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1. 04:40 AM - Re: Electrical Conductivity of 2216 (Fox5flyer)
2. 04:46 AM - Re: Emailing: RE_ skis for avid _ and a few pics _ (Fox5flyer)
3. 06:52 AM - Wheel Penetration Skis (Stan Bearup)
4. 07:08 AM - Re: NSI Ignition Problems (Michael Logan)
5. 07:15 AM - Re: Electrical Conductivity of 2216 (jablackwell)
6. 07:42 AM - Re: Changes at NSI (Michael Logan)
7. 07:44 AM - Re: NSI Ignition Problems (Fox5flyer)
8. 07:48 AM - Electrical Conductivity of 2216 ShoeGoo/Goop (Fox5flyer)
9. 07:51 AM - Re: NSI Ignition Problems (Michael Logan)
10. 07:51 AM - Re: Wheel Penetration Skis (Fox5flyer)
11. 09:23 AM - Re: Model IV with Rotax 582 (Michael Gibbs)
12. 09:28 AM - If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... (kitfoxjunky)
13. 10:21 AM - Re: Model IV with Rotax 582 (jdmcbean)
14. 10:31 AM - Bungees (Gary Algate)
15. 10:46 AM - Re: Bungees (ron schick)
16. 11:04 AM - Need cover for Model IV (Luis Rodriguez)
17. 11:43 AM - Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... (Michel Verheughe)
18. 11:51 AM - Re: Need skis (Michel Verheughe)
19. 12:31 PM - Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... (Mdkitfox@aol.com)
20. 12:55 PM - Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... (ron schick)
21. 01:10 PM - Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... (Bradley M Webb)
22. 02:15 PM - Re: Firewall Edge Seal (Al Thomason)
23. 02:58 PM - Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... (Don Pearsall)
24. 03:45 PM - Re: Firewall Edge Seal (AMuller589@aol.com)
25. 04:03 PM - Re: Firewall Edge Seal (Guy Buchanan)
26. 04:11 PM - Re: Firewall Edge Seal (Donald STEVENSON)
27. 04:32 PM - Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... (kitfoxjunky)
28. 05:31 PM - Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... (Rich Williamson)
29. 05:37 PM - Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... (Torgeir Mortensen)
30. 05:53 PM - Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... (Jeff Hubbard)
31. 06:38 PM - Re: Firewall Edge Seal (Bradley M Webb)
32. 06:38 PM - Re: Skis (DPREMGOOD@aol.com)
33. 06:39 PM - Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... (jdmcbean)
34. 08:09 PM - Re: Firewall Edge Seal (Norm Beauchamp)
35. 08:12 PM - Re: Firewall Edge Seal (Norm Beauchamp)
36. 09:39 PM - Re: Firewall Edge Seal (James Shumaker)
37. 10:51 PM - Re: Firewall Edge Seal (Alan & Linda Daniels)
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical Conductivity of 2216 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Shoe Goo is very good for this purpose. Much more flexible than epoxy.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Electrical Conductivity of 2216
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
>
> Thnaks Michael. That is a good thought. I am thinking of using
> it to beef up a solder connection on my ignition system. Guess I
> can just try it and see what happens.
>
> Jimmie
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:16:29 +0100
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe
> <michel@online.no>
> >
> >On Dec 19, 2005, at 10:49 PM, jablackwell wrote:
> >
> >> Anyone know if the 3m 2216 epoxy is a good insulator or is it
> >> electrically conductive?
> >
> >Epoxy, as other resins, is a good insulator, Jimmie. In my days
> of
> >radio amateur, when my soldering iron was smoking often, I used
> epoxy
> >to embed "dirty" soldered components that I had onboard my
> sailboat.
> >But I don't know of that particular 3M product.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Michel
> >
> >
>
>
> Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
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| Subject: | Re: Emailing: RE_ skis for avid _ and a few pics _ |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
John, if you're trying to send an attachment to the list, because of virus
threats Matronics doesn't allow them. Much better to upload your pics to
Sportflight.com then click on uploads. Sportflight is hosted by our Don
Persall and is our permanent archive of photos and documents. For any who
haven't been in there, feel free to browse. Lots of stuff there from many
years back.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Emailing: RE_ skis for avid _ and a few pics _
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
>
> Here is some more ski stuff . I am making more of these but am busy for
the next 6 months before i will get more made .
> Take care fly safe fly low fly slow
> John Perry
> The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link
attachments:
> RE_ skis for avid _ and a few pics _
>
> Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent
sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail
security settings to determine how attachments are handled.
>
>
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| Subject: | Wheel Penetration Skis |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Stan Bearup" <bearup@ida.net>
I saw some new wheel penetration skis at OSH that looked like quality
skis.Click on the following link: http://www.trickair.com/index.html
Cheers!
Stan Bearup
Just Aircraft Higlander
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| Subject: | NSI Ignition Problems |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
John,
I have finally figured out that my HPV-1 ignition is not bad after all, it
is the coil combiners that NSI uses. Does anyone have any idea of where
Lance got these units? I can get a different configuration from Mallory but
I don't want to have to deal with designing another mount for four units
instead of the two on the NSI.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Perry
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Ignition Problems
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
Michael is it the diodes that you think died in them . if so we are in the
process of rebuilding some and will in the next several days if it works .
if it does then will everyone know where the proper diodes can be bought
from .
Take care fly safe fly low fly slow
John Perry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI Ignition Problems
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
>
> I have the NSI SHO engine with the dual Electromotive HPV-1 ignition and
> one
> of them has gone bad. I have isolated the problem down to the module
> itself
> and discussed this with the technical help at Electromotive. He said it
> is
> not worth tearing it apart to fix it but the replacement part would be
> $695
> and would require me to redesign the whole mounting system for the
> ignition
> since it is different than the old one.
>
>
> Does anyone have a spare HPV-1 ignition module they would like to sell me?
> The guy at Electromotive said I should look on Ebay, but that could take
> months for one to show up with no guarantee that I would get it.
>
>
> Does anyone know if there is an email list for people with the NSI setup?
>
>
> I have the full schematics for the unit, anyone out there that can help me
> repair it?
>
> My plane is grounded until I can get this fixed.
>
>
> Mike Logan
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical Conductivity of 2216 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Deke
I have heard of the shoe goo a long time ago on the list. Where
can I get it?
Jimmie
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
<morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
>Shoe Goo is very good for this purpose. Much more flexible than
epoxy.
>Deke
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Electrical Conductivity of 2216
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell"
<jablackwell@ev1.net>
>>
>>
>> Thnaks Michael. That is a good thought. I am thinking of
using
>> it to beef up a solder connection on my ignition system. Guess
I
>> can just try it and see what happens.
>>
>> Jimmie
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:16:29 +0100
>>
>> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe
>> <michel@online.no>
>> >
>> >On Dec 19, 2005, at 10:49 PM, jablackwell wrote:
>> >
>> >> Anyone know if the 3m 2216 epoxy is a good insulator or is it
>> >> electrically conductive?
>> >
>> >Epoxy, as other resins, is a good insulator, Jimmie. In my
days
>> of
>> >radio amateur, when my soldering iron was smoking often, I
used
>> epoxy
>> >to embed "dirty" soldered components that I had onboard my
>> sailboat.
>> >But I don't know of that particular 3M product.
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Michel
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
Jim,
If you had one of the early engines, the most likely problem is with your
coil combiners or the hall effect pickups since electronic ignitions don't
usually go bad slowly, at least not in my experience. NSI had a problem
with the early pickups and coil combiners both. I replaced both of them
with new units from Lance, of course I had to pay through the nose for the
parts too.
I am now in search for another set of coil combiners so if you hear of any,
let me know.
Mike Logan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Crowder
Subject: Kitfox-List: Changes at NSI
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
I have been in contact with NSI both Friday and Today. Lance is gone
and new management is in place. There is a name change to MG
Propulsion Systems, if I got that right. It was apparently not a
friendly separation with Lance. The overall owner remains the
same. Craig is still there although not in either time I
called. The good news is that they are answering the phone except
during lunch time.
My new problem is that I have lost one side of my duel ignition. I
lost it slowly, but finally completely while running the engine on
the ground over the period of one hour. Mine is one of the early
production models with I assume, an early ignition system. I have
reviewed some of the List emails from 2002 on the subject.
More good news is that I was put in touch with Bob Eatwell who is in
charge of new electrical design for the new company. He is from
England and in fact is leaving for a week in England tomorrow. As I
will be heading for Minnesota on Wednesday for a week, he will be
back about the same time I am back. He asked me to do some more
trouble shooting and in the meantime he will obtain data on my
system. I am to call him back and he will be prepared to work
through the system with me. Maybe then I will finally get my plane
flying. All together I only have about 11 flight hours on the
plane. I am determined to stick with it and work the bugs out this time.
:)
For now I can report that they are very business like in their
response, say they have plenty of resources, and intend to get the
new company on the road. I got no feeling that they were going to
sideslip old problems. Those of you who have issues with NSI, I
suggest you give them a new call.
Jim Crowder
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| Subject: | Re: NSI Ignition Problems |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Mike, MSD makes a coil joiner. Don't know if it's the same unit or not.
Deke
> I have finally figured out that my HPV-1 ignition is not bad after all, it
> is the coil combiners that NSI uses. Does anyone have any idea of where
> Lance got these units? I can get a different configuration from Mallory
but
> I don't want to have to deal with designing another mount for four units
> instead of the two on the NSI.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Perry
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Ignition Problems
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
>
> Michael is it the diodes that you think died in them . if so we are in the
> process of rebuilding some and will in the next several days if it works .
> if it does then will everyone know where the proper diodes can be bought
> from .
> Take care fly safe fly low fly slow
> John Perry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI Ignition Problems
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan"
<michael.logan@cox.net>
> >
> > I have the NSI SHO engine with the dual Electromotive HPV-1 ignition and
> > one
> > of them has gone bad. I have isolated the problem down to the module
> > itself
> > and discussed this with the technical help at Electromotive. He said it
> > is
> > not worth tearing it apart to fix it but the replacement part would be
> > $695
> > and would require me to redesign the whole mounting system for the
> > ignition
> > since it is different than the old one.
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have a spare HPV-1 ignition module they would like to sell
me?
> > The guy at Electromotive said I should look on Ebay, but that could take
> > months for one to show up with no guarantee that I would get it.
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know if there is an email list for people with the NSI
setup?
> >
> >
> > I have the full schematics for the unit, anyone out there that can help
me
> > repair it?
> >
> > My plane is grounded until I can get this fixed.
> >
> >
> > Mike Logan
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Electrical Conductivity of 2216 ShoeGoo/Goop |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Pretty much anywhere. Walmart, Home Depot, hardware stores. Might even try
ebay. The stuff was originally marketed to runners who would wear out their
expensive running shoes. It's good for repairing delaminated soles, etc.
Works great as a support on electricals, especially where several wires come
together. There's another version called Goop that's pretty much the same
thing.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Electrical Conductivity of 2216
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
> Deke
>
> I have heard of the shoe goo a long time ago on the list. Where
> can I get it?
>
> Jimmie
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 07:39:41 -0500
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> >
> >Shoe Goo is very good for this purpose. Much more flexible than
> epoxy.
> >Deke
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Electrical Conductivity of 2216
> >
> >
> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell"
> <jablackwell@ev1.net>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thnaks Michael. That is a good thought. I am thinking of
> using
> >> it to beef up a solder connection on my ignition system. Guess
> I
> >> can just try it and see what happens.
> >>
> >> Jimmie
> >>
> >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >> From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> >> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:16:29 +0100
> >>
> >> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe
> >> <michel@online.no>
> >> >
> >> >On Dec 19, 2005, at 10:49 PM, jablackwell wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Anyone know if the 3m 2216 epoxy is a good insulator or is it
> >> >> electrically conductive?
> >> >
> >> >Epoxy, as other resins, is a good insulator, Jimmie. In my
> days
> >> of
> >> >radio amateur, when my soldering iron was smoking often, I
> used
> >> epoxy
> >> >to embed "dirty" soldered components that I had onboard my
> >> sailboat.
> >> >But I don't know of that particular 3M product.
> >> >
> >> >Cheers,
> >> >Michel
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
>
>
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| Subject: | NSI Ignition Problems |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
Deke,
I looked at theirs and Mallory's as well. They are of a different
configuration which would mean a new mounting configuration in a very tight
location.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Ignition Problems
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Mike, MSD makes a coil joiner. Don't know if it's the same unit or not.
Deke
> I have finally figured out that my HPV-1 ignition is not bad after all, it
> is the coil combiners that NSI uses. Does anyone have any idea of where
> Lance got these units? I can get a different configuration from Mallory
but
> I don't want to have to deal with designing another mount for four units
> instead of the two on the NSI.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Perry
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Ignition Problems
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Perry" <eskflyer@pld.com>
>
> Michael is it the diodes that you think died in them . if so we are in the
> process of rebuilding some and will in the next several days if it works .
> if it does then will everyone know where the proper diodes can be bought
> from .
> Take care fly safe fly low fly slow
> John Perry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI Ignition Problems
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan"
<michael.logan@cox.net>
> >
> > I have the NSI SHO engine with the dual Electromotive HPV-1 ignition and
> > one
> > of them has gone bad. I have isolated the problem down to the module
> > itself
> > and discussed this with the technical help at Electromotive. He said it
> > is
> > not worth tearing it apart to fix it but the replacement part would be
> > $695
> > and would require me to redesign the whole mounting system for the
> > ignition
> > since it is different than the old one.
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have a spare HPV-1 ignition module they would like to sell
me?
> > The guy at Electromotive said I should look on Ebay, but that could take
> > months for one to show up with no guarantee that I would get it.
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know if there is an email list for people with the NSI
setup?
> >
> >
> > I have the full schematics for the unit, anyone out there that can help
me
> > repair it?
> >
> > My plane is grounded until I can get this fixed.
> >
> >
> > Mike Logan
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wheel Penetration Skis |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
A bit pricey, but probably a good product. I've toyed with the idea of
using good quality snow boards as a base for skis. Anybody know if this has
been done?
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Bearup" <bearup@ida.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Wheel Penetration Skis
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Stan Bearup" <bearup@ida.net>
>
> I saw some new wheel penetration skis at OSH that looked like quality
> skis.Click on the following link: http://www.trickair.com/index.html
>
> Cheers!
> Stan Bearup
> Just Aircraft Higlander
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Model IV with Rotax 582 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Doug sez:
>I was wondering if anyone could tell me what this kit was worth or
>give me an idea how to sell this.
Murle Williams can help you. He's in the process of adding a 'for
sale'/'wanted' page to his web site and he is frequently asked about
aircraft to sell and for-sale. This is a free service--he does not
take any commission or payment for helping out.
Contact Murle via his web site: <http://MurleWilliamsAviation.com>,
by e-mail at: Murle.Williams@gmail.com, or by phone at: 602-978-0553.
Mike G.
N728KF
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| Subject: | If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... |
Serialize complete at 12/20/2005 12:28:54 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
.... then check this out. High Voltage 2002 Aerobatic footage from Japan.
Wow!! Makes you wonder where the camera person is.
http://guyrevel.free.fr/WGP/Haute-Voltige_au_Japon.wmv
Gary Walsh
KF IV Anphib 912S
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
do not archive
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| Subject: | Model IV with Rotax 582 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Doug,
Let us know if we help.. We have folks looking all the time.
Fly Safe !!
John McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Doug Sloan
Subject: Kitfox-List: Model IV with Rotax 582
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Doug Sloan" <dougsloan@nctv.com>
I have inherited a Classic IV kit with a Rotax 582 LC engine. This kit is
still in the original packaging. My grandfather never made it to assemble
this airplane. In reviewing the packing slip, the following options were
added: Cargo container mounting brackets, gascolator and mounting bracket,
prop - 3 blade fixed, antenna mount plates, speed fairing kit, vents,
auxiliary wing tank kit (left and right), and full instrument panel. The
rest seems to be the standard full kit.
I have all of the manuals, invoices, etc. I was wondering if anyone could
tell me what this kit was worth or give me an idea how to sell this. I am a
hobby pilot that flies Cessnas and have never attempted a taildragger
transition. I do not have an interest in building a plane either. If
anyone can help, my e-mail address is dougsloan@nctv.com.
Thanks.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Can anyone assist me in finding a supplier for pre made bungees for Kitfox
Model 4
Gary Algate
Lite2/582
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Gary Mcbean at Sportplane llc or Airdale have these. Ron NB Ore
>From: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Bungees
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:33:56 -0500
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
>
>Can anyone assist me in finding a supplier for pre made bungees for Kitfox
>Model 4
>Gary Algate
>Lite2/582
>
>Co not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Need cover for Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Luis Rodriguez" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
I made the mistake of purchasing a model IV before securing hangar space. Turns
out that there's a long waiting list at my airport. The cover I have now is a
home brew deal that isn't doing the job. After a couple of rainy days, I found
her with a couple of quarts of water in the fuselage despite the drain hole
in front of the tail spring. The water is getting trapped somewhere and I had
to raise the tail to drain it out the front. Kinda scary.
Is there an aircraft cover on the market that will keep her dry? Should I just
fold the wings and throw a tarp over her? Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
Luis,
824KF
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| Subject: | Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Dec 20, 2005, at 6:28 PM, kitfoxjunky wrote:
> http://guyrevel.free.fr/WGP/Haute-Voltige_au_Japon.wmv
Gary, I have had that movie on my desktop, both at home and at work,
for nearly a year. I don't remember who gave me the link and if it
wasn't this list, I must surely have published here too.
Anyway, this is the best video I have seen. I often watch it when I
need that little booster of energy, or if I feel a bit down. Man, this
is better than sex! I wish I could do aerobatics! (not in my Kitfox, of
course!)
The movie is extremely well done, I love the music, the building up of
the atmosphere, the incredible stuns, the last "pas de deux" of the two
planes dancing together like spinning lovers ... I am short of words!
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Dec 20, 2005, at 1:03 AM, Chenoweth wrote:
> Thank you Michel, just looked at your drawing but I have the Grove gear
> which has a different axle mounting system,
Oops, I didn't think of that. You see, I also have a plan to change to
Grove gear in the future. I see now that I'll have to modify my skis
too. Hum, I'll make a note of it, thanks.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mdkitfox@aol.com
Gary,
You're right. Wow, what a great video. Thanks for pointing it out to us.
Do Not Archive
Rick Weiss
N39RW Series V Speedster
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| Subject: | Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Hi Michel and Gary I Have a shortcut on my desktop to Jimmy Franklin in the
Skystar Kitfox at Oshgosh. If you want to see a Kitfox do aerobatics go to
Lazair.com then select kitfox avid forum then video then Jimmy Franklin.
Unbelievable and the term right side up is improper as the bottom is just as
right. Ron Nb Ore
>From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: If you liked the video footage from One Six
>Right...
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:42:28 +0100
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>On Dec 20, 2005, at 6:28 PM, kitfoxjunky wrote:
>
> > http://guyrevel.free.fr/WGP/Haute-Voltige_au_Japon.wmv
>
>Gary, I have had that movie on my desktop, both at home and at work,
>for nearly a year. I don't remember who gave me the link and if it
>wasn't this list, I must surely have published here too.
>
>Anyway, this is the best video I have seen. I often watch it when I
>need that little booster of energy, or if I feel a bit down. Man, this
>is better than sex! I wish I could do aerobatics! (not in my Kitfox, of
>course!)
>The movie is extremely well done, I love the music, the building up of
>the atmosphere, the incredible stuns, the last "pas de deux" of the two
>planes dancing together like spinning lovers ... I am short of words!
>
>Cheers,
>Michel
>
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
Great video, Thanks.
This is a great one, as well, if you've not seen it:
"Magin" by Sean D. Tucker
http://www.10374.com/3dbatix/videos/tucker/magin.wmv
Also, try http://www.aerobatics.nl . Some good videos there, too. I'm
waiting for the DVD of this one.
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxjunky
Subject: Kitfox-List: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right...
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
<kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
.... then check this out. High Voltage 2002 Aerobatic footage from Japan.
Wow!! Makes you wonder where the camera person is.
http://guyrevel.free.fr/WGP/Haute-Voltige_au_Japon.wmv
Gary Walsh
KF IV Anphib 912S
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Edge Seal |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Al Thomason" <alt@rockwall.net>
Norm I sure wish someone would let us know where we could fine the gap seal
that you are looking for. I'm building a classic IV and need the gap seal
also. I would also like to know the torque on the bolts that hold motor
mount to airframe at firewall for a 912uls.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Norm Beauchamp" <nebchmp@wcc.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Firewall Edge Seal
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Norm Beauchamp <nebchmp@wcc.net>
>
> I need to replace the seal that goes around the edge of the firewall.
> The one that seales the gap between the firewall edge and the cowl.
> There is nothing in the parts list or manuel to give an idea where it
> was purchased. I've looked in the ACS cataloge, and don't see it
> there. It may be one used on a GA aircraft, and ordered that way. A
> suitable replacement number is OK also. T I A. Norm
>
>
> ---
>
>
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| Subject: | If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
That's a great video. Both the planes and pilots are amazing. And that lady
pilot is one cool dude. She's upside down and pulling 8 g's and looks like
she is just driving her SUV to the grocery store.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxjunky
Subject: Kitfox-List: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right...
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
<kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
.... then check this out. High Voltage 2002 Aerobatic footage from Japan.
Wow!! Makes you wonder where the camera person is.
http://guyrevel.free.fr/WGP/Haute-Voltige_au_Japon.wmv
Gary Walsh
KF IV Anphib 912S
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Edge Seal |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com
on our Kitfox V we used one out of a auto supply place. it is a long round
tubular sponge with a single tab about 3/4 inch running lengthwise. It actually
is an upholstery component and will be available at upholstery houses.
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Edge Seal |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 02:13 PM 12/20/2005, you wrote:
>I would also like to know the torque on the bolts that hold motor
>mount to airframe at firewall for a 912uls.
The torque for anything on a Kitfox airframe should be found in AC 43-13,
Table 7-1. If your fuselage is the same as mine you'll use AN4 hardware
which has a "recommended" torque of 50-70 in-lbs. and a "maximum allowable"
of 100 in-lbs. (Be sure to increase these to account for lock nut friction.)
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Edge Seal |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
Hi Norm, I will also be needing the firewall edge seal
soon my self, I was cleaning the glass on my gas
fireplace the other day and realized the gasket around
the glass panel looks very much like the original bulb
seal I see in the Kitfox construction manual, I have
not had a chance to check it out but it just might be
what we need. Please let me know if you find anything,
Don
Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario, Canada
M4/1200/912 Speedster
--- Norm Beauchamp <nebchmp@wcc.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Norm Beauchamp
> <nebchmp@wcc.net>
>
> I need to replace the seal that goes around the edge
> of the firewall.
> The one that seales the gap between the firewall
> edge and the cowl.
> There is nothing in the parts list or manuel to give
> an idea where it
> was purchased. I've looked in the ACS cataloge, and
> don't see it
> there. It may be one used on a GA aircraft, and
> ordered that way. A
> suitable replacement number is OK also. T I A. Norm
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... |
Serialize complete at 12/20/2005 07:32:29 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Anyone know who the female pilot is?
Gary Walsh
KF IV Anphib 912S
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
<donpearsall@comcast.net>
That's a great video. Both the planes and pilots are amazing. And that
lady
pilot is one cool dude. She's upside down and pulling 8 g's and looks like
she is just driving her SUV to the grocery store.
Don Pearsall
Subject: Kitfox-List: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right...
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
<kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
.... then check this out. High Voltage 2002 Aerobatic footage from Japan.
Wow!! Makes you wonder where the camera person is.
http://guyrevel.free.fr/WGP/Haute-Voltige_au_Japon.wmv
Gary Walsh
KF IV Anphib 912S
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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| Subject: | Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rich Williamson" <rwill1@adelphia.net>
Yeah...soon to be my girlfriend (-:
----- Original Message -----
From: "kitfoxjunky" <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: If you liked the video footage from One Six
Right...
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
> <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>
> Anyone know who the female pilot is?
>
> Gary Walsh
> KF IV Anphib 912S
> C-GOOT
> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
> do not archive
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
> <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
> That's a great video. Both the planes and pilots are amazing. And that
> lady
> pilot is one cool dude. She's upside down and pulling 8 g's and looks like
> she is just driving her SUV to the grocery store.
>
> Don Pearsall
>
>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right...
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
> <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>
> .... then check this out. High Voltage 2002 Aerobatic footage from Japan.
> Wow!! Makes you wonder where the camera person is.
>
>
> http://guyrevel.free.fr/WGP/Haute-Voltige_au_Japon.wmv
>
>
> Gary Walsh
> KF IV Anphib 912S
> C-GOOT
> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Sure Gary,
This must be Kapanina Svetlana, the most(?) famouse female aerobatic pilot
ever.
Have a look here:
http://www.haute-voltige.com/inter/photos/photos.htm#
Torgeir.
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:32:25 -0500 Serialize complete at 12/20/2005
07:32:29 PM, kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
> <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>
> Anyone know who the female pilot is?
>
> Gary Walsh
> KF IV Anphib 912S
> C-GOOT
> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
> do not archive
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
> <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
> That's a great video. Both the planes and pilots are amazing. And that
> lady
> pilot is one cool dude. She's upside down and pulling 8 g's and looks
> like
> she is just driving her SUV to the grocery store.
>
> Don Pearsall
>
>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: If you liked the video footage from One Six
> Right...
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
> <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>
> .... then check this out. High Voltage 2002 Aerobatic footage from Japan.
> Wow!! Makes you wonder where the camera person is.
>
>
> http://guyrevel.free.fr/WGP/Haute-Voltige_au_Japon.wmv
>
>
> Gary Walsh
> KF IV Anphib 912S
> C-GOOT
> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeff Hubbard" <jhubbard65@comcast.net>
Get in line, Rich......
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Williamson" <rwill1@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: If you liked the video footage from One Six
Right...
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rich Williamson" <rwill1@adelphia.net>
>
> Yeah...soon to be my girlfriend (-:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kitfoxjunky" <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: If you liked the video footage from One Six
> Right...
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
>> <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>>
>> Anyone know who the female pilot is?
>>
>> Gary Walsh
>> KF IV Anphib 912S
>> C-GOOT
>> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
>> <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>>
>> That's a great video. Both the planes and pilots are amazing. And that
>> lady
>> pilot is one cool dude. She's upside down and pulling 8 g's and looks
>> like
>> she is just driving her SUV to the grocery store.
>>
>> Don Pearsall
>>
>>
>> Subject: Kitfox-List: If you liked the video footage from One Six
>> Right...
>>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
>> <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>>
>> .... then check this out. High Voltage 2002 Aerobatic footage from Japan.
>> Wow!! Makes you wonder where the camera person is.
>>
>>
>> http://guyrevel.free.fr/WGP/Haute-Voltige_au_Japon.wmv
>>
>>
>> Gary Walsh
>> KF IV Anphib 912S
>> C-GOOT
>> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Firewall Edge Seal |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
Here's what I did on my 2: Home Depot Aviation Dept. has what is called
caulk saver. Basically it's a round grey foam extrusion that's about 3/4"
diameter. Costs about $6.00USD for 20' or so. Take this, and using a razor
blade, run a slit to the center of the tube the length of your run. Now fill
this slit with a bead of the adhesive of your choice (I used clear RTV
(Really Tough Vaseline)), and slip it over the edge. Apply cowling and let
sit until RTV cures. Now remove said cowling, and apply 3" Aluminum tape
(speed tape) over the edge seal, and voila! Cowling sealed and custom fit.
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Norm Beauchamp
Subject: Kitfox-List: Firewall Edge Seal
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Norm Beauchamp <nebchmp@wcc.net>
I need to replace the seal that goes around the edge of the firewall.
The one that seales the gap between the firewall edge and the cowl.
There is nothing in the parts list or manuel to give an idea where it
was purchased. I've looked in the ACS cataloge, and don't see it
there. It may be one used on a GA aircraft, and ordered that way. A
suitable replacement number is OK also. T I A. Norm
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: DPREMGOOD@aol.com
Hi all,
I just uploaded a picture of my J3 Kitten on skis.
They're constructed of aluminum for the foot, ply wood for the wheel saddle
and teflon for the base.
Very simple to install.
Look at http://www.sportflight.com add ons/modifications, j3 kitten on skis.
Regards,
Doug Remoundos
Montreal, Canada
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| Subject: | If you liked the video footage from One Six Right... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
That is Kapanina's SUV... She is one awesome pilot...
Fly Safe !!
John McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Pearsall
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: If you liked the video footage from One Six
Right...
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
That's a great video. Both the planes and pilots are amazing. And that lady
pilot is one cool dude. She's upside down and pulling 8 g's and looks like
she is just driving her SUV to the grocery store.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxjunky
Subject: Kitfox-List: If you liked the video footage from One Six Right...
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
<kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
.... then check this out. High Voltage 2002 Aerobatic footage from Japan.
Wow!! Makes you wonder where the camera person is.
http://guyrevel.free.fr/WGP/Haute-Voltige_au_Japon.wmv
Gary Walsh
KF IV Anphib 912S
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Edge Seal |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Norm Beauchamp <nebchmp@wcc.net>
With no one responding with any part number from ACS or other supplier.
I went to JCWhitney just for grins. Under weatherstripping, trunk and
tailgate, 74-87 GM cars. Looks as if it might work. I don't see any
numbers as to size though. It says they will send a sample. I'll be
gone for a week, I'll try to get more information later. Norm
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Edge Seal |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Norm Beauchamp <nebchmp@wcc.net>
Great idea ! Bradley. If all else fails, I'll try it. Thanks. Norm
Bradley M Webb wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
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>Here's what I did on my 2: Home Depot Aviation Dept. has what is called
>caulk saver. Basically it's a round grey foam extrusion that's about 3/4"
>diameter. Costs about $6.00USD for 20' or so. Take this, and using a razor
>blade, run a slit to the center of the tube the length of your run. Now fill
>this slit with a bead of the adhesive of your choice (I used clear RTV
>(Really Tough Vaseline)), and slip it over the edge. Apply cowling and let
>sit until RTV cures. Now remove said cowling, and apply 3" Aluminum tape
>(speed tape) over the edge seal, and voila! Cowling sealed and custom fit.
>
>Bradley
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Edge Seal |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
PLEASE keep in mind that this is a FIRE WALL. You do not want hot gases flowing
across a seal that can burn. This will bring in Very toxic gasses as products
of combustion.
Jim Shumaker
Norm Beauchamp <nebchmp@wcc.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Norm Beauchamp
Great idea ! Bradley. If all else fails, I'll try it. Thanks. Norm
Bradley M Webb wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb"
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>Here's what I did on my 2: Home Depot Aviation Dept. has what is called
>caulk saver. Basically it's a round grey foam extrusion that's about 3/4"
>diameter. Costs about $6.00USD for 20' or so. Take this, and using a razor
>blade, run a slit to the center of the tube the length of your run. Now fill
>this slit with a bead of the adhesive of your choice (I used clear RTV
>(Really Tough Vaseline)), and slip it over the edge. Apply cowling and let
>sit until RTV cures. Now remove said cowling, and apply 3" Aluminum tape
>(speed tape) over the edge seal, and voila! Cowling sealed and custom fit.
>
>Bradley
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Edge Seal |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
I have been using this type seal on my Vixen since 97 with good results.
Cheep, easy, and makes a very good seal, but not totally fireproof. But
neither is the fiberglass cowl.
Norm Beauchamp wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Norm Beauchamp <nebchmp@wcc.net>
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>Great idea ! Bradley. If all else fails, I'll try it. Thanks. Norm
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>Bradley M Webb wrote:
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>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
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>>Here's what I did on my 2: Home Depot Aviation Dept. has what is called
>>caulk saver. Basically it's a round grey foam extrusion that's about 3/4"
>>diameter. Costs about $6.00USD for 20' or so. Take this, and using a razor
>>blade, run a slit to the center of the tube the length of your run. Now fill
>>this slit with a bead of the adhesive of your choice (I used clear RTV
>>(Really Tough Vaseline)), and slip it over the edge. Apply cowling and let
>>sit until RTV cures. Now remove said cowling, and apply 3" Aluminum tape
>>(speed tape) over the edge seal, and voila! Cowling sealed and custom fit.
>>
>>Bradley
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