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     1. 03:48 AM - install new 582 (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
     2. 06:02 AM - Re: Bowed Birch False Ribs (flier)
     3. 08:44 AM - Kitfox Spinner (John Danielson)
     4. 10:43 AM - sight gauges (Fox5flyer)
     5. 11:52 AM - Re: sight gauges ()
     6. 12:06 PM - Re: sight gauges (kurt schrader)
     7. 12:06 PM - Re: Bowed Birch False Ribs (kurt schrader)
     8. 12:21 PM - Re: telephone number-fire ()
     9. 12:22 PM - Re: sight gauges (Alan & Linda Daniels)
    10. 12:24 PM - Re: sight gauges (Tim Vader)
    11. 12:26 PM - Re: sight gauges (Lowell Fitt)
    12. 01:23 PM - Re: Wing Tips (kurt schrader)
    13. 01:29 PM - Re: sight gauges (Fox5flyer)
    14. 01:36 PM - Re: telephone number-fire (kurt schrader)
    15. 02:11 PM - Need email address for Murle Williams Aviation (Donald STEVENSON)
    16. 02:23 PM - Re: Bowed Birch False Ribs (Ron Liebmann)
    17. 04:01 PM - Re: Need email address for Murle Williams Aviation (Jim Burke)
    18. 04:16 PM - Re: sight gauges (jablackwell)
    19. 04:31 PM - Re Sabaru fires (Rex & Jan Shaw)
    20. 04:50 PM - Re: Need email address for Murle Williams Aviation (Donald STEVENSON)
    21. 04:55 PM - NSI Ignition Problems (Michael Logan)
    22. 06:01 PM - Re: Wing Tips (Lowell Fitt)
    23. 06:10 PM - Re: NSI Ignition Problems (Fox5flyer)
    24. 07:42 PM - Re: NSI Ignition Problems (John Perry)
 
 
 
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Malcolmbru@aol.com
      
      I am a new kitfox 2 owner completted in 2000 w a 532  want to  install582  w 
      e box have  questions about e box fitting and  mufler  cutting? horse power? 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Bowed Birch False Ribs | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
      
      If the S7 false ribs are like all the other models 
      you can straighten them up after covering.  Just get 
      them glued straight then after fabric goes on (after 
      shrink but before Polybrush) simply nudge them 
      straight.  Even stubborn ones can be 'tacked' with 
      some Polytack through the fabric.  After Polybrush 
      they're pretty much not shifting.
      
      Regards,
      
      Ted
      
      --- Original Message ---
      From: "Don & Chris (new)" <dcradish@povn.com>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Bowed Birch False Ribs
      
      >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don & Chris 
      (new)" <dcradish@povn.com>
      >
      >I am new to this list  "thing" and it looks quite 
      interesting and helpful.  I am working on the first 
      wing of my S7 and just figured out that I want the 
      bottom false ribs so I am having to make them from a 
      pattern obtained from John McBean. (Thanks, John) My 
      problem is that the 2.5 mm plywood available seems to 
      all have a good bow to it. After having trouble with 
      the semi-straight top false ribs that came with the 
      kit, is there a way to straighten the plywood before 
      cutting it, or are there suggestions on how else to 
      get these things straight?
      >
      >Don McIntosh
      >Sandpoint, ID
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <jdaniel343@bresnan.net>
      
      
      I am rebuilding a Kitfox, and am in need of a 6" spinner and Backplate.
      Anyone out there with some left over parts there willing to part with?
      
      John Danielson
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      
      I'm preparing to replace my S5 original acrylic tubing sight gauges.  They've been
      in service for 5 years now and have become somewhat discolored, but no other
      problems.  Looking at ACS catalog I find two types of clear rigid tubing. 
      One is "clear extruded acrylic tubing" and the other is "clear PVC rigid schedule
      40".  Does anyone know which one is the correct one to order?
      Also, is there a better way than using the clear rigid stuff and having to bend
      it?  I seem to remember a thread where clear Tygon was used with inserts to keep
      it from leaking.  Any input before I order would be muchly appreciated.
      Thanks,
      Deke
      25f, calm, clear in NE Michigan
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: sight gauges | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rkstevens@verizon.net>
      
      I believe that John McBean has got them on his web site.  He sells the complete
      site gauge kit w/placard, etc.  I imagine that you could get the tubing from
      him or upgrade to his complete setup.
      
      >From: Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      >Date: Tue Dec 13 12:28:21 CST 2005
      >To: Kitfox List <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: Kitfox-List: sight gauges
      
      >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      >
      >I'm preparing to replace my S5 original acrylic tubing sight gauges.  They've
      been in service for 5 years now and have become somewhat discolored, but no other
      problems.  Looking at ACS catalog I find two types of clear rigid tubing.
      One is "clear extruded acrylic tubing" and the other is "clear PVC rigid schedule
      40".  Does anyone know which one is the correct one to order?
      >Also, is there a better way than using the clear rigid stuff and having to bend
      it?  I seem to remember a thread where clear Tygon was used with inserts to
      keep it from leaking.  Any input before I order would be muchly appreciated.
      >Thanks,
      >Deke
      >25f, calm, clear in NE Michigan
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: sight gauges | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      
      Deke,
      
      There is an easier way.  Call or e-mail John McB for
      his sight gauge mod.  Look here:
      
      www.sportplanellc.com
      
      John has quite a list of parts now.  Look under wing
      accessories for new tubing and sharp looking placards.
       These are softer tubes that should last a long time
      and not leak or get brittle.  If they do, it is an
      easy tubing change instead of heat bending the hard
      stuff.  The kit converts over to tubing fittings
      instead of those touchy compression fittings and holds
      the soft tubes in place for clear easy reading.
      
      kurt S.  S-5/NSI turbo
      
      --- Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> wrote:
      
      > I'm preparing to replace my S5 original acrylic
      > tubing sight gauges.  They've been in service for 5
      > years now and have become somewhat discolored, but
      > no other problems.  Looking at ACS catalog I find
      > two types of clear rigid tubing.  One is "clear
      > extruded acrylic tubing" and the other is "clear PVC
      > rigid schedule 40".  Does anyone know which one is
      > the correct one to order?
      > Also, is there a better way than using the clear
      > rigid stuff and having to bend it?  I seem to
      > remember a thread where clear Tygon was used with
      > inserts to keep it from leaking.  Any input before I
      > order would be muchly appreciated.
      > Thanks,
      > Deke
      > 25f, calm, clear in NE Michigan
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Bowed Birch False Ribs | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      
      Hi Don,
      
      If you have a model hobby shop near by, they should
      have a pile of that thin plywood for you to find
      straight material from.  Some can be found on the web
      too in a google search, but I prefer to see the stuff
      and pick straight pieces.
      
      If not, the few that I had to straighten in the wing
      and tail were done by pushing them over thru the
      fabric and using a few straight pins to hold them in
      place.  Use enough pins so as not to pucker the fabric
      and then poly tack/brush then in place.
      
      Seemed to work ok for me, but if you have a lot of
      bent material it is better to look for straight stock
      and save the work later.
      
      kurt S.  S-5
      
      
      > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don & Chris 
      > (new)" <dcradish@povn.com>
      > >
      > >I am new to this list  "thing" and it looks quite
      interesting and helpful.  I am working on the first
      wing of my S7 and just figured out that I want the
      bottom false ribs so I am having to make them from a
      pattern obtained from John McBean. (Thanks, John) My
      problem is that the 2.5 mm plywood available seems to
      all have a good bow to it. After having trouble with
      the semi-straight top false ribs that came with the
      kit, is there a way to straighten the plywood before
      cutting it, or are there suggestions on how else to
      get these things straight?
      > >
      > >Don McIntosh
      > >Sandpoint, ID
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: telephone number-fire | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: <pgow@chartermi.net>
      
      ---- kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> wrote: 
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      > 
      > Hi Pete,
      > 
      > Sorry about your fire and hands.  Sometimes a little
      > snow is a good thing.
      > 
      > When you get a chance to sum up the damage, we other
      > NIS owners would like to know what burned for so long.
      >  I have had several back fires of my own when I
      > overprimed, but none burned anything.  I just get some
      > oil splatter out the filter.  I am wondering what you
      > had that would burn for 2 minutes and light off the
      > cowl.  I might face the same problem in the future?
      > 
      > Kurt S.  S-5/NIS turbo
      > 
      > --- pgow@chartermi.net wrote:
      > >
      > > Does anyone on the list know the phone number of
      > > NSI?  I can't find it on the web site,and the old
      > > toll-free number is out of service. I just had an
      > > engine fire and I need a lower rear cowling.The carb
      > > back fired and the engine and cowling caught on
      > > fire.VERY SCARY!!! Flames about 2ft high for about
      > > 2-3 mins. I put out the fire with snow. Got a few
      > > blisters on both hands.I'll be needing more parts
      > > but I don't know what all I need yet. For right I
      > > need to get a hold of NSI.             Pete Gow
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      Hi Kurt, Gas blow out of the carb and spilled onto the cowling and wires. The flame
      was so large and unable to put it out right away. I needed to open the hanger
      door to get at the snow.Basicly, gas on cowling and time trying to put it
      out.  Pete Gow
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: sight gauges | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
      
      John McBean's system is better. IMHO
      
      Alan
      
      Fox5flyer wrote:
      
      >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      >
      >I'm preparing to replace my S5 original acrylic tubing sight gauges.  They've
      been in service for 5 years now and have become somewhat discolored, but no other
      problems.  Looking at ACS catalog I find two types of clear rigid tubing.
      One is "clear extruded acrylic tubing" and the other is "clear PVC rigid schedule
      40".  Does anyone know which one is the correct one to order?
      >Also, is there a better way than using the clear rigid stuff and having to bend
      it?  I seem to remember a thread where clear Tygon was used with inserts to
      keep it from leaking.  Any input before I order would be muchly appreciated.
      >Thanks,
      >Deke
      >25f, calm, clear in NE Michigan
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: sight gauges | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tim Vader" <vadert@telusplanet.net>
      
      Deke
      
      Check out John McBean's website for polyurethane sight guage tubes along 
      with calibrated scales. Priced right and good looking. 
      www.sportplanellc.com
      
      Tim Vader
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: sight gauges
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      >
      > I'm preparing to replace my S5 original acrylic tubing sight gauges. 
      > They've been in service for 5 years now and have become somewhat 
      > discolored, but no other problems.  Looking at ACS catalog I find two 
      > types of clear rigid tubing.  One is "clear extruded acrylic tubing" and 
      > the other is "clear PVC rigid schedule 40".  Does anyone know which one is 
      > the correct one to order?
      > Also, is there a better way than using the clear rigid stuff and having to 
      > bend it?  I seem to remember a thread where clear Tygon was used with 
      > inserts to keep it from leaking.  Any input before I order would be muchly 
      > appreciated.
      > Thanks,
      > Deke
      > 25f, calm, clear in NE Michigan
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: sight gauges | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
      
      Deke,
      
      I went back to tygon.  I found that the old barb fittings were fine and I 
      heated and bent it to get the indicator part vertical.  I got tired of the 
      nylon fittings loosening and leaking.
      
      Lowell
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: sight gauges
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      >
      > I'm preparing to replace my S5 original acrylic tubing sight gauges. 
      > They've been in service for 5 years now and have become somewhat 
      > discolored, but no other problems.  Looking at ACS catalog I find two 
      > types of clear rigid tubing.  One is "clear extruded acrylic tubing" and 
      > the other is "clear PVC rigid schedule 40".  Does anyone know which one is 
      > the correct one to order?
      > Also, is there a better way than using the clear rigid stuff and having to 
      > bend it?  I seem to remember a thread where clear Tygon was used with 
      > inserts to keep it from leaking.  Any input before I order would be muchly 
      > appreciated.
      > Thanks,
      > Deke
      > 25f, calm, clear in NE Michigan
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      
      Thanks Lowell,
      
      I finally got to see this on a computer down here in
      S. America.  Not all computers download pics and
      movies well, if at all.  Hard enough figuring out the
      keyboards.... :-(       etc and keys in different
      places.  I get hand cramps from it.
      
      Nice looking wingtips Lowell.  How did you form the
      glass part?
      
      What I would like to do is install one of those 2
      million candle power lights for a landing light.  Darn
      things are just too big in diamater though.  I have a
      hand held and it lights up over 1000' of runway really
      well and people can see you when you turn it on. 
      Might build it into the cowl later on.
      
      Kurt S.  S-5/NSI turbo
      
      Do not archive
      
      --- Lowell Fitt <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
      
      
      > Kurt,  This was one of my mods while building.  I
      > thought about the cooling 
      > venting but for some reason didn't do it.  A nice
      > little NACA vent would look cool.  Check:
      > 
      >
      http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=1133325160
      > 
      > Lowell
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: sight gauges | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      
      Thanks Kurt.  I'll take a look.
      Deke
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: sight gauges
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
      <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      >
      > Deke,
      >
      > There is an easier way.  Call or e-mail John McB for
      > his sight gauge mod.  Look here:
      >
      > www.sportplanellc.com
      >
      > John has quite a list of parts now.  Look under wing
      > accessories for new tubing and sharp looking placards.
      >  These are softer tubes that should last a long time
      > and not leak or get brittle.  If they do, it is an
      > easy tubing change instead of heat bending the hard
      > stuff.  The kit converts over to tubing fittings
      > instead of those touchy compression fittings and holds
      > the soft tubes in place for clear easy reading.
      >
      > kurt S.  S-5/NSI turbo
      >
      > --- Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> wrote:
      >
      > > I'm preparing to replace my S5 original acrylic
      > > tubing sight gauges.  They've been in service for 5
      > > years now and have become somewhat discolored, but
      > > no other problems.  Looking at ACS catalog I find
      > > two types of clear rigid tubing.  One is "clear
      > > extruded acrylic tubing" and the other is "clear PVC
      > > rigid schedule 40".  Does anyone know which one is
      > > the correct one to order?
      > > Also, is there a better way than using the clear
      > > rigid stuff and having to bend it?  I seem to
      > > remember a thread where clear Tygon was used with
      > > inserts to keep it from leaking.  Any input before I
      > > order would be muchly appreciated.
      > > Thanks,
      > > Deke
      > > 25f, calm, clear in NE Michigan
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: telephone number-fire | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      
      Thanks Pete,
      
      On some planes you can keep cranking and suck the fuel
      and fire back into the carb/engine, but I dont know
      if that will work so well on the Eillison TB.  And
      once the fuel gets out of the filter it is too late. 
      In any case, I keep cranking, if I get a backfire just
      in case.
      
      I think I might put some more of that thin heat
      barrier on the cowl around the intake too, just in
      case.
      
      Kurt S.  S-5/NSI turbo
      
      
      > Hi Kurt, Gas blow out of the carb and spilled onto
      > the cowling and wires. The flame was so large and
      > unable to put it out right away. I needed to open
      > the hanger door to get at the snow.Basicly, gas on
      > cowling and time trying to put it out.  Pete Gow
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Need email address for Murle Williams Aviation | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
      
      Hi everyone, Can anybody give me the email address for
      Muryle Williams Aviation, my computer will not respond
      when I click on the e-mail prompt on their web site,
      Thanks, Don
      
      Don Stevenson,Caledon, Ontario, Canada
      M4/1200/912
      
      
              
      
              
                      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Bowed Birch False Ribs | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Liebmann" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
      
      Hey Don,
      
      I solved the problem even before I installed the false ribs by cutting 1/4" 
      wide strips of 1/32" plywood and glued to to the top edge at full length. 
      This not only keeps the false rib straight and gives it needed strength but 
      it gives the fabric a wider, better looking gluing surface.
      
      Ron   N55KF
      
      
      > Hi Don,
      >
      > If you have a model hobby shop near by, they should
      > have a pile of that thin plywood for you to find
      > straight material from.  Some can be found on the web
      > too in a google search, but I prefer to see the stuff
      > and pick straight pieces.
      >
      > If not, the few that I had to straighten in the wing
      > and tail were done by pushing them over thru the
      > fabric and using a few straight pins to hold them in
      > place.  Use enough pins so as not to pucker the fabric
      > and then poly tack/brush then in place.
      >
      > Seemed to work ok for me, but if you have a lot of
      > bent material it is better to look for straight stock
      > and save the work later.
      >
      > kurt S.  S-5
      >
      >
      >> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don & Chris
      >> (new)" <dcradish@povn.com>
      >> >
      >> >I am new to this list  "thing" and it looks quite
      > interesting and helpful.  I am working on the first
      > wing of my S7 and just figured out that I want the
      > bottom false ribs so I am having to make them from a
      > pattern obtained from John McBean. (Thanks, John) My
      > problem is that the 2.5 mm plywood available seems to
      > all have a good bow to it. After having trouble with
      > the semi-straight top false ribs that came with the
      > kit, is there a way to straighten the plywood before
      > cutting it, or are there suggestions on how else to
      > get these things straight?
      >> >
      >> >Don McIntosh
      >> >Sandpoint, ID
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Need email address for Murle Williams Aviation | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
      
      The address below should do it for you Don.
      
      murle.williams@gmail.com
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Donald STEVENSON" <shericom@rogers.com>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Need email address for Murle Williams Aviation
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
      > 
      > Hi everyone, Can anybody give me the email address for
      > Muryle Williams Aviation, my computer will not respond
      > when I click on the e-mail prompt on their web site,
      > Thanks, Don
      > 
      > Don Stevenson,Caledon, Ontario, Canada
      > M4/1200/912
      > 
      > 
      >        
      > 
      >        
      >                
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: sight gauges | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
      
      
      Go to Sportplanellc.com.   John McBean sells very nice sight 
      gauges that come with tygon tubing and a brass rod that lets you 
      bend to fit your particular application.
      
      Jimmie
      
      ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
      From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      
      >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" 
      <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      >
      >I'm preparing to replace my S5 original acrylic tubing sight 
      gauges.  They've been in service for 5 years now and have become 
      somewhat discolored, but no other problems.  Looking at ACS 
      catalog I find two types of clear rigid tubing.  One is "clear 
      extruded acrylic tubing" and the other is "clear PVC rigid 
      schedule 40".  Does anyone know which one is the correct one to 
      order?
      >Also, is there a better way than using the clear rigid stuff and 
      having to bend it?  I seem to remember a thread where clear Tygon 
      was used with inserts to keep it from leaking.  Any input before I 
      order would be muchly appreciated.
      >Thanks,
      >Deke
      >25f, calm, clear in NE Michigan
      >
      >
      
      
      Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
      
      
                         
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
      
      Hi Pete,
      
      Sorry about your fire and hands.  Sometimes a little
      snow is a good thing.
      
      When you get a chance to sum up the damage, we other
      NIS owners would like to know what burned for so long.
       I have had several back fires of my own when I
      overprimed, but none burned anything.  I just get some
      oil splatter out the filter.  I am wondering what you
      had that would burn for 2 minutes and light off the
      cowl.  I might face the same problem in the future?
      
      Hi ! Guys,
                        I'm not sure I should comment here because I'm a Rotax 582
      man and have hardly looked at a Sabaru. However our governing body here in
      Australia used to be called  Australian Ultralight Federation [ AUF ] but is
      now Recreational Aviation Australia [ RAAus ] At the moment in our magazine
      there is a lot of concern re Sabarus catching fire and they are still
      working on the problem so they would no doubt appreciate any comments and
      also be glad I'm sure to make same with a view to helping all concerned.
        Out of our latest magazine I just recieved yesterday are some suggestions
      being entertained.  I quote :-
        " Last time I wrote I mentioned that a coroner advised that the carburetor
      installation should be rethought on the Saburus. Two identifiable causes for
      an engine fire are having the carby sit on top of the exhaust, and secondly
      an incorrect fuel system set up. Many thanks to those that wrote in or
      responded by e'mail. Please note that the Sabaru's are no more dangerous
      than any other engine, so awareness of correct set up needs to be spread
       From the response I recieved the following suggestions were put forward.
       *  Drip tray under the carburetor with a drain tube leading away from the
      engine.
       *  Installation of a pressure sensor between the last pump and the
      carburetor.
       *  Correct choice of electric fuel pumps for fuel system, eg  rattle
      diaphram pump vented to the atmosphere.
       There also has been a suggestion of an article on fuel system installation,
      which I believe would benifit most readers. I hope to have something put
      together for you for the next issue in 2006."
       If anyone wants to contact the writer he is our Technical Manager Chris
      Kiehn. tech@raa.asn.au  and our magazine is called Recreational Aviation
      Australiaand this is the Dec 05/Jan 06 issue. The arrticle is on page 14.
      
      Rex.
      rexjan@bigpond.com
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Need email address for Murle Williams Aviation | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
      
      Thanks Jim, I'll give it a try, Don
      
      
      --- Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com> wrote:
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke
      > <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
      > 
      > The address below should do it for you Don.
      > 
      > murle.williams@gmail.com
      > 
      > 
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Donald STEVENSON" <shericom@rogers.com>
      > To: "Kitfox List" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: Need email address for Murle
      > Williams Aviation
      > 
      > 
      > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald
      > STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
      > > 
      > > Hi everyone, Can anybody give me the email address
      > for
      > > Muryle Williams Aviation, my computer will not
      > respond
      > > when I click on the e-mail prompt on their web
      > site,
      > > Thanks, Don
      > > 
      > > Don Stevenson,Caledon, Ontario, Canada
      > > M4/1200/912
      > > 
      > > 
      > >        
      > > 
      > >        
      > >                
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > >
      > 
      > 
      >
      > Click on
      > about
      > provided
      > www.buildersbooks.com,
      > Admin.
      > _->
      > browse
      > Subscriptions page,
      > FAQ,
      >
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
              
      
              
                      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | NSI Ignition Problems | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
      
      I have the NSI SHO engine with the dual Electromotive HPV-1 ignition and one
      of them has gone bad.  I have isolated the problem down to the module itself
      and discussed this with the technical help at Electromotive.  He said it is
      not worth tearing it apart to fix it but the replacement part would be $695
      and would require me to redesign the whole mounting system for the ignition
      since it is different than the old one.
      
      
      Does anyone have a spare HPV-1 ignition module they would like to sell me?
      The guy at Electromotive said I should look on Ebay, but that could take
      months for one to show up with no guarantee that I would get it.
      
      
      Does anyone know if there is an email list for people with the NSI setup?
      
      
      I have the full schematics for the unit, anyone out there that can help me
      repair it?
      
       My plane is grounded until I can get this fixed.
      
      
      Mike Logan
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
      
      The lens is polycarbonate and I formed it over a plaster plug made from an 
      impression of the wing tip.  I did it in my wife's oven while she was out of 
      town.
      
      Lowell
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Wing Tips
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader 
      > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      >
      > Thanks Lowell,
      >
      > I finally got to see this on a computer down here in
      > S. America.  Not all computers download pics and
      > movies well, if at all.  Hard enough figuring out the
      > keyboards.... :-(       etc and keys in different
      > places.  I get hand cramps from it.
      >
      > Nice looking wingtips Lowell.  How did you form the
      > glass part?
      >
      > What I would like to do is install one of those 2
      > million candle power lights for a landing light.  Darn
      > things are just too big in diamater though.  I have a
      > hand held and it lights up over 1000' of runway really
      > well and people can see you when you turn it on.
      > Might build it into the cowl later on.
      >
      > Kurt S.  S-5/NSI turbo
      >
      > Do not archive
      >
      > --- Lowell Fitt <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
      >
      >
      >> Kurt,  This was one of my mods while building.  I
      >> thought about the cooling
      >> venting but for some reason didn't do it.  A nice
      >> little NACA vent would look cool.  Check:
      >>
      >>
      > http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=1133325160
      >>
      >> Lowell
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NSI Ignition Problems | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      
      Michael, try going to www.Groups.Yahoo.com and do a search for NSI.
      Something should pop up.
      Another you can try is www.airsoob.com .  Lots of folks there that might be
      able to help.
      Deke
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI Ignition Problems
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
      >
      > I have the NSI SHO engine with the dual Electromotive HPV-1 ignition and
      one
      > of them has gone bad.  I have isolated the problem down to the module
      itself
      > and discussed this with the technical help at Electromotive.  He said it
      is
      > not worth tearing it apart to fix it but the replacement part would be
      $695
      > and would require me to redesign the whole mounting system for the
      ignition
      > since it is different than the old one.
      >
      >
      > Does anyone have a spare HPV-1 ignition module they would like to sell me?
      > The guy at Electromotive said I should look on Ebay, but that could take
      > months for one to show up with no guarantee that I would get it.
      >
      >
      > Does anyone know if there is an email list for people with the NSI setup?
      >
      >
      > I have the full schematics for the unit, anyone out there that can help me
      > repair it?
      >
      >  My plane is grounded until I can get this fixed.
      >
      >
      > Mike Logan
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NSI Ignition Problems | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
      
      Michael is it the diodes that you think died in them . if so we are in the 
      process of rebuilding some and will in the next several days if it works . 
      if it does then will everyone know where the proper diodes can be bought 
      from .
      Take care fly safe fly low fly slow
      John Perry
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI Ignition Problems
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
      >
      > I have the NSI SHO engine with the dual Electromotive HPV-1 ignition and 
      > one
      > of them has gone bad.  I have isolated the problem down to the module 
      > itself
      > and discussed this with the technical help at Electromotive.  He said it 
      > is
      > not worth tearing it apart to fix it but the replacement part would be 
      > $695
      > and would require me to redesign the whole mounting system for the 
      > ignition
      > since it is different than the old one.
      >
      >
      > Does anyone have a spare HPV-1 ignition module they would like to sell me?
      > The guy at Electromotive said I should look on Ebay, but that could take
      > months for one to show up with no guarantee that I would get it.
      >
      >
      > Does anyone know if there is an email list for people with the NSI setup?
      >
      >
      > I have the full schematics for the unit, anyone out there that can help me
      > repair it?
      >
      > My plane is grounded until I can get this fixed.
      >
      >
      > Mike Logan
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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