Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Sat 12/31/05


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:35 AM - Re: Damage to 4473 (Graeme Toft)
     2. 05:39 AM - Re: NEW BERN N.C. NEW KITFOX IV PLAY SPEEDSTER (W Duke)
     3. 10:16 AM - Mk7 Flaperon Horn Position (David Steade)
     4. 10:24 AM - Re: Float installation (Paul)
     5. 10:39 AM - Re: Mk7 Flaperon Horn Position (D& D Syverson)
     6. 12:10 PM - Re: Damage to 4473 (Jeffrey Puls)
     7. 12:53 PM - Re: Damage to 4473 (Graeme Toft)
     8. 02:40 PM - Re: Float installation (Herbert R Gottelt)
     9. 02:56 PM - Re: NEW BERN N.C. NEW KITFOX IV PLAY SPEEDSTER (Ben Baltrusaitis)
    10. 03:00 PM - Re: Float installation (Herbert R Gottelt)
    11. 04:06 PM - Re: Mk7 Flaperon Horn Position (Gary Olson)
    12. 06:10 PM - Fuel tanks (Graeme Toft)
    13. 08:01 PM - Happy New Year to the Kitfox List (Don Pearsall)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:35:23 AM PST US
    From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
    Subject: Re: Damage to 4473
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> Just printed it off John. Great info. Now I can make an informed decision about what will be discarded and what will be repaired. Regards Graeme Toft ----- Original Message ----- From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Damage to 4473 > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net> > > That is a correct assumption.. BUT.. AC 43.13 will show how the splice is > to > be done to be "In Accordance With" (IAC) or "as Acceptable by the > Administrator" to be approved for airworthiness.. I realize that you fall > under another set of rules but the guidelines in AC 43.13 will show an > "Approved" method for the repair. Which is another way of saying.. It's a > good guideline to start with.... > > Have a Safe New Year !! > John & Debra McBean > www.sportplanellc.com > "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Graeme Toft > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Damage to 4473 > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> > > Thanks John but in Oz we are governed by a different set of rules to > yourselves. Recreational Aviation Australia provides blanket regulations > for > both ultralight and the light sports category. My aircraft was registered > in > the 19 cat which means it is experimental and can be worked on by the > owner > and to a non specific set of standards. The only condition is that as the > build or in this case repair is being undertaken, a licensed aircraft > maintenance engineer (LAME) provides guidance and approves the method of > work on a periodic basis. It really is at the end of the day at the > discretion of the owner as to how the work is undertaken. Its a blessing > in > disguise and provides an enormous amount of flexibility. Im not sure about > the sections of your regulation that you refer to but it appears by your > email that splicing is acceptable in certain cases. Is that a correct > assumption? Thanks John. > > regards > > Graeme Toft > Queensland Safety Solutions > Ph: 07 49397011 > Mob: 0411476527 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Damage to 4473 > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net> >> >> Graeme, >> Review AC 43.13-1b and 43.13-2a.. Covers a lot of things.... >> Specifically has a section on splicing... >> >> Have a Safe New Year !! >> John McBean >> www.sportplanellc.com >> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Graeme Toft >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Damage to 4473 >> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> >> >> Hi Guys, now that Ive licked my wounds for a few days its time to face >> reality and look at the damage objectively. Considering she was rolling >> around in the surf for around an hour, 4473 in largely in tact with >> damage >> primarily sustained by the wings. Surprisingly the spares are fine. >> Certainly a testament to the strength of these wonderful aircraft. The >> airframe is straight and nothing popped. All welds appear to be intact >> but >> without stripping off the cloth and carrying out and NDT its hard to know >> exactly. I have had many offers of help with parts and I believe I will >> be >> knocking on Johns door for those hard to get items. Obviously without any >> support services here in Oz much will have to be manufactured or >> purchased >> from the USA. I am happy to pay for any parts that may be available and >> would appreciate an email from those of you that have spare instruments, >> wing ribs or any item that will assist in the rebuild. Both bump cowls >> have >> also been destroyed. One question I do! >> have is, is it OK to splice broken ribs? Its just a thought but looking >> at >> them I feel that the breaks are so clean that a splice plate on each side >> might be OK. >> >> Cheers and thanks >> Graeme >> Kitfox 1V 1200 (temporarily suspended from flight). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> > > > -- > >


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    Time: 05:39:02 AM PST US
    From: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: NEW BERN N.C. NEW KITFOX IV PLAY SPEEDSTER
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com> I may live under a rock but I am not aware of the Georgia Sport Flyers. Where are they located? I am about half way between Macon and Savannah on I-16. Maxwell jboatm16 <jboatm16@netzero.net> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jboatm16" heyt thanks i lived in ga a couple of yrs ago and was part of ga sport flyers you? ----- Original Message ----- From: "W Duke" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NEW BERN N.C. NEW KITFOX IV PLAY SPEEDSTER > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke > > I am in Dublin, GA if that is close enough for you. > > Maxwell Duke S6/TD/IO240 > > jboatm16 wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jboatm16" > > Hello my name is Kem Dunnebacke iam living in new bern nc looking to get a > little air time as iam getting ready to test fly my new kitfox.I would be > glad to drive,pay fuel ,work, to get a little air time in the same type > plane befor test flights.i should be ready no later then early spring > perhaps befor if weather and all permits.my last build was a rv4 needed to > get married, a home all the life stuff,but now i live .2mls from EWN so > the > folding wing beats the rent!thanks have a good new yr. 252-638-5828 > c252-229-8200 > > > --------------------------------- > > > ---------------------------------


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    Time: 10:16:38 AM PST US
    From: "David Steade" <steade@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Mk7 Flaperon Horn Position
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Steade" <steade@btinternet.com> Hi All Thanks for the recent advice regarding a spinner . Now I wonder is there anyone who can give me come guidance regarding the flaperon setup. I am building a Mk7 with a manual dating from July 03. Page 69 shows diagram P-1 the "Flaperon Clamping Fixture". This fixture shows the cord line of the airfoil on the split line of the wood blocks and importantly with the semi-symmetrical airfoil places the centre of the aluminium tubular spar above the split line. Now when looking at page 73 figure P-3 I am confused as the airfoil is shown with the cord line placed below the split line and the centre of the aluminium tube now appears to be positioned on the split line. From my knowledge I believe that the dimensions for the position of the horn on the symmetrical section flaperon where the cord line is the same position as the centre line of the aluminium tube is also 5/32" and 1-3/32 " as shown in my manual. From my reasoning figure P-3 must be wrong as the blocks made to figure P-1 must place the cord line on the split line and therefore the centre of the aluminium spar tube must be above the split line ( by about 3/16" as far as I can see ). If this is so then to obtain the same angle between the cord line and the horn for both the symmetrical and the semi-symmetrical flaperons if would appear that the setting heights for the symmetrical and semi-symmetrical flaperons must be different. Any advice would be very welcome. Regards David Steade


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    Time: 10:24:57 AM PST US
    From: "Paul" <pliedl@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Float installation
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul" <pliedl@earthlink.net> Hi Kevin: As Paul Seehafer has already mentioned, I have a Kitfox V on Murphy 1800 Amphibs. I basically had to figure out the mounting on my own and would be glad to answer any specific questions you have. My email address has changed. It is now pliedl@earthlink.net. (Paul has an old address). Paul Liedl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cozik" <Kcozik@cablespeed.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Float installation > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kevin Cozik" <Kcozik@cablespeed.com> > > Hello everyone > I'm just getting ready to start my float installation on a series 6. John > Mcbean has been very helpful with misc. drawings and such for general > float installation but I have nothing specific for czech amphibs on a 5, > 6,7 kitfox. What I'm looking for is the rules of thumb concerning step > location relative to the center of gravity, float angle relative to the > wing and so on. I'm also looing for other sources of float strut > material. > This list has had answers for everything else over the past couple > years, I hope you can help solve this one too. (and maybe someday I'll be > a helper too!) > > Happy New Year > Kevin Cozik (Michigan) > Series 6-7 914 turbo czech amphibs > > >


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    Time: 10:39:53 AM PST US
    From: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Mk7 Flaperon Horn Position
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net> Good Afternoon, I had an identical reaction to the two drawings in the '03 manual (same manual revision I have for the Model 7) .....they both can't be right. I was going to spend some more time with my manual and some thoughts about this before I fired up the bandsaw; but, since the topic is on the board right now I'd also like to defer to anyone on the list who has knowledge and experience on this issue. I'd second David Steads comments for any good ideas on this. Thanks, Dave Syverson St Paul, MN On Saturday 31 December 2005 12:15 pm, David Steade wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Steade" <steade@btinternet.com> > > Hi All > > Thanks for the recent advice regarding a spinner . Now I wonder is there > anyone who can give me come guidance regarding the flaperon setup. > > I am building a Mk7 with a manual dating from July 03. Page 69 shows > diagram P-1 the "Flaperon Clamping Fixture". This fixture shows the cord > line of the airfoil on the split line of the wood blocks and importantly > with the semi-symmetrical airfoil places the centre of the aluminium > tubular spar above the split line. .....


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    Time: 12:10:20 PM PST US
    From: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Damage to 4473
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com> Graeme, Have you had a chance to check your wing attach fittings for deformation of the pin hole? If the pin holes are elongated or sloopy there is a sleeve that fits in the spar. When I was visiting Murle out in Phoenix he had them in his workshop. Jeff Columbus Ohio Classic IV. > [Original Message] > From: Graeme Toft <msm@byterocky.net> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Date: 12/30/2005 1:07:03 AM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Damage to 4473 > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> > > Hi Guys, now that Ive licked my wounds for a few days its time to face reality and look at the damage objectively. Considering she was rolling around in the surf for around an hour, 4473 in largely in tact with damage primarily sustained by the wings. Surprisingly the spares are fine. Certainly a testament to the strength of these wonderful aircraft. The airframe is straight and nothing popped. All welds appear to be intact but without stripping off the cloth and carrying out and NDT its hard to know exactly. I have had many offers of help with parts and I believe I will be knocking on Johns door for those hard to get items. Obviously without any support services here in Oz much will have to be manufactured or purchased from the USA. I am happy to pay for any parts that may be available and would appreciate an email from those of you that have spare instruments, wing ribs or any item that will assist in the rebuild. Both bump cowls have also been destroyed. One question I do! > have is, is it OK to splice broken ribs? Its just a thought but looking at them I feel that the breaks are so clean that a splice plate on each side might be OK. > > Cheers and thanks > Graeme > Kitfox 1V 1200 (temporarily suspended from flight). > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:53:16 PM PST US
    From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
    Subject: Re: Damage to 4473
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> Thanks Jeffrey, I'll check today. Its an issue I hadnt considered so thanks for bring it to my attention. I did notice one pin was very hard to remove so there may be some distortion there. Regards Graeme Toft ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Damage to 4473 > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com> > > Graeme, > Have you had a chance to check your wing attach fittings for deformation > of > the pin hole? If the pin holes are elongated or sloopy there is a sleeve > that fits in the spar. When I was visiting Murle out in Phoenix he had > them > in his workshop. Jeff Columbus Ohio Classic IV. > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Graeme Toft <msm@byterocky.net> >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >> Date: 12/30/2005 1:07:03 AM >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Damage to 4473 >> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> >> >> Hi Guys, now that Ive licked my wounds for a few days its time to face > reality and look at the damage objectively. Considering she was rolling > around in the surf for around an hour, 4473 in largely in tact with damage > primarily sustained by the wings. Surprisingly the spares are fine. > Certainly a testament to the strength of these wonderful aircraft. The > airframe is straight and nothing popped. All welds appear to be intact but > without stripping off the cloth and carrying out and NDT its hard to know > exactly. I have had many offers of help with parts and I believe I will be > knocking on Johns door for those hard to get items. Obviously without any > support services here in Oz much will have to be manufactured or purchased > from the USA. I am happy to pay for any parts that may be available and > would appreciate an email from those of you that have spare instruments, > wing ribs or any item that will assist in the rebuild. Both bump cowls > have > also been destroyed. One question I do! >> have is, is it OK to splice broken ribs? Its just a thought but looking > at them I feel that the breaks are so clean that a splice plate on each > side might be OK. >> >> Cheers and thanks >> Graeme >> Kitfox 1V 1200 (temporarily suspended from flight). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > >


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    Time: 02:40:03 PM PST US
    From: Herbert R Gottelt <gofalke@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Float installation
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Herbert R Gottelt <gofalke@sbcglobal.net> Attention: Water flyers, get some dual first! Paul Seehafer <av8rps@tznet.com> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" Hey Kevin, looks like the new fox is moving right along. Should be a screamer for an amphib! Maybe we will see it at the seaplane base at oshkosh this year? (hint hint...) Here's something out of my files that might help you. I have some more info I will forward separately once I lay my hands on it that I received from Jay Frey (EDO) and Matt Sigfried (Aerocet). But essentially the setup should be similar to your old model IV with the Aerocets. You might also want to talk to Paul Liedl over in Minnesota as he set up a Model 5 on Murphy amphibs a few years ago and had to figure it all out on his own. But I think he had it done right now. His e-mail is liedlp@infi.net Paul Seehafer Central Wisconsin Installation Two critical factors determine float installation: 1) step location in relation to center of gravity and 2) angle of incidence of float to wing chord. The builder should consult with the aircraft manufacturer or designer in this regard. In the limited experience of the author, the following information is offered. Step Location Direction on float step location in relation to c of g varies in the reference literature. Some sources indicate the float step should be located directly under the c of g, others suggest the float step should be some moderate distance behind the c of g. Two methods for locating the step in relation to the c of g have been found. One is to locate the step behind the aircraft c of g a distance equal to 1/3 times the width of the float at the step (e.g. With an 18" wide float, the step would be located 6" behind the c of g). The second is locate the step 5 degrees behind the c of g (e.g. The step should be located on a line 5 degrees aft of a vertical line extending down from the c of g point on the wing). The closer the step to the c of g the less stable the float/aircraft, though the nose of the aircraft can be drawn higher giving better prop clearance on tractor aircraft. If the c of g is too far forward, the aircraft tends to plow nose down when power is initially applied and resist planing. Angle of incidence and stance The angle of incidence is the angle of attack of the wing in relation to the float's longitudinal axis. In the authors limited reading on the subject, this varies from 3 degrees to approximately 12 degrees. The greater angle of incidence results in greater parasitic drag from the floats but faster takeoffs. The aircraft manufacturer may be able to provide some direction on this subject as well. Floats should be 4 ? to 6 feet apart depending on wing span. General Other elements of float attachment such as determining attachment points on your aircraft need to be determined by the builder as dictated by the requirements of the aircraft. Again, consult your aircraft manufacturer in this regard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cozik" Subject: Kitfox-List: Float installation > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kevin Cozik" > > Hello everyone > I'm just getting ready to start my float installation on a series 6. John > Mcbean has been very helpful with misc. drawings and such for general > float installation but I have nothing specific for czech amphibs on a 5, > 6,7 kitfox. What I'm looking for is the rules of thumb concerning step > location relative to the center of gravity, float angle relative to the > wing and so on. I'm also looing for other sources of float strut > material. > This list has had answers for everything else over the past couple > years, I hope you can help solve this one too. (and maybe someday I'll be > a helper too!) > > Happy New Year > Kevin Cozik (Michigan) > Series 6-7 914 turbo czech amphibs > > >


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    Time: 02:56:46 PM PST US
    From: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net>
    Subject: Re: NEW BERN N.C. NEW KITFOX IV PLAY SPEEDSTER
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net> Hi Kem, Welcome to the Kitfox world! Please add your name and information to the Frappr Pin Map: http://www.frappr.com/kitfox Happy New Year everyone! Ben DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: jboatm16 To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 5:45 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: NEW BERN N.C. NEW KITFOX IV PLAY SPEEDSTER --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jboatm16" <jboatm16@netzero.net> Hello my name is Kem Dunnebacke iam living in new bern nc looking to get a little air time as iam getting ready to test fly my new kitfox.I would be glad to drive,pay fuel ,work, to get a little air time in the same type plane befor test flights.i should be ready no later then early spring perhaps befor if weather and all permits.


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    Time: 03:00:55 PM PST US
    From: Herbert R Gottelt <gofalke@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Float installation
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Herbert R Gottelt <gofalke@sbcglobal.net> Sorry guys, I guess the attachment did not make it. Herb Gottelt Herbert R Gottelt <gofalke@sbcglobal.net> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Herbert R Gottelt Attention: Water flyers, get some dual first! Paul Seehafer wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" Hey Kevin, looks like the new fox is moving right along. Should be a screamer for an amphib! Maybe we will see it at the seaplane base at oshkosh this year? (hint hint...) Here's something out of my files that might help you. I have some more info I will forward separately once I lay my hands on it that I received from Jay Frey (EDO) and Matt Sigfried (Aerocet). But essentially the setup should be similar to your old model IV with the Aerocets. You might also want to talk to Paul Liedl over in Minnesota as he set up a Model 5 on Murphy amphibs a few years ago and had to figure it all out on his own. But I think he had it done right now. His e-mail is liedlp@infi.net Paul Seehafer Central Wisconsin Installation Two critical factors determine float installation: 1) step location in relation to center of gravity and 2) angle of incidence of float to wing chord. The builder should consult with the aircraft manufacturer or designer in this regard. In the limited experience of the author, the following information is offered. Step Location Direction on float step location in relation to c of g varies in the reference literature. Some sources indicate the float step should be located directly under the c of g, others suggest the float step should be some moderate distance behind the c of g. Two methods for locating the step in relation to the c of g have been found. One is to locate the step behind the aircraft c of g a distance equal to 1/3 times the width of the float at the step (e.g. With an 18" wide float, the step would be located 6" behind the c of g). The second is locate the step 5 degrees behind the c of g (e.g. The step should be located on a line 5 degrees aft of a vertical line extending down from the c of g point on the wing). The closer the step to the c of g the less stable the float/aircraft, though the nose of the aircraft can be drawn higher giving better prop clearance on tractor aircraft. If the c of g is too far forward, the aircraft tends to plow nose down when power is initially applied and resist planing. Angle of incidence and stance The angle of incidence is the angle of attack of the wing in relation to the float's longitudinal axis. In the authors limited reading on the subject, this varies from 3 degrees to approximately 12 degrees. The greater angle of incidence results in greater parasitic drag from the floats but faster takeoffs. The aircraft manufacturer may be able to provide some direction on this subject as well. Floats should be 4 ? to 6 feet apart depending on wing span. General Other elements of float attachment such as determining attachment points on your aircraft need to be determined by the builder as dictated by the requirements of the aircraft. Again, consult your aircraft manufacturer in this regard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cozik" Subject: Kitfox-List: Float installation > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kevin Cozik" > > Hello everyone > I'm just getting ready to start my float installation on a series 6. John > Mcbean has been very helpful with misc. drawings and such for general > float installation but I have nothing specific for czech amphibs on a 5, > 6,7 kitfox. What I'm looking for is the rules of thumb concerning step > location relative to the center of gravity, float angle relative to the > wing and so on. I'm also looing for other sources of float strut > material. > This list has had answers for everything else over the past couple > years, I hope you can help solve this one too. (and maybe someday I'll be > a helper too!) > > Happy New Year > Kevin Cozik (Michigan) > Series 6-7 914 turbo czech amphibs > > >


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    Time: 04:06:01 PM PST US
    From: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Mk7 Flaperon Horn Position
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com> Fellows, I have completed this step and I followed the diagram that shows the trailing edge of the flaperon in line with the seam. As per the instructions "make sure that the centerline of the flaperon is lined up with the seam line between the fixture halves". There is no way of measuring the depth of the flaperon seam into the fixture blocks on the following pages of the manual. I would guess that it was just a poor job of proof reading on Skystar's part. In the worst case scenario, I feel confident that there should be enough room for adjustment in the final rigging to compensate if I used the wrong diagram. Gary Olson Oshkosh. D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson Good Afternoon, I had an identical reaction to the two drawings in the '03 manual (same manual revision I have for the Model 7) .....they both can't be right. I was going to spend some more time with my manual and some thoughts about this before I fired up the bandsaw; but, since the topic is on the board right now I'd also like to defer to anyone on the list who has knowledge and experience on this issue. I'd second David Steads comments for any good ideas on this. Thanks, Dave Syverson St Paul, MN On Saturday 31 December 2005 12:15 pm, David Steade wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Steade" > > Hi All > > Thanks for the recent advice regarding a spinner . Now I wonder is there > anyone who can give me come guidance regarding the flaperon setup. > > I am building a Mk7 with a manual dating from July 03. Page 69 shows > diagram P-1 the "Flaperon Clamping Fixture". This fixture shows the cord > line of the airfoil on the split line of the wood blocks and importantly > with the semi-symmetrical airfoil places the centre of the aluminium > tubular spar above the split line. ..... --------------------------------- Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.


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    Time: 06:10:58 PM PST US
    From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
    Subject: Fuel tanks
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> Hi Guys, for your interest I have stripped the wings and noticed both fuel tanks have very small crazing in the glass which has been obviously leaking very slowly over the life of the plane. The defects appear to be from the tank mould when the glass was laid up. It is extremely thin in the areas that it has crazed and full depth penetrations appear to have occurred in at least 2 places. Fuel staining around both areas are obviously from long term leaking. The amount lost would appear to be very small and certainly not noticeable externally when undertaking a pre-flight inspection although a faint fuel smell has always been noticeable but down to the breather venting. Just thought I'd bring it to your attention!!. Cheers Graeme Toft


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