (was List: 582 power and cowling) (kurt schrader)
    11. 04:55 PM - Re: Low fuel alarm for header tank (Rex & Jan Shaw)
    12. 06:40 PM - Re: Low fuel alarm for header tank (Donald STEVENSON)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:44:07 AM PST US
    From: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: 2005 List of Contributors (Update)...
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com> Recognition where recognition is do, Thanks Matt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: 2005 List of Contributors (Update)... > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> > > > Dear Listers, > > There seemed to a number of members that were having a problem viewing the > List of Contributors this year, particularly for those using some versions > of Outlook and some web-based email clients. Just to make sure that > everyone is properly acknowledged for their generous support of the Lists > this year, I have made a simple web page with the current contributees as > of 12/06/05. This can viewed here: > > http://www.matronics.com/ListOfContributors2005.html > > Thank you to everyone that made a contribution this year. The > Contribution web site with all of this year's great gifts is still open > for those of you that would like to show your last minute support! > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > Thanks again to everyone that supported the Lists this year! > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email Lists Administrator > > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft > do not archive > > >


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    Time: 07:19:46 AM PST US
    From: "Lou Landucci" <lou@rkraney.com>
    Subject: Engine Mounts
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lou Landucci" <lou@rkraney.com> Good morning Brian: I appreciate the information. Do you know how I would get in contact with Steve Winder? Where does he reside? Regards, Lou Landucci 713 206 9991 -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Engine Mounts --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brian Leach" <leach@infogen.net.nz> Steve Winder at Airdale has them in stock. Brian Leach New Zealand. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lou Landucci <lou@rkraney.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Engine Mounts > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lou Landucci" <lou@rkraney.com> > > My name is Lou Landucci and I have a Kitfox Classic IV Speedster with a > 912S-UL (100HP) Rotax engine. I need new motor mounts and have no idea > where to get them. Any suggestions? I was able to remove the old ones, > which were compromised by a small oil leak. > I need the (4) engine mount rubber donut washer assemblies. Each > mount consists of two large rubber donut washers, one small rubber donut > washer and a metal spacer. I can reuse the metal spacers (these were the > updated ones that Skystar put out a while back), but all of the rubber will > get replaced. Can you direct me to a source or a direct replacement as > Skystar is no more? They were skystar items; the skystar part numbers are > as follows: > > (8) 44023.000 Rubber washer 2.35" D912INSTL > (4) 44024.000 Rubber washer 1.44D R912dvxn > > I appreciate any help from you or anyone on the group. > Regards, > Also, the small peg, which protrudes off of the upper right engine > mount, which is used to secure the CDI box broke off. I am taking the > engine mount off of the plane to get that welded. My question is; do I have > to strip all of the powder coating off and have the engine mount analyzed > for additional cracks? Any advice? > > > Lou Landucci > 713 206 9991 > >


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    Time: 07:41:56 AM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Francesco's Safari
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> I was browsing Sportflight.com/uploads in the add-ons section and noticed that Francesco Frigerio had recently uploaded pics of his 914/Safari and his panel. I don't recall him letting us know that he'd done the upload or perhaps he's not on the List. Francesco obviously is concerned with attention to detail. Very impressive and worth the peek. Deke http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?actionmain&categoryAll


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    Time: 07:53:31 AM PST US
    From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
    Subject: Francesco's Safari
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net> Nice! Beautiful plane. $$ panel! Don Pearsall -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fox5flyer Subject: Kitfox-List: Francesco's Safari --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> I was browsing Sportflight.com/uploads in the add-ons section and noticed that Francesco Frigerio had recently uploaded pics of his 914/Safari and his panel. I don't recall him letting us know that he'd done the upload or perhaps he's not on the List. Francesco obviously is concerned with attention to detail. Very impressive and worth the peek. Deke http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?actionmain&categoryAll


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    Time: 08:57:36 AM PST US
    From: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Low fuel alarm for header tank
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net> >Can anyone give me information on some kind of alarm to indicate low >fuel in an alum. header tank. Murle Williams sells them: <http://MurleWilliamsAviation.com>. Mike G. N728KF


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    Time: 09:30:11 AM PST US
    From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Francesco's Safari
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> It's AWESOME! Would love to see pictures of the interiors and the engine compartment. Jose --- Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" > <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > I was browsing Sportflight.com/uploads in the > add-ons section and noticed that Francesco Frigerio > had recently uploaded pics of his 914/Safari and his > panel. I don't recall him letting us know that he'd > done the upload or perhaps he's not on the List. > Francesco obviously is concerned with attention to > detail. Very impressive and worth the peek. > Deke > > http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?actionmain&categoryAll > > > > Click on > about > provided > www.buildersbooks.com, > Admin. > _-> > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > > Jose M. Toro, P.E. Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200 "A slow flight in the Caribbean..." Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com


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    Time: 09:34:38 AM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: Francesco's Safari
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> At 07:41 AM 12/7/2005, you wrote: >I was browsing Sportflight.com/uploads in the add-ons section and noticed >that Francesco Frigerio had recently uploaded pics of his 914/Safari and >his panel. I don't recall him letting us know that he'd done the upload >or perhaps he's not on the List. Francesco obviously is concerned with >attention to detail. Very impressive and worth the peek. OK. I give up. Is that a mirror in the upper right section of the panel? Is it to check passenger reactions? Or is it just for attending to the passenger's "personal" needs? Does this thing really have an autopilot? Should I take my Kitfox and throw it in the trash and start over? Man, it's beautiful! Guy Buchanan K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. Do not archive


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    Time: 10:36:35 AM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Re: Francesco's Safari
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> It's probably a rear view mirror, much like a car. I have one (snowmobile part) attached to my front carry thru. Very handy for checking my six (never know when the Red Baron might be closing in), runway alignment, trim position of horiz stab, new zits, etc. Francesco, are you out there? If so, tell us about your airplane. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Buchanan" <bnn@nethere.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Francesco's Safari > At 07:41 AM 12/7/2005, you wrote: > >I was browsing Sportflight.com/uploads in the add-ons section and noticed > >that Francesco Frigerio had recently uploaded pics of his 914/Safari and > >his panel. I don't recall him letting us know that he'd done the upload > >or perhaps he's not on the List. Francesco obviously is concerned with > >attention to detail. Very impressive and worth the peek. > > OK. I give up. Is that a mirror in the upper right section of the panel? Is > it to check passenger reactions? Or is it just for attending to the > passenger's "personal" needs? Does this thing really have an autopilot? > Should I take my Kitfox and throw it in the trash and start over? Man, it's > beautiful! > > > Guy Buchanan > K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. > > Do not archive > >


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    Time: 10:36:46 AM PST US
    From: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
    Subject: Re: Francesco's Safari
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com> That is one nice looking plane. It has everything but a TCAS system ( that I could see ) -Mike D'Amico is still the only one I have see with that. It does appear, however, that he has his airspeed indicator marked incorrectly. There appears to be some real pride in workmanship in this plane. Don Pearsall wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net> > >Nice! Beautiful plane. $$ panel! > >Don Pearsall > > > >


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    Time: 01:14:24 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox-Brazil flying (was List: 582 power and cowling)
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Hi Bruce, I am in Campinis (CPN VOR or VCP airport) on the East side a little more than 1/2 way down. It is about an hour directly in from the coast, but further southwest of Rio. I never get a chance to go to either though. Been looking for any small plane activity here, but see little. Nothing at this airport and only a little flying over the city. There is another airport to go look at, if I can get there. Our internet went down since yesterday for the entire city. Now with all the banks and businesses trying to catch up, as well as us e-mailers, it is very slow. Took an hour to download Francescos instrument panel picture. I have to limit my e-mails to get any done. This happens here from time to time... It must have been fantastic to bush fly Brazil! This is a really big place and a lot of bush field places to go to. When you have some time, please give us a story or 2. Tonight I fly to Argentina - and back. A long night. Too much time to think about .... "It was a long, dark and stormy night.... The jungle beckoned from below. `Come to visit me and stay`, it said....." Kurt S. A long way from my S-5/NSI turbo Do not archive --- Bruce Harrison <firestarii@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Kurt, where are you in Brazil? I grew up in Belem, > Para. Got to do a lot of > Hi Bruce, I am in Campinis (CPN VOR or VCP airport) on the East side a little more than 1/2 way down. It is about an hour directly in from the coast, but further southwest of Rio. I never get a chance to go to either though. Been looking for any small plane activity here, but see little. Nothing at this airport and only a little flying over the city. Our internet went down since yesterday for the entire city. Now with all the banks and businesses trying to catch up, as well as us e-mailers, it is very slow. Took an hour to download Francescos instrument panel picture. I have to limit my e-mails to get any done. This happens here from time to time... It must have been fantastic to bush fly Brazil! This is a really big place and a lot of bush field places to go to. When you have some time, please give us a story or 2. Kurt S. A long way from my S-5/NSI turbo --- Bruce Harrison <firestarii@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Kurt, where are you in Brazil? I grew up in Belem, > Para. Got to do a lot of bush flying while growing up. > Wouldn't trade that experience for anything.Wouldn't trade that > experience for anything. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com


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    Time: 04:55:45 PM PST US
    From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Re: Low fuel alarm for header tank
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com> Don, as it happens I am right now in the process of trying to do the same thing as well as adding a Facet 40171 pump. The easiest in one way for a sensor for low fuel is a float switch. Several of these are available as posted else where. However these need some depth in the fuel to allow the float to drop. Now if you can work out how to mount it in your header tank up near the top on the side that's great, but it does not seem easy to me as an after thought. So I am looking for an optical sensor. These are usually just a bit of electronics in a 1/2" threaded fitting and so if you mount a short piece of say 1" tube horizontally across the top of your header tank with the breather pipe going into it and out again it will be full of fuel when you are getting fuel flow into your header tank and just before your header tank level starts to drop when your wing tanks are empty the tube will be empty. Now I suppose this tube could be big enought for a float switch but thats very messy. However as I said about a 1" tube will let you mount an optical sensor in the end. This sensor can feed a flashing LED [ light emitting diode ] on your panel or with minor electronics operate an audible alarm or a sgnal in your earhones or all of the above. The thing is I haven't been able to get one of these sensors. Yes I can find them on the nett but no one seems to want to sell me just one. First let me try to explain how they work. They should cost about $50 although really there is no reason why they shouldn't be a lot less. All they are is an little infra red LED and a photo transistor. That's just a transistor that the light can shine into and activate it. Now what happens is that the LED projects the light straight ahead out of the fitting into the fuel, next to it is the photo transistor looking straight out of the fitting into the fuel. Over the end of these two devices is clear glass or some suitable clear synthetic. This is sharpened to a point making both the LED and the transistor look at a 45 degree surface. The LED beam hits the 45 degree surface on it's side and reflects across at a right angle to the 45 degree surface in front of the transistor. The beam is again reflected at 45 degrees into the transistor turning it on. Like activating a switch. Well that's the way things happen when in the air as in low fuel but when fuel covers to pointed glass envelope at the end of our sensor most of the light beam is not reflected and so the transistor does not turn on. Hence we can tell if fuel is covering our sensor or not. OK go to www.gentechsensors.com and there is 5 pictures. The left hand one on the bottom is such a sensor. They also make a stainless steel one, [ OS-10 ] with a glass envelope [ pointy end ] that is needed for petrol but I can't get any answer from them. I live in Australia and contacted their agent over here, Adilam Electronics but they don't carry these in stock and would need to buy probably one thousand units. So now you can also go to www.Fluidswitch.com for such a sensor. They have quoted me $55US but won't ship international less than $500. Go to www.ppavionics.com site and you will find these sensors for $100 [Mmmm!] Also though you can track to a link called "How it Works" that might explain better than I just have as it has a drawing. Well anyway that's hopefully some enlightenment for you. If you do find a source of supply please let me know and I can probably help you with the wiring side if needed. Goodluck, Rex. rexjan@bigpond.com


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    Time: 06:40:29 PM PST US
    From: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Low fuel alarm for header tank
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com> -Hi Rex, Thanks for all that information on the low fuel warning, Another gentlemen on the list told me to look at the one sold on www.MurleWilliamsAviation.com, go to catalog sales, It looks very much like what you are talking about, don"t know if they will ship to you or not, I,m in Canada and I don,t know if they ship here or not, but I may look into it. Great talking to you, let me know how you make out. Best Regards, Don Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario, Canada Model4/1200/912 -- Rex & Jan Shaw <rexjan@bigpond.com> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" > <rexjan@bigpond.com> > > Don, > as it happens I am right now in the process > of trying to do the > same thing as well as adding a Facet 40171 pump. > The easiest in one way for a sensor for low fuel is > a float switch. Several > of these are available as posted else where. However > these need some depth > in the fuel to allow the float to drop. Now if you > can work out how to mount > it in your header tank up near the top on the side > that's great, but it does > not seem easy to me as an after thought. So I am > looking for an optical > sensor. These are usually just a bit of electronics > in a 1/2" threaded > fitting and so if you mount a short piece of say 1" > tube horizontally across > the top of your header tank with the breather pipe > going into it and out > again it will be full of fuel when you are getting > fuel flow into your > header tank and just before your header tank level > starts to drop when your > wing tanks are empty the tube will be empty. Now I > suppose this tube could > be big enought for a float switch but thats very > messy. However as I said > about a 1" tube will let you mount an optical sensor > in the end. This sensor > can feed a flashing LED [ light emitting diode ] on > your panel or with minor > electronics operate an audible alarm or a sgnal in > your earhones or all of > the above. The thing is I haven't been able to get > one of these sensors. Yes > I can find them on the nett but no one seems to want > to sell me just one. > First let me try to explain how they work. They > should cost about $50 > although really there is no reason why they > shouldn't be a lot less. All > they are is an little infra red LED and a photo > transistor. That's just a > transistor that the light can shine into and > activate it. Now what happens > is that the LED projects the light straight ahead > out of the fitting into > the fuel, next to it is the photo transistor looking > straight out of the > fitting into the fuel. Over the end of these two > devices is clear glass or > some suitable clear synthetic. This is sharpened to > a point making both the > LED and the transistor look at a 45 degree surface. > The LED beam hits the 45 > degree surface on it's side and reflects across at a > right angle to the 45 > degree surface in front of the transistor. The beam > is again reflected at 45 > degrees into the transistor turning it on. Like > activating a switch. Well > that's the way things happen when in the air as in > low fuel but when fuel > covers to pointed glass envelope at the end of our > sensor most of the light > beam is not reflected and so the transistor does not > turn on. Hence we can > tell if fuel is covering our sensor or not. > OK go to www.gentechsensors.com and there is 5 > pictures. The left hand one > on the bottom is such a sensor. They also make a > stainless steel one, [ > OS-10 ] with a glass envelope [ pointy end ] that > is needed for petrol but > I can't get any answer from them. I live in > Australia and contacted their > agent over here, Adilam Electronics but they don't > carry these in stock and > would need to buy probably one thousand units. > So now you can also go to www.Fluidswitch.com for > such a sensor. They have > quoted me $55US but won't ship international less > than $500. > Go to www.ppavionics.com site and you will find > these sensors for $100 > [Mmmm!] Also though you can track to a link called > "How it Works" that > might explain better than I just have as it has a > drawing. > Well anyway that's hopefully some enlightenment for > you. If you do find a > source of supply please let me know and I can > probably help you with the > wiring side if needed. > > Goodluck, > > Rex. > > rexjan@bigpond.com > > > > Click on > about > provided > www.buildersbooks.com, > Admin. > _-> > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > >




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