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1. 04:35 AM - Re: Firewall Edge Seal (Donald STEVENSON)
2. 05:31 AM - Speaking of One Six Right... (Lynn Matteson)
3. 05:44 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Springs (W Duke)
4. 05:51 AM - Re: Speaking of One Six Right... (Dan Billingsley)
5. 06:37 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Springs (Fox5flyer)
6. 06:41 AM - Re: Speaking of One Six Right... (Len Shorethose)
7. 07:53 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Springs (Lowell Fitt)
8. 08:05 AM - Re: Speaking of One Six Right... (Lowell Fitt)
9. 01:37 PM - Re: Skis J3 Kitten on Sportflight (kitfoxjunky)
10. 03:00 PM - Re: Skis J3 Kitten on Sportflight (David Dawe)
11. 03:08 PM - Re: Skis J3 Kitten on Sportflight (Barbara Jones)
12. 07:08 PM - Re: Skis J3 Kitten on Sportflight (DPREMGOOD@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Edge Seal |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
That is why I thought gas fireplace gasket might be
just the thing! Don Stevenson
--- James Shumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker
> <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
>
> PLEASE keep in mind that this is a FIRE WALL. You
> do not want hot gases flowing across a seal that can
> burn. This will bring in Very toxic gasses as
> products of combustion.
>
> Jim Shumaker
>
> Norm Beauchamp <nebchmp@wcc.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Norm Beauchamp
>
> Great idea ! Bradley. If all else fails, I'll try
> it. Thanks. Norm
>
> Bradley M Webb wrote:
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb"
>
> >
> >Here's what I did on my 2: Home Depot Aviation
> Dept. has what is called
> >caulk saver. Basically it's a round grey foam
> extrusion that's about 3/4"
> >diameter. Costs about $6.00USD for 20' or so. Take
> this, and using a razor
> >blade, run a slit to the center of the tube the
> length of your run. Now fill
> >this slit with a bead of the adhesive of your
> choice (I used clear RTV
> >(Really Tough Vaseline)), and slip it over the
> edge. Apply cowling and let
> >sit until RTV cures. Now remove said cowling, and
> apply 3" Aluminum tape
> >(speed tape) over the edge seal, and voila! Cowling
> sealed and custom fit.
> >
> >Bradley
> >
> >
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Speaking of One Six Right... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
I was rather disappointed when I got the DVD, in that the music that I
had come to love while watching the clip, wasn't used. I'll get over it
I'm sure, but watching those aerials and listening to that music really
hooked me. What was the name of that group again? I just checked the
archives and it was suggested that it was Enya, but what song?
Lynn
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Springs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
I had the same question. I could not get the slack completely out without putting
under tension. A well respected RV6 guy at our airport had his loose so I
asked him. He said it was personal preference. Looking around I saw them both
ways and so left mine with a little slack. Others will say they have to be
tight or you will not have the control you need. I disagree and here are my
thoughts.
1. Mine have had slack in them for 430 hours. I was a 30 hour TW pilot before
the Fox.
2. My wife made her first solo in this Fox.
3. The concern of a TW is the unflattering and potentially dangerous ground
loop. It will not occur at a "proper" taxi speed. (not enough energy.) It will
not occur once the vertical stabilizer becomes effective. Therefore it seems
to me there is a small window of speed/energy where the ground loop can occur.
Transition through this window is fast with a Fox on take off, slower on
landing. It also seems that the ground loop is most likely with over controlling
the rudder/TW. I think slack in the chains buffers this a little. Also,
if there is enough energy for a ground loop there seems to me to be enough speed
for an effective rudder regardless of the TW (in our Kitfox anyway).
I plan to try mine without the slack some time but I do not think either way
is right, wrong, or dangerous for an S6.
FWIW
Maxwell
S6/TD/IO240/hobbs 430
Rex & Jan Shaw <rexjan@bigpond.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw"
I have mine just at the point of no slack but not actually stretched. This
does not place a load on the bearings and seems to work OK. A point here
though is if control is a worry and you have the solid Maule SFSA tailwheel
then changing to the Aircraft Spruce 6" homebuilders special soft rubber
taiwheel will work wonders. The the wheel is under $30. Also it runs much
quieter.
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
Maxwell Duke
S6/IO240/Phase II Flight Testing
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of One Six Right... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dan Billingsley <dan@azshowersolutions.com>
Lynn,
That sounds like a little false advertising to me...My wife and I were planning
to purchase the DVD as well after I showed her that clip on the web. Enya is
one of her favorite singers and the song that was attached to the "dancing planes"
is called In Time. If you are interested, the song is on a CD entitled
A Day Without Rain.
Happy Holidays,
Dan & Wendy
Mesa
Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
I was rather disappointed when I got the DVD, in that the music that I
had come to love while watching the clip, wasn't used. I'll get over it
I'm sure, but watching those aerials and listening to that music really
hooked me. What was the name of that group again? I just checked the
archives and it was suggested that it was Enya, but what song?
Lynn
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Springs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
I agree with your RV friend that it's a personal preference. Some people
are comfortable with some slop because they don't want the tailwheel to
react too quickly. I prefer it just barely snug, not tight, just no slack.
IMO the biggest difference between tight and loose is the breakout force of
the tailwheel. Loose chains will allow it to break out with much less force
than tight chains. It's due to the geometry of the breakout cam. Try it
and you'll see what I mean.
Deke
S5
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
> I had the same question. I could not get the slack completely out without
putting under tension. A well respected RV6 guy at our airport had his
loose so I asked him. He said it was personal preference. Looking around I
saw them both ways and so left mine with a little slack. Others will say
they have to be tight or you will not have the control you need. I disagree
and here are my thoughts.
>
> 1. Mine have had slack in them for 430 hours. I was a 30 hour TW pilot
before the Fox.
> 2. My wife made her first solo in this Fox.
> 3. The concern of a TW is the unflattering and potentially dangerous
ground loop. It will not occur at a "proper" taxi speed. (not enough
energy.) It will not occur once the vertical stabilizer becomes effective.
Therefore it seems to me there is a small window of speed/energy where the
ground loop can occur. Transition through this window is fast with a Fox on
take off, slower on landing. It also seems that the ground loop is most
likely with over controlling the rudder/TW. I think slack in the chains
buffers this a little. Also, if there is enough energy for a ground loop
there seems to me to be enough speed for an effective rudder regardless of
the TW (in our Kitfox anyway).
>
> I plan to try mine without the slack some time but I do not think either
way is right, wrong, or dangerous for an S6.
>
> FWIW
>
> Maxwell
> S6/TD/IO240/hobbs 430
>
> Rex & Jan Shaw <rexjan@bigpond.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw"
>
> I have mine just at the point of no slack but not actually stretched. This
> does not place a load on the bearings and seems to work OK. A point here
> though is if control is a worry and you have the solid Maule SFSA
tailwheel
> then changing to the Aircraft Spruce 6" homebuilders special soft rubber
> taiwheel will work wonders. The the wheel is under $30. Also it runs much
> quieter.
> Rex.
> rexjan@bigpond.com
>
>
> Maxwell Duke
> S6/IO240/Phase II Flight Testing
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of One Six Right... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Len Shorethose" <toolowterrain@gmail.com>
Lynn,
The song is called "Only time"
Len
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Speaking of One Six Right...
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> I was rather disappointed when I got the DVD, in that the music that I
> had come to love while watching the clip, wasn't used. I'll get over it
> I'm sure, but watching those aerials and listening to that music really
> hooked me. What was the name of that group again? I just checked the
> archives and it was suggested that it was Enya, but what song?
>
> Lynn
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Springs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Maxwell, My thoughts exactly. I have 750 hours with real loose and a
little loose. I have found that unlike the very sensitive finger pressure
aileron and elevator control, it is more difficult to get that sensitive a
rudder control with my feet being all the way at the end of my legs. and the
"dance" comes in and a little slack will buffer the input.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "W Duke" <n981ms@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tail Wheel Springs
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
>
> I had the same question. I could not get the slack completely out without
> putting under tension. A well respected RV6 guy at our airport had his
> loose so I asked him. He said it was personal preference. Looking around
> I saw them both ways and so left mine with a little slack. Others will
> say they have to be tight or you will not have the control you need. I
> disagree and here are my thoughts.
>
> 1. Mine have had slack in them for 430 hours. I was a 30 hour TW pilot
> before the Fox.
> 2. My wife made her first solo in this Fox.
> 3. The concern of a TW is the unflattering and potentially dangerous
> ground loop. It will not occur at a "proper" taxi speed. (not enough
> energy.) It will not occur once the vertical stabilizer becomes
> effective. Therefore it seems to me there is a small window of
> speed/energy where the ground loop can occur. Transition through this
> window is fast with a Fox on take off, slower on landing. It also seems
> that the ground loop is most likely with over controlling the rudder/TW.
> I think slack in the chains buffers this a little. Also, if there is
> enough energy for a ground loop there seems to me to be enough speed for
> an effective rudder regardless of the TW (in our Kitfox anyway).
>
> I plan to try mine without the slack some time but I do not think either
> way is right, wrong, or dangerous for an S6.
>
> FWIW
>
> Maxwell
> S6/TD/IO240/hobbs 430
>
> Rex & Jan Shaw <rexjan@bigpond.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw"
>
> I have mine just at the point of no slack but not actually stretched. This
> does not place a load on the bearings and seems to work OK. A point here
> though is if control is a worry and you have the solid Maule SFSA
> tailwheel
> then changing to the Aircraft Spruce 6" homebuilders special soft rubber
> taiwheel will work wonders. The the wheel is under $30. Also it runs much
> quieter.
> Rex.
> rexjan@bigpond.com
>
>
> Maxwell Duke
> S6/IO240/Phase II Flight Testing
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of One Six Right... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
My guess on this is that selling the song along without the license is
illegal, but putting it on the free preview is more in the gray area. I do
agree that it is milseading to the eventual buyer.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Billingsley" <dan@azshowersolutions.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speaking of One Six Right...
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dan Billingsley
> <dan@azshowersolutions.com>
>
> Lynn,
> That sounds like a little false advertising to me...My wife and I were
> planning to purchase the DVD as well after I showed her that clip on the
> web. Enya is one of her favorite singers and the song that was attached to
> the "dancing planes" is called In Time. If you are interested, the song
> is on a CD entitled A Day Without Rain.
>
> Happy Holidays,
> Dan & Wendy
> Mesa
>
>
> Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
>
> I was rather disappointed when I got the DVD, in that the music that I
> had come to love while watching the clip, wasn't used. I'll get over it
> I'm sure, but watching those aerials and listening to that music really
> hooked me. What was the name of that group again? I just checked the
> archives and it was suggested that it was Enya, but what song?
>
> Lynn
> do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Skis J3 Kitten on Sportflight |
Serialize complete at 12/21/2005 04:37:33 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
I could not view the image. Just a box with a red x in it. Is it just me?
Gary Walsh
KF IV Anphib 912S
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Skis J3 Kitten on Sportflight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Dawe" <davedawe@msn.com>
Same problem
>From: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Skis J3 Kitten on Sportflight
>Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:37:27 -0500 Serialize complete at
>12/21/2005 04:37:33 PM
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
><kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>
>I could not view the image. Just a box with a red x in it. Is it just me?
>
>Gary Walsh
>KF IV Anphib 912S
>C-GOOT
>www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Skis J3 Kitten on Sportflight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Barbara Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
All I see is the red x too.
Tom Jones
kitfoxjunky wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>
>I could not view the image. Just a box with a red x in it. Is it just me?
>
>Gary Walsh
>KF IV Anphib 912S
>C-GOOT
>www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
>do not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Skis J3 Kitten on Sportflight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: DPREMGOOD@aol.com
Hi all,
I tried to upload the j3 kitten picture a second time without success. I
don't know why...
If anyone's interested, I can E-mail directly.
Doug Remoundos
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